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Cygnus Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
117
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:14:00 -
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So I was playing the other day and feeling like not too much has changed. Vehicle control has gotten a little better, but it's definitely not in the "good" category. Still major problems with hit detection (particularly w/ shotguns... maybe ARs) and splash damage. Player control not too fluid, public matches filled with AFK bots.... throwing grenades doesn't feel very 'good', etc, etc. Blah blah blah you guys know all of this too. So why are YOU sticking around? Are you thinking things are progressing well? Is there something you are looking forward to? You hear something about a new feature coming into the game or new fixes?
Just curious. Tired of the grind... |
Anita Hardone
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
231
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:16:00 -
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There is no silver lining. Go play BF3 if you want a shooter, or "ANY" other game besides DUST. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1021
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:16:00 -
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death bear |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
2213
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:16:00 -
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I'm sticking around because I'm hoping things will get better, mostly. Also PVE is on the distant, distant horizon. |
Illuminaughty-696
Galere Omega Battle Services
295
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:17:00 -
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Nope. I keep an eye on the forums but stopped playing. Might give it another shot after a month or two but the game is still basically a glorified beta. Plenty of people having fun, but just as many bored of the grind, especially when that grind can be invalidated overnight with an update or ninja edit. If you're not having fun give it another look in a couple months. One day this game will be good -- I hope. |
Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
344
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:17:00 -
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--(Transfer your ISK to my account!)-- |
BL4CKST4R
warravens League of Infamy
872
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:17:00 -
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10 year plan. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
2162
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:19:00 -
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If you leave, the SP system will permanently place you beneath those who stayed.
'Course, if you were serious about this at all, this wouldn't matter. |
Cygnus Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
117
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:19:00 -
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Anarchide wrote:--(Transfer your ISK to my account!)-- lol! My EvE player says "nyet!"
TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:If you leave, the SP system will permanently place you beneath those who stayed.
'Course, if you were serious about this at all, this wouldn't matter. Well... I'm already 'behind' at just 11 mil SP, but it's not all about SP in EvE (after about 40 mil SP)... can't imagine it will be in DUST. ...at least not when people are in the 50 mil SP+ range. |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2083
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:20:00 -
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I'm here for two reasons:
1. Dropships are fun to fly 2. The people in my corp are awesome
If I was skilled into infantry only, I would have quite a long time ago. |
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Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood
885
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:21:00 -
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ever since i started playing last summer my tanks have gotten nerf after nerf and not a single buff in sight. Jut a bunch of whiny noobs who cry cause their ar cant kill a tank, so they must have 2k damage nades instead. 3 of them.
More often then not CCP breaks 3 things when they TRY and fix 1. CCP breaks vehicle skills and instead of fixing it, they go, "Um, nvm. We want it this way. Here tanks, ANOTHER nerf :) now bend over..." CCP is incapable of correctly tweaking weapons and such without creating another absolutely OP flavor of the month. This game makes me rage because of the instability and the whole EVE link so far is just a gimmick, no matter how much i want to say otherwise.
All in all, the only thing that really made this game is potential and it is now a year later....Thing about potential is you have to reach it, otherwise you just have a flop. Seems like people are finally starting to reach that line where they are tired of waiting and taking 5 steps back for every 1 step forward with CCP. Literally, aside from PC, nothing has changed in this game for a year, other than maybe a couple extra weps and gameplay is finally STARTING to get better due to less lag and fps drops.
Im just very patient and think of the E3 build whenever I play and laugh at better days. |
Spunty
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
46
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:22:00 -
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Take a break.
Unless falling behind SP wise is not something you cannot live with, take some time off. Check the forums once in a while to see if things have gotten better and if so jump back in. If you aren't having fun just stop so you don't burn yourself out.
Disclosure: I've been on break since late May. I wasn't having fun anymore. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3781
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:23:00 -
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I'm waiting for all the forum whiners to leave when the PS4 comes out so CCP can get **** done without them holding back progress. |
Cygnus Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
117
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:24:00 -
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Spunty wrote:Take a break.
Unless falling behind SP wise is not something you can live with, take some time off. Check the forums once in a while to see if things have gotten better and if so jump back in. If you aren't having fun just stop so you don't burn yourself out.
Disclosure: I've been on break since late May. I wasn't having fun anymore. This is probably good advice. Wish I had gotten more passive boosters and fewer active though... |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3781
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:27:00 -
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Cygnus Gogela wrote:ROFL!!! You ever read the EvE forums? You are waiting for a cold day in hell, my friend As ADHD the console market is, it might wind up being a cold day in December. |
Anita Hardone
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
232
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:27:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:If you leave, the SP system will permanently place you beneath those who stayed.
'Course, if you were serious about this at all, this wouldn't matter.
