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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
2251
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:12:00 -
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Yanno - I went and tried out Planetside 2 for three days because people kept acting like it's the holy grail of FPS games. It has it's kicks, sure but it's nothing spectacular. There are things it does right and things it does wrong.
This is about the 8000000th thread I've started regarding this problem but the fact that it's still a problem is amazing to me.
LAVs.
It took -THREE WEEKS- to Hotfix the Duvolle Tactical Assault Rifle, so why is it that we're experimenting with collision detection (not the issue with the things in the first place) for 1.4 which is scheduled to come out in August? Here's the issue right here:
Quote:Updated all HAV and LAV HP Values (please post your feedback here):STD & Militia HAVs - 25% more HP, Enforcer HAVs and Militia LAVs - 60% more HP, STD & Scout LAVs - 50% more HP, Charybdis Logistics LAV - 70% more HP, Limbus Logistics LAV - 40% more HP
You can hot-fix the problem in but you can't hot-fix it out, though I suspect it's probably because one or more members on the CPM are playing the bobble head and ignoring them being an issue - but I'm sure one look at the data that CCP has recorded over their use will show an obvious peak.
Fixing a 'collision bug' isn't going to solve the issue in that -they are too hard to kill-. Assuming the AV grenade can even catch up with them (9/10 they just explode behind the LAV and do no damage) it still takes more than one, even at the Prototype level.
So yeah, expect some more of these threads as I watch the map from now on until 1.4 is released. Because there will be more...
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Michael Arck
sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
421
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:15:00 -
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You start off reading the thread like uh huh, then its gets to "okay" and then its just rockets into the WTF category within nanoseconds.
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Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
298
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:15:00 -
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Why are you here and how much did you pay for this game? |
Allah's Snackbar
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
453
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:16:00 -
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Soon you will also finish AFKing and then the desire will all subside.
You will be then cured of feelings of "potential". |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Auxiliaries
2246
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:19:00 -
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Give it a rest.
Vehicles and AV need a complete rebalance, not a little hotfix. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3375
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:19:00 -
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Please have the decency to AFK on the oceanic servers like everyone else. |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
829
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:19:00 -
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Sniping is very enjoyable.. specially killing Protobears... why AFK when you can collect Pubstomper tears instead ? |
THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Pure Innocence. EoN.
139
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:21:00 -
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Takes 6 lai dai packed av grenades to kill a fully passive damage resisted charybdis. I got to test it on an abandoned charybdis, before the owner realised i was popping his ride, he shot at me after it was gone and i drove away in my blood raiders saga.
Seriously CCP? 6 proto packed AV nades to kill a charybdis, without even an active hardener.
And yet armor tanks go down usually in 3-5 nades.
Tanks. |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
140
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:21:00 -
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the man is making a point that there is an issue with the game and you guys get on here trolling. no wonder ccp cant get it right they listen to the ******** trolls in this forum instead of taking points from the actual players like aeon and many others who quit playing this game because of ccps failure to fix and or balance things properly. i sware they need to have a day care part in the forums for kids with lack of attention. aeon i support you 100% and people are on the same page just not the idiots on here. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
2252
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:23:00 -
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Allah's Snackbar wrote:Soon you will also finish AFKing and then the desire will all subside.
You will be then cured of feelings of "potential".
Yeah, I'm afraid of that because I actually am the guy who keeps a lot of the players in my particular circle from quitting by being active on the forums and passing along information that gives them hope.
But, fact remains that this LAV issue was caused by a change no-one asked for and has yet to be fixed. Beyond that, we have to wait another -MONTH- for it to be even remotely fixed and considering they're not going into detail on what is being done to "balance" AV vs Vehicles in 1.4 my hopes aren't exactly high.
With Flaylocks and Contact Grenades getting a balance pass the true power of the LAV is going to be readily known to the average player, such is the nature of FPS games. The potential of a tool in the game isn't usually fully realized until months after it's been introduced into the game and as more and more people keep using this excuse....:
"I used it because the other team used it"
We're going to see a pandemic of these damned things. The distance between objectives is too large in most maps for a game of 'the floor is lava' and considering most of the time the driver is a Heavy fitted with at least SOME form of AV... I'm sure you see where this is going.
Here's the advice they'll often give you:
"HAV with Scattered Blaster"
That's just bait. The second you call in a tank, if they can't run you down they'll just jump out and destroy it with their own AV options. Provided you DO kill the LAV (rarely occurs) there is absolutely nothing stopping them from calling it in again.
