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Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.29 11:16:00 -
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I don't know if this is being talked about, but for the love of god can someone please tell the art team or weapon guys to tone down the muzzle flash on a few weapons?
In particular the AR (when using ADS) and HMG (all the time) are so bright it's actually difficult to make out targets as they move, especially in a dark environment. Just making it a little less extreme isn't going to be game breaking or anything and would be a hell of a lot easier on the eyes, thanks. |
We are 138
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
164
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Posted - 2013.07.29 11:26:00 -
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Have you seen the flash on a SMG? Its like a strobe light |
Nalhe Saldana
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
62
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Posted - 2013.07.29 11:26:00 -
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Hey Himiko, read this!
Use better topics |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1047
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Posted - 2013.07.29 22:46:00 -
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Nalhe Saldana wrote:Hey Himiko, read this!
Use better topics
I heard a rumor that you're a terrible player and you have no districts.
Any truth to this? |
DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc
Dark Taboo
1714
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Posted - 2013.07.29 22:51:00 -
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Actually want more lol It looks cool in my opinion :P
Seriously, this is only issue if you either have your brightness set up to high or you play in a dark room, that will actually bust up your vision.
This is a non issue on CCP's part. Just tone down your brightness levels in system options. |
dday3six
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
140
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Posted - 2013.07.29 22:53:00 -
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I think a few big issues with aiming are that the crosshair and/or iron sights on some weapons utterly suck and between muzzle flash and everything else happening on the screen it's easy to lose not only your crosshair but also the tracer of the rounds leaving your weapon. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1049
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Posted - 2013.07.29 22:55:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Actually want more lol It looks cool in my opinion :P
Seriously, this is only issue if you either have your brightness set up to high or you play in a dark room, that will actually bust up your vision.
This is a non issue on CCP's part. Just tone down your brightness levels in system options.
Brightness levels have nothing to do with it.
The muzzle flash actually covers the entirety of the screen, and enemy dropsuits. It is the color levels.
By adjusting brightness you make the dropsuits brighter as well as the muzzle flash. Adding value to both does not change the situation. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1488
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Posted - 2013.07.29 23:04:00 -
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I have had zero problem with the muzzle flash obscuring my vision and my glasses are 6 years out of date, maybe you just desperately need to see an optometrist |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6732
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Posted - 2013.07.29 23:07:00 -
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Pictures help if you can to help describe the problem its hard to sell something is wrong that I myself don't find an issue(s) with.
Also your settings check them and post them if you get the pictures in. |
FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
317
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Posted - 2013.07.29 23:08:00 -
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Agreed 100%, can't see sh!t with my assault scrambler rifle.
-XOXO |
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Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1050
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Posted - 2013.07.29 23:48:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Pictures help if you can to help describe the problem its hard to sell something is wrong that I myself don't find an issue(s) with.
Also your settings check them and post them if you get the pictures in.
I don't have the proper equipment to take a decent screenshot, but here is something King Kobrah posted a while back that should make the situation fairly apparent.
King Kobrah wrote:I've come in first place in PC matches against almost every single relevant corp in dust 514. What have you accomplished? Are you really going to sit here and tell me you DONT lose sight of your target when you shoot? I want you to take a look at this image and tell me you can still see the target's dropsuit. http://i.imgur.com/2MCdABk.jpg
So as you can see, adjusting brightness wouldn't do anything. You'd just make the muzzle flash itself brighter. That's not solving the problem, really.
I can tell you from experience that the HMG muzzle flash is just as bright and covers even more of the screen, regardless of ADS. |
Monsku Kifini
Rautaleijona
Top Men.
85
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Posted - 2013.07.30 00:24:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:
I can tell you from experience that the HMG muzzle flash is just as bright and covers even more of the screen, regardless of ADS.
Agreed |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
911
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Posted - 2013.07.30 00:27:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I don't know if this is being talked about, but for the love of god can someone please tell the art team or weapon guys to tone down the muzzle flash on a few weapons?
In particular the AR (when using ADS) and HMG (all the time) are so bright it's actually difficult to make out targets as they move, especially in a dark environment. Just making it a little less extreme isn't going to be game breaking or anything and would be a hell of a lot easier on the eyes, thanks.
