Thank you. I thought I was going to get a lot of "we already know this."

Lol active heat sink + PRO level turret = one dead, bad fit tank.

Buffer fit is generally a good idea(you can max out Mad to have 12.4HP), but we have Armor Repair bug now, and it is better to have Heavy AR with triple hardeners those days .

small booster and light repairs? good luck in a battle vs a well fitted tank

Im sure your fit works quite well vs infantry, but as was said already that will not last vs tanks with damage mods, proto turrets and heatsinks. although if you can watch out for other tanks and just recall you might be ok.

I'm actually not sure if anyone uses these effectively...

using cover, your teammates, and movement are all good tips.

But kill everyone.... every proto suit, and every freshly spawned meat sack. enrage every player you can, Have no mercy
they would not show you the same courtesy

Here are some tanking tips that may help. These re some things that I have notices when I have gone tanking.

My fit was a Madrugar with Heavy Supplemental Shield Extender and a converse light shield booster for the high powered.
For the low powered I have 180mm nanofiber armor plates, a light IGL armor repairer, and PG upgradesX2
My turrets were all standard Blasters
Now here, my HP totaled around 10,000, and this is all standard. You can edit this to your liking.

The reason I put Shields on a Maddy was because nobody would expect it. People can throw AV Andes at it and wonder why it isn't even scratching my shields, the only downside is that for the extra armor, I had to sacrifice a heavy armor repper. This means you have to be on alert for forge gunners, and once you start taking damage head to cover. Now I know this may not work for some people, this is just what worked for me. Since came up with this tank, I have not lost any (maybe one) in 5 matches. This fit costs a little over 400,000 ISK, so you can break even or make a profit if you are careful. Now, I will move on to the tips.

Tip #1: You are not invincible!

Your tank is similar to a heavy, fat, slow, and an easy target that can pack a punch. Now just like a heavy, you need to be smart, don't charge into a bad situation. You are most likely going to end up dead without support.

Tip #2: Be careful who you kill

This sounds odd, but if you kill a guy with a nice, expensive, proto suit, he may want revenge. Also, if you kill someone near theair spawn point/CRU/objective, and you're still there, he will probably spawn in with an AV fit.

Tip #3: Use cover and know when to retreat

This is a little self explanatory. If you see swarms or the glow of a forge gun, move behind cover where you can't get hit. I know this can be frustrating, but it can save you a tank.

Tip #4: Keep moving

This makes it a little more difficult for forge gunners at range to hit you. This also reduces the chance for being hit multiple times by the same person. Now there may be that one forge gunner that is at the best place that can hit almost anywhere on the map, but if that is the case, try to kill him and then retreat to safety.

Tip #5: Timing is key

This is one of the most key ingredients to some good tanking. Don't call a tank once you spawn in for the first time. Observe what kind of AV the enemy has. If it is low tier, go for it. If it is proto, don't risk it. Also, call in a tank when there is a lot of heated infantry battle. Lend your team a helping hand, also, you won't sustain as much damage because the battle is going on with the infantry. Tanks are supposed to be a support role apparently, so use it that way.

I know tankers have it tough, I can't imagine what losing a Million and a half ISK tank would be like, but please acknowledge these tips, and I know a few you guys already know.

These are just my two cents. Thank you.

Every single tanker needs to follow those tips
Most of them got spoiled by beta tanks though and never really learned how to drive so we have an odd situation where the newer tank drivers are better behind the wheel than those driving for a long time

Would you like to have a duel and find out? Of all you new tankers, I've only met one this entire time that could outsmart me and kill me every single time. The other countless tank scrubs were eaten alive due to stupid mistakes (not counting the ones with bad gear bc that's too easy)

Ya'll think you're so good bc none of you play PC and have not come across the A-list tankers; we are in the best corps for a reason. Want a good tank battle? Fight Ancient Exiles, Outer Heaven, Internal Error, Red Star, or Team Players....or Murder Cakes of Doom. You will find all the best tankers in one of those corps...except a few randoms in Cronos (Adri Gac, Jason Pearson)

To the OP: Your fit sucks and if you understood why, I would respect you at least a little bit because you have not taken your tank to Excel and found out exactly how effective it is- if you did, you wouldn't use it.

Would you like to have a duel and find out? Of all you new tankers, I've only met one this entire time that could outsmart me and kill me every single time. The other countless tank scrubs were eaten alive due to stupid mistakes (not counting the ones with bad gear bc that's too easy)

Ya'll think you're so good bc none of you play PC and have not come across the A-list tankers; we are in the best corps for a reason. Want a good tank battle? Fight Ancient Exiles, Outer Heaven, Internal Error, Red Star, or Team Players....or Murder Cakes of Doom. You will find all the best tankers in one of those corps...except a few randoms in Cronos (Adri Gac, Jason Pearson)

To the OP: Your fit sucks and if you understood why, I would respect you at least a little bit because you have not taken your tank to Excel and found out exactly how effective it is- if you did, you wouldn't use it.

Would you like to have a duel and find out? Of all you new tankers, I've only met one this entire time that could outsmart me and kill me every single time. The other countless tank scrubs were eaten alive due to stupid mistakes (not counting the ones with bad gear bc that's too easy)

Ya'll think you're so good bc none of you play PC and have not come across the A-list tankers; we are in the best corps for a reason. Want a good tank battle? Fight Ancient Exiles, Outer Heaven, Internal Error, Red Star, or Team Players....or Murder Cakes of Doom. You will find all the best tankers in one of those corps...except a few randoms in Cronos (Adri Gac, Jason Pearson)

To the OP: Your fit sucks and if you understood why, I would respect you at least a little bit because you have not taken your tank to Excel and found out exactly how effective it is- if you did, you wouldn't use it.

Outer.Heaven now? tisk tisk

P.S. Honestly Char, you are not that good.

Ive seen you though, you hide behind the redline all damn day and I know for a fact Ive been able to completely lock you down and turn you into a zero contributing member of your team with just a swarm launcher
QQ more O Dell, its the only thing you are good at

Never mind that fake psychic guy, biggest douche in the universe should go to you.

We've all come across you "A" list tankers. Normally blowing each other, I mean each others trumpets here on the forums.

Name a tanker that has ever taken me one on one and beat me other than Hotch in Chromosome- can't be done....except for one random guy a month ago and props to him. Don't know why he isn't in a better corp.

I follow the good infantry. It's that simple...Earl did the same.

We are the smallest sub-community in Dust. There is a reason we all know eachother.

Good job. You have prototype AV and I have STD defenses. You are no better than someone with a Flaylock beating on a gallente standard suit. Wait till we get proto tanks and watch the QQs flow like tears.

Would you like to have a duel and find out? Of all you new tankers, I've only met one this entire time that could outsmart me and kill me every single time. The other countless tank scrubs were eaten alive due to stupid mistakes (not counting the ones with bad gear bc that's too easy)

Ya'll think you're so good bc none of you play PC and have not come across the A-list tankers; we are in the best corps for a reason. Want a good tank battle? Fight Ancient Exiles, Outer Heaven, Internal Error, Red Star, or Team Players....or Murder Cakes of Doom. You will find all the best tankers in one of those corps...except a few randoms in Cronos (Adri Gac, Jason Pearson)

To the OP: Your fit sucks and if you understood why, I would respect you at least a little bit because you have not taken your tank to Excel and found out exactly how effective it is- if you did, you wouldn't use it.