DUST Search - Skill- RE

Exergonic wrote:

HeroicShot wrote:

steadyhand amarr wrote:

Why respec just play the game and skill into your new fotm. Stop looking for shortcuts it makes you a bad a gamer

You know its not that simple. For example, Before the patch for 1.3 was released, i was slowly specing into Flaylocks due to their power. With the stats that the flaylocks will get after 1.3, i would've never even thought about specing into flaylocks at all. Suddenly, those SP could've been spend elsewhere. The constant changes render player plans regarding what skills to spec into useless at times as with the above example.

Unless they release like 4-5 months of patches ahead of time (i doubt they can do that), many people will continue to waste SP in skills that wouldn't have spec'd into had they known the coming updates, thus not needing/wanting a respec of SP.

The flaylock is still going to be a good gun... If you can aim

Don't think of it as wasted SP... When they buff the Scout suits it will be beast again

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LightSpeed1 3x10toD8th Ivory Vanguard 5	Posted - 2013.07.27 05:48:00 - [1] - Quote CCP wake up an realize skill re specs are a must, every time you tweek the game and nerf stuff, people need to re spec. You guys are all about making a profit from us gamers, why not be smart and sell the skill re spec for AUR in the market If you guys don't this I Can almost be sure you will over time keep losing player on Dust, its almost dead now, or are you guys tryng ti finish killing it? 20,000 AUR = Skill Re Spec this is the answer
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 786	Posted - 2013.07.27 05:49:00 - [2] - Quote Nope
LightSpeed1 3x10toD8th Ivory Vanguard 5	Posted - 2013.07.27 05:53:00 - [3] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Nope you say No cause you probably have been playng this **** for ever and have over 10 million skill points. You care about ur self and not new players who have made mistakes during the learning curve.
CAELAN Andoril Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 33	Posted - 2013.07.27 05:55:00 - [4] - Quote I say no to the balancing patches, yes to the content patches. So no respec for 1.3, but a respec for whichever patches include new suits [Minmatar Heavy, Caldari Light, etc], new vehicles, and possibly new weapons.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1297	Posted - 2013.07.27 05:57:00 - [5] - Quote LightSpeed1 3x10toD8th wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: Nope you say No cause you probavly been playng this **** for ever and have over 10 million skill points. You care about ur self and not new players who have made mistakes during the learning curve. Dude 10 mil is nothing. I'm at 16.3 mil and i would love the ability to respec. So much wasted SP cause CCP changed things and now I have modules i can't use and equipment i no longer have the CPU to fit. Not to mention i just wanna try new things... But grinding for new proto gear takes soooo looooong... Ugh. And proto gear is the only gear worth using.
Cody Allentek Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 42	Posted - 2013.07.27 06:01:00 - [6] - Quote You want a respec? Go create a new character RESPEC COMPLETE
LightSpeed1 3x10toD8th Ivory Vanguard 5	Posted - 2013.07.27 06:04:00 - [7] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: LightSpeed1 3x10toD8th wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: Nope you say No cause you probavly been playng this **** for ever and have over 10 million skill points. You care about ur self and not new players who have made mistakes during the learning curve. Dude 10 mil is nothing. I'm at 16.3 mil and i would love the ability to respec. So much wasted SP cause CCP changed things and now I have modules i can't use and equipment i no longer have the CPU to fit. Not to mention i just wanna try new things... But grinding for new proto gear takes soooo looooong... Ugh. And proto gear is the only gear worth using. then you should support the cause,,, so they can atleast sell re spec to players
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1947	Posted - 2013.07.27 06:05:00 - [8] - Quote LightSpeed1 3x10toD8th wrote: skill re specs are a must I'm not joking when I say that this literally made me lol.
Cosgar ParagonX 3232	Posted - 2013.07.27 06:06:00 - [9] - Quote You want to pay for a respec in a F2P game that's not even complete? Hold on, I might have a bridge I can sell ya...
General Regret II PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 0	Posted - 2013.07.27 11:03:00 - [10] - Quote Haha! Or try some of these magic beans ??

