I'll tell you one thing: when Wolfman and his team finish up the new aim-assist system and we get performance updates to keep the framerate stable to help it work properly, GD is going to be DROWNING in OP AR threads.

Or you could say something about how plasma works best when it is freshly 'spun' or when the charges aren't streaming for long. You could give the gallente AR a kind of 'heat mechanic' where it started 105%damaged when charged, and the plasma would do down to 75% of its damage if you hold it for longer periods.

So it would effectively be the opposite of the laser rifle. It would never 'overheat' but would do the most damage if you fire it a little slower.

Just to clarify, this should only be on the full auto AR as a way to encourage people to use the TAC, breach, and burst AR.

Just to clarify, this should only be on the full auto AR as a way to encourage people to use the TAC, breach, and burst AR.

Nobody will use the Breach.
100 less DPS than the normal AR.
:|

When this is going to end ? The AR gets nerf, after nerf, after nerf...is like the never ending story. You may also start nerfing players too .. because you like it or not, the AR is a favorite weapon for FPS players.

TAC AR is still usable, and used quite often lol. It's just not a "I win button" at all ranges.

Nobody will use the Breach.
100 less DPS than the normal AR.
:|

Yeah, we all know the breach needs a buff. Let's just not have a repeat of beta

An Assault Rifle is an "all situations" weapon... that is what it is by design.. the reason why every front line soldier, in every army in the world have one.

Here how it would most likely play out if that were to happen:

AR is OP legit.
*dispersion is increased* *people move to the SR because it hasnt changed*

*SR is now deemed OP for some reason*
OMG screw Scramble Rfles, too accurate.
*increased recoil and dispersion* (lol for a gun that shoots lasers why does it even have recoil anyways)

*People then pick up ARs again*
AR's OP, too good against shields.
*nerf to shield damage*

*Shotgun is FOTM*
Shotgun Thread
*nerfd back into oblivion*

*people go back to roadkilling everything*
Constant QQ about LAV's
*CCP removes LAV's altogether for "re-balancing"*

*Sub Machine Gun is FOTM*
Sub Machine Gun is too powerful.
*base damage nerf*

*Lazer rifles make a come back*
Laser rifle is the best infantry ranged weapon.
*CCP now make it useless again by decreasing its range*

*Now we cant carry enough ammo to kill one person*
CCP acknowledges this with a vague post that doesnt really reveal or confirm much of anything.
*Shield and Armor capacity is ninja nerfd 24 hours after the dev post*

*Sniper Rifles can OHK everything now*
People complain about MCC/Redline snipers.
*...nothing happens...*

*maps now seem even more desolate because of the new effective ranges of all weapons*
All firefights except those with forges and snipers must be withing 20 meters to do damage/hit an enemy.
*CCP realizes this an therefore decreases all skirmish maps by 1/2*



.... and thats as far as my minds eye will let me see.

It just baffles me that there is this much disparity. Although the breach will eventually be the combat rifle right? But of all the racial variant AR clones you'd think the Gallente AR would have the best close range ARs.

No, the Breach is the equivalent of the Rail Rifle. The Burst AR is the equivalent of the Combat Rifle.

When this is going to end ? The AR gets nerf, after nerf, after nerf...is like the never ending story. You may also start nerfing players too .. because you like it or not, the AR is a favorite weapon for FPS players.

Okay, that really makes no sense then that the Gallente's shortest range AR would be a clone of what supposedly will be the longest range rifle variants...

I think the idea is to offer a similar rate of fire and dispersion, but with a more Gallente focus of doing heavy damage up close.

The only problem is that it has been nerfed into being useless ever since the E3 build ended. Uprising improved it, but not enough.

An Assault Rifle is an "all situations" weapon... that is what it is by design.. the reason why every front line soldier, in every army in the world have one.

I totally agree CCP somewhat messed up with all the placeholder weapons

Noticing the thread posted earlier on magazine size made me want to bring up a point I've made before:

I don't believe the magazine size is an issue, or that the weapon needs some kind of jamming feature or overheat to balance it out.

The only issue there seems to be with that weapon is the very low rate of dispersion build. With the way the weapon functions right now, and especially with the AR skills and Sharpshooter skill, at higher levels you can shoot through your entire magazine with no major loss of accuracy. Even at lower skill levels you can still fire for quite a while before your accuracy starts to suffer.

I think the only change that they Gallente Assault Rifle needs is an increase to the rate of dispersion increase in order to incentivize firing in long bursts as opposed to just holding down the trigger.

Also, to reiterate another point I made in that thread:

Wait until we all running around with ASCR

only need lvl 1 skill to unlock the aur lvl 4 ASCR , the SCR skill itself is basically no factor in it's use whatever.. and is already stronger and more accurate than any AR we got.

Only a few more matches and I will have mine trained to lvl 4 and no more using the aur version. It will be all I run now since my AR seems to be overpopulating and you want to die by something else

I don't see an issue with that. That weapon is more accurate, but can overheat if you fire it too long, and has a different damage profile over range.

Basically, I see ARs in the following way:

All ARs get an absolute range of 250m, just like the Gallente one.

All ARs have a different curve for how much their damage output declines toward that range, but also differences in dispersion based on weapon mechanics.

The Gallente AR has the most dispersion with sustained fire, and the highest damage falloff, in exchange for having higher DPS at closer range than any of the other ARs.

On the opposite side, the Caldari Rail Rifle has the lowest damage with very low dispersion and a low rate of fire, but has the least falloff out to 250m.

The other ARs can be set up to fit in between based on their own roles.

dude if you overheat an ASCR.. something is seriously wrong