everyone supported teams 'pulling out'(quitting) and suddenly winning and dominating was looked down upon

I heard the reason was EoN blue'd with everyone and refuses to break up... thats the problem with Dust and PC.

He has a great point but this is the only game I've ever known that fighting a conflict is too high of a risk. Losing a war is a corp almost certain death. With that kind of gameplay it's understandable why corps refuse to fight competitively. All that effort you put into a corp as a CEO and you watch it all fall apart over a conflict that was supposed to be fun, learning, and a bonding experience. Under those conditions you have to be an idiot or a gambler to fight or stay in PC if the risk is that great. Sver is the only corp that I certainly know that a lost a war including a entire planet and gain almost everything back.

Outer.Heavens almost there, and Hellstorm is doing it best with that blindside that happened. PC war are not cost effective or player worthy by any means. I have stupid for respect EON and for what that Empire has done for PC and the community, but from what I know you guys haven't been severely strained by losing wars in PC. You lost a few but won them too. Every corp believes their bond is unbreakable up until they start losing battles and cannot best the opponent no matter what they do.

Once that pain happens to you then you to me have the right to boast you friendships and corp mates. But at this time you are the king of the hill and I hope you never have to go through what we did. Most respect tho

Don't know why people turn on each other when they start losing in a game. I'll put my newest players against one of the best corps in the game and not care about the outcome. We don't really care about winning as long as we have fun.

He has a great point but this is the only game I've ever known that fighting a conflict is too high of a risk. Losing a war is a corp almost certain death. With that kind of gameplay it's understandable why corps refuse to fight competitively. All that effort you put into a corp as a CEO and you watch it all fall apart over a conflict that was supposed to be fun, learning, and a bonding experience. Under those conditions you have to be an idiot or a gambler to fight or stay in PC if the risk is that great. Sver is the only corp that I certainly know that a lost a war including a entire planet and gain almost everything back.

Outer.Heavens almost there, and Hellstorm is doing it best with that blindside that happened. PC war are not cost effective or player worthy by any means. I have stupid for respect EON and for what that Empire has done for PC and the community, but from what I know you guys haven't been severely strained by losing wars in PC. You lost a few but won them too. Every corp believes their bond is unbreakable up until they start losing battles and cannot best the opponent no matter what they do.

Once that pain happens to you then you to me have the right to boast you friendships and corp mates. But at this time you are the king of the hill and I hope you never have to go through what we did. Most respect tho

People need to stop trying to form alliances for DUST and start building communities if they wanna succeed in the long run.

I still don't get why people blame EoN solely for blue'ing up. I mean, it takes two to blue, right?

and tbh we aren't even "Blue" with anyone except those in EoN. You know... the people in the alliance. People be like "Oh they blue'd up with RND and Intrepidus and 0.H before the 6 Day War herp derp". Just in case you guys haven't noticed... those people are still here.

And the corps bitching about us blue'ing up could... idk... attack us? Form an Anti-EoN coalition?

Nope they'd rather just ***** and moan. Not even the sexy kind of moaning. You know that sound a cat makes when it has its leg/tail/head caught in something? That kind of moan.

Btw, Lance, people won't understand any of your post. There is simply too much logic in it.

^this

my 2isk:

I dont get why people qq about EON. I respect what they have archieved in this game. And most of eon guys that I have played with were always polite and fun to play with. Just played few pubs with R*S guy last night and was the most fun that I,ve had in this game for a while. Yes EON has some members that troll on these forums and that is something I personally dont like, but its only few individuals.

Too bad you guys are on wrong tz +ñ

I dont get these whiners, if you lose you have to look why did that happen, fix your **** and next time you will do better. People who are just after easy fights will always complain and cry. Build your corp/alliance on solid base with healthy community and in the long run you will make it.

I have no issues with EoN dominating MH, they earned it through hard work and determination, kudos to them.

What sucks about it is that since EoN became the powerhouse, higher skilled players generally start to gravitate towards EoN corps if they decide to leave their current corps. Not that there is anything wrong with it, but it makes it far more challenging to put up a real effort when you lose your most skilled players, both SP and gun game wise, to the people you would have to fight to get a foothold.

"cuz".

Soon as I saw this slang term I stopped reading. You can't possibly be an adult.

It has nothing to do with sympathy or being nice. These issues have cropped up because dominating forces push others out of the game. And we're trying to keep the game alive long enough for CCP to make it worth playing.

people been leaving long before EoN established itself in MH.

True. But PC gives them a reason to not leave, if they have a chance to play in it.

So... a temporary relief of bad game mechanics can give them the chance to experience what they game will be, and give them more reason to stick it out. Whereas them just staying in pubs won't retain them.

and you think people leaving is EoN's fault? Has EoN been wiping indie corps out of PC?

