I was trying to think of things that could use a nerf or buff.

BUFF:

Shotguns! Shotguns are pretty much useless in this game. Once in a while you'll have an exceptional game, but its just that, EXCEPTIONAL. The strafing hit boxes, there low range and damage output to RoF makes them not worth using if you actually want to succeed on a decent level in this game.

NOOB Lobbies. This game needs to add noob lobbies. Sending lamb into slaughter is not good for the player base. If you don't think that new players should get their own "Training Grounds", then I assume you are one of those pathetic players that kill BPOs and think they are God of New Eden because they went 12-0 for once during a match.

NERF:

Keyboard & Mouse. It needs to be taken out of the game. Its not fair to controller players, and consoles are meant to be played with controllers. Controllers don't belong in PC, and KB&M doesn't belong on a console shooters.

Mass Drivers. I did some thinking about this one. In a game that has Forge Guns, Flaylocks, and gives you 3 grenades to start with. A weapon that spams explosives doesn't have a place in the game. Explosives should always be limited as much as possible because the skill element leaves. All weapons in this game have damage drop off as the range increases (Except Snipers and Forges, but they have their own balancing) that makes up for it) A Mass driver can cause damage or get kills at all ranges, and doesn't require anything but spamming the trigger. You can argue that Mass Drivers take some skill, but it still allows you to just throw skill out the window and spam explosives at someone.

LAVs. Basically the only thing that needs to be nerfed is the Logi LAVs, 5000+ HP for a LAV is ridiculous.

MCC. Do away with it. Having a "Safe Zone" will just enable AFKing. You can't stop someone from trying to AFK, but at least put them in harm's way for trying.


I really thought about it and think that this game is okay so far as far as balance. As things get added, the status quo can always change

I was trying to think of things that could use a nerf or buff.

BUFF:

Shotguns! Shotguns are pretty much useless in this game. Once in a while you'll have an exceptional game, but its just that, EXCEPTIONAL. The strafing hit boxes, there low range and damage output to RoF makes them not worth using if you actually want to succeed on a decent level in this game.

NOOB Lobbies. This game needs to add noob lobbies. Sending lamb into slaughter is not good for the player base. If you don't think that new players should get their own "Training Grounds", then I assume you are one of those pathetic players that kill BPOs and think they are God of New Eden because they went 12-0 for once during a match.

NERF:

Keyboard & Mouse. It needs to be taken out of the game. Its not fair to controller players, and consoles are meant to be played with controllers. Controllers don't belong in PC, and KB&M doesn't belong on a console shooters.

Mass Drivers. I did some thinking about this one. In a game that has Forge Guns, Flaylocks, and gives you 3 grenades to start with. A weapon that spams explosives doesn't have a place in the game. Explosives should always be limited as much as possible because the skill element leaves. All weapons in this game have damage drop off as the range increases (Except Snipers and Forges, but they have their own balancing) that makes up for it) A Mass driver can cause damage or get kills at all ranges, and doesn't require anything but spamming the trigger. You can argue that Mass Drivers take some skill, but it still allows you to just throw skill out the window and spam explosives at someone.

LAVs. Basically the only thing that needs to be nerfed is the Logi LAVs, 5000+ HP for a LAV is ridiculous.

MCC. Do away with it. Having a "Safe Zone" will just enable AFKing. You can't stop someone from trying to AFK, but at least put them in harm's way for trying.


I really thought about it and think that this game is okay so far as far as balance. As things get added, the status quo can always change

I was trying to think of things that could use a nerf or buff.

BUFF:

Shotguns! Shotguns are pretty much useless in this game. Once in a while you'll have an exceptional game, but its just that, EXCEPTIONAL. The strafing hit boxes, there low range and damage output to RoF makes them not worth using if you actually want to succeed on a decent level in this game.

NOOB Lobbies. This game needs to add noob lobbies. Sending lamb into slaughter is not good for the player base. If you don't think that new players should get their own "Training Grounds", then I assume you are one of those pathetic players that kill BPOs and think they are God of New Eden because they went 12-0 for once during a match.

NERF:

Keyboard & Mouse. It needs to be taken out of the game. Its not fair to controller players, and consoles are meant to be played with controllers. Controllers don't belong in PC, and KB&M doesn't belong on a console shooters.

