Forges are op vs infantry. Until it can't OHK ANY suit, it deserves to be nerfed

forguns are perfectly fine and need no buff, or nerf whatsoever.

i mean when will the nerfing stop? is EVERYTHING that isn't an AR going to get nerfed?

first the HMG now the forgun... so the Heavy suit is now effectively gimped in weapponry and slots and movement speed. is that what you guys want? ARs are OP try nerfing that

Forges are op vs infantry. Until it can't OHK ANY suit, it deserves to be nerfed

The problem with FG vs Infantry is the splash damage. If they hit you square on then the player was a good shot and that's better than being a sniper as the FG gets no scope or ADS.

Why?
Snipers, Plasma Cannons, Flaylocks, Mass Drivers, Grenades, Shotguns can all OHK infantry (depending on the suit/fit). So why single out the FG? Is it because the FG can OHK every suit? That sounds pretty fair to me actually... nope, actually it is worse for the heavies since they are a larger target and slower than molasses.

Of course, well done if this is a troll.

First off this is an av weapon and should go straight through infantry like swarms do. But no. Usually forge gunners one shot me when I'm on my way to capture an objective and they out gun me with one lucky shot. I shoot them and strafe. They should be nerfed to 10% damage to infantry. Maybe 5%

Dear CCP,
PLEASE NERF ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT IS NOT AR WEAPON. PLEASE NERF GRENADES BECAUSE IT DOES MORE DMG THAN A AR. PLEASE NERF THE DMG MELE DOES, I DON'T WANT TO MOVE FROM THIS SPOT SO MAKE IT THAT THE MELE JUST TICKLES ME. PLEASE NERF SNIPERS, I CAN'T SHOOT THEM SO OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE OP. PLEASE NERF THE MASS DRIVER, I DON'T WANT TO MOVE TO ESCAPE ITS SPLASH DMG. PLEASE MAKE IT SO THAT EVERYTHING IN THE GAME FOLLOWS ME TO GIVE ME COVER BECAUSE I SUCK SO MUCH TO LOOK FOR COVER. PLEASE NERF THE FORGE GUN, EVEN THOUGH ITS TOTALLY USELESS AS A FRONTLINE WEAPON IM TIRED OF BEING KILLED BY IT BECAUSE THIS WALL DIDNT MOVE CLOSER TO COVER ME. PLEASE NERF TANKS MY AR CANT KILL THEM. PLEASE BUFF THE GROUND. IT DOESNT PROVIDE COVER. PLEASE NERF RAIL GUNS. THEY ARE STRONGER. THAN A AR. DID I MENTION SNIPERS HAVE LONGER RANGE THAN A AR? FKING CRAZY. NERF NOW! ACTUALLY NO REMOVE EVERY AND ANY NONE AR WEAPON. SERIOUSLY. OH AND NERF THE PLASMA CANNON. IT KILLED ME SO IT MAKES IT OP. PLEASE NERF THE MILITA PISTOL. THE USER KEPT MOVING AND KILLED ME WITH IT.

Sincerely
A poor ar user that doesn't look for cover when being shot at by scrubs.

Lol I swear people like you are ruining the game. Getting tired of the nerf thing already. Leave it as it is. It's fun to try to take them down. Seriously get good or gtfo

I was actually using a smg jackkitten.

Lol I swear people like you are ruining the game. Getting tired of the nerf thing already. Leave it as it is. It's fun to try to take them down. Seriously get good or gtfo

It's an anti armor weapon. Ever tried killing infantry with swarms or av nades? Use logic or gtfo

Forge guns are fine, but if there has to be a nerf of some kind, all CPP "need" to do is remove the standard type and keep only the assault and breach IMO.
Assault needs timing, anticipation and a steady aim due to not being able to hold the charge.
The breach needs planning and stealth due to lack of movement whilst charging (and length of charge).

Shush youzzz! If CCP finishes gimping the entire heavy class we can start requesting respecs ad nauseam.

first the HMG now the forgun... so the Heavy suit is now effectively gimped in weapponry and slots and movement speed. is that what you guys want? ARs are OP try nerfing that

He can only ruin the game if CCP agrees with him, and the arguments for recent nerfs were a lot stronger than the one you've quoted here.

Maybe, but I only ever seem to die to assault forge guns anyway....



people have been requesting respecs ad nauseum at a more or less constant rate for months.



Get LLAV. Drive wherever, never die. Hit circle and teleport out of your vehicle and blow one or two people up with an HMG. When your shields go down hit circle again to teleport into your magical non-dying car. Mobility and survivability problems solved.