The SP system is a joke.
Only thing its truly achieved is giving noobs something to complain about, and make the vets paranoid of falling behind so they find ways of getting it without actually playing the game. (ie AFK'ing) |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1437
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:32:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:I'm waiting for all the forum whiners to leave when the PS4 comes out so CCP can get **** done without them holding back progress.
Holding back progress?
The CCP Shanghai devs don't participate on this forum at all, so exactly what time is wasted? |
MlDDLE MANGEMENT
lMPurity
280
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:33:00 -
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You shouldn't, go play PS2 instead, you will thank me later. |
BF3 Noob
BATTLEFIELD FRIENDS
13
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:39:00 -
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Every time I go back to BF3 I push the wrong buttons. |
Cygnus Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
118
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:40:00 -
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MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote:You shouldn't, go play PS2 instead, you will thank me later. I don't think there's be a big graphics difference... and I could play Colony Wars. ...but I already got Wipeout HD for the PS3... but meh. I should play more Halo to get ready for Destiny probably. I've never played BF3 though (just haven't gotten around to picking up a copy) so maybe I'll do that too. |
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Cosgar
ParagonX
3784
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:43:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Cosgar wrote:I'm waiting for all the forum whiners to leave when the PS4 comes out so CCP can get **** done without them holding back progress. Holding back progress? lulz, you sound so disillusioned sometimes cosgar. The CCP Shanghai devs don't participate on this forum at all, so exactly what time is wasted? It's not about time wasted but motivation. In any business, how motivated are you really going to be to want to do your job when you're dealing with whiny consumers that disrespect anything and everything you do? If you don't think the toxicity and venomous hyperbole on these forums doesn't create an unhealthy working environment, I think you're the disillusioned one. Even though this game hasn't lived up to a lot of our expectations, I don't envy any CCP employee for having to deal with us. In fact, they don't have to deal with us, they choose to. Just having a part of that community that only seems to stay around to impose misery finally leave could be a much needed change for the better. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
987
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:44:00 -
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Cygnus Gogela wrote:So why are YOU sticking around?
Because I have fun and don't take the forums nor irc seriously. |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2084
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:45:00 -
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MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote:You shouldn't, go play PS2 instead, you will thank me later.
Agreed. Your outlook for Dust 514 will be so much better after playing that piece of crap. |
BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG
Expert Intervention Caldari State
336
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:46:00 -
[24] - Quote
Cosgar wrote:I'm waiting for all the forum whiners to leave when the PS4 comes out so CCP can get **** done without them holding back progress.
The most idiotic comment of all time? Gets my vote.
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dday3six
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
152
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:48:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:I'm waiting for all the forum whiners to leave when the PS4 comes out so CCP can get **** done without them holding back progress.
How are the forums holding back progress exactly? Companies contract underlings to perform peon work if your suggesting that sifting through the forums is taking up CCP's time. Then if you really think the forums are holding CCP up, how does that not do anything but negatively reflect on CCP for inability properly to manage PR. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2599
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:49:00 -
[26] - Quote
Look at eve. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3785
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:51:00 -
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BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:Cosgar wrote:I'm waiting for all the forum whiners to leave when the PS4 comes out so CCP can get **** done without them holding back progress. The most idiotic comment of all time? Gets my vote. Somethings only idiotic when you don't agree with it. |
dday3six
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
152
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:51:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Cosgar wrote:I'm waiting for all the forum whiners to leave when the PS4 comes out so CCP can get **** done without them holding back progress. Holding back progress? lulz, you sound so disillusioned sometimes cosgar. The CCP Shanghai devs don't participate on this forum at all, so exactly what time is wasted? It's not about time wasted but motivation. In any business, how motivated are you really going to be to want to do your job when you're dealing with whiny consumers that disrespect anything and everything you do? If you don't think the toxicity and venomous hyperbole on these forums doesn't create an unhealthy working environment, I think you're the disillusioned one. Even though this game hasn't lived up to a lot of our expectations, I don't envy any CCP employee for having to deal with us. In fact, they don't have to deal with us, they choose to. Just having a part of that community that only seems to stay around to impose misery finally leave could be a much needed change for the better.
You might have a point if the average forum rager could actually go to CCP in person and rage similarly to a person who asked for no cheese and got it anyway at McDonald's. However that's not the case. |
BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG
Expert Intervention Caldari State
336
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:52:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:Cosgar wrote:I'm waiting for all the forum whiners to leave when the PS4 comes out so CCP can get **** done without them holding back progress. The most idiotic comment of all time? Gets my vote. Somethings only idiotic when you don't agree with it.
No. Your comment was that people whining about the game on a forum was a distraction to the Devs. If you dont see how idiotic that is then my comment stands.
