Pages: [1] 2 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
NIGGSWORM
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
46
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 15:53:00 -
[1] - Quote
As you know that your player base is only about max 5,000 players compared to other games which are worse than dust i.e COD (yes i said the forbidden name) but this problem mainly lies in Advertising dust, im pretty sure anyone that goes on the PlayStation store never really checks the FREE GAME section because if a game is free than its most likely garbage. So maybe if CCP makes a trailer to put on T.V. , i know it is expensive but we are going to increase our player count by hundreds of thousands. With this, more players buying AUR = more money for CCP. Also a noob friendly zone were noobs stay in academy till 1.5 mil sp. Another reason people are running away is because the moment when noobs jump out of the academy with 600k sp and they get proto stomped. |
da GAND
187.
190
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 15:54:00 -
[2] - Quote
NIGGSWORM wrote:As you know that your player base is only about max 5,000 players compared to other games which are worse than dust i.e COD (yes i said the forbidden name) but this problem mainly lies in Advertising dust, im pretty sure anyone that goes on the PlayStation store never really checks the FREE GAME section because if a game is free than its most likely garbage. So maybe if CCP makes a trailer to put on T.V. , i know it is expensive but we are going to increase our player count by hundreds of thousands. With this, more players buying AUR = more money for CCP. Also a noob friendly zone were noobs stay in academy till 1.5 mil sp. Another reason people are running away is because the moment when noobs jump out of the academy with 600k sp and they get proto stomped.
No they'll be disappointed as we all have been from being lured from those trailers, this game doesn't need more people it needs more content and stuff to do. |
Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1448
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 15:59:00 -
[3] - Quote
CCP won't start advertising this game until they've addressed most of the problems plaguing it since closed beta. |
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
899
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 16:00:00 -
[4] - Quote
da GAND wrote:NIGGSWORM wrote:As you know that your player base is only about max 5,000 players compared to other games which are worse than dust i.e COD (yes i said the forbidden name) but this problem mainly lies in Advertising dust, im pretty sure anyone that goes on the PlayStation store never really checks the FREE GAME section because if a game is free than its most likely garbage. So maybe if CCP makes a trailer to put on T.V. , i know it is expensive but we are going to increase our player count by hundreds of thousands. With this, more players buying AUR = more money for CCP. Also a noob friendly zone were noobs stay in academy till 1.5 mil sp. Another reason people are running away is because the moment when noobs jump out of the academy with 600k sp and they get proto stomped. No they'll be disappointed as we all have been from being lured from those trailers, this game doesn't need more people it needs more content and stuff to do. I agree and, funnily, so does CCP. They chose a soft launch specifically to avoid killing their PR just months after release and they have trouble still.
|
The-Errorist
BetaMax Beta
78
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 16:00:00 -
[5] - Quote
CCP should only do more advertising only when the controls are fixed (aim acceleration like in all console FPS), PVE, and when skirmish 3.0 are done. |
Drud Green
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
128
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 16:03:00 -
[6] - Quote
"If a game is free it's most likely garbage"
Dust is one of those garbage games, thats why people don't play.
|
da GAND
187.
192
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 16:16:00 -
[7] - Quote
Drud Green wrote:"If a game is free it's most likely garbage"
Dust is one of those garbage games, thats why people don't play.
you just don't play, plenty of people (over 4k) play still. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
757
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 16:17:00 -
[8] - Quote
just because you see a max of 5k on at once does not mean that is your entire playerbase.
Dust probably has something like 50-60k players.. hell possibly more.
Remember, alot of people don't continue playing after hitting cap also |
Vavilia Lysenko
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
199
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 16:23:00 -
[9] - Quote
NIGGSWORM wrote:As you know that your player base is only about max 5,000 players compared to other games
I'm sure CCP does know exactly how many players they have. You do not.
playerbase does not = concurrent players.
|
da GAND
187.
192
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 16:23:00 -
[10] - Quote
Knightshade Belladonna wrote:just because you see a max of 5k on at once does not mean that is your entire playerbase.
Dust probably has something like 50-60k players.. hell possibly more.
Remember, alot of people don't continue playing after hitting cap also
I dont think so, there was a time around the beginning of uprising where there was around 11k people online. So right now I would guess there are really about 30k or much much less. |
|
Paladin Sas
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
110
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 16:25:00 -
[11] - Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06EsgK4DtXk
aaaannnnnd GO |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
313
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 16:26:00 -
[12] - Quote
They have a TV Spot in the works supposedly advertisement plans end of this year... CCP David Reid announced it at fanfest this year they are also sponsoring an Icelandic born UFC fighter with the Dust brand..