Mass Drivers. I did some thinking about this one. In a game that has Forge Guns, Flaylocks, and gives you 3 grenades to start with. A weapon that spams explosives doesn't have a place in the game. Explosives should always be limited as much as possible because the skill element leaves. All weapons in this game have damage drop off as the range increases (Except Snipers and Forges, but they have their own balancing) that makes up for it) A Mass driver can cause damage or get kills at all ranges, and doesn't require anything but spamming the trigger. You can argue that Mass Drivers take some skill, but it still allows you to just throw skill out the window and spam explosives at someone.

LAVs. Basically the only thing that needs to be nerfed is the Logi LAVs, 5000+ HP for a LAV is ridiculous.

MCC. Do away with it. Having a "Safe Zone" will just enable AFKing. You can't stop someone from trying to AFK, but at least put them in harm's way for trying.


I really thought about it and think that this game is okay so far as far as balance. As things get added, the status quo can always change

Mass Drivers. I did some thinking about this one. In a game that has Forge Guns, Flaylocks, and gives you 3 grenades to start with. A weapon that spams explosives doesn't have a place in the game. Explosives should always be limited as much as possible because the skill element leaves. All weapons in this game have damage drop off as the range increases (Except Snipers and Forges, but they have their own balancing) that makes up for it) A Mass driver can cause damage or get kills at all ranges, and doesn't require anything but spamming the trigger. You can argue that Mass Drivers take some skill, but it still allows you to just throw skill out the window and spam explosives at someone.

I was trying to think of things that could use a nerf or buff.

NERF:

Keyboard & Mouse. It needs to be taken out of the game. Its not fair to controller players, and consoles are meant to be played with controllers. Controllers don't belong in PC, and KB&M doesn't belong on a console shooters. NO, JUST NO. it just going to be worst with Controller, by the time i play a round with controller i have sensitivity problems in Uprising 1.3. but with Keyboard and Mouse is pretty much better than using a controller because of sensitivity issues.

now for off-topic, some PC version's recommented choice is Controller (Like Ubisoft prefer using Controls on PCs)
some peoples uses Controller for better gameplay...let's say "Racing Games" or "Combat" heck i perfer using Keyboard for RPG or Shooters

Mass Drivers. I did some thinking about this one. In a game that has Forge Guns, Flaylocks, and gives you 3 grenades to start with. A weapon that spams explosives doesn't have a place in the game. Explosives should always be limited as much as possible because the skill element leaves. All weapons in this game have damage drop off as the range increases (Except Snipers and Forges, but they have their own balancing) that makes up for it) A Mass driver can cause damage or get kills at all ranges, and doesn't require anything but spamming the trigger. You can argue that Mass Drivers take some skill, but it still allows you to just throw skill out the window and spam explosives at someone. increact* Explosive damage instead

LAVs. Basically the only thing that needs to be nerfed is the Logi LAVs, 5000+ HP for a LAV is ridiculous. Should be for Heavy Class. instead of nerfing. just change health and done. :P

Really? The only thing that made sense in your post was the LLAVs. KB/M is completely fair. And who says KB/M isn't meant for console or controllers aren't meant for PC. If you're good enough with your aim with a controller you can beat a KB/M player.

A Controller can NEVER match KB&M. That isn't even a debate. That is why consoles and PC players have become so polar over shooters. KB&M is 100x more accurate and precise.(That's been proven in actual studies many times over the last 15 years).

I have yet to see a PC player come onto DUST and do better with a controller. I play PC too, I've used KB&M almost just as much as controller. KB&M and BY FAR easier. The human brain knows how to coordinate a mouse better than an analog stick any day. This is why we don't use controllers to surf the internet, play Minesweeper, or play shooters on a PC.


If you use KB&M, you suck as a player. If need to use KB&M in order just to play this game, you suck as a player. If you have higher accuracy with a KB&M you are the best player, because its all skill. When it comes to shooters, especially twitch shooters(Which DUST actually is, no matter how much you deny it) KB&M will always be so far ahead of controllers.

That's why controllers need aim assist for 99% of the players who use them, and that still doesn't even come close to leveling the playing field.




