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Crow Splat
DUST University
Ivy League
71
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Posted - 2013.07.27 00:09:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:What if they genuinely like to snipe more then anything else and spent most of their points into it?
As was previously mentioned, you can't help imbalances where one team has more snipers then usual, and sometimes you get goofy things like nine snipers on one team.
Sometimes we must do things that we don't like in order to succeed.
To put it another way, having the world's greatest knife is all well and good, but when all you need is a hammer, no one really cares how good your knife is. The lesson being, spend a little less on your knife so that you can still afford a hammer. |
broonfondle majikthies
P.O.N.A.G.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
51
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Posted - 2013.07.27 00:15:00 -
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Crow Splat wrote:broonfondle majikthies wrote:Part of the problem is you cant exactly vet all the players entering. If half your team are dedicated snipers what can they do? Its what they train in and spec for. They might be able to capture a point but they don't have the gear to hold it What? So I'm only allowed to spend points in one playstyle? Man I've been breaking rules. Seriously though, if all your points are in sniping then you're either a newbie, note this is different than n00b, or just bad. I don't even have 8 million sp and I can make a decent cqb fit if my team already has enough snipers. Snipers, stop being bad and spend sp in something else. Help your team out a little.
By all means no, do whatever you want. I'm saying that most of us specialise in certain weapons and armour. Where's the fun in playing a loadout for something your not interested it. Its is a game after all
Nova knifers are not exactly in high demand but I've certainly been killed by a couple that demand respect (one was like I was fighting a f***ing Predator!) Should they be made to march on the front line and capture points while under enemy fire? |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
932
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Posted - 2013.07.27 00:15:00 -
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Crow Splat wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:What if they genuinely like to snipe more then anything else and spent most of their points into it?
As was previously mentioned, you can't help imbalances where one team has more snipers then usual, and sometimes you get goofy things like nine snipers on one team. Sometimes we must do things that we don't like in order to succeed. To put it another way, having the world's greatest knife is all well and good, but when all you need is a hammer, no one really cares how good your knife is. The lesson being, spend a little less on your knife so that you can still afford a hammer.
But they are succeeding.
DUST does not penalize your team for losing, only for earning WP, and they are certainly earning WP.
To fix the "undesirable" behavior, you absolutely have to have incentives in the game itself. Currently, there is absolutely no incentive for any sniper to stop sniping simply because all the objectives are red. |
2100 Angels
The Southern Legion
206
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Posted - 2013.07.27 00:48:00 -
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Ahhh. My issue is with the 8 people sitting afk in the MCC every match. This has put my team in a position in which we are being red lined. Why should I switch to my speed fit and risk dying multiple times and losing significant amounts of ISK for a team that doesn't give two *****? I'll quite happily sit in my relatively "safe" position (not necessarily the red line, mind you) and get kills from afar. There is just no incentive for me to risk more than I have to for the "good of the team", or even to try to win the game. What benefit do I get for winning the game? seems pretty unclear. There should be like a 1.5x or 2x bonus to both SP and ISK to the match winner. |
Crow Splat
DUST University
Ivy League
71
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Posted - 2013.07.27 00:57:00 -
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I agree that we do need incentives in place. Maybe a scaled payout where losers earn 75% while winners earn 125% with the top 3 winners getting 150% and top 3 losers getting 100%. That would put you close to a 100k swing for winning and losing. It might not stop things completely but it would at least get some folks off their butts.
In the mean time the only thing these people are 'succeeding' at is earning a poor reputation for themselves and their corp. And in New Eden, your reputation is the most valuable thing you have. |
calvin b
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
133
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Posted - 2013.07.27 02:03:00 -
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As a Heavy I got tired of holding objectives. So this week I am using my proto Sniper fit and doing something other than being a bullet sponge. I will be back next week so you can turn me into hamburger meat but for now pew pew pew |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1291
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Posted - 2013.07.27 02:11:00 -
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Abby Invo wrote:All of the people who dislike redline play and suggest solutions to it seem to forget the whole point of the redline. The redline is there to prevent spawn camping and base-****ing. If you remove the redline or de-incentivize redline play, then the people who get forced into the redline by a vastly superior team will just have that much more to contend with. Instead, ask yourselves this: when was the last time a player in the redline proved to be a meaningful contributor to his own team? It's a cautious playstyle made for people who don't want to risk, similar things exist in Eve and are vital to the health of the player base. I suspect the problem will largely vanish when PVE is introduced as it will fill that niche. In the mean time, just grin and bear it.
