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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.07.28 19:30:00 -
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5 high slots to stack extenders, which puts you at around Caldari assault eHP. Inherent 1 armor hp/s regen, so you don't have to stick a repairer in the low. So you get the same amount of lows (if the caldari uses a single repairer, which most do), while having the same HP.
And in addition you get the fastest suit in the game, which is what you want considering how broken the hit detection is in the game.
I'm not saying it's OP, just that it's probably one of the "done right" suits. So whoever on the team created that, good job ;)
/random thought |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.07.28 19:32:00 -
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Minja, minja RAP |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.07.28 19:32:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:5 high slots to stack extenders, which puts you at around Caldari assault eHP. Inherent 1 armor hp/s regen, so you don't have to stick a repairer in the low. So you get the same amount of lows (if the caldari uses a single repairer, which most do), while having the same HP.
And in addition you get the fastest suit in the game, which is what you want considering how broken the hit detection is in the game.
I'm not saying it's OP, just that it's probably one of the "done right" suits. So whoever on the team created that, good job ;)
/random thought Tried it...hated it |
broonfondle majikthies
P.O.N.A.G.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.07.28 19:32:00 -
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SHHUUUUUSHHH!! I'm planning on specking into it after I finish the Logi |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.28 19:34:00 -
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When I do eventually train another suit up, this is the one I was looking to do.. switches in stats for different suits might change my opinion later down the road before I do it.. never know with the way this game changes so much
I cross trained heavy in Eve for gallente minmatar combo skills |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.28 19:35:00 -
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Caldari assault is still superior. More EHP, shorter shield delay, faster shield recharge. min assault only gets faster movement and extra sidearm ammo. |
DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2013.07.28 19:41:00 -
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It's OK. Caldari is still better, this is coming from a guy that has a proto Minmatar assault and only basic Caldari. |
Dengru
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.28 19:44:00 -
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The two low slots are actually quite limiting, and sometimes one will be occupied by a CPU upgrade which just leaves you with one. |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.07.28 19:44:00 -
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I'm not arguing about Caldari. I 100% agree they are better, they are CCP's poster boy suits. But out of Gallente, Amarr and Minmatar, Minmatar is the probably the best designed. |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.07.28 19:45:00 -
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Dengru wrote:The two low slots are actually quite limiting, and sometimes one will be occupied by a CPU upgrade which just leaves you with one. Minmatar assault |
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King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.28 19:47:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:I'm not arguing about Caldari. I 100% agree they are better, they are CCP's poster boy suits. But out of Gallente, Amarr and Minmatar, Minmatar is the probably the best designed. arguable, pretty much a guarantee one of those two low slots will be a CPU upgrade, so you're left with only one low...better hope you don't need a PG upgrade! minmatar logi is better than the assault by a mile, in my opinion. |
ReGnYuM
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.28 19:48:00 -
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Lol at ppl posting this when I start using it. |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.07.28 19:49:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Cat Merc wrote:I'm not arguing about Caldari. I 100% agree they are better, they are CCP's poster boy suits. But out of Gallente, Amarr and Minmatar, Minmatar is the probably the best designed. arguable, pretty much a guarantee one of those two low slots will be a CPU upgrade, so you're left with only one low...better hope you don't need a PG upgrade! minmatar logi is better than the assault by a mile, in my opinion. Well, except for the Amarr, I say all logis are better than their assault counter parts >_> |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.07.28 19:50:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Lol at ppl posting this when I start using it. See? Even the mighty ReGnYuM agrees. |
Dengru
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.28 19:51:00 -
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any logi can throw on two proto catalyzers and stamina regulator, which the assault can't. Many other suits can run just as fast for longer periods. |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2013.07.28 20:04:00 -
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Anything > Gallente Assault Those Heavies can't get here fast enough. |
Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.28 20:06:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:5 high slots to stack extenders, which puts you at around Caldari assault eHP. Inherent 1 armor hp/s regen, so you don't have to stick a repairer in the low. So you get the same amount of lows (if the caldari uses a single repairer, which most do), while having the same HP.
And in addition you get the fastest suit in the game, which is what you want considering how broken the hit detection is in the game.
I'm not saying it's OP, just that it's probably one of the "done right" suits. So whoever on the team created that, good job ;)
/random thought
Caldari start with 50+ total hp. Skilling into the shield and armor skills, in the Caldari you get 25% over 210 = 52 and & 25% over 120 = 30, so with the Caldari you have 262 (shield) & 150 armor.
The Minmatar starts with 150 (shield) so you get like 37+ & 130 (armor) + 39 with maxed skills. So you start with something around 185 (shield) & 170 (armor). That make the Minmatar with a total of - 100 hp over the Caldari suit.
Plus the new bonuses for the Caldari will give them more shields. With maxed shield skills and full proto shield modules, the Minmatar reachs 550 (shield), you only have 2 low slots that you probably need to use with cpu & pg extenders because you spend all of them with the shield modules. while the Caldari has 3 low slots and it just need 4 high slots to reach more than 600 on shields.
About the speed? Did you even see the difference in the game of 0.4 speed? The numbers are very pretty, yay Minmatar has 0.4 more than Caldari. In the game, you run next to a Caldari for 1 minute and he can still reachs you with a shotgun. The speed difference is nothing.
Maybe do you want a nerf on the Minmatar suits too. Try to play the game first Iron Wolf Saber |
Nalhe Saldana
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.07.28 20:07:00 -
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Just wait until i get my triple (quad with skill) rep gallente armor logi, its gonna kick ass. |
mollerz
Minja Scouts
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Posted - 2013.07.28 20:14:00 -
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IMHO, the Minmatar assault is the best "sniper" in the game. charged sniper rifle +4 complex dam mods at LV 5 sniper prof.