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Svipdagr Hero
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
30
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:54:00 -
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Because real tactics are used when great loss is involved. |
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cedz636
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
61
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:00:00 -
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Why am I sticking around? So I can smoke you on the battlefield. That is my sole reason and purpose for playing. I log on, and if I can't find you, I log off. You are the bane of my existence, and the only satisfaction I get from this game is when I see that Kill +60 pop up, simultaneous with a kill feed that says *cedz636 - militia scrambler pistol - cygnus gogela* |
Akdhar Saif
Resistance of Tomorrow
36
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:00:00 -
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The silver lining is you can drop Dust at any time, let SP accumulate and return when things have improved with SP to spend on new weapons etc etc.
The downside is that you may end up playing some high quality well polished FPS' and return to the slow and laggy gameplay Dust has. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3786
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:02:00 -
[33] - Quote
BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:Cosgar wrote:BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:Cosgar wrote:I'm waiting for all the forum whiners to leave when the PS4 comes out so CCP can get **** done without them holding back progress. The most idiotic comment of all time? Gets my vote. Somethings only idiotic when you don't agree with it. No. Your comment was that people whining about the game on a forum was a distraction to the Devs. If you dont see how idiotic that is then my comment stands. Riiight, like when IMPS pretty much owned the forums wasn't a distraction? How many important topics do you think went ignored during that time when they were being treated like the golden children of this game? |
BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG
Expert Intervention Caldari State
336
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:07:00 -
[34] - Quote
Cosgar wrote:BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:Cosgar wrote:BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:Cosgar wrote:I'm waiting for all the forum whiners to leave when the PS4 comes out so CCP can get **** done without them holding back progress. The most idiotic comment of all time? Gets my vote. Somethings only idiotic when you don't agree with it. No. Your comment was that people whining about the game on a forum was a distraction to the Devs. If you dont see how idiotic that is then my comment stands. Riiight, like when IMPS pretty much owned the forums wasn't a distraction? How many important topics do you think went ignored during that time when they were being treated like the golden children of this game?
You have proved yet again that you literally know nothing when it comes to Devs and what they do. What did the Imps suggest that the Devs implemented by the way? Nothing? Thought so.
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Cosgar
ParagonX
3790
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:12:00 -
[35] - Quote
BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote: You have proved yet again that you literally know nothing when it comes to Devs and what they do. What did the Imps suggest that the Devs implemented by the way? Nothing? Thought so.
I've already said that their incessant spam clogged the forums which is more than enough. Don't agree with me? IDGAF. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
845
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:13:00 -
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Cygnus Gogela wrote:So I was playing the other day and feeling like not too much has changed. Vehicle control has gotten a little better, but it's definitely not in the "good" category. Still major problems with hit detection (particularly w/ shotguns... maybe ARs) and splash damage. Player control not too fluid, public matches filled with AFK bots.... throwing grenades doesn't feel very 'good', etc, etc. Blah blah blah you guys know all of this too. So why are YOU sticking around? Are you thinking things are progressing well? Is there something you are looking forward to? You hear something about a new feature coming into the game or new fixes? Just curious. Tired of the grind...
Gogela, what do you do when you are tired of Eve?
Do that. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6867
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:14:00 -
[37] - Quote
I'm CPM I have to stick around. |
Killar-12
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
369
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:14:00 -
[38] - Quote
BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:
You have proved yet again that you literally know nothing when it comes to Devs and what they do. What did the Imps suggest that the Devs implemented by the way? Nothing? Thought so.
MD's, Tank's and something else I can't remeber in Chromosome |
GTA V FTW
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:20:00 -
[39] - Quote
September 17th and all the pain will go away.
<----------------------------------------------------------- |
Cygnus Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
118
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:22:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Cygnus Gogela wrote:So I was playing the other day and feeling like not too much has changed. Vehicle control has gotten a little better, but it's definitely not in the "good" category. Still major problems with hit detection (particularly w/ shotguns... maybe ARs) and splash damage. Player control not too fluid, public matches filled with AFK bots.... throwing grenades doesn't feel very 'good', etc, etc. Blah blah blah you guys know all of this too. So why are YOU sticking around? Are you thinking things are progressing well? Is there something you are looking forward to? You hear something about a new feature coming into the game or new fixes? Just curious. Tired of the grind... Gogela, what do you do when you are tired of Eve? Do that. I don't get tired of EvE. Sometimes I don't have enough time to sit down and really play, but for me, there's so much to do that even if I had 10 hours a day to play I wouldn't get tired of it. You can always gatecamp. Few things more satisfying than sitting on a less-used gate in the middle of nowheresville nullsec and having a transport fly into your bubble. If someone is bored with EvE they need to branch out. |
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BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG
Expert Intervention Caldari State
336
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:23:00 -
[41] - Quote
Cosgar wrote:BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote: You have proved yet again that you literally know nothing when it comes to Devs and what they do. What did the Imps suggest that the Devs implemented by the way? Nothing? Thought so.
