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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
2251
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:12:00 -
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Yanno - I went and tried out Planetside 2 for three days because people kept acting like it's the holy grail of FPS games. It has it's kicks, sure but it's nothing spectacular. There are things it does right and things it does wrong.
This is about the 8000000th thread I've started regarding this problem but the fact that it's still a problem is amazing to me.
LAVs.
It took -THREE WEEKS- to Hotfix the Duvolle Tactical Assault Rifle, so why is it that we're experimenting with collision detection (not the issue with the things in the first place) for 1.4 which is scheduled to come out in August? Here's the issue right here:
Quote:Updated all HAV and LAV HP Values (please post your feedback here):STD & Militia HAVs - 25% more HP, Enforcer HAVs and Militia LAVs - 60% more HP, STD & Scout LAVs - 50% more HP, Charybdis Logistics LAV - 70% more HP, Limbus Logistics LAV - 40% more HP
You can hot-fix the problem in but you can't hot-fix it out, though I suspect it's probably because one or more members on the CPM are playing the bobble head and ignoring them being an issue - but I'm sure one look at the data that CCP has recorded over their use will show an obvious peak.
Fixing a 'collision bug' isn't going to solve the issue in that -they are too hard to kill-. Assuming the AV grenade can even catch up with them (9/10 they just explode behind the LAV and do no damage) it still takes more than one, even at the Prototype level.
So yeah, expect some more of these threads as I watch the map from now on until 1.4 is released. Because there will be more...
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Michael Arck
sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
421
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:15:00 -
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You start off reading the thread like uh huh, then its gets to "okay" and then its just rockets into the WTF category within nanoseconds.
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Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
298
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:15:00 -
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Why are you here and how much did you pay for this game? |
Allah's Snackbar
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
453
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:16:00 -
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Soon you will also finish AFKing and then the desire will all subside.
You will be then cured of feelings of "potential". |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Auxiliaries
2246
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:19:00 -
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Give it a rest.
Vehicles and AV need a complete rebalance, not a little hotfix. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3375
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:19:00 -
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Please have the decency to AFK on the oceanic servers like everyone else. |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
829
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:19:00 -
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Sniping is very enjoyable.. specially killing Protobears... why AFK when you can collect Pubstomper tears instead ? |
THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Pure Innocence. EoN.
139
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:21:00 -
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Takes 6 lai dai packed av grenades to kill a fully passive damage resisted charybdis. I got to test it on an abandoned charybdis, before the owner realised i was popping his ride, he shot at me after it was gone and i drove away in my blood raiders saga.
Seriously CCP? 6 proto packed AV nades to kill a charybdis, without even an active hardener.
And yet armor tanks go down usually in 3-5 nades.
Tanks. |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
140
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:21:00 -
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the man is making a point that there is an issue with the game and you guys get on here trolling. no wonder ccp cant get it right they listen to the ******** trolls in this forum instead of taking points from the actual players like aeon and many others who quit playing this game because of ccps failure to fix and or balance things properly. i sware they need to have a day care part in the forums for kids with lack of attention. aeon i support you 100% and people are on the same page just not the idiots on here. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
2252
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:23:00 -
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Allah's Snackbar wrote:Soon you will also finish AFKing and then the desire will all subside.
You will be then cured of feelings of "potential".
Yeah, I'm afraid of that because I actually am the guy who keeps a lot of the players in my particular circle from quitting by being active on the forums and passing along information that gives them hope.
But, fact remains that this LAV issue was caused by a change no-one asked for and has yet to be fixed. Beyond that, we have to wait another -MONTH- for it to be even remotely fixed and considering they're not going into detail on what is being done to "balance" AV vs Vehicles in 1.4 my hopes aren't exactly high.
With Flaylocks and Contact Grenades getting a balance pass the true power of the LAV is going to be readily known to the average player, such is the nature of FPS games. The potential of a tool in the game isn't usually fully realized until months after it's been introduced into the game and as more and more people keep using this excuse....:
"I used it because the other team used it"
We're going to see a pandemic of these damned things. The distance between objectives is too large in most maps for a game of 'the floor is lava' and considering most of the time the driver is a Heavy fitted with at least SOME form of AV... I'm sure you see where this is going.