So, yeah, still amazed this isn't "hotfixed" yet. |
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Viktor Zokas
187.
99
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:24:00 -
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Good bye, no one is gonna miss you. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
2252
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:26:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Give it a rest.
Vehicles and AV need a complete rebalance, not a little hotfix.
You're completely missing the point Jason - and I know that's because you're a vehicle aficionado. You need to look at the larger picture of things and what is going to happen after tomorrow's downtime when Flaylocks/Contacts/Caldari Logi are rebalanced and where things are going to go from there.
30 Days of nothing but BPO LAVs and LLAVs dominating the field.
Put it together man. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
2252
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:27:00 -
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Viktor Zokas wrote:Good bye, no one is gonna miss you.
I'll remember that the next PC match you guys have, Viktor |
Viktor Zokas
187.
99
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:28:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Viktor Zokas wrote:Good bye, no one is gonna miss you. I'll remember that the next PC match you guys have, Viktor
You won't ever see me in PC, you're afk'ing. |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
829
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:29:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Give it a rest.
Vehicles and AV need a complete rebalance, not a little hotfix. You're completely missing the point Jason - and I know that's because you're a vehicle aficionado. You need to look at the larger picture of things and what is going to happen after tomorrow's downtime when Flaylocks/Contacts/Caldari Logi are rebalanced and where things are going to go from there. 30 Days of nothing but BPO LAVs and LLAVs dominating the field. Put it together man.
I already anticipated this..THAT is why i investing SP in SNIPING. Seriously... give it a try, is actually allot of FUN. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
2253
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:31:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Give it a rest.
Vehicles and AV need a complete rebalance, not a little hotfix. You're completely missing the point Jason - and I know that's because you're a vehicle aficionado. You need to look at the larger picture of things and what is going to happen after tomorrow's downtime when Flaylocks/Contacts/Caldari Logi are rebalanced and where things are going to go from there. 30 Days of nothing but BPO LAVs and LLAVs dominating the field. Put it together man. I already anticipated this..THAT is why i investing SP in SNIPING. Seriously... give it a try, is actually allot of FUN.
I've actually got a really nice sniping suit that I use for when I roll with my corporation/alliances buddies and I'm actually a pretty good shot with the Genesis. But, sniping isn't what I -want- to do in Dust 514 and it most certainly shouldn't be what I -have- to do.... |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
140
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:31:00 -
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Viktor Zokas wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Viktor Zokas wrote:Good bye, no one is gonna miss you. I'll remember that the next PC match you guys have, Viktor You won't ever see me in PC, you're afk'ing.
u will miss him dont lie.
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
42
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:34:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:the man is making a point that there is an issue with the game and you guys get on here trolling. no wonder ccp cant get it right they listen to the ******** trolls in this forum instead of taking points from the actual players like aeon and many others who quit playing this game because of ccps failure to fix and or balance things properly. i sware they need to have a day care part in the forums for kids with lack of attention. aeon i support you 100% and people are on the same page just not the idiots on here.
So CCP should listen to quitters who arnt even committed enough to actually quit. Because building a game off the advice of people who take their ball and hide in the MCC when the game doesn't fall in line with their own personal vision is really going to work out well for CCP. Just because someone doesn't like something doesn't make them right. |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
829
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:35:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Give it a rest.
Vehicles and AV need a complete rebalance, not a little hotfix. You're completely missing the point Jason - and I know that's because you're a vehicle aficionado. You need to look at the larger picture of things and what is going to happen after tomorrow's downtime when Flaylocks/Contacts/Caldari Logi are rebalanced and where things are going to go from there. 30 Days of nothing but BPO LAVs and LLAVs dominating the field. Put it together man. I already anticipated this..THAT is why i investing SP in SNIPING. Seriously... give it a try, is actually allot of FUN. I've actually got a really nice sniping suit that I use for when I roll with my corporation/alliances buddies and I'm actually a pretty good shot with the Genesis. But, sniping isn't what I -want- to do in Dust 514 and it most certainly shouldn't be what I -have- to do....
I don't particularly enjoy Sniping neither ... but is allot more fun than AFKing... or being Pubstomp ... |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
2255
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:39:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:the man is making a point that there is an issue with the game and you guys get on here trolling. no wonder ccp cant get it right they listen to the ******** trolls in this forum instead of taking points from the actual players like aeon and many others who quit playing this game because of ccps failure to fix and or balance things properly. i sware they need to have a day care part in the forums for kids with lack of attention. aeon i support you 100% and people are on the same page just not the idiots on here. So CCP should listen to quitters who arnt even committed enough to actually quit. Because building a game off the advice of people who take their ball and hide in the MCC when the game doesn't fall in line with their own personal vision is really going to work out well for CCP. Just because someone doesn't like something doesn't make them right.