I've already said that their incessant spam clogged the forums which is more than enough. Don't agree with me? IDGAF.
You should care when people point out how utterly clueless you are. You should be open to improving yourself. Otherwise you will continue having zero credibility by making idiotic comments all the time. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3796
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:23:00 -
[42] - Quote
GTA V FTW wrote:September 17th and all the pain will go away.
<----------------------------------------------------------- ^ proving my point. |
Kiro Justice
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
450
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:24:00 -
[43] - Quote
Because in 7 years when this game is halfway decent you can say you were here for the beginning...That's all I got... |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3796
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:24:00 -
[44] - Quote
BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:Cosgar wrote:BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote: You have proved yet again that you literally know nothing when it comes to Devs and what they do. What did the Imps suggest that the Devs implemented by the way? Nothing? Thought so.
I've already said that their incessant spam clogged the forums which is more than enough. Don't agree with me? IDGAF. You should care when people point out how utterly clueless you are. You should be open to improving yourself. Otherwise you will continue having zero credibility by making idiotic comments all the time. Who are you again? |
Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
532
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:26:00 -
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I still have fun and retain hope yet. I don't think there's a well-established vision right now, nor was there from the start... the important thing is that the Dust team might now have realised that in the past months which is the critical first step in righting it.
They have pressure on them, they're shackled by several factors they now have to work with, they're beset by the vocal part of their userbase. I'm sympathetic to CCP as their current circumstances are arduous and demoralising. Lack of experience in most capacities is hindering the project but bile and hostility isn't going to solve that. On the flipside, pretending nothing's wrong is also counterproductive. Presenting issues with clarity is good, exploring solutions or inciting such discussion after doing so is best. In practice doesn't often happen, defaults to bitching, ad hominem, general shitposting and those few who are either lost to logic or have an agenda.
People are frustrated, bitter, it's understandable. What they want, what they thought Dust would be, isn't there yet. Not even the outline of it. That's also true for me but I guess I'm easily entertained, can accept what it currently is and have as much fun with that as I can. Never wise to count on consumers being patient or easily pleased, though.
Could yet go places. The team needs to solidify that vision then start working out how to move toward it after taking a good hard look at the current state of things. It'll be a long road as this should've happened in very early development stages.
Not convinced there's ever been a solid leadership to the team either, there's a few parallels to some other instances I've seen of projects without a real leader. Or I could be applying experiences from something too unrelated to compare and I'm talking out of my arse, who knows. |
BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG
Expert Intervention Caldari State
337
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:32:00 -
[46] - Quote
Cosgar wrote:BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:Cosgar wrote:BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote: You have proved yet again that you literally know nothing when it comes to Devs and what they do. What did the Imps suggest that the Devs implemented by the way? Nothing? Thought so.
I've already said that their incessant spam clogged the forums which is more than enough. Don't agree with me? IDGAF. You should care when people point out how utterly clueless you are. You should be open to improving yourself. Otherwise you will continue having zero credibility by making idiotic comments all the time. Who are you again?
Aaaand another idiotic comment. Who cares who I am. Im Dr Phil
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Thor McStrut
Reckoners
92
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:33:00 -
[47] - Quote
It's free. Why not stick around. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3798
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:36:00 -
[48] - Quote
BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:Cosgar wrote:BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:Cosgar wrote:BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote: You have proved yet again that you literally know nothing when it comes to Devs and what they do. What did the Imps suggest that the Devs implemented by the way? Nothing? Thought so.
I've already said that their incessant spam clogged the forums which is more than enough. Don't agree with me? IDGAF. You should care when people point out how utterly clueless you are. You should be open to improving yourself. Otherwise you will continue having zero credibility by making idiotic comments all the time. Who are you again? Aaaand another idiotic comment. Who cares who I am. Im Dr Phil Oh I get it, you're one of those people that thinks they can impose their will through an electronic medium to create the illusion that your opinions matter. Petty insults, flaming, skirting issues, whatever it takes to make sure that everyone sees you as the alpha or some bull **** like that. You're right, who cares who you are? I certainly don't. |
Cygnus Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
119
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:38:00 -
[49] - Quote
Thor McStrut wrote:It's free. Why not stick around. Because Gamestop + used games. 5 bucks goes a long way. Free isn't a big draw for me. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1441
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:40:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Cosgar wrote:I'm waiting for all the forum whiners to leave when the PS4 comes out so CCP can get **** done without them holding back progress. Holding back progress? lulz, you sound so disillusioned sometimes cosgar. The CCP Shanghai devs don't participate on this forum at all, so exactly what time is wasted? It's not about time wasted but motivation. In any business, how motivated are you really going to be to want to do your job when you're dealing with whiny consumers that disrespect anything and everything you do? If you don't think the toxicity and venomous hyperbole on these forums doesn't create an unhealthy working environment, I think you're the disillusioned one. Even though this game hasn't lived up to a lot of our expectations, I don't envy any CCP employee for having to deal with us. In fact, they don't have to deal with us, they choose to. Just having a part of that community that only seems to stay around to impose misery finally leave could be a much needed change for the better.