And as far as Mass Drivers. If you use the Mass Driver and it is your best weapon... well, that's all I need to say about you... Its called "Noob Tube" for a reason, because its so simple to use that noobs flocked to it. Funny how every other shooter ever made since CoD MW2 has taken efforts to reduce explosive launchers, but in DUST its different, because... because... because why? Oh yeah:
1. You have limited ammo. BUT yet you get more than any other shooter provides for noob tubes... so that doesn't hold water...
2. They reload slow. BUT every weapon in DUST reloads slow, and last i remember it took 3 seconds to reload a tube after every shot in CoD MW2. So if it was a noob tube in MW2, its not in DUST??
3. You can kill yourself with it. BUT you can do that with lasers and SCRs blowing up in your face. Your own grenades going off to close to you. Yes, hitting you tube on something near you just like all other shooters with tubes.

So its a noob tube in every other game but DUST, right?

Listen, Tube users have been in denial since FPS first implemented them. They'll argue complete bullshit and try to justify it until they are blue in the face. Its a noob tube, you use it because you are a NOOB (i.e.- a low skill scrub)

Really? The only thing that made sense in your post was the LLAVs. KB/M is completely fair. And who says KB/M isn't meant for console or controllers aren't meant for PC. If you're good enough with your aim with a controller you can beat a KB/M player.

and AR's spray bullets because their users can't aim.

How many bullets does it take to kill a player in this game? How many tubes??

Keep trying NOOB. Just accept yourself for what you are

How many bullets does it take to kill a player in this game? How many tubes??

Keep trying NOOB. Just accept yourself for what you are

Reported for bitchin

My GEK-38 with Prof 5 takes 14 bullets out of a clip, lets assume 20 if some bullets miss, of 60 to take out a moderately tanked medium suit so thats 4 clips so I can kill so thats 12 people

a MD with out fluxes takes 4(if not more for Cal suits) shots out of 6 in a clip to do the same, With fluxed 2 MD rounds for the same target.
with 3 fluxes thats 6 kills 3 fluxed targets and 3 non fluxed

12 kills vs 6 kills. Also, the MD user needs to sacrifice their ability to use AV nades unlike a AR user.

Enough with the Insults not need to get angry it's just a game.

I did too high five ^5

Wow, your flat out misinformed, bad at math, or just lying...
MDs are noob tubes, made for noobs

BUFF:

1. Shotguns! Shotguns are pretty much useless in this game. Once in a while you'll have an exceptional game, but its just that, EXCEPTIONAL. The strafing hit boxes, there low range and damage output to RoF makes them not worth using if you actually want to succeed on a decent level in this game.

2. NOOB Lobbies. This game needs to add noob lobbies. Sending lamb into slaughter is not good for the player base. If you don't think that new players should get their own "Training Grounds", then I assume you are one of those pathetic players that kill BPOs and think they are God of New Eden because they went 12-0 for once during a match.

NERF:

3. Keyboard & Mouse. It needs to be taken out of the game. Its not fair to controller players, and consoles are meant to be played with controllers. Controllers don't belong in PC, and KB&M doesn't belong on a console shooters.

4. Mass Drivers. I did some thinking about this one. In a game that has Forge Guns, Flaylocks, and gives you 3 grenades to start with. A weapon that spams explosives doesn't have a place in the game. Explosives should always be limited as much as possible because the skill element leaves. All weapons in this game have damage drop off as the range increases (Except Snipers and Forges, but they have their own balancing) that makes up for it) A Mass driver can cause damage or get kills at all ranges, and doesn't require anything but spamming the trigger. You can argue that Mass Drivers take some skill, but it still allows you to just throw skill out the window and spam explosives at someone.

5. LAVs. Basically the only thing that needs to be nerfed is the Logi LAVs, 5000+ HP for a LAV is ridiculous.

6. MCC. Do away with it. Having a "Safe Zone" will just enable AFKing. You can't stop someone from trying to AFK, but at least put them in harm's way for trying.

Keyboard & Mouse. It needs to be taken out of the game. Its not fair to controller players, and consoles are meant to be played with controllers. Controllers don't belong in PC, and KB&M doesn't belong on a console shooters.

if you say that the noobs preferred weapon automatically is called noob-tune then in dust the ar is the true noob-tube. have you ever played the academy? nothing but ar's because you get them for free in your starter fit.

i rin a minja suit and get killed by md's every now and then but not because they are op, is is my fault to engage a face-to-face battle against them knowing they will letme fly easily. but i also skilled the md, so i'm aware of its pros and cons and you sir just have to get above them, away from them or behind them and they have no chance at all. think about the downsides of a weappn first before crying for a nerf