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Gloomy Cobra
Hostile Acquisition Inc
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Posted - 2013.07.29 06:44:00 -
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Dust isnt a great game like many other out there because its not UNIQUE (key word). People can easily compare it to battlefield because of its large maps, but to be honest dusts largest map isnt even close to the regular big maps that bf3 has (not the armored kill dlc cuz those are way bigger). If you go back and look at the videos back in fanfest 2012 or before it, you can see how dust could be that one game that anyone can like. Back when MAG was coming out a lot of people wanted to play it because of its large pvp (it was the only console game that was that big - UNIQUE). So dust needs to be its own game before it can become something else, CCP knows how to dream big but empty words don't mean a thing. You need to start from the bottom in order to get to the roof. Wheres the large maps? Wheres the eve/dust interactions? Sure orbital strikes, but thats not unique cuz dust players can do it without eve ships. "we can easily do dust players attacking titans" less talk more doing ccp. |
Gloomy Cobra
Hostile Acquisition Inc
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Posted - 2013.07.29 09:42:00 -
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Billi Gene wrote:Gloomy Cobra wrote:So dust needs to be its own game before it can become something else, CCP knows how to dream big but empty words don't mean a thing. You need to start from the bottom in order to get to the roof. at what point do you realise there is a process going on? we're on the stairs to the first floor as we speak, though i have to say the basement was rough going at some points...
Are we really? They showed jets back in 2009 and large maps in 2012, exactly how are we at the stairs? more like we took steps back. Where is the trophies that has been promised back in 09? They even promised other stuff this year at fanfest you think we will have it by the end of the year as they said? I have high hopes for this game but at the end of the day you cant really put it on the same page as other great games. Its unfair to compare dust to bf3 but sense dice took over StarWars lets see how long it takes for them to throw out a "full release game" that has everything in it. |
Gloomy Cobra
Hostile Acquisition Inc
The Superpowers
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Posted - 2013.07.29 10:32:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:I love these kinds of threads. People don't know jack about innovation.
If the whiners had it their way the iphones of today would have tactile keyboards like blackberries, They just don't understand, if it isn't battlefield or cod how can it be good?
If CCP is making the game I THINK they are making this will be a unicorn among FPS. If they invest in enough interaction between EVE and DUST this game could be incredible beyond measure. No one wants to wait for it. Most don't have a clue what is possible. I like the idea of POCOS control by dust mercs and the drone PVE aspect. I liked the idea for buying/manning turrets vs eve pilots. It really is whatever the two communities can dream up.
Yea!? when is this gonna happen? when i grow old and die? i havent finished high school for gods sake. This game has been in development way before they showed off in 2009 and look where we are at now. Why didn't we test jets back in beta? why didn't we hear/see anything about the commander? |
Gloomy Cobra
Hostile Acquisition Inc
The Superpowers
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Posted - 2013.07.29 12:11:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:Gloomy Cobra wrote:i havent finished high school for gods sake. Explains a lot
Ha Ha Ha you are funny. Im just saying, eve didn't die and wont because its on pc. I want this game to succeed but ccp is just going about it the wrong way, half of the stuff we "should've have" are not in and are supposed to be getting it by the end of this year or after the year. MAG had large maps with a lot of players not the best graphics, but who cares bout that if the game playes right and is good. Bf3 also has large maps and great graphics but with less players. What does dust got? none of the two. I can wait ima a patient person (but not everyone is made the same way). |
Gloomy Cobra
Hostile Acquisition Inc
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Posted - 2013.07.29 12:23:00 -
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They got the art and the designs... Why not just make em on the unreal engine agian, as i heard unreal engine is the easiest engine to use. |
Gloomy Cobra
Hostile Acquisition Inc
The Superpowers
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Posted - 2013.07.29 12:24:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:Gloomy Cobra wrote:I can wait ima a patient person (but not everyone is made the same way). Then those people leave, never to return, or they come back. No biggie
You going to pay the money ccp needs to pay its devs all by yourself? |
Gloomy Cobra
Hostile Acquisition Inc
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Posted - 2013.07.30 04:54:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:Noticing a trend....most of the reasoning behind all the "this game sucks because (insert any other typical FPS) has more of this and better that" Maybe if you stop comparing this game to those. If you want BF3.... well go play BF3 and if you like fish go reel in that other crap or should I say carp:D
umm. it cant be helped, everyone and anyone will make those comparisons. People compare dust to bf3 more than cod because thats what the game is closer too. Now if it was more like ps2, will everyone will be comparing it to ps2.