Many QQ threads of late actually have pretty decent discussion in them.
The rest... I still don't believe they read that much of the forums.
Honestly... if people didn't care, they wouldn't waste their time posting on here. Its just that people are seriously frustrated with the lack of... well.. game.. in this game.
Even then... I still don't think developer time is wasted by QQ threads... the don't participate in the forums... pretty much at all with the exception of wolfman who has dropped a few gems here and there. And QQ threads are issues brought up by people who are generally unhappy with a certain aspect of this game.
Venomous posts are general player to player... on that note I could say all of the 'tear collector' posts from people pointing and laughing at cal logis are hurting this forum, and we would be better off if they all quit and left. |
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Cosgar
ParagonX
3798
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:46:00 -
[51] - Quote
ZDub 303 wrote:Cosgar wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Cosgar wrote:I'm waiting for all the forum whiners to leave when the PS4 comes out so CCP can get **** done without them holding back progress. Holding back progress? lulz, you sound so disillusioned sometimes cosgar. The CCP Shanghai devs don't participate on this forum at all, so exactly what time is wasted? It's not about time wasted but motivation. In any business, how motivated are you really going to be to want to do your job when you're dealing with whiny consumers that disrespect anything and everything you do? If you don't think the toxicity and venomous hyperbole on these forums doesn't create an unhealthy working environment, I think you're the disillusioned one. Even though this game hasn't lived up to a lot of our expectations, I don't envy any CCP employee for having to deal with us. In fact, they don't have to deal with us, they choose to. Just having a part of that community that only seems to stay around to impose misery finally leave could be a much needed change for the better. Many QQ threads of late actually have pretty decent discussion in them. The rest... I still don't believe they read that much of the forums. Honestly... if people didn't care, they wouldn't waste their time posting on here. Its just that people are seriously frustrated with the lack of... well.. game.. in this game. Everybody has the right to be frustrated, but instead of all the drama we have on here (some of it CCP could mitigate themselves) a lot of us could be a little more constructive. I care about this game as much as the next person and the last thing I want to see is our community destroying it from the inside out. Like I said in another topic, a part of me wishes that they'd shut down the forums every once in a while, but the though of this drama bleeding into the game where most of our community is oblivious to what goes on here, I snap to reality and realize that would only make things worse. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1441
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:48:00 -
[52] - Quote
Cosgar wrote:Everybody has the right to be frustrated, but instead of all the drama we have on here (some of it CCP could mitigate themselves) a lot of us could be a little more constructive. I care about this game as much as the next person and the last thing I want to see is our community destroying it from the inside out. Like I said in another topic, a part of me wishes that they'd shut down the forums every once in a while, but the though of this drama bleeding into the game where most of our community is oblivious to what goes on here, I snap to reality and realize that would only make things worse.
Whats the point of being constructive? You make a constructive post and they move to feedback/requests to die a slow and painful death.
You make a QQ thread and get 100 pages of replies and generally developers look at and listen to those threads.
Venom and hatred is the only way to be heard on these forums. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3799
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:52:00 -
[53] - Quote
ZDub 303 wrote:Cosgar wrote:Everybody has the right to be frustrated, but instead of all the drama we have on here (some of it CCP could mitigate themselves) a lot of us could be a little more constructive. I care about this game as much as the next person and the last thing I want to see is our community destroying it from the inside out. Like I said in another topic, a part of me wishes that they'd shut down the forums every once in a while, but the though of this drama bleeding into the game where most of our community is oblivious to what goes on here, I snap to reality and realize that would only make things worse. Whats the point of being constructive? You make a constructive post and they move to feedback/requests to die a slow and painful death. You make a QQ thread and get 100 pages of replies and generally developers look at and listen to those threads. Venom and hatred is the only way to be heard on these forums. It doesn't have to be that way. Whether better moderation, or the player community actually trying to respect each other, it doesn't have to be that way. We may shoot, blow up, incinerate, stab and run each other over but at the end of the day, we're all playing a game. |
BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG
Expert Intervention Caldari State
338
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:53:00 -
[54] - Quote
Cosgar wrote: Oh I get it, you're one of those people that thinks they can impose their will through an electronic medium to create the illusion that your opinions matter. Petty insults, flaming, skirting issues, whatever it takes to make sure that everyone sees you as the alpha or some bull **** like that. You're right, who cares who you are? I certainly don't.