No, see - I'm doing what any Eve player would do and doing what benefits -ME- in the long run. I don't have to participate in order to get my SP, at least until they implement an AFK counter-measure but even then I, like everyone in this game, will find a way around that.
Because it will definitely help having an extra 285,000 SP a week (boosted).
However, it's not worth -PLAYING- the game when there are obvious imbalances. You can say "quitter" all you want but there are certain things that are game design and there are certain things that a player is responsible for. I am responsible for making a decision that involves me dying and losing ISK. I am NOT responsible for a 27,000 ISK vehicle being harder to kill than an HAV.
Any idiot could look at this and see that it is a problem and there have been a great deal of people who have seen it - the fact that CCP had to look into the avenue of fixing collision (however silly their path of doing so may be) goes to show that there is some unintentional abuse of what they're supposed to be used for.
But you know - half way through explaining this I figure you're just enough of a sheep as to not be swayed no matter what I say, so it's pointless. |
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ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
140
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:41:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:the man is making a point that there is an issue with the game and you guys get on here trolling. no wonder ccp cant get it right they listen to the ******** trolls in this forum instead of taking points from the actual players like aeon and many others who quit playing this game because of ccps failure to fix and or balance things properly. i sware they need to have a day care part in the forums for kids with lack of attention. aeon i support you 100% and people are on the same page just not the idiots on here. So CCP should listen to quitters who arnt even committed enough to actually quit. Because building a game off the advice of people who take their ball and hide in the MCC when the game doesn't fall in line with their own personal vision is really going to work out well for CCP. Just because someone doesn't like something doesn't make them right.
lol ccp should listen to useful advice. not a$$holes who think hey theres an exploit let me use it.
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
2255
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:47:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:the man is making a point that there is an issue with the game and you guys get on here trolling. no wonder ccp cant get it right they listen to the ******** trolls in this forum instead of taking points from the actual players like aeon and many others who quit playing this game because of ccps failure to fix and or balance things properly. i sware they need to have a day care part in the forums for kids with lack of attention. aeon i support you 100% and people are on the same page just not the idiots on here. So CCP should listen to quitters who arnt even committed enough to actually quit. Because building a game off the advice of people who take their ball and hide in the MCC when the game doesn't fall in line with their own personal vision is really going to work out well for CCP. Just because someone doesn't like something doesn't make them right. lol ccp should listen to useful advice. not a$$holes who think hey theres an exploit let me use it.
Considering that I was 100% WRONG in that the vehicle rebalance was in 1.4 (it's actually 1.5) I'm very seriously not waiting until September for this to be fixed. I played this game because I wanted to shoot things, not get run over.
So, yeah - a potential wait time of 30-60 days is WAY too much to deal with this on an everyday basis:
http://www.hotink.com/wacky/05_ani.gif |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
421
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:48:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:the man is making a point that there is an issue with the game and you guys get on here trolling. no wonder ccp cant get it right they listen to the ******** trolls in this forum instead of taking points from the actual players like aeon and many others who quit playing this game because of ccps failure to fix and or balance things properly. i sware they need to have a day care part in the forums for kids with lack of attention. aeon i support you 100% and people are on the same page just not the idiots on here.
LOL how are you guys actual players when yall claim to be quitting or have quit already? |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
421
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:49:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:the man is making a point that there is an issue with the game and you guys get on here trolling. no wonder ccp cant get it right they listen to the ******** trolls in this forum instead of taking points from the actual players like aeon and many others who quit playing this game because of ccps failure to fix and or balance things properly. i sware they need to have a day care part in the forums for kids with lack of attention. aeon i support you 100% and people are on the same page just not the idiots on here. So CCP should listen to quitters who arnt even committed enough to actually quit. Because building a game off the advice of people who take their ball and hide in the MCC when the game doesn't fall in line with their own personal vision is really going to work out well for CCP. Just because someone doesn't like something doesn't make them right. lol ccp should listen to useful advice. not a$$holes who think hey theres an exploit let me use it. Considering that I was 100% WRONG in that the vehicle rebalance was in 1.4 (it's actually 1.5) I'm very seriously not waiting until September for this to be fixed. I played this game because I wanted to shoot things, not get run over. So, yeah - a potential wait time of 30-60 days is WAY too much to deal with this on an everyday basis: http://www.hotink.com/wacky/05_ani.gif
And you will be back here tomorrow posting another rant even though you quit the game. You guys are utterly boring and predictable.