Here's the advice they'll often give you:
"HAV with Scattered Blaster"
That's just bait. The second you call in a tank, if they can't run you down they'll just jump out and destroy it with their own AV options. Provided you DO kill the LAV (rarely occurs) there is absolutely nothing stopping them from calling it in again.
So, yeah, still amazed this isn't "hotfixed" yet. |
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Viktor Zokas
187.
99
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:24:00 -
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Good bye, no one is gonna miss you. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
2252
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:26:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Give it a rest.
Vehicles and AV need a complete rebalance, not a little hotfix.
You're completely missing the point Jason - and I know that's because you're a vehicle aficionado. You need to look at the larger picture of things and what is going to happen after tomorrow's downtime when Flaylocks/Contacts/Caldari Logi are rebalanced and where things are going to go from there.
30 Days of nothing but BPO LAVs and LLAVs dominating the field.
Put it together man. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
2252
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:27:00 -
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Viktor Zokas wrote:Good bye, no one is gonna miss you.
I'll remember that the next PC match you guys have, Viktor |
Viktor Zokas
187.
99
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:28:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Viktor Zokas wrote:Good bye, no one is gonna miss you. I'll remember that the next PC match you guys have, Viktor
You won't ever see me in PC, you're afk'ing. |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
829
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:29:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Give it a rest.
Vehicles and AV need a complete rebalance, not a little hotfix. You're completely missing the point Jason - and I know that's because you're a vehicle aficionado. You need to look at the larger picture of things and what is going to happen after tomorrow's downtime when Flaylocks/Contacts/Caldari Logi are rebalanced and where things are going to go from there. 30 Days of nothing but BPO LAVs and LLAVs dominating the field. Put it together man.
I already anticipated this..THAT is why i investing SP in SNIPING. Seriously... give it a try, is actually allot of FUN. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
2253
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:31:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Give it a rest.
Vehicles and AV need a complete rebalance, not a little hotfix. You're completely missing the point Jason - and I know that's because you're a vehicle aficionado. You need to look at the larger picture of things and what is going to happen after tomorrow's downtime when Flaylocks/Contacts/Caldari Logi are rebalanced and where things are going to go from there. 30 Days of nothing but BPO LAVs and LLAVs dominating the field. Put it together man. I already anticipated this..THAT is why i investing SP in SNIPING. Seriously... give it a try, is actually allot of FUN.
I've actually got a really nice sniping suit that I use for when I roll with my corporation/alliances buddies and I'm actually a pretty good shot with the Genesis. But, sniping isn't what I -want- to do in Dust 514 and it most certainly shouldn't be what I -have- to do.... |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
140
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:31:00 -
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Viktor Zokas wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Viktor Zokas wrote:Good bye, no one is gonna miss you. I'll remember that the next PC match you guys have, Viktor You won't ever see me in PC, you're afk'ing.
u will miss him dont lie.
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
42
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:34:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:the man is making a point that there is an issue with the game and you guys get on here trolling. no wonder ccp cant get it right they listen to the ******** trolls in this forum instead of taking points from the actual players like aeon and many others who quit playing this game because of ccps failure to fix and or balance things properly. i sware they need to have a day care part in the forums for kids with lack of attention. aeon i support you 100% and people are on the same page just not the idiots on here.
So CCP should listen to quitters who arnt even committed enough to actually quit. Because building a game off the advice of people who take their ball and hide in the MCC when the game doesn't fall in line with their own personal vision is really going to work out well for CCP. Just because someone doesn't like something doesn't make them right. |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
829
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:35:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Give it a rest.
