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DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo
1698
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Posted - 2013.07.28 03:05:00 -
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I have noticed relative increase in the amount of HAV's on the battle field. Despite there claims that there departure would leave a void, on which the game would collapse itself. The prediction could not have been more false. I thereby say, good riddance. |

Void Echo
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
850
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Posted - 2013.07.28 03:06:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I have noticed relative increase in the amount of HAV's on the battle field. Despite there claims that there departure would leave a void, on which the game would collapse itself. The prediction could not have been more false. I thereby say, good riddance.
that's only because the players no longer have free murder taxis to drive in so they bought militia and standard tanks to kill.
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Jason Pearson
Seraphim Auxiliaries
2206
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Posted - 2013.07.28 03:07:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I have noticed relative increase in the amount of HAV's on the battle field. Despite there claims that there departure would leave a void, on which the game would collapse itself. The prediction could not have been more false. I thereby say, good riddance.
Influx of pretty bad tankers, that get annihilated by AVers Yes, sounds great. |

low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
226
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Posted - 2013.07.28 03:07:00 -
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a very small percentage of the player base reads the forums. don't worry about people qqing. it's probably the same tanker with 50 alts anyway... |

Karazantor
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
117
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Posted - 2013.07.28 03:08:00 -
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There is definitely some decent tanks getting around.
Was in a match yesterday when 2 tanks came out. 3 milita swarm launchers couldn't take out even one of them before they were in cover. This was over basically the last three quarters of the match.
Sure they take lots of SP to get there, but what doesn't.
I have a tanker alt and after a bit of trying, can honestly say I suck. But to make them stronger would risk the good days of Beta when they completely ruled the battlefield (with the help of broken rocket launchers). |

Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
604
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Posted - 2013.07.28 03:40:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I have noticed relative increase in the amount of HAV's on the battle field. Despite there claims that there departure would leave a void, on which the game would collapse itself. The prediction could not have been more false. I thereby say, good riddance.
Damn, now ppl are saying milita HAVs count. Infainty always finden ways to keep us down  |

Xender17
Intrepidus XI EoN.
392
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Posted - 2013.07.28 03:41:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I have noticed relative increase in the amount of HAV's on the battle field. Despite there claims that there departure would leave a void, on which the game would collapse itself. The prediction could not have been more false. I thereby say, good riddance. What your seeing aren't players skilled into them. those are militia/
The amount of militia tanks is growing.
If you aren't specced into something, don't complain about it. Unless its complained about by a majority such as the flaylock pistol.
Good riddance.
Also- The amount of players with some form of AV, advanced or higher... Has probably more than doubled. |

Charlotte O'Dell
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
776
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Posted - 2013.07.28 03:52:00 -
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wait...so you're counting newberry scrubs who dont have free lavs anymore as tankers? omg. no. there are no tankers left. no good ones anyhow. notice how all of them are solo'd by a good aver? |

Karazantor
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
119
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Posted - 2013.07.28 03:55:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:wait...so you're counting newberry scrubs who dont have free lavs anymore as tankers? omg. no. there are no tankers left. no good ones anyhow. notice how all of them are solo'd by a good aver?
In the real world, unsupported armoured vehicles are never solo'd by anti-vehicle weapons. I can't belive the game would be so unbalanced that this would be possible - just another of CCP's failing i'm afraid. |

DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo
1698
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Posted - 2013.07.28 04:11:00 -
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Karazantor wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:wait...so you're counting newberry scrubs who dont have free lavs anymore as tankers? omg. no. there are no tankers left. no good ones anyhow. notice how all of them are solo'd by a good aver? In the real world, unsupported armoured vehicles are never solo'd by anti-vehicle weapons. I can't belive the game would be so unbalanced that this would be possible - just another of CCP's failing i'm afraid. That makes no sense. So you say that vehicles that are supported by infantry are able to be destroyed by a single person? I believe you have mixed yourself up.
That said, armored vehicles have frequently been disabled and even destroyed by a single person. As recent as the Iraqi war, an Abrams Tank, complete with reactive armor, was disabled by a tandem warhead fired from an RPG. A single AV personnel. One round. |
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Karazantor
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
121
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Posted - 2013.07.28 04:24:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Karazantor wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:wait...so you're counting newberry scrubs who dont have free lavs anymore as tankers? omg. no. there are no tankers left. no good ones anyhow. notice how all of them are solo'd by a good aver? In the real world, unsupported armoured vehicles are never solo'd by anti-vehicle weapons. I can't belive the game would be so unbalanced that this would be possible - just another of CCP's failing i'm afraid. That makes no sense. So you say that vehicles that are supported by infantry are able to be destroyed by a single person? I believe you have mixed yourself up. That said, armored vehicles have frequently been disabled and even destroyed by a single person. As recent as the Iraqi war, an Abrams Tank, complete with reactive armor, was disabled by a tandem warhead fired from an RPG. A single AV personnel. One round.
I was being sarcastic again. I'm not trying to be offensive, but i'm guessing you are an American (US), though written sarcasm can be difficult to detect at times.
There are numerous examples from every war in history (since WW1) where multiple tanks (mainline MBT's too) have been destroyed by one person using rockets/missiles/mines/sticky bombs of some sort, despite heavy defenses, both air and ground. The spectacle of WWII King Tigers being near indestructible to even enemy tanks except at point blank is an oddity that has never been repeated (and even then they had a few weaknesses, mostly design faults such as rubbish engine/transmissions, that led to their downfall). |

Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
730
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Posted - 2013.07.28 04:25:00 -
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Karazantor wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:wait...so you're counting newberry scrubs who dont have free lavs anymore as tankers? omg. no. there are no tankers left. no good ones anyhow. notice how all of them are solo'd by a good aver? In the real world, unsupported armoured vehicles are never solo'd by anti-vehicle weapons. I can't belive the game would be so unbalanced that this would be possible - just another of CCP's failing i'm afraid.
I bet there is some old veterans who would beg to differ. A few have given their life to taking a tank out solo, one has even earned a medal of honor...
Now I don't know about these days for tanks,.. but A navy Seal team did get killed with just a single rocket ( not a tank, but you get my point I hope ) |

Karazantor
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
121
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Posted - 2013.07.28 04:27:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Karazantor wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:wait...so you're counting newberry scrubs who dont have free lavs anymore as tankers? omg. no. there are no tankers left. no good ones anyhow. notice how all of them are solo'd by a good aver? In the real world, unsupported armoured vehicles are never solo'd by anti-vehicle weapons. I can't belive the game would be so unbalanced that this would be possible - just another of CCP's failing i'm afraid. I bet there is some old veterans who would beg to differ. A few have given their life to taking a tank out solo, one has even earned a medal of honor... Now I don't know about these days for tanks,.. but A navy Seal team did get killed with just a single rocket ( not a tank, but you get my point I hope )
Please read my above comment. |

Charlotte O'Dell
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
776
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Posted - 2013.07.28 04:29:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Karazantor wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:wait...so you're counting newberry scrubs who dont have free lavs anymore as tankers? omg. no. there are no tankers left. no good ones anyhow. notice how all of them are solo'd by a good aver? In the real world, unsupported armoured vehicles are never solo'd by anti-vehicle weapons. I can't belive the game would be so unbalanced that this would be possible - just another of CCP's failing i'm afraid. That makes no sense. So you say that vehicles that are supported by infantry are able to be destroyed by a single person? I believe you have mixed yourself up. That said, armored vehicles have frequently been disabled and even destroyed by a single person. As recent as the Iraqi war, an Abrams Tank, complete with reactive armor, was disabled by a tandem warhead fired from an RPG. A single AV personnel. One round.
okay...disabled does not mean destroyed. more than likely, it destroyed a tread and was a mobility kill, but short of a 500lbd explosive under the tank, nothing can kill it that isn't dropped from the sky.
no abrams crewman has ever been killed in their tank. so yeah, the tanks we have now are like Shermans. Advanced should be m60s, and protos should be abrams.
an rpg cannot kill an abrams. it has never happened and never will. |

Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
730
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Posted - 2013.07.28 04:30:00 -
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Karazantor wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Karazantor wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:wait...so you're counting newberry scrubs who dont have free lavs anymore as tankers? omg. no. there are no tankers left. no good ones anyhow. notice how all of them are solo'd by a good aver? In the real world, unsupported armoured vehicles are never solo'd by anti-vehicle weapons. I can't belive the game would be so unbalanced that this would be possible - just another of CCP's failing i'm afraid. I bet there is some old veterans who would beg to differ. A few have given their life to taking a tank out solo, one has even earned a medal of honor... Now I don't know about these days for tanks,.. but A navy Seal team did get killed with just a single rocket ( not a tank, but you get my point I hope ) Please read my above comment.
please take notice of how I replied seconds after you( I was making a reply ), now I know you weren't serious.. Glad you weren't  |

General John Ripper
The Generals EoN.
1947
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Posted - 2013.07.28 04:31:00 -
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influx of tankers = points for Mr. Ripper. |

Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
730
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Posted - 2013.07.28 04:33:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Karazantor wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:wait...so you're counting newberry scrubs who dont have free lavs anymore as tankers? omg. no. there are no tankers left. no good ones anyhow. notice how all of them are solo'd by a good aver? In the real world, unsupported armoured vehicles are never solo'd by anti-vehicle weapons. I can't belive the game would be so unbalanced that this would be possible - just another of CCP's failing i'm afraid. That makes no sense. So you say that vehicles that are supported by infantry are able to be destroyed by a single person? I believe you have mixed yourself up. That said, armored vehicles have frequently been disabled and even destroyed by a single person. As recent as the Iraqi war, an Abrams Tank, complete with reactive armor, was disabled by a tandem warhead fired from an RPG. A single AV personnel. One round. okay...disabled does not mean destroyed. more than likely, it destroyed a tread and was a mobility kill, but short of a 500lbd explosive under the tank, nothing can kill it that isn't dropped from the sky. no abrams crewman has ever been killed in their tank. so yeah, the tanks we have now are like Shermans. Advanced should be m60s, and protos should be abrams. an rpg cannot kill an abrams. it has never happened and never will.
no, you can not have a tank immune to swarms  |

Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
399
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Posted - 2013.07.28 04:34:00 -
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One of the first anti-tank weapons was a molotov smashed into the engine vents.
~The more you know.
and yeah, my tank can withstand enough ordinance to level a small city(multiple heavy railgun shots which have roughly the capability to level a building in current days, at less than 10GJ. the ones in game are at 80GJ) but an infantry weapon kills me in 3 shots. #CCPlogic |

Karazantor
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
121
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Posted - 2013.07.28 04:34:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Karazantor wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:wait...so you're counting newberry scrubs who dont have free lavs anymore as tankers? omg. no. there are no tankers left. no good ones anyhow. notice how all of them are solo'd by a good aver? In the real world, unsupported armoured vehicles are never solo'd by anti-vehicle weapons. I can't belive the game would be so unbalanced that this would be possible - just another of CCP's failing i'm afraid. That makes no sense. So you say that vehicles that are supported by infantry are able to be destroyed by a single person? I believe you have mixed yourself up. That said, armored vehicles have frequently been disabled and even destroyed by a single person. As recent as the Iraqi war, an Abrams Tank, complete with reactive armor, was disabled by a tandem warhead fired from an RPG. A single AV personnel. One round. okay...disabled does not mean destroyed. more than likely, it destroyed a tread and was a mobility kill, but short of a 500lbd explosive under the tank, nothing can kill it that isn't dropped from the sky. no abrams crewman has ever been killed in their tank. so yeah, the tanks we have now are like Shermans. Advanced should be m60s, and protos should be abrams. an rpg cannot kill an abrams. it has never happened and never will.
There are advanced versions of RPG's that can actually penetrate the armour, i'm not sure if they were available to Iraq, possibly not. Fortunately they mostly had variations of the Vietnam era RPG-7s. Not exactly a 'first world' type of war.
No doubting most modern western MBT's are tough though. Thinking they are invincible however, could be a fatal mistake for their crews.
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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
1510
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Posted - 2013.07.28 04:35:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I have noticed relative increase in the amount of HAV's on the battle field. Despite there claims that there departure would leave a void, on which the game would collapse itself. The prediction could not have been more false. I thereby say, good riddance. Damn, now ppl are saying milita HAVs count. Infainty always finden ways to keep us down  I can two shot militia tanks LOL. |
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Void Echo
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
853
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Posted - 2013.07.28 04:36:00 -
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you guys seem to be forgetting that all earth technology is lost in new eden...... |

Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
730
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Posted - 2013.07.28 04:36:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:One of the first anti-tank weapons was a molotov smashed into the engine vents.
~The more you know.
and yeah, my tank can withstand enough ordinance to level a small city(multiple heavy railgun shots which have roughly the capability to level a building in current days, at less than 10GJ. the ones in game are at 80GJ) but an infantry weapon kills me in 3 shots. #CCPlogic
Rail guns are destructable |

Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
399
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Posted - 2013.07.28 04:36:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:no, you can not have a tank immune to swarms 
Say that to my little jackal. bastard can passively heal through most swarms. The wonders of shield technology. |

DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo
1698
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Posted - 2013.07.28 04:43:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Karazantor wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:wait...so you're counting newberry scrubs who dont have free lavs anymore as tankers? omg. no. there are no tankers left. no good ones anyhow. notice how all of them are solo'd by a good aver? In the real world, unsupported armoured vehicles are never solo'd by anti-vehicle weapons. I can't belive the game would be so unbalanced that this would be possible - just another of CCP's failing i'm afraid. That makes no sense. So you say that vehicles that are supported by infantry are able to be destroyed by a single person? I believe you have mixed yourself up. That said, armored vehicles have frequently been disabled and even destroyed by a single person. As recent as the Iraqi war, an Abrams Tank, complete with reactive armor, was disabled by a tandem warhead fired from an RPG. A single AV personnel. One round. okay...disabled does not mean destroyed. more than likely, it destroyed a tread and was a mobility kill, but short of a 500lbd explosive under the tank, nothing can kill it that isn't dropped from the sky. no abrams crewman has ever been killed in their tank. so yeah, the tanks we have now are like Shermans. Advanced should be m60s, and protos should be abrams. an rpg cannot kill an abrams. it has never happened and never will. Really, you honestly believe that? Has it occurred to you that the weapons that modern tanks face, are relics from the Cold War? Also, the tandem warhead punched through the side armor and flooded the tank with fuel. I would be curious to see how well an Abrams would fair against a modern RPG-30. It is made specifically to deal with these tanks, it even defeats the trophy system. It's nothing short of a miracle that insurgents have not used them.
Any countermeasure will always have a counter.
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DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo
1698
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Posted - 2013.07.28 04:47:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:you guys seem to be forgetting that all earth technology is lost in new eden...... A yes, you mean like the lightbulb, gun powder, the wheel, blade... Tell me more about how all was lost  |

DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo
1701
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Posted - 2013.07.28 04:56:00 -
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Karazantor wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Karazantor wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:wait...so you're counting newberry scrubs who dont have free lavs anymore as tankers? omg. no. there are no tankers left. no good ones anyhow. notice how all of them are solo'd by a good aver? In the real world, unsupported armoured vehicles are never solo'd by anti-vehicle weapons. I can't belive the game would be so unbalanced that this would be possible - just another of CCP's failing i'm afraid. That makes no sense. So you say that vehicles that are supported by infantry are able to be destroyed by a single person? I believe you have mixed yourself up. That said, armored vehicles have frequently been disabled and even destroyed by a single person. As recent as the Iraqi war, an Abrams Tank, complete with reactive armor, was disabled by a tandem warhead fired from an RPG. A single AV personnel. One round. I was being sarcastic again. I'm not trying to be offensive, but i'm guessing you are an American (US), though written sarcasm can be difficult to detect at times. There are numerous examples from every war in history (since WW1) where multiple tanks (mainline MBT's too) have been destroyed by one person using rockets/missiles/mines/sticky bombs of some sort, despite heavy defenses, both air and ground. The spectacle of WWII King Tigers being near indestructible to even enemy tanks except at point blank is an oddity that has never been repeated (and even then they had a few weaknesses, mostly design faults such as rubbish engine/transmissions, that led to their downfall). Sarcasm works by exaggerating your opponents position, not by mixing up your words... In any case, even if the words were revised in proper order it would not be sarcasm as you are not playing my position, instead opting to poise your own.
You are too presumptuous; I am American... North American, I am a native born Mexican.
Plus, you mainly argue my point with your lasting statement. The King Tiger had faults, everything does. It is simply a matter of making a weapon systems to exploit it. |

medomai grey
WarRavens League of Infamy
89
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Posted - 2013.07.28 05:02:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:no, you can not have a tank immune to swarms  Say that to my little jackal. bastard can passively heal through most swarms. The wonders of shield technology. Knightshade Belladonna wrote:[
Rail guns are destructable yes, often by that same ****ing infantry weapon. How does something man-portable outperform something that has to be mounted on a tank? Your kidding right? You can't actually believe that the forge gun is better than a large rail turret? Can you?  |

Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
964
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Posted - 2013.07.28 05:07:00 -
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I for one welcome the influx of idiot HAV operators, just two matches ago I obtained 2440 warpoints and 400,000 or so isk from driving around and murdering the crap out of 4 Somas, three Sicas, a Maddie and two aurum Gunnies...
Probably the most fun I've ever had in this build ^^ |

CoD isAIDS
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
65
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Posted - 2013.07.28 05:08:00 -
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Lol
Had a skirmish (not ambush) on the small 5-point map. I forced an entire squad to take out STD-ADV level swarm launchers to destroy my Gunnlogi. They got one. It's quite a sight to see 4 sets of swarm launchers heading for you to destroy you.
The best part? It was a Gunnlogi.
For those on here that don't know, the Gunnlogi is a shield tank. How do I survive so many consecutive hits from swarms? Because they don't get a damage bonus against shields.
Which is working as intended. |

CoD isAIDS
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
66
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Posted - 2013.07.28 05:09:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:I for one welcome the influx of idiot HAV operators, just two matches ago I obtained 2440 warpoints and 400,000 or so isk from driving around and murdering the crap out of 4 Somas, three Sicas, a Maddie and two aurum Gunnies...
Probably the most fun I've ever had in this build ^^ And I'm sure all were terrible pilots. It'd be a different story if you were trying to take me out. |
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