So dust needs to be its own game before it can become something else, CCP knows how to dream big but empty words don't mean a thing. You need to start from the bottom in order to get to the roof.

As long as Dust 514 remains on PS3 you wont see any large maps, higher details or anything in terms of graphical improvements (I'm talking 2013 standard here, not 5 year old tech) due to it's massive hardware limitations. So yea, there's that.

Then again, those are the least of Dust 514th problems.

That's not an accurate depiction of the scenario at all to be honest.

BF3 has maps that are just as big with smoother gameplay and better graphics. Albeit only 12 a side.

MAG had modestly large maps (Domincation mode) with 8 times the players and smoother gameplay and hit detection.

Both running on the same hardware. It's not just the hardware that comes into play, it's the game engine and the code that is applied to it to create the game.

at what point do you realise there is a process going on? we're on the stairs to the first floor as we speak, though i have to say the basement was rough going at some points...

Are we really? They showed jets back in 2009 and large maps in 2012, exactly how are we at the stairs? more like we took steps back. Where is the trophies that has been promised back in 09? They even promised other stuff this year at fanfest you think we will have it by the end of the year as they said? I have high hopes for this game but at the end of the day you cant really put it on the same page as other great games. Its unfair to compare dust to bf3 but sense dice took over StarWars lets see how long it takes for them to throw out a "full release game" that has everything in it.

I love these kinds of threads. People don't know jack about innovation.

If the whiners had it their way the iphones of today would have tactile keyboards like blackberries, They just don't understand, if it isn't battlefield or cod how can it be good?

If CCP is making the game I THINK they are making this will be a unicorn among FPS. If they invest in enough interaction between EVE and DUST this game could be incredible beyond measure. No one wants to wait for it. Most don't have a clue what is possible. I like the idea of POCOS control by dust mercs and the drone PVE aspect. I liked the idea for buying/manning turrets vs eve pilots. It really is whatever the two communities can dream up.

Thread #(Insert Number Here) explaining why Dust 514 is (insert positive/negative adjective here).

Why does this exist?

Remember when we had the installations tab and we were able to purchase installations from the market for battle deployment??

Me neither.

Yea!? when is this gonna happen? when i grow old and die? i havent finished high school for gods sake. This game has been in development way before they showed off in 2009 and look where we are at now. Why didn't we test jets back in beta? why didn't we hear/see anything about the commander?

i havent finished high school for gods sake.

Dust is a great game, that's why I log in everyday to play it.

Explains a lot

I can wait ima a patient person (but not everyone is made the same way).

Are we really? They showed jets back in 2009 and large maps in 2012, exactly how are we at the stairs? more like we took steps back. Where is the trophies that has been promised back in 09? They even promised other stuff this year at fanfest you think we will have it by the end of the year as they said? I have high hopes for this game but at the end of the day you cant really put it on the same page as other great games. Its unfair to compare dust to bf3 but sense dice took over StarWars lets see how long it takes for them to throw out a "full release game" that has everything in it.

Then those people leave, never to return, or they come back.

No biggie

I being saying this for months... other games uses exactly the same hardware, and they seen to manage fine. The problem with Dust 514 is EvE, and CCP obsession to try replicate the development progress that they used 10 years ago.

But is a different gaming era now, people wants MORE, and FASTER this days....the sooner CCP realize this, the more successful Dust 514 is going to be.

Again, that was all made in an engine unsuited to this platform, and they had to toss it all and start over because you can't just "port stuff" over to an entirely new engine.

So much self-pwnage.
If they just realized what miserable piece of cr*p the PS3 is tech wise.

I love these kinds of threads. People don't know jack about innovation.

If the whiners had it their way the iphones of today would have tactile keyboards like blackberries, They just don't understand, if it isn't battlefield or cod how can it be good?

If CCP is making the game I THINK they are making this will be a unicorn among FPS. If they invest in enough interaction between EVE and DUST this game could be incredible beyond measure. No one wants to wait for it. Most don't have a clue what is possible. I like the idea of POCOS control by dust mercs and the drone PVE aspect. I liked the idea for buying/manning turrets vs eve pilots. It really is whatever the two communities can dream up.

As long as Dust 514 remains on PS3 you wont see any large maps, higher details or anything in terms of graphical improvements (I'm talking 2013 standard here, not 5 year old tech) due to it's massive hardware limitations. So yea, there's that.

Then again, those are the least of Dust 514th problems.

Noticing a trend....most of the reasoning behind all the "this game sucks because (insert any other typical FPS) has more of this and better that" Maybe if you stop comparing this game to those. If you want BF3.... well go play BF3 and if you like fish go reel in that other crap or should I say carp:D

You going to pay the money ccp needs to pay its devs all by yourself?

People who can't view it objectively often compare it to BF3 because they don't have the intellect to judge it on its own merit. And when they do, they judge prematurely or unfairly. Dust is here for the long haul. It only appeals to a niche audience. So if you're not into it, that's fine. There's other games, that you mentioned, that will be out shortly to get your attention.

You probably suck anyway and get tea bagged often...it must suck when you suck...

Like many others that play, I have not paid for Aurum in this game (yet). Your game is subsidised by my subscription to EVE.

The people that leave because of tiny reasons are not likely to come back, while the people that stick with it will most likely continue to do so.

No biggie

I like the game so much that I donated a little over $200. Now what do you expect from a free to play games vs a paid game? Seriously? Just because YOU don't think dust isn't a good game doesn't mean other people agree with you. It's YOUR OPINION, NOT MINE OR THE COMMUNITIES. And if it's so bad like you claim it is than why you're still posting? Gtfo

As long as Dust 514 remains on PS3 you wont see any large maps, higher details or anything in terms of graphical improvements (I'm talking 2013 standard here, not 5 year old tech) due to it's massive hardware limitations. So yea, there's that.

Then again, those are the least of Dust 514th problems.

I remember back on close beta, some of the maps were huge. I remember playing that one map that MCC has to land. Our Current map size is ok unless they will bring back the old map that you transition from the other to the next. Also, I hate running.

Are you reading me post right? i dont state that i hate the game i just said that the game needs to be "unique". Just because it connects to eve/lets eve players rain down orbital strikes from space doesnt make the game "unique". Good games have their own things. Battlefield: Amazing graphics/large maps. Cod: Fast past/a lot of player base. Now dust needs to make its own set of role. Right now the one thing "unique" in dust i can think of is the way you can socialise ( none of the console games i've played does it like dust).

Yea!? when is this gonna happen? when i grow old and die? i havent finished high school for gods sake. This game has been in development way before they showed off in 2009 and look where we are at now. Why didn't we test jets back in beta? why didn't we hear/see anything about the commander?

Dust 514 is hard for people to enjoy, and even for "Vets". I've sometimes asked myself "What's the Point?" CCP needs to get us to do things in EVE , sure we have FW but they are no different from instant battles. Right now we're stuck in the same position we've been in since closed beta.

I like the game so much that I donated a little over $200. Now what do you expect from a free to play games vs a paid game? Seriously? Just because YOU don't think dust isn't a good game doesn't mean other people agree with you. It's YOUR OPINION, NOT MINE OR THE COMMUNITIES. And if it's so bad like you claim it is than why you're still posting? Gtfo

I believe he is referring to the Unreal Engine; not the ps3 hardware. As they have been saying the ps3 has great hardware for a console but is a ***** to program for; so it isn't the system hardware cause we have seen some really amazing games on ps3.

If you don't like the ps3 why own one anyway? Don't like it go get a PC or Xbox and go away. :p