um.. when this happen? I was on with my ALT last night, to help an old clan mate who wanted to see what dust was about. And we had skirmish. And really? lavs hit and run in the academy? why the hell for?! No proto's in there! lol

I'm guessing that it was intended to lengthen time in the academy by reducing the amount of wp available in early matches. It gives new players more time to adjust to the core mechanics, even if it does kind of screw them tactically. Maybe it's just a stop gao measure?

I for one think they need to play something besides Ambush, in order to have any idea what's going on.

Might wanna default the mics to 'on' as well. = )

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Remember: IamI3rian told ya
Do you get to the cloud district very often?

And I may be wrong but I think team chat is automatically turned on when you join a battle as long as you have not activated any other chat and have chat turned on.

I tried Academy today for hte first time today and it is no way to get noobs started. Where's the tutorial on how to play and the training for the other modes?

For crying out loud, I saw people calling in tanks and dominating with them because no one knew how to take them down.


PS: It is also WAY TOO SHORT. I literally completed Academy in less than 2 hours. I was like "WHAT?! That's it?!".

By communicate do you mean only put it in the patch notes that you get after you download the update? Because I just quickly tried to look for 1.3 patch notes and only saw dropsuit changes.

That makes sense but it just seems like a back assward way of doing it. I think they should've just raised the WP requirement to 20k WP.

As an extremely new player (I've been playing for a day now) i'm kinda disappointed with the game so far. I used to play MAG, so I can kinda see what the overall idea of the more advanced game modes may be, and i'm excited still for that. Unfortunately, I've only been able to get into a hand full of skirmish maps, other than that, its been all Ambush (Of the 8v8 variety. I played I think 3 or 4 of the 16v16 Ambush last night before it was, I guess, done away with). You know, I log in, and it says there is 60,000+ people on the server. I go to the battle finder, and I can choose between the single Battle Academy match that's always the same map, and that's it, unless there is a battle under the mercenary tab, which only seems to happen once every few minutes or so, and even if it says there are spaces available, it almost always tells me there is no more room. But that's all fine and good I thought, I gotta learn the ropes at some point, i'll do this Battle Academy thing and get some SP and get a few upgrades and be ready for the actual game. Wrong. More often than not, Battle Academy to a new player seems to be the equivalent of Sandy Hook Elementary to a small child, an unstoppable, brutal assault. It's bad enough when the opposing team has a hand full of players who are fairly top end, but it gets worse when you see (what appears to me to be) a group of veteran players who regularly play together using high end equipment and high end strategy to just mud hole stomp the opposing team of noobs. Now, i'm not saying change anything, cause I have no idea what changes to recommend. I've basically realized that i'm looking at a good long time of getting the ever loving dog **** kicked out of me time and time and time and time again, until I've managed to cobble together enough SP to start getting my head above water. Which is all fine and good, if that's the way its gotta be that's the way its gotta be. I've also been extremely disappointed by the in game community. After a particularly savage beating in an Ambush match (I think I was like 0/17) I figured i'd try and join a Corp. I bounced around to a few Corps to find the same thing each time- Promises of an active Corp friendly to beginners dashed by a dead Corp chat and absolutely no help or interaction what so ever. If i'm joining a Corp I wanna fight with them, not join so I can login to a dead chat room while getting destroyed playing Call of Duty (I mean 8v8 Ambush) by myself. At this point I've figured screw it, from what ive seen i'm nowhere near being effective enough (equipment wise) for a seriously active Corp to want me, so i'll just try and get by on my own for now. And I don't dare ask any questions in the Match Lobby or General Chat. I've got thick skin and all, but the thought of being verbally accosted by someone who is probably 15 years old over my lack of knowledge of a game I've played for a day is not an appealing one. All in all, the negatives I've seen aren't enough yet to turn ME off from the game, but i'm sure for many others its been way to much to deal with.

2 steps forward, 20 steps back.
The 514 Shuffle.

Tranquility says theres like 20,000+ right now, and it said 40,000+ when I was playing earlier today