I was thinking more AScR that thing lights up half the map. |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
396
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Posted - 2013.07.30 00:30:00 -
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Chevron transparency, while we're in the neighborhood. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1053
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Posted - 2013.07.30 00:30:00 -
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I could believe that. I don't really use it myself, but considering what they've done with these other two weapons it makes sense. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3359
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Posted - 2013.07.30 00:32:00 -
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Mass Driver can be a pain sometimes too and I'm surprised someone hasn't gotten a seizure from using the Forge Gun yet. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1053
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Posted - 2013.07.30 00:35:00 -
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Well forge shakes, but it doesn't really flash. In previous builds it made the ambient flash a bit, not really this one. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6738
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Posted - 2013.07.30 00:37:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Pictures help if you can to help describe the problem its hard to sell something is wrong that I myself don't find an issue(s) with.
Also your settings check them and post them if you get the pictures in. I don't have the proper equipment to take a decent screenshot, but here is something King Kobrah posted a while back that should make the situation fairly apparent. King Kobrah wrote:I've come in first place in PC matches against almost every single relevant corp in dust 514. What have you accomplished? Are you really going to sit here and tell me you DONT lose sight of your target when you shoot? I want you to take a look at this image and tell me you can still see the target's dropsuit. http://i.imgur.com/2MCdABk.jpg So as you can see, adjusting brightness wouldn't do anything. You'd just make the muzzle flash itself brighter. That's not solving the problem, really. I can tell you from experience that the HMG muzzle flash is just as bright and covers even more of the screen, regardless of ADS.
Thanks for the picture forwarding. |
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CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
176
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Posted - 2013.07.30 00:42:00 -
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You mentioned several other weapons. What are the chances that you (or someone else) could get screenshots and video highlighting as many of these weapons with the excessive muzzle flash?
CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1488
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Posted - 2013.07.30 00:45:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:You mentioned several other weapons. What are the chances that you (or someone else) could get screenshots showing as many of these weapons with the excessive muzzle flash?
I would ask for video demonstrating the muzzle flash and how much it obscures things
Asking for screenshots leads to cherry picking the one frame that best supports their claim even if it truly is only 1 frame out of 30 that obscures anything |
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6738
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Posted - 2013.07.30 00:46:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:You mentioned several other weapons. What are the chances that you (or someone else) could get screenshots showing as many of these weapons with the excessive muzzle flash? I would ask for video demonstrating the muzzle flash and how much it obscures things Asking for screenshots leads to cherry picking the one frame that best supports their claim even if it truly is only 1 frame out of 30 that obscures anything
Video that focuses on showing this would do as well. |
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CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
176
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Posted - 2013.07.30 00:46:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:You mentioned several other weapons. What are the chances that you (or someone else) could get screenshots showing as many of these weapons with the excessive muzzle flash? I would ask for video demonstrating the muzzle flash and how much it obscures things Asking for screenshots leads to cherry picking the one frame that best supports their claim even if it truly is only 1 frame out of 30 that obscures anything
Fair point. Though why not both?
CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites
@CCP_Logibro |
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1488
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Posted - 2013.07.30 00:48:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Delta 749 wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:You mentioned several other weapons. What are the chances that you (or someone else) could get screenshots showing as many of these weapons with the excessive muzzle flash? I would ask for video demonstrating the muzzle flash and how much it obscures things Asking for screenshots leads to cherry picking the one frame that best supports their claim even if it truly is only 1 frame out of 30 that obscures anything Fair point. Though why not both?
Cant see why anyone would object to having both presented |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1488
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Posted - 2013.07.30 00:50:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Delta 749 wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:You mentioned several other weapons. What are the chances that you (or someone else) could get screenshots showing as many of these weapons with the excessive muzzle flash? I would ask for video demonstrating the muzzle flash and how much it obscures things Asking for screenshots leads to cherry picking the one frame that best supports their claim even if it truly is only 1 frame out of 30 that obscures anything Video that focuses on showing this would do as well.
Yes but with video and firing say half a clip to demonstrate muzzle flash you get a much better idea of how much it actually obscures over a single frame screenshot |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1054
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Posted - 2013.07.30 01:04:00 -
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Glad everyone is so enthusiastic, but my HD Hauppauge is dead. Wish it wasn't, but yea.
Any other volunteers? |
General John Ripper
The Generals
EoN.