It will be nice to see that full commercial when it rolls out maybe around a big winter expansion...
Edit: Damn paladin beat me to it... |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
760
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 16:29:00 -
[13] - Quote
da GAND wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:just because you see a max of 5k on at once does not mean that is your entire playerbase.
Dust probably has something like 50-60k players.. hell possibly more.
Remember, alot of people don't continue playing after hitting cap also I dont think so, there was a time around the beginning of uprising where there was around 11k people online. So right now I would guess there are really about 30k or much much less.
is there only 3 time zones in the entire world, working at the same schedules and deciding when to play video games?
Eve has over 500k playerbase , usually max online is like 45-55k
typically , about 10-15% of all players will be online at once from what I can tell with a lot of games
I kinda mis-read how you worded that... but I'm still going to keep my statement here :\ |
da GAND
187.
192
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 16:31:00 -
[14] - Quote
Knightshade Belladonna wrote:da GAND wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:just because you see a max of 5k on at once does not mean that is your entire playerbase.
Dust probably has something like 50-60k players.. hell possibly more.
Remember, alot of people don't continue playing after hitting cap also I dont think so, there was a time around the beginning of uprising where there was around 11k people online. So right now I would guess there are really about 30k or much much less. is there only 3 time zones in the entire world, working at the same schedules and deciding when to play video games? Eve has over 500k playerbase , usually max online is like 45-55k typically , about 10-15% of all players will be online at once from what I can tell with a lot of games I kinda mis-read how you worded that... but I'm still going to keep my statement here :\
hmmm you may be right lol , actually you are most likely right lol so just forget about that last post |
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
900
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 16:42:00 -
[15] - Quote
da GAND wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:da GAND wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:just because you see a max of 5k on at once does not mean that is your entire playerbase.
Dust probably has something like 50-60k players.. hell possibly more.
Remember, alot of people don't continue playing after hitting cap also I dont think so, there was a time around the beginning of uprising where there was around 11k people online. So right now I would guess there are really about 30k or much much less. is there only 3 time zones in the entire world, working at the same schedules and deciding when to play video games? Eve has over 500k playerbase , usually max online is like 45-55k typically , about 10-15% of all players will be online at once from what I can tell with a lot of games I kinda mis-read how you worded that... but I'm still going to keep my statement here :\ hmmm you may be right lol , actually you are most likely right lol so just forget about that last post You can still get accurate API data from here
Drop author ChribbaX a like if you see him. |
Fox Gaden
DUST University Ivy League
736
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 16:52:00 -
[16] - Quote
I always find it funny when someone confuses the number of players logged in at one time with the number of people who play the game.
Think about this. DUST University has over 1400 active members. (Once a month we kick anyone who has not logged on in 30 days.) If there were only 5000 people playing this game then 28% of DUST mercs would be DUST University members. You would have D-Uni squads in almost every match your played.
I think a conservative estimate of total membership could probably be gotten by multiplying the average online player count by 12, but that would still only be a rough and estimate.
Another approach might be to take the average number of people logged into DUST, divide it by the average length of time people play, and then multiply it by 24 hours.
For instance: 4500 (average on)/2 hours (average session length) x 24 hours = 54,000 players.
If you disagree with the average number of people logged in or the average session length, then plug in your own numbers and see what you get. |
da GAND
187.
195
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 17:05:00 -
[17] - Quote
Fox Gaden wrote:I always find it funny when someone confuses the number of players logged in at one time with the number of people who play the game.
Think about this. DUST University has over 1400 active members. (Once a month we kick anyone who has not logged on in 30 days.) If there were only 5000 people playing this game then 28% of DUST mercs would be DUST University members. You would have D-Uni squads in almost every match your played.
I think a conservative estimate of total membership could probably be gotten by multiplying the average online player count by 12, but that would still only be a rough and estimate.
Another approach might be to take the average number of people logged into DUST, divide it by the average length of time people play, and then multiply it by 24 hours.
For instance: 4500 (average on)/2 hours (average session length) x 24 hours = 54,000 players.
If you disagree with the average number of people logged in or the average session length, then plug in your own numbers and see what you get.