Correct. There is no redline problem, other than bad matchmaking. I know it's hard to tell considering how much everything is skewed in favor of the AR, but you aren't supposed to be able to kill everything with your AR. |
Sollemnis Aelinos
89th Infantry Division
87
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Posted - 2013.07.27 02:23:00 -
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broonfondle majikthies wrote:[quote=Crow Splat][quote=broonfondle majikthies]Nova knifers are not exactly in high demand but I've certainly been killed by a couple that demand respect (one was like I was fighting a f***ing Predator!) Should they be made to march on the front line and capture points while under enemy fire?
you must have been one of my victims  |
ADP Silenced
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.27 02:30:00 -
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Please stop complaining about the sniper, they are just as important as every other role...
It is not that we need incentive or that snipers are to blame for not taking objectives....If you want all of the above, Join a CORPORATION with structure...random skirmish is like playing the lotto, you never know what numbers are gonna show up(you never know who will be or your team)....some matches you will have no snipers and the match will seem to be a dream come true for a frontline merc....other matches you will be the only frontline merc amongst many snipers.
...random skirmish is meant to show the importance of joining up with a corp structure.. |
Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
21
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Posted - 2013.07.27 02:36:00 -
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68 -0 that is cool man. Out of all those kills how many were crouch snipes? I bet all of them zzzzzzzzz. |
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
26
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Posted - 2013.07.27 03:16:00 -
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So.... let me get this straight. No matter what the situation, you may as well kill yourself for being such a loser if you drop back to snipe.
I'm in an active corp, but it's small, so there isn't always someone to squad with; rare, but it happens. Or maybe everyone else just started a match and I don't feel like waiting, I'll play a quick instant battle to pass the time. I jump in, and, oh dear, it seems that 2 full squads from elite corps that got tired of waiting for an FW battle are facing me and a bunch of randoms. 5 minutes in, I've died 4 times, having been hit from 3 sides by protobears every time I spawn in, while some blueberry spins around in a circle a few feet away. What should I do. Better yet, what would you do, Mr. Tryhard?
1) Gauging by your responses, the answer is obviously, "I'm $%^$# rambo, I'm just going to keep going all one-man-army and go 10/20, but hey at least I go those 10 kills and hacked an objective or two." BULL SH!T.
2) "I'll just quit, this is BS." Nice work, a$$, you just abandoned the team you so passionately advocated fighting for.
3) "AFK in the MCC" How is that better than at least doing something?
No, most reasonable people would say, hm, I could sit here and lose 20 suits worth of ISK fighting 2 tanks, 3 LLAV's and several protobears myself, or instead of cowering in the MCC, I could at least do something like grab a turret, or find a decent spot and snipe, maybe hurt those protobears in the wallet a little too. How is there anything wrong with that? If your counter argument is, well, thats just matchmaking, it will get fixed. Well, when it f-ing gets fixed, then the redline sniping will too. In the meantime, don't be such a self-righteous jerk. |
2100 Angels
The Southern Legion
208
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Posted - 2013.07.27 03:30:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:68 -0 that is cool man. Out of all those kills how many were crouch snipes? I bet all of them zzzzzzzzz.
Congratulations on completely missing the point of my post |
Jean Mclain
The Malevolent Monkey Militia
7
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Posted - 2013.07.27 04:19:00 -
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I've been playing a scout sniper since it was a starter fit back in Chromosome. I think what most people don't get is that even though the sniper rifle is your primary weapon, it doesn't define your entire role.
I cap underdefended points and I defend key points (like C in Manus Peak or B in Line Harvest). I spend about half my time saddling the enemy redline. I destroy enemy drop uplinks, deploy my own, and hack their CRUs and supply depots. I spot tanks and dropships, pop lone rangers sneaking in for easy hacks, and I countersnipe at extreme distances. I'm often in the top three on my team with over 1000 WP. I can even take down a proto CalLogi or two on a lucky day. All the while I provide accurate, relevant, and timely information to my squad via voice comms.
And I do all that with a sniper rifle and an SMG.