BOOM!
I prefer the minja scout for front line assaulting. |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.07.28 20:32:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Anything > Gallente Assault Those Heavies can't get here fast enough. Sadly, Core locus grenades do 925 armor damage. Do 2+2 and you will see why Gallente will be the shittiest of all Heavies. |
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.07.28 20:33:00 -
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Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote:Cat Merc wrote:5 high slots to stack extenders, which puts you at around Caldari assault eHP. Inherent 1 armor hp/s regen, so you don't have to stick a repairer in the low. So you get the same amount of lows (if the caldari uses a single repairer, which most do), while having the same HP.
And in addition you get the fastest suit in the game, which is what you want considering how broken the hit detection is in the game.
I'm not saying it's OP, just that it's probably one of the "done right" suits. So whoever on the team created that, good job ;)
/random thought Caldari start with 50+ total hp. Skilling into the shield and armor skills, in the Caldari you get 25% over 210 = 52 and & 25% over 120 = 30, so with the Caldari you have 262 (shield) & 150 armor. The Minmatar starts with 150 (shield) so you get like 37+ & 130 (armor) + 39 with maxed skills. So you start with something around 185 (shield) & 170 (armor). That make the Minmatar with a total of - 100 hp over the Caldari suit. Plus the new bonuses for the Caldari will give them more shields. With maxed shield skills and full proto shield modules, the Minmatar reachs 550 (shield), you only have 2 low slots that you probably need to use with cpu & pg extenders because you spend all of them with the shield modules. while the Caldari has 3 low slots and it just need 4 high slots to reach more than 600 on shields. About the speed? Did you even see the difference in the game of 0.4 speed? The numbers are very pretty, yay Minmatar has 0.4 more than Caldari. In the game, you run next to a Caldari for 1 minute and he can still reachs you with a shotgun. The speed difference is nothing. Maybe do you want a nerf on the Minmatar suits too. Try to play the game first Iron Wolf Saber Saying 0.4 extra speed is nothing shows what you know. Also, what does IWS have anything to do with this? |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.28 20:39:00 -
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The best suits are Caldari due to the highest versatility, and HP possible out of all suits, Minmatar due to great HP, speed tanking, and lots of high slot versatility, Amarr because the assault suit is quite decent even if its a little slow, and Gallente is the crappiest due to armor being crappy. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.28 20:44:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Cat Merc wrote:I'm not arguing about Caldari. I 100% agree they are better, they are CCP's poster boy suits. But out of Gallente, Amarr and Minmatar, Minmatar is the probably the best designed. arguable, pretty much a guarantee one of those two low slots will be a CPU upgrade, so you're left with only one low...better hope you don't need a PG upgrade! minmatar logi is better than the assault by a mile, in my opinion. Well, except for the Amarr, I say all logis are better than their assault counter parts >_> I'll still take caldari assault over caldari logi any day, I move faster, sprint longer, recharge shields faster with less delay, and now i'll have more shields than caldari logis.
regnum makes the min assault look good, but i'd still take caldari assault over any other suit.
edit: gallente assault/logi with proto triage hives are unbeatable 1 on 1 unless you pop their hive/explode them rapidly |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2013.07.28 20:46:00 -
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The Minnie assault also looks pretty sexy imo. |
Heligg
LA 501 eme Citizens of Nowhere
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Posted - 2013.07.28 21:00:00 -
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I dont get your debate on min vs cal assault. It 's just different play style.
Dont make it all about HPs. |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.07.28 21:03:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Cat Merc wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Cat Merc wrote:I'm not arguing about Caldari. I 100% agree they are better, they are CCP's poster boy suits. But out of Gallente, Amarr and Minmatar, Minmatar is the probably the best designed. arguable, pretty much a guarantee one of those two low slots will be a CPU upgrade, so you're left with only one low...better hope you don't need a PG upgrade! minmatar logi is better than the assault by a mile, in my opinion. Well, except for the Amarr, I say all logis are better than their assault counter parts >_> I'll still take caldari assault over caldari logi any day, I move faster, sprint longer, recharge shields faster with less delay, and now i'll have more shields than caldari logis. regnum makes the min assault look good, but i'd still take caldari assault over any other suit. edit: gallente assault/logi with proto triage hives are unbeatable 1 on 1 unless you pop their hive/explode them rapidly A single core locus grenade makes us go boom. 925 armor damage. We don't have a chance to rep in that case :P |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.07.28 21:06:00 -
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Heligg wrote:I dont get your debate on min vs cal assault. It 's just different play style.
Dont make it all about HPs.
Most of the current "meta" is HP Tank > Every other fit. |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
309
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Posted - 2013.07.28 21:13:00 -
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Although I have recently made the Minmi Assault my main, I will say it's not the best all around suit. However, I do think that the suit highly compliments the swarm launcher and sniper rifle.
With stacked complex damage mods, I foresee it doing crazy amounts of damage with proto level weapons. |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
250
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Posted - 2013.07.28 21:49:00 -
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I run a mini scout an last night I had a mini assault smoke me in three games ; same guy. He had a shot gun, an ran faster than me: buff my scout |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
956
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Posted - 2013.07.28 21:54:00 -
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4extenders, 1recharger, 2regulators. Job done. Enough PG left over for most weapons that would make use of it. |
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