As an extremely new player (I've been playing for a day now) i'm kinda disappointed with the game so far. I used to play MAG, so I can kinda see what the overall idea of the more advanced game modes may be, and i'm excited still for that. Unfortunately, I've only been able to get into a hand full of skirmish maps, other than that, its been all Ambush (Of the 8v8 variety. I played I think 3 or 4 of the 16v16 Ambush last night before it was, I guess, done away with). You know, I log in, and it says there is 60,000+ people on the server. I go to the battle finder, and I can choose between the single Battle Academy match that's always the same map, and that's it, unless there is a battle under the mercenary tab, which only seems to happen once every few minutes or so, and even if it says there are spaces available, it almost always tells me there is no more room. But that's all fine and good I thought, I gotta learn the ropes at some point, i'll do this Battle Academy thing and get some SP and get a few upgrades and be ready for the actual game. Wrong. More often than not, Battle Academy to a new player seems to be the equivalent of Sandy Hook Elementary to a small child, an unstoppable, brutal assault. It's bad enough when the opposing team has a hand full of players who are fairly top end, but it gets worse when you see (what appears to me to be) a group of veteran players who regularly play together using high end equipment and high end strategy to just mud hole stomp the opposing team of noobs. Now, i'm not saying change anything, cause I have no idea what changes to recommend. I've basically realized that i'm looking at a good long time of getting the ever loving dog **** kicked out of me time and time and time and time again, until I've managed to cobble together enough SP to start getting my head above water. Which is all fine and good, if that's the way its gotta be that's the way its gotta be. I've also been extremely disappointed by the in game community. After a particularly savage beating in an Ambush match (I think I was like 0/17) I figured i'd try and join a Corp. I bounced around to a few Corps to find the same thing each time- Promises of an active Corp friendly to beginners dashed by a dead Corp chat and absolutely no help or interaction what so ever. If i'm joining a Corp I wanna fight with them, not join so I can login to a dead chat room while getting destroyed playing Call of Duty (I mean 8v8 Ambush) by myself. At this point I've figured screw it, from what ive seen i'm nowhere near being effective enough (equipment wise) for a seriously active Corp to want me, so i'll just try and get by on my own for now. And I don't dare ask any questions in the Match Lobby or General Chat. I've got thick skin and all, but the thought of being verbally accosted by someone who is probably 15 years old over my lack of knowledge of a game I've played for a day is not an appealing one. All in all, the negatives I've seen aren't enough yet to turn ME off from the game, but i'm sure for many others its been way to much to deal with.

As an extremely new player (I've been playing for a day now) i'm kinda disappointed with the game so far. I used to play MAG, so I can kinda see what the overall idea of the more advanced game modes may be, and i'm excited still for that. Unfortunately, I've only been able to get into a hand full of skirmish maps, other than that, its been all Ambush (Of the 8v8 variety. I played I think 3 or 4 of the 16v16 Ambush last night before it was, I guess, done away with). You know, I log in, and it says there is 60,000+ people on the server. I go to the battle finder, and I can choose between the single Battle Academy match that's always the same map, and that's it, unless there is a battle under the mercenary tab, which only seems to happen once every few minutes or so, and even if it says there are spaces available, it almost always tells me there is no more room. But that's all fine and good I thought, I gotta learn the ropes at some point, i'll do this Battle Academy thing and get some SP and get a few upgrades and be ready for the actual game. Wrong. More often than not, Battle Academy to a new player seems to be the equivalent of Sandy Hook Elementary to a small child, an unstoppable, brutal assault. It's bad enough when the opposing team has a hand full of players who are fairly top end, but it gets worse when you see (what appears to me to be) a group of veteran players who regularly play together using high end equipment and high end strategy to just mud hole stomp the opposing team of noobs. Now, i'm not saying change anything, cause I have no idea what changes to recommend. I've basically realized that i'm looking at a good long time of getting the ever loving dog **** kicked out of me time and time and time and time again, until I've managed to cobble together enough SP to start getting my head above water. Which is all fine and good, if that's the way its gotta be that's the way its gotta be. I've also been extremely disappointed by the in game community. After a particularly savage beating in an Ambush match (I think I was like 0/17) I figured i'd try and join a Corp. I bounced around to a few Corps to find the same thing each time- Promises of an active Corp friendly to beginners dashed by a dead Corp chat and absolutely no help or interaction what so ever. If i'm joining a Corp I wanna fight with them, not join so I can login to a dead chat room while getting destroyed playing Call of Duty (I mean 8v8 Ambush) by myself. At this point I've figured screw it, from what ive seen i'm nowhere near being effective enough (equipment wise) for a seriously active Corp to want me, so i'll just try and get by on my own for now. And I don't dare ask any questions in the Match Lobby or General Chat. I've got thick skin and all, but the thought of being verbally accosted by someone who is probably 15 years old over my lack of knowledge of a game I've played for a day is not an appealing one. All in all, the negatives I've seen aren't enough yet to turn ME off from the game, but i'm sure for many others its been way to much to deal with.

Hopeffuly CCP is listening because your resident CPM does NOT think this is an issue and the majority of your opinions are invalid

Hopeffuly CCP is listening because your resident CPM does NOT think this is an issue and the majority of your opinions are invalid

Battle academy already was barely sufficient as a training grounds for the new players, it hardly prepared them for the real games. For those of you who don't know what I'm talking about CCP changed battle academy so that it is the same map every time, it's only ambush, there are less clones than the normal ambush games, and the maps have been made smaller by moving the redline closer. CCP I really hope that you did this because you guys have something else in the works because new players are the only hope this game has of surviving.

Hopeffuly CCP is listening because your resident CPM does NOT think this is an issue and the majority of your opinions are invalid

What?

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1145596#post1145596

* Hotfix for Battle Academy mode: Switching the Academy game mode to 32 player Domination. Reducing the total War Points needed to leave the Academy to 400 war points. More details to come from CCP Greyscale on this specific change very soon.


I'm assuming "400 war points" is a typo. What was it before? I'm so surprised I'm not even sure this is the same thing we're talking about in this thread?