My point in all this is, rage against redline play all you want, but leave my rifle out of it. My suit already got hit three times by the nerfhammer, last thing I need is you jackasses hamstringing my primary weapon too. |
gandalgrey
STRONG-ARMED BANDITS
77
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Posted - 2013.07.27 07:55:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:rofl you have to time your shot....thats real hard to do considering you have all the time in the world and half a map of distance between you and your unknowing target not too mention he is prolly busy in a firefight or actually contributing to the team. There is no such thing as a good sniper or any skill involved in sniping in this game. You went 5/0 with 200 WPs great round sniper.
I love front line sniping and I would like to see you try that and say u dont have to time the shot rather than holding your finger and pointing in the general direction of your enemy |
voidfaction
Void of Faction
24
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Posted - 2013.07.28 13:49:00 -
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I just want the ability to add players to a list that makes them a different color when on my team so when im sniping i know who not to help and let the enemy team kill them rather than waste my time taking out a few of them before they reach them. then i can sit back and watch from 400m as a squad rolls over them over and over again because they suck more than they might realize without that unknown sniper that takes out part or all of the enemy coming for them. front line think snipers are easy mode because we don't run and gun mindlessly. they should make the game where we have 1 life per game so everyone plays to stay alive and then maybe we can get rid of the mindless run and gun tactics the front line mercs play.
sniper radios to front line merc your screwed. front line merc says why? Sniper says becasue you are all alone and the enemy is coming for you and im going to sit here and watch them kill you and after that i will kill them. lol. Now I like those tactics. I play my game and I dont care about a team that dont care about me. |
broonfondle majikthies
P.O.N.A.G.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
53
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Posted - 2013.07.28 13:54:00 -
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Sollemnis Aelinos wrote:broonfondle majikthies wrote:[quote=Crow Splat][quote=broonfondle majikthies]Nova knifers are not exactly in high demand but I've certainly been killed by a couple that demand respect (one was like I was fighting a f***ing Predator!) Should they be made to march on the front line and capture points while under enemy fire? you must have been one of my victims
And so my respect is yours  |
Duck Drahko
DUST University
Ivy League
93
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Posted - 2013.07.28 14:00:00 -
[47] - Quote
Sniping means maximum power at minimum risk. You will be hated, deal with it. :) |
voidfaction
Void of Faction
24
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Posted - 2013.07.28 16:12:00 -
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Derek Maple wrote:Stop hiding in the mountains and take control of the points!
I would never expect snipers if the entirely team is losing when all points are captured and are losing terribly!
I think it should be clear to the other team that they wouldn't be credit if the team loses to the point where snipers are looking for target practice, go play an ambush match if you are looking for target practice!
It's funny but I would say that if I'm playing Skirmish because I want to take control of points and win, I would expect people to take over points and hold those points or to re-capture those points and to get help the team. Not camp and wait for the magic to have the tide change and have the other members of the team getting killed or trying to find ways to take control of the points!
Not only that, I also think they're losing because there like 6 to 8 players (half of the entire team) who are being snipers!, What's the point of entering a skirmish match then?
... and I do think people are abusing it. It's simple, take over the points and win the match!
A sniper is supposed to be hidden mabye you elite cQc players should do your job and take the objectives and leave us snipers to do ours.
if you want a cQc game go play ambush. skirmish is big map where snipers can make use of the long range.
the point of entering a skirmish match as a sniper is bigger maps to make use of long range weapon. what good is a 400m weapon in a 200m battleground? You want cQc then you go to ambush. you want team tacticle play with long range and short range go to skirmish. you want only 2 snipers on your team go PC. I play a sniper in public matches because that is what i enjoy. I dont play cQc because that is what I don't enjoy. this is a game for enjoyment. you want to enjoy your game with no snipers then join a corp and play PC battles that gives you the choice to boot out snipers. I have to play public with the turbo tanks outrunning swarm missles, AFKers, red-line snipers (my favorite enemy targets because unlike all the babies with all the skill my no skill sniper can kill them),
To the sniping takes no skill crowd then what does that say for you when you cant counter snipe them or find them in the hills and stab them in the back? I know what direction im facing when im shot because I dont just mindlessly run and gun. when im killed im then giving the distance, weapon, suit, and dmg of the person that killed me. I then use that to find snipers all day long. mindless no skill front line mercs dont know what direction they are facing half the time but think they are the all skill players that take so much to be good at. I can stand on the side of a hill an entire match in the wide open and no cover and snipe because I know there are more no skill front line mercs that are not skilled enough to find someone standing on the side of a hill killing them over and over. how skilled they look as a laugh killing them over and over and over and over. so much skill it takes to run and gun and come here and cry about snipers.
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Ensar Cael
Svartur Bjorn
4
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Posted - 2013.07.28 18:27:00 -
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Poonmunch wrote:
As a dedicated sniper I heartily agree.
We can do a ton of good hacking points when the fighting is raging someplace else. Plus we get points.
The other team will have to come back to re-hack it (and we can snipe their asses) or their MCCs will get shot up.
Hacking CRUs is also a good way to help the infantry redline the bad guys.
You might lose a clone or two but the risk is well worth the reward.
Munch
THIS^^
I am a dedicated sniper too but I always try to help my squad by shooting in to the heart of the action, providing overwatch/ movement intel, hacking points/ CRU as needed. Its rare when I sit still and potshot redberries. The point of a sniper should be to harrass the enemy, create distractions and provide support to the squad/ team through good recon and sniping.
Much more interesting and challenging to move around the map creating chaos. Always feel proud when I get a bunch of people sent after me for being a real nuisance to their efforts. |
Ensar Cael
Svartur Bjorn
4
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Posted - 2013.07.28 18:31:00 -
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voidfaction wrote:
A sniper is supposed to be hidden mabye you elite cQc players should do your job and take the objectives and leave us snipers to do ours.
if you want a cQc game go play ambush. skirmish is big map where snipers can make use of the long range.
the point of entering a skirmish match as a sniper is bigger maps to make use of long range weapon. what good is a 400m weapon in a 200m battleground? You want cQc then you go to ambush. you want team tacticle play with long range and short range go to skirmish. you want only 2 snipers on your team go PC. I play a sniper in public matches because that is what i enjoy. I dont play cQc because that is what I don't enjoy. this is a game for enjoyment. you want to enjoy your game with no snipers then join a corp and play PC battles that gives you the choice to boot out snipers. I have to play public with the turbo tanks outrunning swarm missles, AFKers, red-line snipers (my favorite enemy targets because unlike all the babies with all the skill my no skill sniper can kill them),
To the sniping takes no skill crowd then what does that say for you when you cant counter snipe them or find them in the hills and stab them in the back? I know what direction im facing when im shot because I dont just mindlessly run and gun. when im killed im then giving the distance, weapon, suit, and dmg of the person that killed me. I then use that to find snipers all day long. mindless no skill front line mercs dont know what direction they are facing half the time but think they are the all skill players that take so much to be good at. I can stand on the side of a hill an entire match in the wide open and no cover and snipe because I know there are more no skill front line mercs that are not skilled enough to find someone standing on the side of a hill killing them over and over. how skilled they look as a laugh killing them over and over and over and over. so much skill it takes to run and gun and come here and cry about snipers.
THIS TOO^^^
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2498
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Posted - 2013.07.28 18:48:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:This shows that the game does not reward winning or losing UNLESS it is a PC battle.
Currently the game rewards you for WP and gives very little extra incentive to actually "win" a match.
especially now that we can no longer call in free LAVs to run over protobears once we've been redlined. |
Nemo Bluntz
TeamPlayers
EoN.
189
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Posted - 2013.07.28 20:27:00 -
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Oh hey, its the exact way I feel about all snipers in all squad shooters I've ever played.  |
Sylwester Dziewiecki
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
117
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Posted - 2013.07.28 22:02:00 -
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Derek Maple wrote:Stop hiding in the mountains and take control of the points!
I would never expect snipers if the entirely team is losing when all points are captured and are losing terribly!
I think it should be clear to the other team that they wouldn't be credit if the team loses to the point where snipers are looking for target practice, go play an ambush match if you are looking for target practice!
It's funny but I would say that if I'm playing Skirmish because I want to take control of points and win, I would expect people to take over points and hold those points or to re-capture those points and to get help the team. Not camp and wait for the magic to have the tide change and have the other members of the team getting killed or trying to find ways to take control of the points!
Not only that, I also think they're losing because there like 6 to 8 players (half of the entire team) who are being snipers!, What's the point of entering a skirmish match then?
... and I do think people are abusing it. It's simple, take over the points and win the match!
A few things:
- First of all, snipers do not have skills in any other thing then sniping, they are fragile and are not suited to take over points.
- Game mechanics is not allowing to take stealthily the good spots in the middle of the map when enemy team have all of the points, as soon as you order DS you are dead-sniper.
- Ambush matches are not for snipers - when your target if focused on taking objective he act differently from guy who want to kill you.
- Bugs prevent us from successfully defending skirmish objectives, occasionally we have to deal with immortal hacker that get none dmg or we have to deal with infantry that melt with the objective texture, or simply invisible people, low-frame rate runners that teleports.
- Match-making system works fine, if you have 6 snipers in the team, opposite side have snipers to.
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
97
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Posted - 2013.07.28 22:07:00 -
[54] - Quote
I dare say the people who hate redline snipers are like the poor pathetic guy on the bike that Carlos Hathcock plinked with his 50 cal way off on a hill while the guy was just riding by. |
Smooth Assassin
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.07.28 22:32:00 -
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Derek Maple wrote:Stop hiding in the mountains and take control of the points!
I would never expect snipers if the entirely team is losing when all points are captured and are losing terribly!
I think it should be clear to the other team that they wouldn't be credit if the team loses to the point where snipers are looking for target practice, go play an ambush match if you are looking for target practice!
It's funny but I would say that if I'm playing Skirmish because I want to take control of points and win, I would expect people to take over points and hold those points or to re-capture those points and to get help the team. Not camp and wait for the magic to have the tide change and have the other members of the team getting killed or trying to find ways to take control of the points!
Not only that, I also think they're losing because there like 6 to 8 players (half of the entire team) who are being snipers!, What's the point of entering a skirmish match then?
... and I do think people are abusing it. It's simple, take over the points and win the match!
Thats what i said! half the team are snipers and its not good. I wish a madrugar goes there way and slaughter them all but the red line is blocking its path |
Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
42
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Posted - 2013.07.28 22:33:00 -
[56] - Quote
Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:Derek Maple wrote:Stop hiding in the mountains and take control of the points!
I would never expect snipers if the entirely team is losing when all points are captured and are losing terribly!
I think it should be clear to the other team that they wouldn't be credit if the team loses to the point where snipers are looking for target practice, go play an ambush match if you are looking for target practice!
It's funny but I would say that if I'm playing Skirmish because I want to take control of points and win, I would expect people to take over points and hold those points or to re-capture those points and to get help the team. Not camp and wait for the magic to have the tide change and have the other members of the team getting killed or trying to find ways to take control of the points!
Not only that, I also think they're losing because there like 6 to 8 players (half of the entire team) who are being snipers!, What's the point of entering a skirmish match then?
... and I do think people are abusing it. It's simple, take over the points and win the match! A few things:
- First of all, snipers do not have skills in any other thing then sniping, they are fragile and are not suited to take over points.
- Game mechanics is not allowing to take stealthily the good spots in the middle of the map when enemy team have all of the points, as soon as you order DS you are dead-sniper.
- Ambush matches are not for snipers - when your target if focused on taking objective he act differently from guy who want to kill you.
- Bugs prevent us from successfully defending skirmish objectives, occasionally we have to deal with immortal hacker that get none dmg or we have to deal with infantry that melt with the objective texture, or simply invisible people, low-frame rate runners that teleports.
- Match-making system works fine, if you have 6 snipers in the team, opposite side have snipers to.
* If you have all SP invested into sniper you are an idiot (I can snipe just as effectively/or even more with 0 training and MLT gear)
* Any spot can be a good spot (you can snipe from 500 meters hello)
* If all you can do is crouch and wait for sway to stop you suck at sniping sorry (learn to CQC snipe or QS) ambush should't stop you from sniping just cause you can't camp an objective
* The bugs and rendering I will give you that but everyone deals with this (forge gunners, railgunners, etc.) |
Sylwester Dziewiecki
Beyond Hypothetical Box
139
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Posted - 2013.08.11 11:22:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:Derek Maple wrote:Stop hiding in the mountains and take control of the points!
I would never expect snipers if the entirely team is losing when all points are captured and are losing terribly!
I think it should be clear to the other team that they wouldn't be credit if the team loses to the point where snipers are looking for target practice, go play an ambush match if you are looking for target practice!
It's funny but I would say that if I'm playing Skirmish because I want to take control of points and win, I would expect people to take over points and hold those points or to re-capture those points and to get help the team. Not camp and wait for the magic to have the tide change and have the other members of the team getting killed or trying to find ways to take control of the points!
Not only that, I also think they're losing because there like 6 to 8 players (half of the entire team) who are being snipers!, What's the point of entering a skirmish match then?
... and I do think people are abusing it. It's simple, take over the points and win the match! A few things:
- First of all, snipers do not have skills in any other thing then sniping, they are fragile and are not suited to take over points.
- Game mechanics is not allowing to take stealthily the good spots in the middle of the map when enemy team have all of the points, as soon as you order DS you are dead-sniper.
- Ambush matches are not for snipers - when your target if focused on taking objective he act differently from guy who want to kill you.
- Bugs prevent us from successfully defending skirmish objectives, occasionally we have to deal with immortal hacker that get none dmg or we have to deal with infantry that melt with the objective texture, or simply invisible people, low-frame rate runners that teleports.
- Match-making system works fine, if you have 6 snipers in the team, opposite side have snipers to.
* If you have all SP invested into sniper you are an idiot (I can snipe just as effectively/or even more with 0 training and MLT gear) * Any spot can be a good spot (you can snipe from 500 meters hello) * If all you can do is crouch and wait for sway to stop you suck at sniping sorry (learn to CQC snipe or QS) ambush should't stop you from sniping just cause you can't camp an objective * The bugs and rendering I will give you that but everyone deals with this (forge gunners, railgunners, etc.) Hahahaaa.. what a BS.
1. If I have a problems with killing some of proto-sentinels because they are constantly pumping by logistics, and I'm trying to do this with full-proto-fit extremely focused on dps.. well it's just prove that your Uber-militia-0-training fit is waste of time, and don't bother to use it .
2. The main characteristic determining good spot is a visibility that it gives, and the angle from which you see the victims - yes you can sit on the red-line hill 500m from victims, but you have cut visability, and you are on the pan for other snipers that have spots on higher altitude and know that lazy ""snipers"" with 0 traning usually choose most easily accessible spots.
3. What Sway?!? O! forgot you are that "0 training sniper" Ambush stopping me from being sniper first of all because I can spawn amog red dots at the beginning and loose dropsuit worth 150k just like that; secondlly ambush have just 50 clones, so when I get to spot to support action of my teammates the match is already in half; thirdly game dynamics, where there is no objective, people don't know where to gather to fight, once they can be on you LoS, secondly God know where.
4. I don't know about FG gunners, but as HAV pilot I usually get hit by invisible units, and when I'm trying to fight from me Optimal Range and I'm without squad, server looks like I'm the only guy playing.
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Jade Hasegawa
Intrepidus XI
EoN.
40
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Posted - 2013.08.11 12:20:00 -
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Wile I get what the OP is saying and I am an assault player, if i have a bunch of scrubs afking in the MCC and teamates with no clue,I am not going to get wound up trying to be the onlly one taking obejctives, so the sniper rifle comes out |
Mirataf
WARRIORS 1NC
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Posted - 2013.08.11 12:22:00 -
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Poonmunch wrote:Derek Maple wrote:Stop hiding in the mountains and take control of the points!
I would never expect snipers if the entirely team is losing when all points are captured and are losing terribly!
I think it should be clear to the other team that they wouldn't be credit if the team loses to the point where snipers are looking for target practice, go play an ambush match if you are looking for target practice!
It's funny but I would say that if I'm playing Skirmish because I want to take control of points and win, I would expect people to take over points and hold those points or to re-capture those points and to get help the team. Not camp and wait for the magic to have the tide change and have the other members of the team getting killed or trying to find ways to take control of the points!
Not only that, I also think they're losing because there like 6 to 8 players (half of the entire team) who are being snipers!, What's the point of entering a skirmish match then?
... and I do think people are abusing it. It's simple, take over the points and win the match! As a dedicated sniper I heartily agree. We can do a ton of good hacking points when the fighting is raging someplace else. Plus we get points. The other team will have to come back to re-hack it (and we can snipe their asses) or their MCCs will get shot up. Hacking CRUs is also a good way to help the infantry redline the bad guys. You might lose a clone or two but the risk is well worth the reward. Munch
QFT
I mean its not as though you folk aren't fairly close to a supply depot to change a suit, mor are you able to drop an uplink near to a vantage point overlooking the location you will be going to so if you get whacked you can return the favour |
N7 Silver Fox
Scouts and Recon
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:23:00 -
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careful N7 Silver Fox is watching you! I am a dedicated sniper but yet i got assualtsuits as well as a madruger tank so ya face me and see where i place on the leader boads on my team
ps. cry me a river you got one shotted by a scout suit big baby come find me i am no red liner |
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