For anybody who has been around long enough to witness a complete reset of SP (starting from zero), remembers that each time that happened, heavies were the king of the jungle for quite some time. Heavies only lost their dominance when more and more players started reaching proto suits. But until that point, they were the ultimate slayers.

I've been playing on an alt that has been sitting for a while, had 4.6 million to start, now I have ~5 million. I decided to just stick with an advanced suit and advanced weaponry, cause my core skills would be too low if I went into proto (plus I wouldn't have the funds to support it for long).

Interesting thing is, heavies with HMG (and forge) are the bane of my existence. They mow me down with ease, and I struggle to take them out, even as a mass driving shield-tanked advanced assault Minmatar with flux or M1's. I see a heavy, I have almost zero chance to take them out solo, only way is if I have multiple players and myself trying to take them down (or some luck).

With that said, dealing with heavies on my main account, which is a shield tanked proto calogi and a Duvolle AR, are annoying at best but never posed much of a threat (unless they utilized their role properly and worked as a team). Which tells me that heavies are severely OP vs anybody who isn't tanked in health with a proto suit or using proto gear/weaponry.

TL;DR

Heavies vs anything but tanked proto suits/weapons = OP.
Heavies vs proto and playing their role correctly = Balanced.


BTW, from what I have seen on my alt, heavies are the new FOTM. Played several matches in which the enemy team dominated beyond belief because every other player was a heavy HMG/forge user. The entire night was heavy after heavy after heavy.... clearly not a UP class since so many now spec into it.

Personally I think heavies need a buff. They were almost unstoppable last build but now I solo them in my minja scoit with adv smgs or adv knives.

Maybe that's the problem, I am using almost pure explosive weaponry (mass driver, flaylocks) and heavies are barely harmed by these things (mass driver just tickles them, even with the EXO-5 + a flux).

I am surprised at how useless the mass driver is against heavies, especially since they are supposed to be a armor heavy class, and explosives are the bane to armor.

ARs are fotm.

Heavies dominated CQC just after the reset, the moment everyone got proto they were at the bottom of the food chain, I mean I run a 1mil SP Gallente Assault char, Exile AR and Advanced SMG, around 600ehp. I use cover and wear down the shields with an AR, then once they're on armor, sprint around them and kill them with the SMG.

1v1 I wish they were a bit stronger :(

Maybe that's the problem, I am using almost pure explosive weaponry (mass driver, flaylocks) and heavies are barely harmed by these things (mass driver just tickles them, even with the EXO-5 + a flux).

I am surprised at how useless the mass driver is against heavies, especially since they are supposed to be a armor heavy class, and explosives are the bane to armor.

Heavies this build are hybrid tankers so explosives are not as effective as tgey once were against them .

Perhaps stronger vs AR's/SMG's, but my goodness they are a PITA to take out with mass drivers. Which should be the thing that kills them the fastest/most effectively.

I dunno, mass drivers seem to have an innate ability to evaporate my health. Especially annoying is the spam happy assault MD. Maybe try a scrambler pistol to remove shields them strip armour with a volley of MD?

The HMG was bad ass (too bad ass) until they nerfed the range of the gun, and then proceeded to remove the skill that increased our range...hitting us with a double range nerf. We were effectively change to shotgun range as optimal only, since the bullet dispersion was awful.

Then theyy gave us 10% increased damage on top of the across the board damage buff, and lowered the dispersion by 5%. we now have better range, yet still excel in CQC better then a shotgun (imo).

1.2 hits, increased strafing speed. Heavy suit turning speed stays the same. We are now slightly less effective in CQC, having a harder time tracking the enemy. Not game breaking in the least, but can still be annoying sometimes.

HMG haven't had the best of times...but we learned, we adapted and we can still kill despite our current limitations.

But, the day of days is approaching. build 1.4 brings the removal of slower turning speeds for all suits.

And then the masses will cry for nerfs. /sigh