1953
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Posted - 2013.07.30 01:37:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:You mentioned several other weapons. What are the chances that you (or someone else) could get screenshots showing as many of these weapons with the excessive muzzle flash? I would ask for video demonstrating the muzzle flash and how much it obscures things Asking for screenshots leads to cherry picking the one frame that best supports their claim even if it truly is only 1 frame out of 30 that obscures anything
how many fps does this game run at? Isn't the default around 30? 30 frames would equal to one second. It would be awfully hard to capture just the right millisecond....
Lol just messing with you but someone should make videos of this. I agree.
Okay I am done with this post. |
Avinash Decker
BetaMax.
62
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Posted - 2013.07.30 01:51:00 -
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I would have to agree the muzzle flash is annoying , especially on the assault scrambler rifle . |
Astral Ace
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2013.07.30 02:00:00 -
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I'm going to be that guy and say that the muzzle flash on the HMG is fine. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1056
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Posted - 2013.07.30 02:05:00 -
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Astral Ace wrote:I'm going to be that guy and say that the muzzle flash on the HMG is fine.
So you would rather aim via chevron than model? |
DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc
Dark Taboo
1716
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Posted - 2013.07.30 02:11:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:Delta 749 wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:You mentioned several other weapons. What are the chances that you (or someone else) could get screenshots showing as many of these weapons with the excessive muzzle flash? I would ask for video demonstrating the muzzle flash and how much it obscures things Asking for screenshots leads to cherry picking the one frame that best supports their claim even if it truly is only 1 frame out of 30 that obscures anything how many fps does this game run at? Isn't the default around 30? 30 frames would equal to one second. It would be awfully hard to capture just the right millisecond.... Lol just messing with you but someone should make videos of this. I agree. Okay I am done with this post.
Geny^ brings up a fair point.
Are you sure that you are not severely dropping frames? Possibly causing frames to be on your screen longer than they should? It may be you internet connection. |
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CCP Wolfman
C C P
C C P Alliance
809
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Posted - 2013.07.30 02:26:00 -
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If you give me a list and I can get them checked over |
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Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1056
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Posted - 2013.07.30 02:57:00 -
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Going in game and checking them out, I would say the largest priorities go in this order.
1. Scrambler Rifle
2. HMG
3. AR (purely when using ADS)
The Scrambler Rifle is just insane, it's all over the place with its brightness. Something needs to change there, drastically.
The HMG is a close second. The muzzle flash blocks most of the predicted killzone, so you have to track via chevron. This can become incredibly difficult when multiple targets are on screen as the chevron is the same color as the muzzle flash and everything starts to bleed together.
The AR issue, while annoying me at first, seems actually pretty minor compared to the other two when I looked at them side by side. The issue is primarily during ADS, and it's that the muzzle flash is pure color with no translucency, so it blocks everything you are aiming at. It's a small area that the muzzle effects, so most people know when the target has moved from that area, but when you have micro strafers that do very quick movements inside that area they can become an issue to track.
The AR ADS is primarily used from range, so the farther you are fighting at, the more that small muzzle flash area is actually effecting you in combat.
While a bright muzzle flash is certainly dramatic, it is not at all useful for the shooter. I think we can probably find a happy medium somewhere, perhaps with either an adjustment to the rate at which the flash occurs, or from the overall translucency of the flash itself? |
NIGGSWORM
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
83
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Posted - 2013.07.30 03:25:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:You mentioned several other weapons. What are the chances that you (or someone else) could get screenshots and video highlighting as many of these weapons with the excessive muzzle flash?
have you played this game? (say in black old lady voice to increase the affect) |
Noc Tempre
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
2317
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Posted - 2013.07.30 03:33:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Pictures help if you can to help describe the problem its hard to sell something is wrong that I myself don't find an issue(s) with.
Also your settings check them and post them if you get the pictures in.
You never find an issue with anything but the critics. Enjoy you game, glad it's everything you ever wanted and more. |
Musta Tornius
Cannonfodder PMC
539
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Posted - 2013.07.30 07:52:00 -
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I can personally atest to this problem with the HMG. I've been asking several CPM members if they could nudge the devs about it. I'm glad it's getting some attention.