It's an anti armor weapon. Ever tried killing infantry with swarms or av nades? Use logic or gtfo

They arnt hard to use. They light up red when your get and fire much straighter than any other build before. I shouldn't be forc to kill anyone from a certain range. You obviously can't think straight if you think a lav or tank is infantry. You also called me a kid've concluded you are an idiot incapable to be reasoned with. Have a nice day. :)

You don't want to be forced to kill anyone from a certain range? Pathetic, whats next you want snipers also kill at close range also. So what I've gathered so far is that you don't like being taken out of your comfort zone. I understand now. and yes i called you a kid. Got a problem? Well this escalated quickly. since you shouldnt be "forced to kill somebody from certain range, I shouldn't have my gun nerfed aka balanced just because YOU FEEL THAT ITS OP. what weapon do you use sir? Do you prefer me to call you kid or sir?

It's an anti armor weapon. Ever tried killing infantry with swarms or av nades? Use logic or gtfo

There is a lot of misconception here bout the forge gun. The forge gun is not an AV weapon or an Anti infantry weapon. The forge gun is by design an anti material weapon; therefore, making it do less damage than it does to infantry is, at the least, a breach of it's intended role. Forge gunners on buildings get kills yes; but are by far neither unkillable or uncounterable. A sniper can easily make a forge gunners life miserable; as well as a steady stream of Dropships getting his attention so that the team can get forward. Having High ground, with any weapon is by QQ definition OP because it is what gives the user the upper hand.

To expand a little bit on the concept of having the upper hand wilst being on higher ground I'll set this example. A forgunner cannot use his weapon against infantry easily on equal ground, but if the forge gunner is on stairs or on say a building, the reason people say they are OP, then they gain an advantage. Now, let's say a plasma cannon is on the pipes; a weapon that does a considerably similar splash damage and radius than the forge gun does, it will have the same effect against infantry. Now let's say for instance some infantryman is on the pipes wielding an assault rifle. He can easily take potshots at enemies doing an excess of 50+ damage per shot at 750 RPM effectively killing an enemy and taking cover when the situation does not suit him. Now lets say that same infantryman where to use a scrambler, laser, grenades etc; he would use higher ground to a similar effect.

The forge gun, as it stands is a heavy weapon that requires the use of a heavy suit. As we all know these suits are slow, suffer from terrible fitting options and die to almost any weapon in the game; easily. Wilst using the forge gun you are entrapped by few play options and little maneuverability that causes a loss in kill potential in most maps that do not have a high and, considerably safe, vantage point.

SNIPING

Sniping is a part of life in dust. Sniper will tell you that "shadowing" is the best way to find targets. Now for the sake of those who don't know what shadowing is; it's when you can see an odd shape on the structure that should not be there. This makes forge gunners from building be highly visible to snipers from amateur to pro's. With a tactical sniper rifle and just two points into sniping a player can effectively disrupt the operations of a building or high terrain forge gunner by continually applying damage and eventually killing them if they don't have reps, which most don't.

To end this seamlessly steady stream of crying over everything I suggest and urge players to actually think about how they are going to take care of a situation instead of Having CCP eliminate is from the game. This same problem has created a monotonous stream of nerfs that creates unbalance to the game itself. I really hope the people that ask for a nerf actually think about what is happening and how they can counter it before they post in the forums.

To the writer of this topic, I share your view and think people would not be happy till they get their charged hug cannons so they don't have to think outside the box.

I went 25-2 with a militia fg last night in a dom match.one death was a set up fee to plant uplink and nanohive on the roof and i just tower camped my way to glory even got a nice game message after the match lol.its the splash damage and the reddot not having a clue where its coming from that makes it op.

You must enjoy running through open fields and ignoring any possible cover

I think FG's should be nerfed by how much ammo in the clip. im a tanker and my tank is worth 1.5 mil isk and to be blown up by a FG that only costs 50k isk kinda gets me annoyed, either put the price up of them or remove ammo or both but somthing needs to be done about them theres no point in assult dropships either because forge guns are just OP.

I went 25-2 with a militia fg last night in a dom match.one death was a set up fee to plant uplink and nanohive on the roof and i just tower camped my way to glory even got a nice game message after the match lol.its the splash damage and the reddot not having a clue where its coming from that makes it op.

I think FG's should be nerfed by how much ammo in the clip. im a tanker and my tank is worth 1.5 mil isk and to be blown up by a FG that only costs 50k isk kinda gets me annoyed, either put the price up of them or remove ammo or both but somthing needs to be done about them theres no point in assult dropships either because forge guns are just OP.

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They arnt hard to use. They light up red when your get and fire much straighter than any other build before. I shouldn't be forc to kill anyone from a certain range. You obviously can't think straight if you think a lav or tank is infantry. You also called me a kid've concluded you are an idiot incapable to be reasoned with. Have a nice day. :)