Thank you. I thought I was going to get a lot of "we already know this."

Lol active heat sink + PRO level turret = one dead, bad fit tank.

Buffer fit is generally a good idea(you can max out Mad to have 12.4HP), but we have Armor Repair bug now, and it is better to have Heavy AR with triple hardeners those days .

small booster and light repairs? good luck in a battle vs a well fitted tank

Im sure your fit works quite well vs infantry, but as was said already that will not last vs tanks with damage mods, proto turrets and heatsinks. although if you can watch out for other tanks and just recall you might be ok.

I'm actually not sure if anyone uses these effectively...

using cover, your teammates, and movement are all good tips.

But kill everyone.... every proto suit, and every freshly spawned meat sack. enrage every player you can, Have no mercy
they would not show you the same courtesy

Here are some tanking tips that may help. These re some things that I have notices when I have gone tanking.

My fit was a Madrugar with Heavy Supplemental Shield Extender and a converse light shield booster for the high powered.
For the low powered I have 180mm nanofiber armor plates, a light IGL armor repairer, and PG upgradesX2
My turrets were all standard Blasters
Now here, my HP totaled around 10,000, and this is all standard. You can edit this to your liking.

The reason I put Shields on a Maddy was because nobody would expect it. People can throw AV Andes at it and wonder why it isn't even scratching my shields, the only downside is that for the extra armor, I had to sacrifice a heavy armor repper. This means you have to be on alert for forge gunners, and once you start taking damage head to cover. Now I know this may not work for some people, this is just what worked for me. Since came up with this tank, I have not lost any (maybe one) in 5 matches. This fit costs a little over 400,000 ISK, so you can break even or make a profit if you are careful. Now, I will move on to the tips.

Tip #1: You are not invincible!

Your tank is similar to a heavy, fat, slow, and an easy target that can pack a punch. Now just like a heavy, you need to be smart, don't charge into a bad situation. You are most likely going to end up dead without support.

Tip #2: Be careful who you kill

This sounds odd, but if you kill a guy with a nice, expensive, proto suit, he may want revenge. Also, if you kill someone near theair spawn point/CRU/objective, and you're still there, he will probably spawn in with an AV fit.

Tip #3: Use cover and know when to retreat

This is a little self explanatory. If you see swarms or the glow of a forge gun, move behind cover where you can't get hit. I know this can be frustrating, but it can save you a tank.

Tip #4: Keep moving

This makes it a little more difficult for forge gunners at range to hit you. This also reduces the chance for being hit multiple times by the same person. Now there may be that one forge gunner that is at the best place that can hit almost anywhere on the map, but if that is the case, try to kill him and then retreat to safety.

Tip #5: Timing is key

This is one of the most key ingredients to some good tanking. Don't call a tank once you spawn in for the first time. Observe what kind of AV the enemy has. If it is low tier, go for it. If it is proto, don't risk it. Also, call in a tank when there is a lot of heated infantry battle. Lend your team a helping hand, also, you won't sustain as much damage because the battle is going on with the infantry. Tanks are supposed to be a support role apparently, so use it that way.

I know tankers have it tough, I can't imagine what losing a Million and a half ISK tank would be like, but please acknowledge these tips, and I know a few you guys already know.

These are just my two cents. Thank you.

Every single tanker needs to follow those tips
Most of them got spoiled by beta tanks though and never really learned how to drive so we have an odd situation where the newer tank drivers are better behind the wheel than those driving for a long time

Would you like to have a duel and find out? Of all you new tankers, I've only met one this entire time that could outsmart me and kill me every single time. The other countless tank scrubs were eaten alive due to stupid mistakes (not counting the ones with bad gear bc that's too easy)

Ya'll think you're so good bc none of you play PC and have not come across the A-list tankers; we are in the best corps for a reason. Want a good tank battle? Fight Ancient Exiles, Outer Heaven, Internal Error, Red Star, or Team Players....or Murder Cakes of Doom. You will find all the best tankers in one of those corps...except a few randoms in Cronos (Adri Gac, Jason Pearson)

To the OP: Your fit sucks and if you understood why, I would respect you at least a little bit because you have not taken your tank to Excel and found out exactly how effective it is- if you did, you wouldn't use it.

