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cedz636
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:00:00 -
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Why am I sticking around? So I can smoke you on the battlefield. That is my sole reason and purpose for playing. I log on, and if I can't find you, I log off. You are the bane of my existence, and the only satisfaction I get from this game is when I see that Kill +60 pop up, simultaneous with a kill feed that says *cedz636 - militia scrambler pistol - cygnus gogela* |
Akdhar Saif
Resistance of Tomorrow
36
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:00:00 -
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The silver lining is you can drop Dust at any time, let SP accumulate and return when things have improved with SP to spend on new weapons etc etc.
The downside is that you may end up playing some high quality well polished FPS' and return to the slow and laggy gameplay Dust has. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3786
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:02:00 -
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BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:Cosgar wrote:BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:Cosgar wrote:I'm waiting for all the forum whiners to leave when the PS4 comes out so CCP can get **** done without them holding back progress. The most idiotic comment of all time? Gets my vote. Somethings only idiotic when you don't agree with it. No. Your comment was that people whining about the game on a forum was a distraction to the Devs. If you dont see how idiotic that is then my comment stands. Riiight, like when IMPS pretty much owned the forums wasn't a distraction? How many important topics do you think went ignored during that time when they were being treated like the golden children of this game? |
BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG
Expert Intervention Caldari State
336
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:07:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:Cosgar wrote:BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:Cosgar wrote:I'm waiting for all the forum whiners to leave when the PS4 comes out so CCP can get **** done without them holding back progress. The most idiotic comment of all time? Gets my vote. Somethings only idiotic when you don't agree with it. No. Your comment was that people whining about the game on a forum was a distraction to the Devs. If you dont see how idiotic that is then my comment stands. Riiight, like when IMPS pretty much owned the forums wasn't a distraction? How many important topics do you think went ignored during that time when they were being treated like the golden children of this game?
You have proved yet again that you literally know nothing when it comes to Devs and what they do. What did the Imps suggest that the Devs implemented by the way? Nothing? Thought so.
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Cosgar
ParagonX
3790
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:12:00 -
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BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote: You have proved yet again that you literally know nothing when it comes to Devs and what they do. What did the Imps suggest that the Devs implemented by the way? Nothing? Thought so.
I've already said that their incessant spam clogged the forums which is more than enough. Don't agree with me? IDGAF. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
845
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:13:00 -
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Cygnus Gogela wrote:So I was playing the other day and feeling like not too much has changed. Vehicle control has gotten a little better, but it's definitely not in the "good" category. Still major problems with hit detection (particularly w/ shotguns... maybe ARs) and splash damage. Player control not too fluid, public matches filled with AFK bots.... throwing grenades doesn't feel very 'good', etc, etc. Blah blah blah you guys know all of this too. So why are YOU sticking around? Are you thinking things are progressing well? Is there something you are looking forward to? You hear something about a new feature coming into the game or new fixes? Just curious. Tired of the grind...
Gogela, what do you do when you are tired of Eve?
Do that. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6867
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:14:00 -
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I'm CPM I have to stick around. |
Killar-12
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
369
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:14:00 -
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BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:
You have proved yet again that you literally know nothing when it comes to Devs and what they do. What did the Imps suggest that the Devs implemented by the way? Nothing? Thought so.
MD's, Tank's and something else I can't remeber in Chromosome |
GTA V FTW
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:20:00 -
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September 17th and all the pain will go away.
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Cygnus Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
118
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:22:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Cygnus Gogela wrote:So I was playing the other day and feeling like not too much has changed. Vehicle control has gotten a little better, but it's definitely not in the "good" category. Still major problems with hit detection (particularly w/ shotguns... maybe ARs) and splash damage. Player control not too fluid, public matches filled with AFK bots.... throwing grenades doesn't feel very 'good', etc, etc. Blah blah blah you guys know all of this too. So why are YOU sticking around? Are you thinking things are progressing well? Is there something you are looking forward to? You hear something about a new feature coming into the game or new fixes? Just curious. Tired of the grind... Gogela, what do you do when you are tired of Eve? Do that. I don't get tired of EvE. Sometimes I don't have enough time to sit down and really play, but for me, there's so much to do that even if I had 10 hours a day to play I wouldn't get tired of it. You can always gatecamp. Few things more satisfying than sitting on a less-used gate in the middle of nowheresville nullsec and having a transport fly into your bubble. If someone is bored with EvE they need to branch out. |
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BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG
Expert Intervention Caldari State
336
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:23:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote: You have proved yet again that you literally know nothing when it comes to Devs and what they do. What did the Imps suggest that the Devs implemented by the way? Nothing? Thought so.
I've already said that their incessant spam clogged the forums which is more than enough. Don't agree with me? IDGAF.
You should care when people point out how utterly clueless you are. You should be open to improving yourself. Otherwise you will continue having zero credibility by making idiotic comments all the time. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3796
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:23:00 -
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GTA V FTW wrote:September 17th and all the pain will go away.
<----------------------------------------------------------- ^ proving my point. |
Kiro Justice
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
450
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:24:00 -
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Because in 7 years when this game is halfway decent you can say you were here for the beginning...That's all I got... |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3796
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:24:00 -
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BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:Cosgar wrote:BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote: You have proved yet again that you literally know nothing when it comes to Devs and what they do. What did the Imps suggest that the Devs implemented by the way? Nothing? Thought so.
I've already said that their incessant spam clogged the forums which is more than enough. Don't agree with me? IDGAF. You should care when people point out how utterly clueless you are. You should be open to improving yourself. Otherwise you will continue having zero credibility by making idiotic comments all the time. Who are you again? |
Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
532
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:26:00 -
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I still have fun and retain hope yet. I don't think there's a well-established vision right now, nor was there from the start... the important thing is that the Dust team might now have realised that in the past months which is the critical first step in righting it.
They have pressure on them, they're shackled by several factors they now have to work with, they're beset by the vocal part of their userbase. I'm sympathetic to CCP as their current circumstances are arduous and demoralising. Lack of experience in most capacities is hindering the project but bile and hostility isn't going to solve that. On the flipside, pretending nothing's wrong is also counterproductive. Presenting issues with clarity is good, exploring solutions or inciting such discussion after doing so is best. In practice doesn't often happen, defaults to bitching, ad hominem, general shitposting and those few who are either lost to logic or have an agenda.
People are frustrated, bitter, it's understandable. What they want, what they thought Dust would be, isn't there yet. Not even the outline of it. That's also true for me but I guess I'm easily entertained, can accept what it currently is and have as much fun with that as I can. Never wise to count on consumers being patient or easily pleased, though.
Could yet go places. The team needs to solidify that vision then start working out how to move toward it after taking a good hard look at the current state of things. It'll be a long road as this should've happened in very early development stages.
Not convinced there's ever been a solid leadership to the team either, there's a few parallels to some other instances I've seen of projects without a real leader. Or I could be applying experiences from something too unrelated to compare and I'm talking out of my arse, who knows. |
BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG
Expert Intervention Caldari State
337
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:32:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:Cosgar wrote:BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote: You have proved yet again that you literally know nothing when it comes to Devs and what they do. What did the Imps suggest that the Devs implemented by the way? Nothing? Thought so.
I've already said that their incessant spam clogged the forums which is more than enough. Don't agree with me? IDGAF. You should care when people point out how utterly clueless you are. You should be open to improving yourself. Otherwise you will continue having zero credibility by making idiotic comments all the time. Who are you again?
Aaaand another idiotic comment. Who cares who I am. Im Dr Phil
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Thor McStrut
Reckoners
92
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:33:00 -
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It's free. Why not stick around. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3798
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:36:00 -
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BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:Cosgar wrote:BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:Cosgar wrote:BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote: You have proved yet again that you literally know nothing when it comes to Devs and what they do. What did the Imps suggest that the Devs implemented by the way? Nothing? Thought so.
I've already said that their incessant spam clogged the forums which is more than enough. Don't agree with me? IDGAF. You should care when people point out how utterly clueless you are. You should be open to improving yourself. Otherwise you will continue having zero credibility by making idiotic comments all the time. Who are you again? Aaaand another idiotic comment. Who cares who I am. Im Dr Phil Oh I get it, you're one of those people that thinks they can impose their will through an electronic medium to create the illusion that your opinions matter. Petty insults, flaming, skirting issues, whatever it takes to make sure that everyone sees you as the alpha or some bull **** like that. You're right, who cares who you are? I certainly don't. |
Cygnus Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
119
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:38:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:It's free. Why not stick around. Because Gamestop + used games. 5 bucks goes a long way. Free isn't a big draw for me. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1441
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:40:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Cosgar wrote:I'm waiting for all the forum whiners to leave when the PS4 comes out so CCP can get **** done without them holding back progress. Holding back progress? lulz, you sound so disillusioned sometimes cosgar. The CCP Shanghai devs don't participate on this forum at all, so exactly what time is wasted? It's not about time wasted but motivation. In any business, how motivated are you really going to be to want to do your job when you're dealing with whiny consumers that disrespect anything and everything you do? If you don't think the toxicity and venomous hyperbole on these forums doesn't create an unhealthy working environment, I think you're the disillusioned one. Even though this game hasn't lived up to a lot of our expectations, I don't envy any CCP employee for having to deal with us. In fact, they don't have to deal with us, they choose to. Just having a part of that community that only seems to stay around to impose misery finally leave could be a much needed change for the better.