A lot of the time I have to track the enemy by their chevrons which is surely not how you're supposed to aim in this game. The flash is just so bright and large that it completely obscures the player models. Not all the time, though. It depends on the background colour etc to how bad it is. |
Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
403
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Posted - 2013.07.30 08:17:00 -
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as a heavy i can agree with the muzzle flash of the HMG, and because of the muzzle flash i tend NOT to ADS and just shoot from the hip because that way i can still see my target whereas with the ADS i can't see the target anymore. |
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CCP Wolfman
C C P
C C P Alliance
896
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Posted - 2013.08.02 07:13:00 -
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I've not seen the new ones yet but these have been updated for 1.4 now. |
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Mamertine Son
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
29
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Posted - 2013.08.02 07:27:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:I've not seen the new ones yet but these have been updated for 1.4 now.
Thx a bundle |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1066
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Posted - 2013.08.02 11:11:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:I've not seen the new ones yet but these have been updated for 1.4 now.
Between some muzzle tuning and the aiming update, 1.4 looks to be turning out rather solid.
Mucho appreciato. |
CrotchGrab 360
187.
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Posted - 2013.08.02 11:13:00 -
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firing every gun should be the equivalent of being repaired on MAG.
you know how bright that is! |
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DeadlyAztec11
Red Star Jr.
EoN.
2072
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Posted - 2013.08.29 17:22:00 -
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I'm gonna miss the muzzle flash.
Darn you muzzle flash nerf! |
Anmol Singh
the unholy legion of darkstar
DARKSTAR ARMY
318
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Posted - 2013.08.29 17:31:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:You mentioned several other weapons. What are the chances that you (or someone else) could get screenshots and video highlighting as many of these weapons with the excessive muzzle flash?
HOW ABOUT YOU PLAY THE GAME AND FIND OUT!!! |
Smooth Assassin
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
96
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Posted - 2013.08.29 18:18:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I don't know if this is being talked about, but for the love of god can someone please tell the art team or weapon guys to tone down the muzzle flash on a few weapons?
In particular the AR (when using ADS) and HMG (all the time) are so bright it's actually difficult to make out targets as they move, especially in a dark environment. Just making it a little less extreme isn't going to be game breaking or anything and would be a hell of a lot easier on the eyes, thanks.
LOL i don't even notice. |
Necandi Brasil
Conspiratus Immortalis
Covert Intervention
312
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Posted - 2013.08.29 19:31:00 -
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I once fought against a Heavy in a tunnel... I was with my alt and a ScrRifle... Nedless to say I had to flee cause I couldn't see him... Only his eyes ... Red eyes... |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1397
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Posted - 2013.08.30 06:04:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I don't know if this is being talked about, but for the love of god can someone please tell the art team or weapon guys to tone down the muzzle flash on a few weapons?
In particular the AR (when using ADS) and HMG (all the time) are so bright it's actually difficult to make out targets as they move, especially in a dark environment. Just making it a little less extreme isn't going to be game breaking or anything and would be a hell of a lot easier on the eyes, thanks. LOL i don't even notice.
You have to be able to aim first. |
dustwaffle
Ill Omens
409
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Posted - 2013.08.30 07:10:00 -
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I see unholy legion of darkstar have a stupid non-contributing post quota they need to fill on a daily basis once school's out for their members. 
Sir Dukey wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:You mentioned several other weapons. What are the chances that you (or someone else) could get screenshots and video highlighting as many of these weapons with the excessive muzzle flash? have you played this game? (say in black old lady voice to increase the affect)
Anmol Singh wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:You mentioned several other weapons. What are the chances that you (or someone else) could get screenshots and video highlighting as many of these weapons with the excessive muzzle flash? HOW ABOUT YOU PLAY THE GAME AND FIND OUT!!! |
FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
476
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Posted - 2013.08.30 11:47:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:I see unholy legion of darkstar have a stupid non-contributing post quota they need to fill on a daily basis once school's out for their members. Sir Dukey wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:You mentioned several other weapons. What are the chances that you (or someone else) could get screenshots and video highlighting as many of these weapons with the excessive muzzle flash? have you played this game? (say in black old lady voice to increase the affect) Anmol Singh wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:You mentioned several other weapons. What are the chances that you (or someone else) could get screenshots and video highlighting as many of these weapons with the excessive muzzle flash? HOW ABOUT YOU PLAY THE GAME AND FIND OUT!!!
The effects can be seen so obvious by just playing the game. I don't see how that's non-contributing? Asking for pictures/videos of something that's not a glitch or bug is just silly...
CCP do we play the same game?
-XOXO
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