Would you like to have a duel and find out? Of all you new tankers, I've only met one this entire time that could outsmart me and kill me every single time. The other countless tank scrubs were eaten alive due to stupid mistakes (not counting the ones with bad gear bc that's too easy)

Ya'll think you're so good bc none of you play PC and have not come across the A-list tankers; we are in the best corps for a reason. Want a good tank battle? Fight Ancient Exiles, Outer Heaven, Internal Error, Red Star, or Team Players....or Murder Cakes of Doom. You will find all the best tankers in one of those corps...except a few randoms in Cronos (Adri Gac, Jason Pearson)

To the OP: Your fit sucks and if you understood why, I would respect you at least a little bit because you have not taken your tank to Excel and found out exactly how effective it is- if you did, you wouldn't use it.

Would you like to have a duel and find out? Of all you new tankers, I've only met one this entire time that could outsmart me and kill me every single time. The other countless tank scrubs were eaten alive due to stupid mistakes (not counting the ones with bad gear bc that's too easy)

Ya'll think you're so good bc none of you play PC and have not come across the A-list tankers; we are in the best corps for a reason. Want a good tank battle? Fight Ancient Exiles, Outer Heaven, Internal Error, Red Star, or Team Players....or Murder Cakes of Doom. You will find all the best tankers in one of those corps...except a few randoms in Cronos (Adri Gac, Jason Pearson)

To the OP: Your fit sucks and if you understood why, I would respect you at least a little bit because you have not taken your tank to Excel and found out exactly how effective it is- if you did, you wouldn't use it.

Outer.Heaven now? tisk tisk

P.S. Honestly Char, you are not that good.

Ive seen you though, you hide behind the redline all damn day and I know for a fact Ive been able to completely lock you down and turn you into a zero contributing member of your team with just a swarm launcher
QQ more O Dell, its the only thing you are good at

Never mind that fake psychic guy, biggest douche in the universe should go to you.

We've all come across you "A" list tankers. Normally blowing each other, I mean each others trumpets here on the forums.

Name a tanker that has ever taken me one on one and beat me other than Hotch in Chromosome- can't be done....except for one random guy a month ago and props to him. Don't know why he isn't in a better corp.

I follow the good infantry. It's that simple...Earl did the same.

We are the smallest sub-community in Dust. There is a reason we all know eachother.

Good job. You have prototype AV and I have STD defenses. You are no better than someone with a Flaylock beating on a gallente standard suit. Wait till we get proto tanks and watch the QQs flow like tears.

Would you like to have a duel and find out? Of all you new tankers, I've only met one this entire time that could outsmart me and kill me every single time. The other countless tank scrubs were eaten alive due to stupid mistakes (not counting the ones with bad gear bc that's too easy)

Ya'll think you're so good bc none of you play PC and have not come across the A-list tankers; we are in the best corps for a reason. Want a good tank battle? Fight Ancient Exiles, Outer Heaven, Internal Error, Red Star, or Team Players....or Murder Cakes of Doom. You will find all the best tankers in one of those corps...except a few randoms in Cronos (Adri Gac, Jason Pearson)

To the OP: Your fit sucks and if you understood why, I would respect you at least a little bit because you have not taken your tank to Excel and found out exactly how effective it is- if you did, you wouldn't use it.

here is how you become considered a top tanker in three easy steps.
step 1: build an armor tank with a railgun
step 2: engage in very simple tank fights in which you are either situated on a hill or you simply peek and shoot.
step 3: have a k/d of roughly 5 and lower.

now you look like the self proclaimed top tankers in dust.
I forgot about step 4: while on forums preform oral sex to current top tankers.

You forgot step 5 cry for all AV to be nerfed into uselessness

You forgot step 5 cry for all AV to be nerfed into uselessness

Things that are wrong:


1) shields on maddy = stupid
2) no heat sink = stupid
3) nanofiber 180's are pointless. drop that, use the poly ****. if it's proto cannon, use 2 pg upgrades, if its standard, use 1 and then use 2 hardeners
4) no hardenener = epic fail


Relearn how to tank and come back when you know something.