How many people you got in Dust University? Just curious doesn't have anything to do with the thread |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
967
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 17:06:00 -
[18] - Quote
NIGGSWORM wrote:As you know that your player base is only about max 5,000 players compared to other games which are worse than dust i.e COD (yes i said the forbidden name) but this problem mainly lies in Advertising dust, im pretty sure anyone that goes on the PlayStation store never really checks the FREE GAME section because if a game is free than its most likely garbage. So maybe if CCP makes a trailer to put on T.V. , i know it is expensive but we are going to increase our player count by hundreds of thousands. With this, more players buying AUR = more money for CCP. Also a noob friendly zone were noobs stay in academy till 1.5 mil sp. Another reason people are running away is because the moment when noobs jump out of the academy with 600k sp and they get proto stomped.
A big advertisement push right now would maybe add 5000 more players for a week, and create 4500 gamers that will never touch the game again.
I'd prefer to treat this game as still in beta. The main attraction of this game is almost non-existant right now. We don't have a full variety of racial Assault Rifles, or a full variety of suits & vehicles. Until then there can never be a real balancing effort, and the gameplay will remain substandard.
I'd be happy waiting a LONG time for CCP to make an advertising push. Maybe even until the game's inevitable move to PS4. |
Fox Gaden
DUST University Ivy League
737
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 17:08:00 -
[19] - Quote
da GAND wrote: How many people you got in Dust University? Just curious doesn't have anything to do with the thread
As I said, the last time I checked we were over 1400 members. |
da GAND
187.
196
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 17:11:00 -
[20] - Quote
Chunky Munkey wrote:NIGGSWORM wrote:As you know that your player base is only about max 5,000 players compared to other games which are worse than dust i.e COD (yes i said the forbidden name) but this problem mainly lies in Advertising dust, im pretty sure anyone that goes on the PlayStation store never really checks the FREE GAME section because if a game is free than its most likely garbage. So maybe if CCP makes a trailer to put on T.V. , i know it is expensive but we are going to increase our player count by hundreds of thousands. With this, more players buying AUR = more money for CCP. Also a noob friendly zone were noobs stay in academy till 1.5 mil sp. Another reason people are running away is because the moment when noobs jump out of the academy with 600k sp and they get proto stomped. A big advertisement push right now would maybe add 5000 more players for a week, and create 4500 gamers that will never touch the game again. I'd prefer to treat this game as still in beta. The main attraction of this game is almost non-existant right now. We don't have a full variety of racial Assault Rifles, or a full variety of suits & vehicles. Until then there can never be a real balancing effort, and the gameplay will remain substandard. I'd be happy waiting a LONG time for CCP to make an advertising push. Maybe even until the game's inevitable move to PS4.
don't advertise so we get noobies that get out of the academy too fast to get smashed so badly. Right now the people that are staying know how to play the game or are people that got into the game not too long ago and are learning pretty quickly. So I guess we'll start having teams that know what they are doing. |
|
Kalisi Marada
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
1
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 17:13:00 -
[21] - Quote
They need to do something ASAP if they want to survive. A soon as Planetside 2 releases on PS4 I can see a mass exodus to a game thats free to play, does not require 6 months of SP farming to be even partially competitive, the graphics will be better, more players and larger maps, not to forget the actual territorial conquests. I have only been playing Dust about 3 months now and I do love it even if I die 10 times in a match. CCP needs to start getting serious about the player base. Advertising is not the only way to get exposure to the game. If they made additional content such as new battle maps maps, new equipment or weapons instead of just nerfing and tweeking the existing stuff, It might just get exposure by word of mouth. If there was something exciting to talk about. |
da GAND
187.
196
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 17:15:00 -
[22] - Quote
Kalisi Marada wrote:They need to do something ASAP if they want to survive. A soon as Planetside 2 releases on PS4 I can see a mass exodus to a game thats free to play, does not require 6 months of SP farming to be even partially competitive, the graphics will be better, more players and larger maps, not to forget the actual territorial conquests. I have only been playing Dust about 3 months now and I do love it even if I die 10 times in a match. CCP needs to start getting serious about the player base. Advertising is not the only way to get exposure to the game. If they made additional content such as new battle maps maps, new equipment or weapons instead of just nerfing and tweeking the existing stuff, It might just get exposure by word of mouth. If there was something exciting to talk about.
hehehehehe if only...... |
Yan Darn
DUST University Ivy League
1
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 17:31:00 -
[23] - Quote
I hate to say it, but as a new player myself, I know 50% of the reason I'm playing right now is because I'm an EVE fan (not player anymore - stupid dying PCs....), I'm familiar with EVE style fittings, Skill progression and the market.
I know there are well rounded game mechanics and content in EVE e.g. Stealth/scanner mechanics and racial variants for all ship types as well as multiple Tiers (I.e ships with different bonuses - not just extra slots and CPU/pg). I can also grasp how amazing this game could be when EVE players have reason to care about the game. Basically half the reason I play is faith.