Malkai Inos Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 873	Posted - 2013.07.27 11:13:00 - [11] - Quote "Do as i please or your game will die, for i am all knowing and the leading authority of every subject ever." Yeah...welcome to New Eden, i guess...
KingBlade82 The Phoenix Federation 133	Posted - 2013.07.27 11:15:00 - [12] - Quote -rolls eyes- well people wouldn't ***** if we didn't have this small cap every week :) taking me a long time trying to invest in skills I want
Big miku Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 254	Posted - 2013.07.27 11:22:00 - [13] - Quote KingBlade82 wrote: -rolls eyes- well people wouldn't ***** if we didn't have this small cap every week :) taking me a long time trying to invest in skills I want This, the cap is full on needless and just there to make people buy dem boostas. The only argument I've heard from people against cap removale is "people who play 24/7 will be TOP SCORE". People who play all the time will still be better than you no matter what.
KingBlade82 The Phoenix Federation 133	Posted - 2013.07.27 11:26:00 - [14] - Quote Big miku wrote: KingBlade82 wrote: -rolls eyes- well people wouldn't ***** if we didn't have this small cap every week :) taking me a long time trying to invest in skills I want This, the cap is full on needless and just there to make people buy dem boostas. The only argument I've heard from people against cap removale is "people who play 24/7 will be TOP SCORE". People who play all the time will still be better than you no matter what. yeah im sure it sells more boosters but earning 1000 max sp per battle after (even with boosters its only 500 more) is soooo damn small
SHANN da MAN D3LTA FORC3 Inver Brass 39	Posted - 2013.07.27 16:48:00 - [15] - Quote Here's a novel Idea : Allow Players to buy a respec with AUR (price TBD by CCP), but they lose 20% of their SP when they respec. It gives players the choice to respec to the FOTM, but with a penalty, so they can't respec very often without losing significant SP.
Malkai Inos Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 877	Posted - 2013.07.27 16:55:00 - [16] - Quote SHANN da MAN wrote: Here's a novel Idea : Allow Players to buy a respec with AUR (price TBD by CCP), but they lose 20% of their SP when they respec. It gives players the choice to respec to the FOTM, but with a penalty, so they can't respec very often without losing significant SP. Not new and counter to the SP system. People will just need whatever class they want to respec into+20%. That 20% are maybe a month in most cases so people will just respec monthly instead of speccing another class. Having a large amount of SP is suddenly a bad thing.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 373	Posted - 2013.07.27 17:03:00 - [17] - Quote If everyone has the ability to respec, how do you derive the possibility that someone will gain an unfair advantage? Does reading forum posts not give us a blatant advantage over the rest of the player population? 10,000,000 ISK Available once every 720 hours.
SHANN da MAN D3LTA FORC3 Inver Brass 40	Posted - 2013.07.27 17:10:00 - [18] - Quote Malkai Inos wrote: SHANN da MAN wrote: Here's a novel Idea : Allow Players to buy a respec with AUR (price TBD by CCP), but they lose 20% of their SP when they respec. It gives players the choice to respec to the FOTM, but with a penalty, so they can't respec very often without losing significant SP. Not new and counter to the SP system. People will just need whatever class they want to respec into+20%. That 20% are maybe a month in most cases so people will just respec monthly instead of speccing another class. Yes and they will be spending money to do this on both Boosters and Monthly Respecs ... good for the Game and Good for CCP
steadyhand amarr Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 980	Posted - 2013.07.27 17:12:00 - [19] - Quote Why respec just play the game and skill into your new fotm. Stop looking for shortcuts it makes you a bad a gamer
CoD isAIDS Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 49	Posted - 2013.07.27 17:14:00 - [20] - Quote LightSpeed1 3x10toD8th wrote: CCP wake up an realize skill re specs are a must, every time you tweek the game and nerf stuff, people need to re spec. You guys are all about making a profit from us gamers, why not be smart and sell the skill re spec for AUR in the market If you guys don't this I Can almost be sure you will over time keep losing player on Dust, its almost dead now, or are you guys tryng ti finish killing it? 20,000 AUR = Skill Re Spec this is the answer lolno Accept the role you skilled in to. If you can't accept that, start another character.