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ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
140
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:52:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:the man is making a point that there is an issue with the game and you guys get on here trolling. no wonder ccp cant get it right they listen to the ******** trolls in this forum instead of taking points from the actual players like aeon and many others who quit playing this game because of ccps failure to fix and or balance things properly. i sware they need to have a day care part in the forums for kids with lack of attention. aeon i support you 100% and people are on the same page just not the idiots on here. LOL how are you guys actual players when yall claim to be quitting or have quit already?
the same way you attack a planet and dont show or hire someone else because your alliance and corp is to weak to fight its battle. |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
140
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:55:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:the man is making a point that there is an issue with the game and you guys get on here trolling. no wonder ccp cant get it right they listen to the ******** trolls in this forum instead of taking points from the actual players like aeon and many others who quit playing this game because of ccps failure to fix and or balance things properly. i sware they need to have a day care part in the forums for kids with lack of attention. aeon i support you 100% and people are on the same page just not the idiots on here. So CCP should listen to quitters who arnt even committed enough to actually quit. Because building a game off the advice of people who take their ball and hide in the MCC when the game doesn't fall in line with their own personal vision is really going to work out well for CCP. Just because someone doesn't like something doesn't make them right. lol ccp should listen to useful advice. not a$$holes who think hey theres an exploit let me use it. Considering that I was 100% WRONG in that the vehicle rebalance was in 1.4 (it's actually 1.5) I'm very seriously not waiting until September for this to be fixed. I played this game because I wanted to shoot things, not get run over. So, yeah - a potential wait time of 30-60 days is WAY too much to deal with this on an everyday basis: http://www.hotink.com/wacky/05_ani.gif And you will be back here tomorrow posting another rant even though you quit the game. You guys are utterly boring and predictable.
i never said i would quit but theres an issue in the game that needs fixing. period now i dont know how well you comprehend or how far your brain thinks [obviously not much by your reply] but these issues been here far to long and ccp needs to look into alot not just 1 of the issues this game has and needs to stop delaying them to fix stuff that isnt broken. understand? or should i google this in idiot terms for you to understand? |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
421
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:56:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:Michael Arck wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:the man is making a point that there is an issue with the game and you guys get on here trolling. no wonder ccp cant get it right they listen to the ******** trolls in this forum instead of taking points from the actual players like aeon and many others who quit playing this game because of ccps failure to fix and or balance things properly. i sware they need to have a day care part in the forums for kids with lack of attention. aeon i support you 100% and people are on the same page just not the idiots on here. LOL how are you guys actual players when yall claim to be quitting or have quit already? the same way you attack a planet and dont show or hire someone else because your alliance and corp is to weak to fight its battle.
Ow! Aw man that didn't hurt any? You got something else that can actually hurt me? Yet and still if you guys would stop crying like a bunch of sissies and realize that this is a game in a making that your constructive criticism (and I stress constructive) can help shape. Most of the time, you big babies whine and threaten, but still play.
Enough is enough. Throw some dirt on it. Do some push its. HTFU you daisy |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Auxiliaries
2246
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:56:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Give it a rest.
Vehicles and AV need a complete rebalance, not a little hotfix. You're completely missing the point Jason - and I know that's because you're a vehicle aficionado. You need to look at the larger picture of things and what is going to happen after tomorrow's downtime when Flaylocks/Contacts/Caldari Logi are rebalanced and where things are going to go from there. 30 Days of nothing but BPO LAVs and LLAVs dominating the field. Put it together man.
Honestly, a militia tank will decimate LAVs, You know how many times my corp mates have done this to me because they know I'm all vehicles? They simply call out a soma when I'm in a Charybdis, Proto swarms in a Madrugar, forge in my Gunnlogi and they leave me to fly around the map in a dropship.
I put it together, but I simply see no alternative at this moment in time, nerfing the LAVs will just result in an entire set of skills becoming useless, and if we're going to do that, I want my Gallente AND Caldari LLAV SP back. No hotfix will fix this, it needs proper balance to not alienate an entire group.