Vehicles and AV need a complete rebalance, not a little hotfix. You're completely missing the point Jason - and I know that's because you're a vehicle aficionado. You need to look at the larger picture of things and what is going to happen after tomorrow's downtime when Flaylocks/Contacts/Caldari Logi are rebalanced and where things are going to go from there. 30 Days of nothing but BPO LAVs and LLAVs dominating the field. Put it together man. I already anticipated this..THAT is why i investing SP in SNIPING. Seriously... give it a try, is actually allot of FUN. I've actually got a really nice sniping suit that I use for when I roll with my corporation/alliances buddies and I'm actually a pretty good shot with the Genesis. But, sniping isn't what I -want- to do in Dust 514 and it most certainly shouldn't be what I -have- to do....
I don't particularly enjoy Sniping neither ... but is allot more fun than AFKing... or being Pubstomp ... |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
2255
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:39:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:the man is making a point that there is an issue with the game and you guys get on here trolling. no wonder ccp cant get it right they listen to the ******** trolls in this forum instead of taking points from the actual players like aeon and many others who quit playing this game because of ccps failure to fix and or balance things properly. i sware they need to have a day care part in the forums for kids with lack of attention. aeon i support you 100% and people are on the same page just not the idiots on here. So CCP should listen to quitters who arnt even committed enough to actually quit. Because building a game off the advice of people who take their ball and hide in the MCC when the game doesn't fall in line with their own personal vision is really going to work out well for CCP. Just because someone doesn't like something doesn't make them right.
No, see - I'm doing what any Eve player would do and doing what benefits -ME- in the long run. I don't have to participate in order to get my SP, at least until they implement an AFK counter-measure but even then I, like everyone in this game, will find a way around that.
Because it will definitely help having an extra 285,000 SP a week (boosted).
However, it's not worth -PLAYING- the game when there are obvious imbalances. You can say "quitter" all you want but there are certain things that are game design and there are certain things that a player is responsible for. I am responsible for making a decision that involves me dying and losing ISK. I am NOT responsible for a 27,000 ISK vehicle being harder to kill than an HAV.
Any idiot could look at this and see that it is a problem and there have been a great deal of people who have seen it - the fact that CCP had to look into the avenue of fixing collision (however silly their path of doing so may be) goes to show that there is some unintentional abuse of what they're supposed to be used for.
But you know - half way through explaining this I figure you're just enough of a sheep as to not be swayed no matter what I say, so it's pointless. |
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ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
140
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:41:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:the man is making a point that there is an issue with the game and you guys get on here trolling. no wonder ccp cant get it right they listen to the ******** trolls in this forum instead of taking points from the actual players like aeon and many others who quit playing this game because of ccps failure to fix and or balance things properly. i sware they need to have a day care part in the forums for kids with lack of attention. aeon i support you 100% and people are on the same page just not the idiots on here. So CCP should listen to quitters who arnt even committed enough to actually quit. Because building a game off the advice of people who take their ball and hide in the MCC when the game doesn't fall in line with their own personal vision is really going to work out well for CCP. Just because someone doesn't like something doesn't make them right.
lol ccp should listen to useful advice. not a$$holes who think hey theres an exploit let me use it.
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
2255
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:47:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:the man is making a point that there is an issue with the game and you guys get on here trolling. no wonder ccp cant get it right they listen to the ******** trolls in this forum instead of taking points from the actual players like aeon and many others who quit playing this game because of ccps failure to fix and or balance things properly. i sware they need to have a day care part in the forums for kids with lack of attention. aeon i support you 100% and people are on the same page just not the idiots on here. So CCP should listen to quitters who arnt even committed enough to actually quit. Because building a game off the advice of people who take their ball and hide in the MCC when the game doesn't fall in line with their own personal vision is really going to work out well for CCP. Just because someone doesn't like something doesn't make them right. lol ccp should listen to useful advice. not a$$holes who think hey theres an exploit let me use it.
Considering that I was 100% WRONG in that the vehicle rebalance was in 1.4 (it's actually 1.5) I'm very seriously not waiting until September for this to be fixed. I played this game because I wanted to shoot things, not get run over.