Many QQ threads of late actually have pretty decent discussion in them.
The rest... I still don't believe they read that much of the forums.
Honestly... if people didn't care, they wouldn't waste their time posting on here. Its just that people are seriously frustrated with the lack of... well.. game.. in this game.
Even then... I still don't think developer time is wasted by QQ threads... the don't participate in the forums... pretty much at all with the exception of wolfman who has dropped a few gems here and there. And QQ threads are issues brought up by people who are generally unhappy with a certain aspect of this game.
Venomous posts are general player to player... on that note I could say all of the 'tear collector' posts from people pointing and laughing at cal logis are hurting this forum, and we would be better off if they all quit and left. |
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Cosgar
ParagonX
3798
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:46:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Cosgar wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Cosgar wrote:I'm waiting for all the forum whiners to leave when the PS4 comes out so CCP can get **** done without them holding back progress. Holding back progress? lulz, you sound so disillusioned sometimes cosgar. The CCP Shanghai devs don't participate on this forum at all, so exactly what time is wasted? It's not about time wasted but motivation. In any business, how motivated are you really going to be to want to do your job when you're dealing with whiny consumers that disrespect anything and everything you do? If you don't think the toxicity and venomous hyperbole on these forums doesn't create an unhealthy working environment, I think you're the disillusioned one. Even though this game hasn't lived up to a lot of our expectations, I don't envy any CCP employee for having to deal with us. In fact, they don't have to deal with us, they choose to. Just having a part of that community that only seems to stay around to impose misery finally leave could be a much needed change for the better. Many QQ threads of late actually have pretty decent discussion in them. The rest... I still don't believe they read that much of the forums. Honestly... if people didn't care, they wouldn't waste their time posting on here. Its just that people are seriously frustrated with the lack of... well.. game.. in this game. Everybody has the right to be frustrated, but instead of all the drama we have on here (some of it CCP could mitigate themselves) a lot of us could be a little more constructive. I care about this game as much as the next person and the last thing I want to see is our community destroying it from the inside out. Like I said in another topic, a part of me wishes that they'd shut down the forums every once in a while, but the though of this drama bleeding into the game where most of our community is oblivious to what goes on here, I snap to reality and realize that would only make things worse. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1441
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:48:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Everybody has the right to be frustrated, but instead of all the drama we have on here (some of it CCP could mitigate themselves) a lot of us could be a little more constructive. I care about this game as much as the next person and the last thing I want to see is our community destroying it from the inside out. Like I said in another topic, a part of me wishes that they'd shut down the forums every once in a while, but the though of this drama bleeding into the game where most of our community is oblivious to what goes on here, I snap to reality and realize that would only make things worse.
Whats the point of being constructive? You make a constructive post and they move to feedback/requests to die a slow and painful death.
You make a QQ thread and get 100 pages of replies and generally developers look at and listen to those threads.
Venom and hatred is the only way to be heard on these forums. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3799
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:52:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Cosgar wrote:Everybody has the right to be frustrated, but instead of all the drama we have on here (some of it CCP could mitigate themselves) a lot of us could be a little more constructive. I care about this game as much as the next person and the last thing I want to see is our community destroying it from the inside out. Like I said in another topic, a part of me wishes that they'd shut down the forums every once in a while, but the though of this drama bleeding into the game where most of our community is oblivious to what goes on here, I snap to reality and realize that would only make things worse. Whats the point of being constructive? You make a constructive post and they move to feedback/requests to die a slow and painful death. You make a QQ thread and get 100 pages of replies and generally developers look at and listen to those threads. Venom and hatred is the only way to be heard on these forums. It doesn't have to be that way. Whether better moderation, or the player community actually trying to respect each other, it doesn't have to be that way. We may shoot, blow up, incinerate, stab and run each other over but at the end of the day, we're all playing a game. |
BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG
Expert Intervention Caldari State
338
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:53:00 -
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Cosgar wrote: Oh I get it, you're one of those people that thinks they can impose their will through an electronic medium to create the illusion that your opinions matter. Petty insults, flaming, skirting issues, whatever it takes to make sure that everyone sees you as the alpha or some bull **** like that. You're right, who cares who you are? I certainly don't.
So its the Imps fault that they made soo many threads and distracted the Devs from making any progress. LOL. Officially you are the one.