You cannot hide from a Flaylock, even in a Dropship (**** flips you upside down), but you can hide from a LLAV.. |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
140
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:59:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:Michael Arck wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:the man is making a point that there is an issue with the game and you guys get on here trolling. no wonder ccp cant get it right they listen to the ******** trolls in this forum instead of taking points from the actual players like aeon and many others who quit playing this game because of ccps failure to fix and or balance things properly. i sware they need to have a day care part in the forums for kids with lack of attention. aeon i support you 100% and people are on the same page just not the idiots on here. LOL how are you guys actual players when yall claim to be quitting or have quit already? the same way you attack a planet and dont show or hire someone else because your alliance and corp is to weak to fight its battle. Ow! Aw man that didn't hurt any? You got something else that can actually hurt me? Yet and still if you guys would stop crying like a bunch of sissies and realize that this is a game in a making that your constructive criticism (and I stress constructive) can help shape. Most of the time, you big babies whine and threaten, but still play. Enough is enough. Throw some dirt on it. Do some push its. HTFU you daisy
obviously it did otherwise you would of just ignored it.
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
2255
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Posted - 2013.07.30 11:04:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:Michael Arck wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:the man is making a point that there is an issue with the game and you guys get on here trolling. no wonder ccp cant get it right they listen to the ******** trolls in this forum instead of taking points from the actual players like aeon and many others who quit playing this game because of ccps failure to fix and or balance things properly. i sware they need to have a day care part in the forums for kids with lack of attention. aeon i support you 100% and people are on the same page just not the idiots on here. LOL how are you guys actual players when yall claim to be quitting or have quit already? the same way you attack a planet and dont show or hire someone else because your alliance and corp is to weak to fight its battle. Ow! Aw man that didn't hurt any? You got something else that can actually hurt me? Yet and still if you guys would stop crying like a bunch of sissies and realize that this is a game in a making that your constructive criticism (and I stress constructive) can help shape. Most of the time, you big babies whine and threaten, but still play. Enough is enough. Throw some dirt on it. Do some push its. HTFU you daisy
See - I used to be right there with you on that argument but constructive criticism only goes so far.
May 14: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=77095 May 20: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=834399#post834399
I wasn't ******** when I stated that this was going to be a problem right off the bat.
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Wakko03
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
286
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Posted - 2013.07.30 11:04:00 -
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Nope saw my fill of this nonsense yesterday, it is more than just the nonsense of seeing a barbie convertible acting like an armored car.
There is what protecting the driver? The windshield? Add in that LAV's only became a problem when they "fixed" the controls because everyone and his brother said they were useless. Then add in a smidge of the riduculous.... if you roll your car in real life just how fast are you going to climb out of it and push it back to the normal upright position. Funny how you didn't bend the axle or that it can still do full damage to a pedestrian at 0.1 mph or whatever is the equivalent for you kph people.
Not to mention anything along the lines of the homeless squeegy guy they all seem to use at the red-lights to clean the blood off the windshield.
But why is it that only un-manned turret installations can damage the driver, and why did I have to switch to contact grenades in order to hit the driver vs using the proto level packed AV grenade.
I even saw one guy over in tech support claiming that AV grenades are lasting to long on the ground, which after the fit of laughing I thought to myself... why does the grenade even disappear in the first place without exploding?
CCP couldn't even give me a few months of distraction waiting for a game I actually want to play that has some sort of actual point to it.
And that is only if you are facing 1 LAV what happens when they have 3 and a tank in the distance and a dropship overhead?
Simple solution to the problem, CCP give me 1 game mode without vehicles.... since laser rifles are soon going to be cutting me down before the LAV can even run me over.
Otherwise, CCP you may want to think about giving us the blue tortoise shell from mario kart because it is just plan full tard, and as we all know thanks to tropic thunder you don't go full tard. |
steadyhand amarr
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
999
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Posted - 2013.07.30 11:05:00 -
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Is afking how people try and be cool in a video game these days? ?? Because I don't understand why you load up a video game and NOT play it. When you could play a game you enjoy and not ruin everyone elses play experice |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.30 11:07:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Is afking how people try and be cool in a video game these days? ?? Because I don't understand why you load up a video game and NOT play it. When you could play a game you enjoy and not ruin everyone elses play experice
Nah, see, because there's not a statue in Jita that I can fire at 23/7 this is my method of protesting. Earning SP without doing a damned thing to actually earn it so that I'm still gaining something without having to put myself in a situation that is obviously broken and wouldn't have occurred if proper balancing procedures were in place. |
Kiriasis Draca
Penguin's March
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Posted - 2013.07.30 11:14:00 -
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You know, while I am tired of the vehicle train ruining what starts out as a pretty d*** good firefight, there are games I get a kick out of baiting the LAV drivers. I kind of had this, "Oh look!" moment, when I made two of them do a head on collision into each other, and to my suprise....they died. Imagine that scenario.