With the ps4 coming out and other great tittles like THE DIVISION (which has a lot of the player interaction that ccp is planining on doing) This game will be the shadow to those light. Now the point of this post was to encourge ccp to make this game "unique".
This game cant really be compared to bf3 beacuse its modern shooter vs syfi but with Starwars battlefront in development Dust is gonna have harder road to travel. Especialy if it comes on ps3 |
Gloomy Cobra
Hostile Acquisition Inc
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Posted - 2013.07.30 06:11:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:People who can't view it objectively often compare it to BF3 because they don't have the intellect to judge it on its own merit. And when they do, they judge prematurely or unfairly. Dust is here for the long haul. It only appeals to a niche audience. So if you're not into it, that's fine. There's other games, that you mentioned, that will be out shortly to get your attention.
You probably suck anyway and get tea bagged often...it must suck when you suck...
LOLOLOOOL!!! I have spent almost all me sp on the dropships (9mil) and i use lvl 1 logi (minmitar) and hold my own ground in battle plus i why the hell would you bring "you suck" point here? Just becuase someone says something negative about a game doesnt mean cuz they suck. Now i do plan on getting good games, and i do love what does is trying to become but the point im trying to bring is that "at the rate its going, we wont get to the good part of dust as ccp plans". I love dust but people like, are just WOW. |
Gloomy Cobra
Hostile Acquisition Inc
The Superpowers
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Posted - 2013.07.30 06:18:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:Gloomy Cobra wrote:dustwaffle wrote:Gloomy Cobra wrote:I can wait ima a patient person (but not everyone is made the same way). Then those people leave, never to return, or they come back. No biggie You going to pay the money ccp needs to pay its devs all by yourself? Like many others that play, I have not paid for Aurum in this game (yet). Your game is subsidised by my subscription to EVE. The people that leave because of tiny reasons are not likely to come back, while the people that stick with it will most likely continue to do so. No biggie
Honestly i acutally hoped dust to do a kickstarter before it got in development. I dont know if the reason they are slow is because of the money or just hardware (and experince) problem but the major problem i have with ccp is them promising something and not brining it. Dust would've neem a whole different game if it had the commander laying orders, big maps where everyone has their roles, ect. |
Gloomy Cobra
Hostile Acquisition Inc
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Posted - 2013.07.30 07:06:00 -
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FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:I like the game so much that I donated a little over $200. Now what do you expect from a free to play games vs a paid game? Seriously? Just because YOU don't think dust isn't a good game doesn't mean other people agree with you. It's YOUR OPINION, NOT MINE OR THE COMMUNITIES. And if it's so bad like you claim it is than why you're still posting? Gtfo
Are you reading me post right? i dont state that i hate the game i just said that the game needs to be "unique". Just because it connects to eve/lets eve players rain down orbital strikes from space doesnt make the game "unique". Good games have their own things. Battlefield: Amazing graphics/large maps. Cod: Fast past/a lot of player base. Now dust needs to make its own set of role. Right now the one thing "unique" in dust i can think of is the way you can socialise ( none of the console games i've played does it like dust). |
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Gloomy Cobra
Hostile Acquisition Inc
The Superpowers
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Posted - 2013.07.30 08:42:00 -
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TiMeSpLiT--TeR wrote:Calroon DeVil wrote:As long as Dust 514 remains on PS3 you wont see any large maps, higher details or anything in terms of graphical improvements (I'm talking 2013 standard here, not 5 year old tech) due to it's massive hardware limitations. So yea, there's that.
Then again, those are the least of Dust 514th problems. I remember back on close beta, some of the maps were huge. I remember playing that one map that MCC has to land. Our Current map size is ok unless they will bring back the old map that you transition from the other to the next. Also, I hate running.
And this is where ccp is making this harder for themselves. The dropships main role (to transport) is useless with these small maps, and so sense transporting people from places is not a factor us pilots only choice is to have gunners and take our chances of getting killed by forges. Also i dont see why they didnt implant skrimish 3.0 (improved 1.0 as they claimed) it makes perfect sense. |
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