Funny thing about this. CRONOS attacked and removed Dust Uni from PC first week of PC. LoI wiped ROFL from PC and would have done it to other alliances if they had the chance to.

Yet, EoN is in the spotlight for doing what exactly? Not babysitting people enough? Not giving fulfilling people's self entitled needs?

Please explain to me, how exactly people leaving has anything to do with EoN.

You should put the keyboard down and go outside.

Soon as I saw this slang term I stopped reading. You can't possibly be an adult.

I'm not a news reporter, so i'm free to write and use whatever "slang" i feel to. Thanks for contributing that important bit of info

Ah, trying to be validated by the forum, sad. As I said you are not an adult. ()

validated? why? lol... you're the one saying I'm not an adult, yet gave no reason other than i used "slang"...gg

You think if EoN wasn't here, there won't have been another "super power"? lol... they probably won't have extended the same courtesy EoN has.

Now who is crying?

If you can't deal with the flak that comes from being apart of the top alliance, then maybe you should go indie. There will always be some degree of contempt for the haves from the have-nots. Expecting any different in this situation is foolish of you. It doesn't matter if you are tyrannical or benevolent, there will always be those who will slight every accomplishment.

Asking for sympathy while every member in your alliance is sitting on a fat wallet and a nice daily income is ridiculous, and you should be laughed at for trying it.

If the ever increasing wallet amounts and friendlies all across the map are not enough for you, then you will never be satisfied.

QFT.

"If we didnt do it, someone else would have".. word?

That doesnt make the current blue donut right or wrong but people will have their opinions regardless. I know I have suggested breaking up EoN for the sake of competition that you and many of your EoN bros claim to desire the most... but not only was that idea shot down, forum warriors like yourself came and shat all over the idea and called me names. Made me cry a little, and then I tinkled in my pants.. thanks for that.

But seriously... the corps you guys picked up right before the lolwar, no reason for them to stick around now right? Maybe the slaves can rebel and attack the masters? Oh wait, that would be too hard The terrorist organization known as LoI is all but dismantled PC wise. The rest of the community can do like you all did and try to amass the skill left in a dozen or so corps to field an alliance to take on EoN. WIll that happen, probably not. Will the same results happen that have happened so many times before, probably.

So the options going forward are to keep things the way they are. Or try something different.

Got any suggestions Lance?

We could take all of molden heath and just have a fight club amongst ourselves.

Now who is crying?

If you can't deal with the flak that comes from being apart of the top alliance, then maybe you should go indie. There will always be some degree of contempt for the haves from the have-nots. Expecting any different in this situation is foolish of you. It doesn't matter if you are tyrannical or benevolent, there will always be those who will slight every accomplishment.

Asking for sympathy while every member in your alliance is sitting on a fat wallet and a nice daily income is ridiculous, and you should be laughed at for trying it.

If the ever increasing wallet amounts and friendlies all across the map are not enough for you, then you will never be satisfied.

The problem with attacking EON is once you attack them, all of your districts are locked down with attacks from every Tom, ****, and Harry in the Alliance, keeping all of your clones in there. 100 clone battles aren't fun for anyone,

But seriously... the corps you guys picked up right before the lolwar, no reason for them to stick around now right? Maybe the slaves can rebel and attack the masters? Oh wait, that would be too hard The terrorist organization known as LoI is all but dismantled PC wise. The rest of the community can do like you all did and try to amass the skill left in a dozen or so corps to field an alliance to take on EoN. WIll that happen, probably not. Will the same results happen that have happened so many times before, probably.

So the options going forward are to keep things the way they are. Or try something different.

Got any suggestions Lance?

This. I think a lot of the hate has to do with the trolling. A lot of it also has to do with general frustration over the way this game works. It took Eon a year to become what they are, and people on both sides need to realize that it will take a good while for anyone to challenge them. Because of the limited player pool, players getting fed up with CCP and leaving, and the SP required to compete on equal footing, building a quality PC team takes months. Getting a strong alliance together of quality PC teams takes much longer.

am i the only console kid that actually sat down and planned **** out for years to come?

might be time for people to have a read again

The victory Eon has earned is not in conquest, but in staving off boredom.
Everybody who has been "beaten out" of PC left because fighting every day gets dull real fast.

Then Eon's mouths come here to regale us with tales of their victories vs corps and alliances who were largely playing The Last Of Us or catching up on Game of Thrones instead.

Then why QQ or rage or whatever you call the reaction if you don't want to commit to playing. If anything it's less like it used to be now that you can flip a district either in 2 hours or 2-3 days if ya want to space it out.

The victory Eon has earned is not in conquest, but in staving off boredom.
Everybody who has been "beaten out" of PC left because fighting every day gets dull real fast.

Then Eon's mouths come here to regale us with tales of their victories vs corps and alliances who were largely playing The Last Of Us or catching up on Game of Thrones instead.