So its the Imps fault that they made soo many threads and distracted the Devs from making any progress. LOL. Officially you are the one.
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1442
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:56:00 -
[55] - Quote
Cosgar wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Cosgar wrote:Everybody has the right to be frustrated, but instead of all the drama we have on here (some of it CCP could mitigate themselves) a lot of us could be a little more constructive. I care about this game as much as the next person and the last thing I want to see is our community destroying it from the inside out. Like I said in another topic, a part of me wishes that they'd shut down the forums every once in a while, but the though of this drama bleeding into the game where most of our community is oblivious to what goes on here, I snap to reality and realize that would only make things worse. Whats the point of being constructive? You make a constructive post and they move to feedback/requests to die a slow and painful death. You make a QQ thread and get 100 pages of replies and generally developers look at and listen to those threads. Venom and hatred is the only way to be heard on these forums. It doesn't have to be that way. Whether better moderation, or the player community actually trying to respect each other, it doesn't have to be that way. We may shoot, blow up, incinerate, stab and run each other over but at the end of the day, we're all playing a game.
Thats up to the devs... if they actually cared to post they could spark some serious constructive discussion. But they won't and don't care.
So instead its easier to just complain about how bad the game is... its certainly more fun than actually playing the game. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3799
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:56:00 -
[56] - Quote
BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:Cosgar wrote: Oh I get it, you're one of those people that thinks they can impose their will through an electronic medium to create the illusion that your opinions matter. Petty insults, flaming, skirting issues, whatever it takes to make sure that everyone sees you as the alpha or some bull **** like that. You're right, who cares who you are? I certainly don't.
So its the Imps fault that they made soo many threads and distracted the Devs from making any progress. LOL. Officially you are the one. Believe what you want. |
Kiro Justice
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
453
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Posted - 2013.08.02 01:01:00 -
[57] - Quote
Cosgar wrote:BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote: You have proved yet again that you literally know nothing when it comes to Devs and what they do. What did the Imps suggest that the Devs implemented by the way? Nothing? Thought so.
I've already said that their incessant spam clogged the forums which is more than enough. Don't agree with me? IDGAF.
I tried not to post, Cosgar I had come to respect you but...This is stupid and you defending this stupidity makes you stupid as well. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3799
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Posted - 2013.08.02 01:03:00 -
[58] - Quote
ZDub 303 wrote:Cosgar wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Cosgar wrote:Everybody has the right to be frustrated, but instead of all the drama we have on here (some of it CCP could mitigate themselves) a lot of us could be a little more constructive. I care about this game as much as the next person and the last thing I want to see is our community destroying it from the inside out. Like I said in another topic, a part of me wishes that they'd shut down the forums every once in a while, but the though of this drama bleeding into the game where most of our community is oblivious to what goes on here, I snap to reality and realize that would only make things worse. Whats the point of being constructive? You make a constructive post and they move to feedback/requests to die a slow and painful death. You make a QQ thread and get 100 pages of replies and generally developers look at and listen to those threads. Venom and hatred is the only way to be heard on these forums. It doesn't have to be that way. Whether better moderation, or the player community actually trying to respect each other, it doesn't have to be that way. We may shoot, blow up, incinerate, stab and run each other over but at the end of the day, we're all playing a game. Thats up to the devs... if they actually cared to post they could spark some serious constructive discussion. But they won't and don't care. So instead its easier to just complain about how bad the game is... its certainly more fun than actually playing the game. Here's what happens:
-Devs don't respond, everyone complains. -Devs decide to respond, everyone still complains. -Devs reduce TTK in Codex, everyone complains. -Devs increase TTK Uprising, everyone complains. -Devs start working on new content, everyone complains that they aren't working on balancing. -Devs start working on balancing, everyone rages complains they aren't working on new content.
Seeing a pattern? Whatever they do, someone is going to rage. Some people on here complain just for the sake of complaining. You can't please everyone and at this rate they might not. I'm really curios how this game would have turned out if they didn't have us giving feedback. |
BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG
Expert Intervention Caldari State
339
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Posted - 2013.08.02 01:05:00 -
[59] - Quote
Cosgar wrote:BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:Cosgar wrote: Oh I get it, you're one of those people that thinks they can impose their will through an electronic medium to create the illusion that your opinions matter. Petty insults, flaming, skirting issues, whatever it takes to make sure that everyone sees you as the alpha or some bull **** like that. You're right, who cares who you are? I certainly don't.
So its the Imps fault that they made soo many threads and distracted the Devs from making any progress. LOL. Officially you are the one. Believe what you want.