New players have no reason to have faith (hell...EVE/DUST vets seem to struggle to find reasons if general discussion is anything to go by).
I imagine most new players will say what my friend said when he saw me playing - 'this looks like a cross between halo and battlefield...but ****'. |
da GAND
187.
201
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 17:39:00 -
[24] - Quote
Yan Darn wrote:I hate to say it, but as a new player myself, I know 50% of the reason I'm playing right now is because I'm an EVE fan (not player anymore - stupid dying PCs....), I'm familiar with EVE style fittings, Skill progression and the market.
I know there are well rounded game mechanics and content in EVE e.g. Stealth/scanner mechanics and racial variants for all ship types as well as multiple Tiers (I.e ships with different bonuses - not just extra slots and CPU/pg). I can also grasp how amazing this game could be when EVE players have reason to care about the game. Basically half the reason I play is faith.
New players have no reason to have faith (hell...EVE/DUST vets seem to struggle to find reasons if general discussion is anything to go by).
I imagine most new players will say what my friend said when he saw me playing - 'this looks like a cross between halo and battlefield...but ****'.
yup, as harsh as the reviews of this game are they are all right. |
Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
184
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 17:50:00 -
[25] - Quote
Who would you advertise to?
This game is terrible as an FPS, let's be honest it's just bad in this capacity. Glacial fixes and grinding skill system really kills it here along with hit detection and aiming.
Eve vets will hate the fact that the game has so little to do with Eve, no player trading and the same boring pvp mode OVER & OVER.
MMO fans? The new player experience will demoralize them as there is no content for new players beyond 10 matches in Academy.
You'd have to aim for people with hopes and dreams that this game could turn into something special. They would have to be willing to wait YEARS and not get sidetracked with other games. |
da GAND
187.
201
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 17:56:00 -
[26] - Quote
Galvan Nized wrote:Who would you advertise to?
This game is terrible as an FPS, let's be honest it's just bad in this capacity. Glacial fixes and grinding skill system really kills it here along with hit detection and aiming.
Eve vets will hate the fact that the game has so little to do with Eve, no player trading and the same boring pvp mode OVER & OVER.
MMO fans? The new player experience will demoralize them as there is no content for new players beyond 10 matches in Academy.
You'd have to aim for people with hopes and dreams that this game could turn into something special. They would have to be willing to wait YEARS and not get sidetracked with other games.
oh man now you've made me more depressed, now I'll be taking an even longer brake today than the one I already planned on today. |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
314
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 18:28:00 -
[27] - Quote
First of all, it's not just 5k players...that's just the number of people logged on at a certain point in time.
But yeah, CCP isn't great when it comes to advertising their games...same thing counts for EVE tbh. I think most people playing it got into it through word of mouth. |
Supernus Gigas
Art of Assassination
2
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 18:32:00 -
[28] - Quote
Kalisi Marada wrote:They need to do something ASAP if they want to survive. A soon as Planetside 2 releases on PS4 I can see a mass exodus to a game thats free to play, does not require 6 months of SP farming to be even partially competitive, the graphics will be better, more players and larger maps, not to forget the actual territorial conquests. I have only been playing Dust about 3 months now and I do love it even if I die 10 times in a match. CCP needs to start getting serious about the player base. Advertising is not the only way to get exposure to the game. If they made additional content such as new battle maps maps, new equipment or weapons instead of just nerfing and tweeking the existing stuff, It might just get exposure by word of mouth. If there was something exciting to talk about.
Sure, it's not unreasonable to assume some players will drop Dust in lieu of Planetside 2, but you have to keep in mind that people are capable of playing different games at the same time. I know for me personally, I currently play around 5 different games right now, and will probably add Planetside 2 to that list when it's available, but that does not mean I will stop playing Dust. I really like this game and look forward to its improvements. |
Darth Fett123
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
30
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 18:55:00 -
[29] - Quote
Drud Green wrote:"If a game is free it's most likely garbage"
Dust is one of those garbage games, thats why people don't play.
Still better than the WarZ |
Skihids
Bullet Cluster
1756
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 20:00:00 -
[30] - Quote
We are still a year or more away from a real launch so I'd expect the advertising to wait until then.
That's the same reason I find the concept of "High level play" incompatable with DUST.
The game is both incomplete and unbalanced. You have to be crazy to think you could run a stable competion environment in DUST at the moment. Nerfs, buffs, and new equipment constantly upset the playing field. |
|
|
|
|
Pages: [1] 2 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |