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crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.26 21:32:00 -
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I'm just curious what's the strategy here... To be the only non cross platform console f2p title. I don't understand |
Kinky Burrito
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
105
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Posted - 2013.07.26 21:36:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:I'm just curious what's the strategy here... To be the only non cross platform console f2p title. I don't understand
DCUO |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
813
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Posted - 2013.07.26 21:38:00 -
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Well since the concept of a single shard universe is pretty important to EVE and neither company would likely allow cross console play, they had to choose one. As to why not on PC, no idea but we all seem to think it will be one day. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
754
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Posted - 2013.07.26 21:38:00 -
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MS are greedy fascists? |
Bubbles moon
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2013.07.26 21:39:00 -
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Kinky Burrito wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:I'm just curious what's the strategy here... To be the only non cross platform console f2p title. I don't understand DCUO Warthunder PS2 World of tanks World of warplanes Blacklight Retribution
ect.... |
xjumpman23
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
420
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Posted - 2013.07.26 21:40:00 -
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Kinky Burrito wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:I'm just curious what's the strategy here... To be the only non cross platform console f2p title. I don't understand DCUO
DCUO PS3/PS4 will be cross platform. |
Bubbles moon
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2013.07.26 21:41:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Well since the concept of a single shard universe is pretty important to EVE and neither company would likely allow cross console play, they had to choose one. As to why not on PC, no idea but we all seem to think it will be one day.
That doesn't make any sense, all of those other mmos are all logging into the same server.... and eve online local chat and others can run into dust, why couldn't a PC version of dust and a Ps3 version of dust be side by side and being played by the same people?
Didn't they even already put a graphics option into dust??? Every other mmo on that list is one server world as well. At least as much as dust is. But you can log into a PC a console a phone, and play them all that way too on the same account....
Dust was suppoe to be the 1st massive mmo f2p on console but it's not anymore. Shouldn't they adapt? |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers League of Infamy
1548
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Posted - 2013.07.26 21:43:00 -
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xjumpman23 wrote:Kinky Burrito wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:I'm just curious what's the strategy here... To be the only non cross platform console f2p title. I don't understand DCUO DCUO PS3/PS4 will be cross platform.
That's super sexy, so PS3 PS4 and PC all on the same servers? Sounds kick ass, too bad it's impossible for CCP. : ( |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
813
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Posted - 2013.07.26 21:53:00 -
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Bubbles moon wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Well since the concept of a single shard universe is pretty important to EVE and neither company would likely allow cross console play, they had to choose one. As to why not on PC, no idea but we all seem to think it will be one day. That doesn't make any sense, all of those other mmos are all logging into the same server.... and eve online local chat and others can run into dust, why couldn't a PC version of dust and a Ps3 version of dust be side by side and being played by the same people? Didn't they even already put a graphics option into dust??? Every other mmo on that list is one server world as well. At least as much as dust is. But you can log into a PC a console a phone, and play them all that way too on the same account.... Dust was suppoe to be the 1st massive mmo f2p on console but it's not anymore. Shouldn't they adapt? I'm saying in regards to PS3 and 360. No way would Sony or Microsoft let the consoles play together, they would have to be separate battles fighting for different different versions of the same districts, same planets, same systems, etc. But in regards to PS3 and PC cross play that is definitely a possibility and has already been done before (Portal 2). |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1377
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Posted - 2013.07.26 21:59:00 -
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Dust might be cross platform eventually, assuming a PS4 release at some point. Didn't the CEO say something about needing to expand/release elsewhere eventually at Fanfest/E3? It's just not happening right now I'd guess. |
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dday3six
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
118
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Posted - 2013.07.26 21:59:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Well since the concept of a single shard universe is pretty important to EVE and neither company would likely allow cross console play, they had to choose one. As to why not on PC, no idea but we all seem to think it will be one day.
It's rather easy to edit files on PC. Hell players even did it on Mass Effect 3, and that was just co-op. I'd wager a guess that's part of the reason why Dust is on PS3.
Also the console market is a large demographic for shooters. Free to Play relies a great deal on having a large playerbase to have more potential revenue. |
Byozuma Kegawa
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
160
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Posted - 2013.07.26 22:02:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:xjumpman23 wrote:Kinky Burrito wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:I'm just curious what's the strategy here... To be the only non cross platform console f2p title. I don't understand DCUO DCUO PS3/PS4 will be cross platform. That's super sexy, so PS3 PS4 and PC all on the same servers? Sounds kick ass, too bad it's impossible for CCP. : ( Uh, no. DCUO will be cross-platform with the PS3/PS4, not PC. DCUO will likely stay separate between PS3/PS4 and PC, as it is now. |
Guildo Crow
ZionTCD
65
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Posted - 2013.07.26 22:04:00 -
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I remember they responded to why it was PS3 only a long time ago. Initially it was meant to be on Microsoft and Sony's hardware.
I think it had something to do with Microsoft being more difficult to work with as far as content/updates go.
Either that, or something to do with not being able to directly connect to Tranquility.
But don't quote me on this, Google will most likely have the correct answer. |
MlDDLE MANGEMENT
lMPurity
218
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Posted - 2013.07.26 22:27:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Well since the concept of a single shard universe is pretty important to EVE and neither company would likely allow cross console play, they had to choose one. As to why not on PC, no idea but we all seem to think it will be one day.
PS3 and PC have cross platform play with FF14. PS2 wants to do it but wont because of the disparity b/w kb/m and controller not to mention the sheer server load it would cause.
FF11 in fact had cross platform across all the platforms but MS decided to be a bunch of lamo's and wanted to create a closed community thats why Defiance(**** game) doesnt have cross platform play even though internally they are capable of it. Because Microsoft won't allow it and devs are too scared to release a game that wont hit that market.
Personally i think you will see even more cross platform gaming at least on the PS4 and PC end as devs will just go tell microsoft to **** off with their closed community policy and i really hope devs have the balls to do it. |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
375
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Posted - 2013.07.26 22:31:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:MS are greedy fascists? That's it. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
767
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Posted - 2013.07.26 22:39:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:I'm just curious what's the strategy here... To be the only non cross platform console f2p title. I don't understand
*shrugs*
Either the Xbox 360 cannot handle the game or CCP cannot optimize it well enough for the Xbox 360 to handle it.
Plus Xbox 360 charges the developer for each update....or at least they did back when CCP made their agreement with Sony. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
548
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Posted - 2013.07.27 00:44:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Bubbles moon wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Well since the concept of a single shard universe is pretty important to EVE and neither company would likely allow cross console play, they had to choose one. As to why not on PC, no idea but we all seem to think it will be one day. That doesn't make any sense, all of those other mmos are all logging into the same server.... and eve online local chat and others can run into dust, why couldn't a PC version of dust and a Ps3 version of dust be side by side and being played by the same people? Didn't they even already put a graphics option into dust??? Every other mmo on that list is one server world as well. At least as much as dust is. But you can log into a PC a console a phone, and play them all that way too on the same account.... Dust was suppoe to be the 1st massive mmo f2p on console but it's not anymore. Shouldn't they adapt? I'm saying in regards to PS3 and 360. No way would Sony or Microsoft let the consoles play together, they would have to be separate battles fighting for different different versions of the same districts, same planets, same systems, etc. But in regards to PS3 and PC cross play that is definitely a possibility and has already been done before (Portal 2). MS would not allow hosting on tranquility. It's a dead issue. |
LuckyLuke Wargan
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
205
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Posted - 2013.07.27 01:53:00 -
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Bubbles moon wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Well since the concept of a single shard universe is pretty important to EVE and neither company would likely allow cross console play, they had to choose one. As to why not on PC, no idea but we all seem to think it will be one day. That doesn't make any sense, all of those other mmos are all logging into the same server.... and eve online local chat and others can run into dust, why couldn't a PC version of dust and a Ps3 version of dust be side by side and being played by the same people? Didn't they even already put a graphics option into dust??? Every other mmo on that list is one server world as well. At least as much as dust is. But you can log into a PC a console a phone, and play them all that way too on the same account.... Dust was suppoe to be the 1st massive mmo f2p on console but it's not anymore. Shouldn't they adapt? If I remember right, Sony and CCP have a deal for a few years of exclusivity on playstation, I think it was a 3 year deal from launch day if I remember right. |
Fiddler Galaine
The United Federation New Eden Dark Taboo
7
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Posted - 2013.07.27 02:01:00 -
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LuckyLuke Wargan wrote:Bubbles moon wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Well since the concept of a single shard universe is pretty important to EVE and neither company would likely allow cross console play, they had to choose one. As to why not on PC, no idea but we all seem to think it will be one day. That doesn't make any sense, all of those other mmos are all logging into the same server.... and eve online local chat and others can run into dust, why couldn't a PC version of dust and a Ps3 version of dust be side by side and being played by the same people? Didn't they even already put a graphics option into dust??? Every other mmo on that list is one server world as well. At least as much as dust is. But you can log into a PC a console a phone, and play them all that way too on the same account.... Dust was suppoe to be the 1st massive mmo f2p on console but it's not anymore. Shouldn't they adapt? If I remember right, Sony and CCP have a deal for a few years of exclusivity on playstation, I think it was a 3 year deal from launch day if I remember right.
Maybe it'll be on PC once the exclusivity deal ends? Might explain the rush out of beta. I don't really care personally, just wondering where this is going. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1291
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Posted - 2013.07.27 02:30:00 -
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Yes dust on PC is coming... Eventually. |
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crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers League of Infamy
1548
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Posted - 2013.07.27 08:16:00 -
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dday3six wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Well since the concept of a single shard universe is pretty important to EVE and neither company would likely allow cross console play, they had to choose one. As to why not on PC, no idea but we all seem to think it will be one day. It's rather easy to edit files on PC. Hell players even did it on Mass Effect 3, and that was just co-op. I'd wager a guess that's part of the reason why Dust is on PS3. Also the console market is a large demographic for shooters. Free to Play relies a great deal on having a large playerbase to have more potential revenue.
steam lets it's fans make the models for it's video games with the stream workshop.
Why not do that with dust? Make colored version cost real money, use the community of talented artists *who want a cut* is a great way to grow the games assests even if CCP doesn't want to use most of it. the genius is they still have to greenlight everything, and usually companies touch them up. but not always.
I really think it's this huge art assets dessert that's slowing down the game |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers League of Infamy
1548
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Posted - 2013.07.27 08:17:00 -
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MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Well since the concept of a single shard universe is pretty important to EVE and neither company would likely allow cross console play, they had to choose one. As to why not on PC, no idea but we all seem to think it will be one day. PS3 and PC have cross platform play with FF14. PS2 wants to do it but wont because of the disparity b/w kb/m and controller not to mention the sheer server load it would cause. FF11 in fact had cross platform across all the platforms but MS decided to be a bunch of lamo's and wanted to create a closed community thats why Defiance(**** game) doesnt have cross platform play even though internally they are capable of it. Because Microsoft won't allow it and devs are too scared to release a game that wont hit that market. Personally i think you will see even more cross platform gaming at least on the PS4 and PC end as devs will just go tell microsoft to **** off with their closed community policy and i really hope devs have the balls to do it.
PS2 is doing it. PS4. |
Balzich Rotaine
ZODS ARMY
173
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Posted - 2013.07.27 08:23:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Bubbles moon wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Well since the concept of a single shard universe is pretty important to EVE and neither company would likely allow cross console play, they had to choose one. As to why not on PC, no idea but we all seem to think it will be one day. That doesn't make any sense, all of those other mmos are all logging into the same server.... and eve online local chat and others can run into dust, why couldn't a PC version of dust and a Ps3 version of dust be side by side and being played by the same people? Didn't they even already put a graphics option into dust??? Every other mmo on that list is one server world as well. At least as much as dust is. But you can log into a PC a console a phone, and play them all that way too on the same account.... Dust was suppoe to be the 1st massive mmo f2p on console but it's not anymore. Shouldn't they adapt? I'm saying in regards to PS3 and 360. No way would Sony or Microsoft let the consoles play together, they would have to be separate battles fighting for different different versions of the same districts, same planets, same systems, etc. But in regards to PS3 and PC cross play that is definitely a possibility and has already been done before (Portal 2). Why would you ever want to be on the same server as pc? Pc gaming is a terrible world full of hardware issues, snobs, and cheaters. People cheat on console, but pc is just rediculous. I haven't had fun on a pc multiplayer game since 2002. It's a joke. |
crazy space 1
unkn0wn killers League of Infamy
1550
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Posted - 2013.07.27 23:57:00 -
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unreal 3 should just port to PC easily....
If different players can use different graphics settings the whole game should be playable from lots of access points, at least imo as a long term goal. |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
383
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Posted - 2013.07.28 00:08:00 -
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Because Microsoft is run by a bunch of dingleberries. |
Namirial Kensai
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.07.28 00:21:00 -
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hooc order wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:I'm just curious what's the strategy here... To be the only non cross platform console f2p title. I don't understand *shrugs* Either the Xbox 360 cannot handle the game or CCP cannot optimize it well enough for the Xbox 360 to handle it. Plus Xbox 360 charges the developer for each update....or at least they did back when CCP made their agreement with Sony. no, it wasnt on 360, and in fact will NEVER be on a microsoft console, because of the agreements microsoft demanded CCP make should they allow the game on their console. basically you have to PAY for new content, pathes can only come out once a month and cannot be bigger than a certain size, and the game could not connect to ANY servers not owned by microsoft.
as far as DUST being allowed on PC, i couldnt care less unless i was able to have my capsuleer throw on some armor and do some shooting herself, after all, who can do a job better than yourself? |
crazy space 1
unkn0wn killers League of Infamy
1550
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Posted - 2013.07.28 00:55:00 -
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Namirial Kensai wrote:hooc order wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:I'm just curious what's the strategy here... To be the only non cross platform console f2p title. I don't understand *shrugs* Either the Xbox 360 cannot handle the game or CCP cannot optimize it well enough for the Xbox 360 to handle it. Plus Xbox 360 charges the developer for each update....or at least they did back when CCP made their agreement with Sony. no, it wasnt on 360, and in fact will NEVER be on a microsoft console, because of the agreements microsoft demanded CCP make should they allow the game on their console. basically you have to PAY for new content, pathes can only come out once a month and cannot be bigger than a certain size, and the game could not connect to ANY servers not owned by microsoft. as far as DUST being allowed on PC, i couldnt care less unless i was able to have my capsuleer throw on some armor and do some shooting herself, after all, who can do a job better than yourself?
It's the same reason world of tanks is being pulled from xbox one, MS won't let them give players access without a gold account.
wankers
So the PS4 is becoming the f2p mmo console. I just think if only a very stong focus on PS4 if not PC I suppose.... But I'd rather see a PC port since most other mmos are going to same route. Part of what makes dust aimming bad during lag is everything is done server side. So it might look like a mass driver hits but the server had t go off somewhere else. This is why cheating doesn't happen on CCPs servers.
I know they do it if they tried, but either way sticking to PS3 only? hmmmmmmmm |
Namirial Kensai
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.07.28 23:00:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:Namirial Kensai wrote:hooc order wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:I'm just curious what's the strategy here... To be the only non cross platform console f2p title. I don't understand *shrugs* Either the Xbox 360 cannot handle the game or CCP cannot optimize it well enough for the Xbox 360 to handle it. Plus Xbox 360 charges the developer for each update....or at least they did back when CCP made their agreement with Sony. no, it wasnt on 360, and in fact will NEVER be on a microsoft console, because of the agreements microsoft demanded CCP make should they allow the game on their console. basically you have to PAY for new content, pathes can only come out once a month and cannot be bigger than a certain size, and the game could not connect to ANY servers not owned by microsoft. as far as DUST being allowed on PC, i couldnt care less unless i was able to have my capsuleer throw on some armor and do some shooting herself, after all, who can do a job better than yourself? It's the same reason world of tanks is being pulled from xbox one, MS won't let them give players access without a gold account. wankers So the PS4 is becoming the f2p mmo console. I just think if only a very stong focus on PS4 if not PC I suppose.... But I'd rather see a PC port since most other mmos are going to same route. Part of what makes dust aimming bad during lag is everything is done server side. So it might look like a mass driver hits but the server had t go off somewhere else. This is why cheating doesn't happen on CCPs servers. I know they do it if they tried, but either way sticking to PS3 only? hmmmmmmmm part of the PS3/4 thing was an exclusivity contract they signed with SONY as the only real condition to allowing the MMO on PS3, not quite sure how long the contract lasts, but you can bet sure as hell once its up CCP will look at quieting all the rage on the EVE side. (but seriously, the only thing that ticks me off about DUST and what several EVE devs have said about wanting the EVE universe split up among more games, is that for each one made, the account i pay 15 dollars for a month allows me/my character to access less and less of the "content" in "eve", not that they take away content, but that they make content and dangle it in front of me with "ooh, wanna play this? too bad, no capsuleers allowed, gotta get an account and character on a different game/console") |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2501
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Posted - 2013.07.28 23:29:00 -
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Well, mi-óro$oft screwed it up for themselves, not sure why it's not on PC, and the devs never comment on that. |
xjumpman23
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
422
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Posted - 2013.07.29 00:01:00 -
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Byozuma Kegawa wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:xjumpman23 wrote:Kinky Burrito wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:I'm just curious what's the strategy here... To be the only non cross platform console f2p title. I don't understand DCUO DCUO PS3/PS4 will be cross platform. That's super sexy, so PS3 PS4 and PC all on the same servers? Sounds kick ass, too bad it's impossible for CCP. : ( Uh, no. DCUO will be cross-platform with the PS3/PS4, not PC. DCUO will likely stay separate between PS3/PS4 and PC, as it is now.
PS3/PS4 players will be on the same servers for DCUO. SOE already confirmed this. |
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