I do. I believe the comment you made blaming the community (Imps) for holding back the game is the most idiotic comment I have ever read on this forum and you get full credit. Cosgar. That name will always be remembered.
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BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG
Expert Intervention Caldari State
339
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Posted - 2013.08.02 01:07:00 -
[60] - Quote
Kiro Justice wrote:Cosgar wrote:BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote: You have proved yet again that you literally know nothing when it comes to Devs and what they do. What did the Imps suggest that the Devs implemented by the way? Nothing? Thought so.
I've already said that their incessant spam clogged the forums which is more than enough. Don't agree with me? IDGAF. I tried not to post, Cosgar I had come to respect you but...This is stupid and you defending this stupidity makes you stupid as well.
I tried to tell him I was helping him but his ego is fragile and hes sticking with it.
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Aleksander Black
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2013.08.02 01:08:00 -
[61] - Quote
Cygnus Gogela wrote:... So why are YOU sticking around?
I actually have fun playing it. |
Viktor Zokas
187.
113
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Posted - 2013.08.02 01:08:00 -
[62] - Quote
Cygnus Gogela wrote:So I was playing the other day and feeling like not too much has changed. Vehicle control has gotten a little better, but it's definitely not in the "good" category. Still major problems with hit detection (particularly w/ shotguns... maybe ARs) and splash damage. Player control not too fluid, public matches filled with AFK bots.... throwing grenades doesn't feel very 'good', etc, etc. Blah blah blah you guys know all of this too. So why are YOU sticking around? Are you thinking things are progressing well? Is there something you are looking forward to? You hear something about a new feature coming into the game or new fixes? Just curious. Tired of the grind...
I was sticking around because I was hoping CCP, after 2 months would be able to fix a lot of the performance issues. But here we are after 2 months. The performance issues are still here or are worst than before. The fact that I can set the game on low and still get horrible fps(~10) is just unacceptable.
O, it's not just the performance issues that irk me. Poor controls: why on earth does it feel like I am wrestling the game for control when I aim? Poor server / client talk: When guys are able to exploit the poor server/client talk to fit up stamina packs and a MD and bunny hop knowing that horrible client reliability makes their tactic impossible to go up against. It's not just a HTFU moment either, it's more of 'Why the **** should I bother?" It's not even the people who use MD's fault, it's the only way to play to win atm. If you're competitive, why spec into something that is so unreliable?
Voice Comms blunder, the patch has broken the ability to mute clients.(1.3) While fixing the issue of priority talkers, the extra bandwidth of having to support 16 people in a match from the inability to mute makes no difference in the performance and puts everyone back to square one.
Hell, you'd think that performance would be a top priority. Because despite adding content or fixing balance issues to get applause. Performance issues that just makes the game plain frustrating is the true game killer, and it's starting to wear on a lot of people quickly.
Basically the end result comes down to: Why play this game to beta test, when I play other games I enjoy without the frustration of having to deal with the issues? CCP quote on the blog said "We're all in this together.". Well sadly, a lot of people are getting tired of sticking by your side while you take your time. |
Kinkku-Ananas Kepappi
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
62
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Posted - 2013.08.02 01:16:00 -
[63] - Quote
I still hope CCP makes it big with this game, but I'm a bit worried.
FIrst I played a lot, grinding the cap for two character, then I AFKed a lot, now I don't even feel like starting up my PS3.
At least I can still post on the forums without an active sub unlike eve \o/ |
ROADKILLURAZZ
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.08.02 01:23:00 -
[64] - Quote
Cygnus Gogela wrote:So I was playing the other day and feeling like not too much has changed. Vehicle control has gotten a little better, but it's definitely not in the "good" category. Still major problems with hit detection (particularly w/ shotguns... maybe ARs) and splash damage. Player control not too fluid, public matches filled with AFK bots.... throwing grenades doesn't feel very 'good', etc, etc. Blah blah blah you guys know all of this too. So why are YOU sticking around? Are you thinking things are progressing well? Is there something you are looking forward to? You hear something about a new feature coming into the game or new fixes? Just curious. Tired of the grind... Come back in 7 years. You "should" see something new by then! |
dday3six
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
152
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Posted - 2013.08.02 01:29:00 -
[65] - Quote
I stick around because a lot my friends from Space Marine still play, and it's fun to play with them. |
Medical Crash
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415
38
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Posted - 2013.08.02 01:30:00 -
[66] - Quote
The aiming system is messed up in DUST right now, I'd come back once they fix it. And when CCP finally does fix it...Oh my lawd....people will be TERRIFIED to come in close quarters. No one fears CQC right now and that's because not many people use SG's, it's mostly AR's. The shotty ratio will go up once they fix the aiming problems. |
HYENAKILLER X
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
101
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Posted - 2013.08.02 01:56:00 -
[67] - Quote
Cygnus Gogela wrote:So I was playing the other day and feeling like not too much has changed. Vehicle control has gotten a little better, but it's definitely not in the "good" category. Still major problems with hit detection (particularly w/ shotguns... maybe ARs) and splash damage. Player control not too fluid, public matches filled with AFK bots.... throwing grenades doesn't feel very 'good', etc, etc. Blah blah blah you guys know all of this too. So why are YOU sticking around? Are you thinking things are progressing well? Is there something you are looking forward to? You hear something about a new feature coming into the game or new fixes? Just curious. Tired of the grind...