Even better, I learned how to bait the LAV's by learning how to try and dodge the mass driver/flaylock exodus.
I think, regardless of what is being used, in some cases it's a matter of skill and in others, just OP.
But those Logi LAVs suck, hands down. My good AV's get shrugged off when they have hard core armor rep
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.30 11:15:00 -
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And to respond to what some random EON bee said in a completely different forum thread:
Why should I leave? Why should I stop posting on the forums and why - please answer this - why should I stop accumulating SP so that I can have THAT much more of an advantage as opposed to... Oh, I dunno, legitimately leaving..? That's illogical and trolling that I'll be "just like all the other leavers" is about the dumbest insult I've ever heard.
Let me break it down for you:
You're -LITERALLY- trying to insult me by accusing me of taking advantage of a broken system that does not require participation to reap the rewards when I don't care to play the game in it's current state. That's like insulting a stock market trader for not actually making money through a paycheck.
Are people really this stupid? I mean, seriously... |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.30 11:17:00 -
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Kiriasis Draca wrote:You know, while I am tired of the vehicle train ruining what starts out as a pretty d*** good firefight, there are games I get a kick out of baiting the LAV drivers. I kind of had this, "Oh look!" moment, when I made two of them do a head on collision into each other, and to my suprise....they died. Imagine that scenario.
Even better, I learned how to bait the LAV's by learning how to try and dodge the mass driver/flaylock exodus.
I think, regardless of what is being used, in some cases it's a matter of skill and in others, just OP.
But those Logi LAVs suck, hands down. My good AV's get shrugged off when they have hard core armor rep
And, bear in mind, there's nothing to stop them from going back to base to chill next to the supply depot to recover from whatever that repair module couldn't handle.
I'll just insert: "If only we had Stasis Webifiers" but, remember, Dust 514 IS NOT EVE ONLINE. We can't borrow ideas that have worked in a game that's lasted over a decade |
Wakko03
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.07.30 11:18:00 -
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Actually CCP is really stupid here:
So how come an LAV can climb up stairs? And corner so well as to be able to get around corners and then down another staircase? |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.30 11:21:00 -
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Wakko03 wrote:Actually CCP is really stupid here:
So how come an LAV can climb up stairs? And corner so well as to be able to get around corners and then down another staircase?
The reason they're not an issue in -every other game that has vehicles- is a nifty little thing called Acceleration and Maximum Speed. Most other games the LAV comparison doesn't chuck out to 100+ km/h as soon as they hit the pedal and aren't so agile as to have performance racer-like handbrakes that allow for instant 180 degree turns.
See any Battlefield game for more details.
Edit: Also, they usually don't have a sound bug which makes them ninja stealthy and can also be heard from quite a distance away. |
Wakko03
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Posted - 2013.07.30 11:30:00 -
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Hey I know, I have tried to jump on top of the hood of the stopped LAV and shoot the driver out, but I ended up taking damage to the tune of 60points of damage for a stationary "stuck" lav that flipped itself over a railing.
Or how about cooking a AV grenade, why does it not explode when they hit me.... a la the grenade just vanishes like a popcorn fart in huricane, faster than the grenade disappears if you throw in front of an LAV.
IF complaining is what got my CPU nerfed for my logi suit, get ready ccp as I am going to beat this horse into some ikea food courts meatballs. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.30 11:34:00 -
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Wakko03 wrote:Hey I know, I have tried to jump on top of the hood of the stopped LAV and shoot the driver out, but I ended up taking damage to the tune of 60points of damage for a stationary "stuck" lav that flipped itself over a railing.
Or how about cooking a AV grenade, why does it not explode when they hit me.... a la the grenade just vanishes like a popcorn fart in huricane, faster than the grenade disappears if you throw in front of an LAV.
IF complaining is what got my CPU nerfed for my logi suit, get ready ccp as I am going to beat this horse into some ikea food courts meatballs.
Yeah, nerfing the CPU was a bit much imo... The issue was the bonus - not the fitting capability, but what the hell do I know.
What's even more entertaining is the fact that you -CANT- jump over an LAV because the collision box covers the turret as well, so even though you'll completely clear the vehicle the turret will still kill you no matter what. You're ONLY option is to kill it and even then the wreckage will often run you down anyway.
Any driver worth his salt will notice you're using AV and just jump out with an HMG or something else and if you bring a tank to the field they'll just use their own AV options to deal with you. They're more versatile than Assault Rifles. |
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