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1442
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:56:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Cosgar wrote:Everybody has the right to be frustrated, but instead of all the drama we have on here (some of it CCP could mitigate themselves) a lot of us could be a little more constructive. I care about this game as much as the next person and the last thing I want to see is our community destroying it from the inside out. Like I said in another topic, a part of me wishes that they'd shut down the forums every once in a while, but the though of this drama bleeding into the game where most of our community is oblivious to what goes on here, I snap to reality and realize that would only make things worse. Whats the point of being constructive? You make a constructive post and they move to feedback/requests to die a slow and painful death. You make a QQ thread and get 100 pages of replies and generally developers look at and listen to those threads. Venom and hatred is the only way to be heard on these forums. It doesn't have to be that way. Whether better moderation, or the player community actually trying to respect each other, it doesn't have to be that way. We may shoot, blow up, incinerate, stab and run each other over but at the end of the day, we're all playing a game.
Thats up to the devs... if they actually cared to post they could spark some serious constructive discussion. But they won't and don't care.
So instead its easier to just complain about how bad the game is... its certainly more fun than actually playing the game. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3799
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:56:00 -
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BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:Cosgar wrote: Oh I get it, you're one of those people that thinks they can impose their will through an electronic medium to create the illusion that your opinions matter. Petty insults, flaming, skirting issues, whatever it takes to make sure that everyone sees you as the alpha or some bull **** like that. You're right, who cares who you are? I certainly don't.
So its the Imps fault that they made soo many threads and distracted the Devs from making any progress. LOL. Officially you are the one. Believe what you want. |
Kiro Justice
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
453
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Posted - 2013.08.02 01:01:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote: You have proved yet again that you literally know nothing when it comes to Devs and what they do. What did the Imps suggest that the Devs implemented by the way? Nothing? Thought so.
I've already said that their incessant spam clogged the forums which is more than enough. Don't agree with me? IDGAF.
I tried not to post, Cosgar I had come to respect you but...This is stupid and you defending this stupidity makes you stupid as well. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3799
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Posted - 2013.08.02 01:03:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Cosgar wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Cosgar wrote:Everybody has the right to be frustrated, but instead of all the drama we have on here (some of it CCP could mitigate themselves) a lot of us could be a little more constructive. I care about this game as much as the next person and the last thing I want to see is our community destroying it from the inside out. Like I said in another topic, a part of me wishes that they'd shut down the forums every once in a while, but the though of this drama bleeding into the game where most of our community is oblivious to what goes on here, I snap to reality and realize that would only make things worse. Whats the point of being constructive? You make a constructive post and they move to feedback/requests to die a slow and painful death. You make a QQ thread and get 100 pages of replies and generally developers look at and listen to those threads. Venom and hatred is the only way to be heard on these forums. It doesn't have to be that way. Whether better moderation, or the player community actually trying to respect each other, it doesn't have to be that way. We may shoot, blow up, incinerate, stab and run each other over but at the end of the day, we're all playing a game. Thats up to the devs... if they actually cared to post they could spark some serious constructive discussion. But they won't and don't care. So instead its easier to just complain about how bad the game is... its certainly more fun than actually playing the game. Here's what happens:
-Devs don't respond, everyone complains. -Devs decide to respond, everyone still complains. -Devs reduce TTK in Codex, everyone complains. -Devs increase TTK Uprising, everyone complains. -Devs start working on new content, everyone complains that they aren't working on balancing. -Devs start working on balancing, everyone rages complains they aren't working on new content.
Seeing a pattern? Whatever they do, someone is going to rage. Some people on here complain just for the sake of complaining. You can't please everyone and at this rate they might not. I'm really curios how this game would have turned out if they didn't have us giving feedback. |
BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG
Expert Intervention Caldari State
339
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Posted - 2013.08.02 01:05:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:Cosgar wrote: Oh I get it, you're one of those people that thinks they can impose their will through an electronic medium to create the illusion that your opinions matter. Petty insults, flaming, skirting issues, whatever it takes to make sure that everyone sees you as the alpha or some bull **** like that. You're right, who cares who you are? I certainly don't.
So its the Imps fault that they made soo many threads and distracted the Devs from making any progress. LOL. Officially you are the one. Believe what you want.
I do. I believe the comment you made blaming the community (Imps) for holding back the game is the most idiotic comment I have ever read on this forum and you get full credit. Cosgar. That name will always be remembered.
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BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG
Expert Intervention Caldari State
339
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Posted - 2013.08.02 01:07:00 -
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Kiro Justice wrote:Cosgar wrote:BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote: You have proved yet again that you literally know nothing when it comes to Devs and what they do. What did the Imps suggest that the Devs implemented by the way? Nothing? Thought so.
I've already said that their incessant spam clogged the forums which is more than enough. Don't agree with me? IDGAF. I tried not to post, Cosgar I had come to respect you but...This is stupid and you defending this stupidity makes you stupid as well.
I tried to tell him I was helping him but his ego is fragile and hes sticking with it.
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