So, yeah - a potential wait time of 30-60 days is WAY too much to deal with this on an everyday basis:
http://www.hotink.com/wacky/05_ani.gif |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
421
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:48:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:the man is making a point that there is an issue with the game and you guys get on here trolling. no wonder ccp cant get it right they listen to the ******** trolls in this forum instead of taking points from the actual players like aeon and many others who quit playing this game because of ccps failure to fix and or balance things properly. i sware they need to have a day care part in the forums for kids with lack of attention. aeon i support you 100% and people are on the same page just not the idiots on here.
LOL how are you guys actual players when yall claim to be quitting or have quit already? |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
421
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:49:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:the man is making a point that there is an issue with the game and you guys get on here trolling. no wonder ccp cant get it right they listen to the ******** trolls in this forum instead of taking points from the actual players like aeon and many others who quit playing this game because of ccps failure to fix and or balance things properly. i sware they need to have a day care part in the forums for kids with lack of attention. aeon i support you 100% and people are on the same page just not the idiots on here. So CCP should listen to quitters who arnt even committed enough to actually quit. Because building a game off the advice of people who take their ball and hide in the MCC when the game doesn't fall in line with their own personal vision is really going to work out well for CCP. Just because someone doesn't like something doesn't make them right. lol ccp should listen to useful advice. not a$$holes who think hey theres an exploit let me use it. Considering that I was 100% WRONG in that the vehicle rebalance was in 1.4 (it's actually 1.5) I'm very seriously not waiting until September for this to be fixed. I played this game because I wanted to shoot things, not get run over. So, yeah - a potential wait time of 30-60 days is WAY too much to deal with this on an everyday basis: http://www.hotink.com/wacky/05_ani.gif
And you will be back here tomorrow posting another rant even though you quit the game. You guys are utterly boring and predictable.
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ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
140
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:52:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:the man is making a point that there is an issue with the game and you guys get on here trolling. no wonder ccp cant get it right they listen to the ******** trolls in this forum instead of taking points from the actual players like aeon and many others who quit playing this game because of ccps failure to fix and or balance things properly. i sware they need to have a day care part in the forums for kids with lack of attention. aeon i support you 100% and people are on the same page just not the idiots on here. LOL how are you guys actual players when yall claim to be quitting or have quit already?
the same way you attack a planet and dont show or hire someone else because your alliance and corp is to weak to fight its battle. |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
140
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:55:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:the man is making a point that there is an issue with the game and you guys get on here trolling. no wonder ccp cant get it right they listen to the ******** trolls in this forum instead of taking points from the actual players like aeon and many others who quit playing this game because of ccps failure to fix and or balance things properly. i sware they need to have a day care part in the forums for kids with lack of attention. aeon i support you 100% and people are on the same page just not the idiots on here. So CCP should listen to quitters who arnt even committed enough to actually quit. Because building a game off the advice of people who take their ball and hide in the MCC when the game doesn't fall in line with their own personal vision is really going to work out well for CCP. Just because someone doesn't like something doesn't make them right. lol ccp should listen to useful advice. not a$$holes who think hey theres an exploit let me use it. Considering that I was 100% WRONG in that the vehicle rebalance was in 1.4 (it's actually 1.5) I'm very seriously not waiting until September for this to be fixed. I played this game because I wanted to shoot things, not get run over. So, yeah - a potential wait time of 30-60 days is WAY too much to deal with this on an everyday basis: http://www.hotink.com/wacky/05_ani.gif And you will be back here tomorrow posting another rant even though you quit the game. You guys are utterly boring and predictable.
i never said i would quit but theres an issue in the game that needs fixing. period now i dont know how well you comprehend or how far your brain thinks [obviously not much by your reply] but these issues been here far to long and ccp needs to look into alot not just 1 of the issues this game has and needs to stop delaying them to fix stuff that isnt broken. understand? or should i google this in idiot terms for you to understand? |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
421
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:56:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:Michael Arck wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:the man is making a point that there is an issue with the game and you guys get on here trolling. no wonder ccp cant get it right they listen to the ******** trolls in this forum instead of taking points from the actual players like aeon and many others who quit playing this game because of ccps failure to fix and or balance things properly. i sware they need to have a day care part in the forums for kids with lack of attention. aeon i support you 100% and people are on the same page just not the idiots on here. LOL how are you guys actual players when yall claim to be quitting or have quit already? the same way you attack a planet and dont show or hire someone else because your alliance and corp is to weak to fight its battle.
