So dust needs to be its own game before it can become something else, CCP knows how to dream big but empty words don't mean a thing. You need to start from the bottom in order to get to the roof.

As long as Dust 514 remains on PS3 you wont see any large maps, higher details or anything in terms of graphical improvements (I'm talking 2013 standard here, not 5 year old tech) due to it's massive hardware limitations. So yea, there's that.

Then again, those are the least of Dust 514th problems.

That's not an accurate depiction of the scenario at all to be honest.

BF3 has maps that are just as big with smoother gameplay and better graphics. Albeit only 12 a side.

MAG had modestly large maps (Domincation mode) with 8 times the players and smoother gameplay and hit detection.

Both running on the same hardware. It's not just the hardware that comes into play, it's the game engine and the code that is applied to it to create the game.

at what point do you realise there is a process going on? we're on the stairs to the first floor as we speak, though i have to say the basement was rough going at some points...

Are we really? They showed jets back in 2009 and large maps in 2012, exactly how are we at the stairs? more like we took steps back. Where is the trophies that has been promised back in 09? They even promised other stuff this year at fanfest you think we will have it by the end of the year as they said? I have high hopes for this game but at the end of the day you cant really put it on the same page as other great games. Its unfair to compare dust to bf3 but sense dice took over StarWars lets see how long it takes for them to throw out a "full release game" that has everything in it.

I love these kinds of threads. People don't know jack about innovation.

If the whiners had it their way the iphones of today would have tactile keyboards like blackberries, They just don't understand, if it isn't battlefield or cod how can it be good?

If CCP is making the game I THINK they are making this will be a unicorn among FPS. If they invest in enough interaction between EVE and DUST this game could be incredible beyond measure. No one wants to wait for it. Most don't have a clue what is possible. I like the idea of POCOS control by dust mercs and the drone PVE aspect. I liked the idea for buying/manning turrets vs eve pilots. It really is whatever the two communities can dream up.

Thread #(Insert Number Here) explaining why Dust 514 is (insert positive/negative adjective here).

Why does this exist?

Remember when we had the installations tab and we were able to purchase installations from the market for battle deployment??

Me neither.

Yea!? when is this gonna happen? when i grow old and die? i havent finished high school for gods sake. This game has been in development way before they showed off in 2009 and look where we are at now. Why didn't we test jets back in beta? why didn't we hear/see anything about the commander?

i havent finished high school for gods sake.

Dust is a great game, that's why I log in everyday to play it.

Explains a lot

I can wait ima a patient person (but not everyone is made the same way).

Are we really? They showed jets back in 2009 and large maps in 2012, exactly how are we at the stairs? more like we took steps back. Where is the trophies that has been promised back in 09? They even promised other stuff this year at fanfest you think we will have it by the end of the year as they said? I have high hopes for this game but at the end of the day you cant really put it on the same page as other great games. Its unfair to compare dust to bf3 but sense dice took over StarWars lets see how long it takes for them to throw out a "full release game" that has everything in it.

Then those people leave, never to return, or they come back.

No biggie

I being saying this for months... other games uses exactly the same hardware, and they seen to manage fine. The problem with Dust 514 is EvE, and CCP obsession to try replicate the development progress that they used 10 years ago.

But is a different gaming era now, people wants MORE, and FASTER this days....the sooner CCP realize this, the more successful Dust 514 is going to be.

Again, that was all made in an engine unsuited to this platform, and they had to toss it all and start over because you can't just "port stuff" over to an entirely new engine.

So much self-pwnage.
If they just realized what miserable piece of cr*p the PS3 is tech wise.

I love these kinds of threads. People don't know jack about innovation.

If the whiners had it their way the iphones of today would have tactile keyboards like blackberries, They just don't understand, if it isn't battlefield or cod how can it be good?

If CCP is making the game I THINK they are making this will be a unicorn among FPS. If they invest in enough interaction between EVE and DUST this game could be incredible beyond measure. No one wants to wait for it. Most don't have a clue what is possible. I like the idea of POCOS control by dust mercs and the drone PVE aspect. I liked the idea for buying/manning turrets vs eve pilots. It really is whatever the two communities can dream up.