Exergonic TeamPlayers EoN. 254	Posted - 2013.07.27 17:17:00 - [21] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: If everyone has the ability to respec, how do you derive the possibility that someone will gain an unfair advantage? Does reading forum posts not give us a blatant advantage over the rest of the player population? 100,000,000 ISK Available once every 720 hours. Fixed it!
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 944	Posted - 2013.07.27 17:18:00 - [22] - Quote 30,000 aurum, 6month cooldown on use. That's it. The only circumstance in which a respec would be acceptable. And even then it's a stretch. Now stop with all these bloody threads already.
Exergonic TeamPlayers EoN. 254	Posted - 2013.07.27 17:19:00 - [23] - Quote CoD isAIDS wrote: LightSpeed1 3x10toD8th wrote: CCP wake up an realize skill re specs are a must, every time you tweek the game and nerf stuff, people need to re spec. You guys are all about making a profit from us gamers, why not be smart and sell the skill re spec for AUR in the market If you guys don't this I Can almost be sure you will over time keep losing player on Dust, its almost dead now, or are you guys tryng ti finish killing it? 20,000 AUR = Skill Re Spec this is the answer lolno Accept the role you skilled in to. If you can't accept that, start another character. Fail sir... Just Fail You can't not offer skill respecs to people in an unfinished game
CoD isAIDS Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 49	Posted - 2013.07.27 17:19:00 - [24] - Quote KingBlade82 wrote: -rolls eyes- well people wouldn't ***** if we didn't have this small cap every week :) taking me a long time trying to invest in skills I want I guess their design for the long haul is working as intended.
HeroicShot DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2013.07.27 17:24:00 - [25] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Why respec just play the game and skill into your new fotm. Stop looking for shortcuts it makes you a bad a gamer You know its not that simple. For example, Before the patch for 1.3 was released, i was slowly specing into Flaylocks due to their power. With the stats that the flaylocks will get after 1.3, i would've never even thought about specing into flaylocks at all. Suddenly, those SP could've been spend elsewhere. The constant changes render player plans regarding what skills to spec into useless at times as with the above example. Unless they release like 4-5 months of patches ahead of time (i doubt they can do that), many people will continue to waste SP in skills that wouldn't have spec'd into had they known the coming updates, thus not needing/wanting a respec of SP.
Exergonic TeamPlayers EoN. 254	Posted - 2013.07.27 17:26:00 - [26] - Quote HeroicShot wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Why respec just play the game and skill into your new fotm. Stop looking for shortcuts it makes you a bad a gamer You know its not that simple. For example, Before the patch for 1.3 was released, i was slowly specing into Flaylocks due to their power. With the stats that the flaylocks will get after 1.3, i would've never even thought about specing into flaylocks at all. Suddenly, those SP could've been spend elsewhere. The constant changes render player plans regarding what skills to spec into useless at times as with the above example. Unless they release like 4-5 months of patches ahead of time (i doubt they can do that), many people will continue to waste SP in skills that wouldn't have spec'd into had they known the coming updates, thus not needing/wanting a respec of SP. The flaylock is still going to be a good gun... If you can aim Don't think of it as wasted SP... When they buff the Scout suits it will be beast again
Klash 816 Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises 34	Posted - 2013.07.27 17:29:00 - [27] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Why respec just play the game and skill into your new fotm. Stop looking for shortcuts it makes you a bad a gamer Huh and I thought being a bad gamer meant you stopped playing games to have fun :/
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1303	Posted - 2013.07.27 17:31:00 - [28] - Quote Dust is just not in a place where you can make informed decisions with your SP. it's unfortunate and frustrating but in its current state... People really need options to work around CCPs changes other than 'grind moar'. When you can't make informed decisions about the future specs of current drop suits and weaponry... What's the point of spending SP and playing the game? If people truly think we should never have respecs. Then the wisest course of action is to afk farm and not play for the next 5-6 months... Is that a culture we really want to foster in this game?
HeroicShot DUST University Ivy League 4	Posted - 2013.07.27 17:31:00 - [29] - Quote Exergonic wrote: HeroicShot wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Why respec just play the game and skill into your new fotm. Stop looking for shortcuts it makes you a bad a gamer You know its not that simple. For example, Before the patch for 1.3 was released, i was slowly specing into Flaylocks due to their power. With the stats that the flaylocks will get after 1.3, i would've never even thought about specing into flaylocks at all. Suddenly, those SP could've been spend elsewhere. The constant changes render player plans regarding what skills to spec into useless at times as with the above example. Unless they release like 4-5 months of patches ahead of time (i doubt they can do that), many people will continue to waste SP in skills that wouldn't have spec'd into had they known the coming updates, thus not needing/wanting a respec of SP. The flaylock is still going to be a good gun... If you can aim Don't think of it as wasted SP... When they buff the Scout suits it will be beast again we dont know that for sure. With the amount of people still complaining about how the debuff to flaylocks in 1.3 aren't enough, there seems to be chance that the debuff could become even greater that whats announced. Knowing CCP, they will just release another update to 1.3 patches stating so :/ In the long run, no SP is wasted if you plan on actually building your character fully as per the CCP 7 Year plan. But i seriously doubt that anyone currently playing seriously plans or even imagines on playing this game even remotely close to that long.
Bleeding Knight Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 6	Posted - 2013.07.27 17:38:00 - [30] - Quote CoD isAIDS wrote: LightSpeed1 3x10toD8th wrote: CCP wake up an realize skill re specs are a must, every time you tweek the game and nerf stuff, people need to re spec. You guys are all about making a profit from us gamers, why not be smart and sell the skill re spec for AUR in the market If you guys don't this I Can almost be sure you will over time keep losing player on Dust, its almost dead now, or are you guys tryng ti finish killing it? 20,000 AUR = Skill Re Spec this is the answer lolno Accept the role you skilled in to. If you can't accept that, start another character. Why do you need a respec? You'll eventually get most of the skill.



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