Ow! Aw man that didn't hurt any? You got something else that can actually hurt me? Yet and still if you guys would stop crying like a bunch of sissies and realize that this is a game in a making that your constructive criticism (and I stress constructive) can help shape. Most of the time, you big babies whine and threaten, but still play.
Enough is enough. Throw some dirt on it. Do some push its. HTFU you daisy |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Auxiliaries
2246
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:56:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Give it a rest.
Vehicles and AV need a complete rebalance, not a little hotfix. You're completely missing the point Jason - and I know that's because you're a vehicle aficionado. You need to look at the larger picture of things and what is going to happen after tomorrow's downtime when Flaylocks/Contacts/Caldari Logi are rebalanced and where things are going to go from there. 30 Days of nothing but BPO LAVs and LLAVs dominating the field. Put it together man.
Honestly, a militia tank will decimate LAVs, You know how many times my corp mates have done this to me because they know I'm all vehicles? They simply call out a soma when I'm in a Charybdis, Proto swarms in a Madrugar, forge in my Gunnlogi and they leave me to fly around the map in a dropship.
I put it together, but I simply see no alternative at this moment in time, nerfing the LAVs will just result in an entire set of skills becoming useless, and if we're going to do that, I want my Gallente AND Caldari LLAV SP back. No hotfix will fix this, it needs proper balance to not alienate an entire group.
You cannot hide from a Flaylock, even in a Dropship (**** flips you upside down), but you can hide from a LLAV.. |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
140
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:59:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:Michael Arck wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:the man is making a point that there is an issue with the game and you guys get on here trolling. no wonder ccp cant get it right they listen to the ******** trolls in this forum instead of taking points from the actual players like aeon and many others who quit playing this game because of ccps failure to fix and or balance things properly. i sware they need to have a day care part in the forums for kids with lack of attention. aeon i support you 100% and people are on the same page just not the idiots on here. LOL how are you guys actual players when yall claim to be quitting or have quit already? the same way you attack a planet and dont show or hire someone else because your alliance and corp is to weak to fight its battle. Ow! Aw man that didn't hurt any? You got something else that can actually hurt me? Yet and still if you guys would stop crying like a bunch of sissies and realize that this is a game in a making that your constructive criticism (and I stress constructive) can help shape. Most of the time, you big babies whine and threaten, but still play. Enough is enough. Throw some dirt on it. Do some push its. HTFU you daisy
obviously it did otherwise you would of just ignored it.
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
2255
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Posted - 2013.07.30 11:04:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:Michael Arck wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:the man is making a point that there is an issue with the game and you guys get on here trolling. no wonder ccp cant get it right they listen to the ******** trolls in this forum instead of taking points from the actual players like aeon and many others who quit playing this game because of ccps failure to fix and or balance things properly. i sware they need to have a day care part in the forums for kids with lack of attention. aeon i support you 100% and people are on the same page just not the idiots on here. LOL how are you guys actual players when yall claim to be quitting or have quit already? the same way you attack a planet and dont show or hire someone else because your alliance and corp is to weak to fight its battle. Ow! Aw man that didn't hurt any? You got something else that can actually hurt me? Yet and still if you guys would stop crying like a bunch of sissies and realize that this is a game in a making that your constructive criticism (and I stress constructive) can help shape. Most of the time, you big babies whine and threaten, but still play. Enough is enough. Throw some dirt on it. Do some push its. HTFU you daisy
See - I used to be right there with you on that argument but constructive criticism only goes so far.
May 14: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=77095 May 20: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=834399#post834399
I wasn't ******** when I stated that this was going to be a problem right off the bat.
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