People are cool Maps are huge Mastering aiming in dust makes you godly plenty of options for weapons Im here, I rule Game/account always progresses Balacs assault rifle Phone books Cabbage tree huggers
There. |
Cygnus Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
120
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Posted - 2013.08.02 03:32:00 -
[68] - Quote
I played a couple rounds tonight. It's time for a break. See you guys in a year. o7 |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax.
797
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Posted - 2013.08.02 05:09:00 -
[69] - Quote
GTA V FTW wrote:September 17th and all the pain will go away.
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You're boring. |
Lucrezia LeGrand
Delta Enterprise
38
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Posted - 2013.08.02 05:50:00 -
[70] - Quote
Maybe because I never really played shooters before (I liked Nintendo games and RPG's) but I really like Dust 514. It's a lot of fun because I don't make it the end-all of my life. K/D ratio sucks in a match? who cares? Just lost a ton of isk? Then I'll make some suits that cost less than 10,000. The point is it's just a game and as long as I treat it that way I can't be angry for what happens.
Also, I love how much I've been able to customize my soldier. This makes me feel like she's really unique compared to the other clones running around and that I have that much more invested in playing her.
If there's any negative side to playing Dust 514 is the crap I get from my gamer friends. For a long time they've been trying to get me to play Call of Duty, Gears of War and BF while I've been happy chillin' in Hyrule. Now that I'm playing a shooting game they're like "oh, that game. you should play a REAL game!"
Well, you know what?!? I like Dust 514! You can cram your sweaty muscle steroid misogynists and shove them up your-
*ahem* sorry. got a little carried away. I play Dust because I like the game. I don't need anyone to tell me why I should or shouldn't like something. Dust all the way.
I do take a lot of breaks in between marathon sessions though... ._. |
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Cygnus Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
121
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Posted - 2013.08.02 06:29:00 -
[71] - Quote
Lucrezia LeGrand wrote:Maybe because I never really played shooters before (I liked Nintendo games and RPG's) but I really like Dust 514. It's a lot of fun because I don't make it the end-all of my life. K/D ratio sucks in a match? who cares? Just lost a ton of isk? Then I'll make some suits that cost less than 10,000. The point is it's just a game and as long as I treat it that way I can't be angry for what happens.
Also, I love how much I've been able to customize my soldier. This makes me feel like she's really unique compared to the other clones running around and that I have that much more invested in playing her.
If there's any negative side to playing Dust 514 is the crap I get from my gamer friends. For a long time they've been trying to get me to play Call of Duty, Gears of War and BF while I've been happy chillin' in Hyrule. Now that I'm playing a shooting game they're like "oh, that game. you should play a REAL game!"
Well, you know what?!? I like Dust 514! You can cram your sweaty muscle steroid misogynists and shove them up your-
*ahem* sorry. got a little carried away. I play Dust because I like the game. I don't need anyone to tell me why I should or shouldn't like something. Dust all the way.
I do take a lot of breaks in between marathon sessions though... ._. Play Halo 1 (anniversary ed) - 4 including ODST. It's an incredible ride. I love it. Do it for yourself. I think it's a breathtaking series.
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
434
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Posted - 2013.08.02 06:37:00 -
[72] - Quote
I play because I enjoy it....youre always going to have matches where you get stomped either legitimately or by arguably cheap tactics, but overall I have a lot of fun playing.
no small part is due to my corp and having a lot of great people to squad with (good team work good chat good laughs)
no one can tell you why you should play... if you don't like dust I say quit, life is to short to do unnessesary things you dislike, theres enough in life you have to do you don't like in life right?
come back from time to time if you think there is something here you want to be a part of...
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Yan Darn
DUST University Ivy League
6
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Posted - 2013.08.02 07:06:00 -
[73] - Quote
I thought it was because anyone now who is still playing in 3 years time gets to use this as their personal theme tune:
Have faith (I'm on my phone so the link may need changing slightly)
Especially 1:30 - 3mins
No? That is what I was lead to believe anyway... |
Cygnus Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
121
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Posted - 2013.08.02 08:00:00 -
[74] - Quote
ROFL!!! |
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