Good thing you mentioned murder cakes.

All new tankers should run the ops fit if they want to go broke. Or spend the rest of the match in cover behind the redline.

Would you like to have a duel and find out? Of all you new tankers, I've only met one this entire time that could outsmart me and kill me every single time. The other countless tank scrubs were eaten alive due to stupid mistakes (not counting the ones with bad gear bc that's too easy)

Ya'll think you're so good bc none of you play PC and have not come across the A-list tankers; we are in the best corps for a reason. Want a good tank battle? Fight Ancient Exiles, Outer Heaven, Internal Error, Red Star, or Team Players....or Murder Cakes of Doom. You will find all the best tankers in one of those corps...except a few randoms in Cronos (Adri Gac, Jason Pearson)

To the OP: Your fit sucks and if you understood why, I would respect you at least a little bit because you have not taken your tank to Excel and found out exactly how effective it is- if you did, you wouldn't use it.

I believe I'm the tanker you're looking for, considering you sent me a love letter were you stated "10/10. Outstanding." then going on to call me a "land shark tear drinker." and asked to pay for my tank?

I laughed a lil, not going to lie. Never in my life had I been called a "land shark tear drinker." Kinda made my day

I am a casual player with only 7 million sp. I can't afford to spec into higher mods. I use what I have. All you guys that were spoonfed information from big corps wonder why scrubs and bluedots suck. Its because they are told what is right and aren't allowed to do anything that they want. Also, people instead of trying to help others try to put them down in saying you suck. Tankers are almost always redliners. I wanted to be different. People like to destroy anything that they can't get a grasp on. They think new is bad. I will edit my tank fit with the information that I have collected and create a better fit. Thank you guy for positive and negative feedback.

Good tips for new tankers. Wish more people had this kind of common sense.

That is such a bad tank fit, you would get instantly killed by any proper fitted tank


Tip #2: Be careful who you kill - Wrong, kill everyone you see if you can, if they have AV kill them quick or gtfo

Tip #3: Use cover and know when to retreat - Cover lol, OPswarms ignore that since they consistantly follow you around cover and ignore it altogether

Name a tanker that has ever taken me one on one and beat me other than Hotch in Chromosome- can't be done....except for one random guy a month ago and props to him. Don't know why he isn't in a better corp.

I follow the good infantry. It's that simple...Earl did the same.

After reading this thread and enjoing my popcorn (any one elses want some) all I can say is the op has some good tips but their fit is diabolical and will melt as soon as any tanker or av sees them. No one in their right mind hybrid tanks for good reasons.

1 galente are armour tank specilists

2 caldari are shield tankers.

3 its a stupod idea to put shield booster on a maddy as it would be stupid to put armour reps on a gunlogi.

All I can say now is if you want sone real advice see voidechos guide as it is endorsed by many of us vet tankers.

I do not agree with you on #2, only speaking from my view as infantry. I will respawn in my AV suits if I am shot down by tanks, I am no very good at AV, but others are much better. And running in a cheap tank with low resistance I agree that it is better to keep a low profile and acknowledge that some players could spawn with proto AV that would destroy my cheap tank in no time. Better to let them live with their AR suits than riscing them respawning with proto AV.

No, I was crewing with you last night, around 2:30 eastern. You were the dude who was playing Godzilla with the swarm launchers. And I did drop a million in your account, because it was a ****-ing wild ride! Still can't believe those peons eventually got you, because you were starting to look indestructible.

No, The outer Haven guy was someone I went against in my own tank. My poor tank. It was learning experience, I guess? I learned how much I hate getting blown up by other tanks?

O'Dell vs my compressed particle cannon...

O'Dell= 3 shot pile of ashes in 5 seconds

After reading this thread and enjoing my popcorn (any one elses want some) all I can say is the op has some good tips but their fit is diabolical and will melt as soon as any tanker or av sees them. No one in their right mind hybrid tanks for good reasons.

1 galente are armour tank specilists

2 caldari are shield tankers.

3 its a stupod idea to put shield extenders on a maddy as it would be stupid to put armour reps on a gunlogi.

All I can say now is if you want sone real advice see voidechos guide as it is endorsed by many of us vet tankers.