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        |  EMOLANO
 Blackrock Incorporated
 
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      | Posted - 2013.07.25 23:04:00 -
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 What's best to use?
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        |  RedRebelCork
 Ahrendee Mercenaries
 EoN.
 
 207
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.25 23:05:00 -
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 In almost all circumstances shields are superior at this point.
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        |  Jason Pearson
 Seraphim Auxiliaries
 
 2166
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.25 23:12:00 -
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 Vehicles or Infantry?
 
 Vehicles - Armor for other Tanks, Shields for Infantry
 Dropsuits - Shields for everything, Armor to die quickly
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        |  Cosgar
 ParagonX
 
 3196
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.25 23:14:00 -
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 RedRebelCork wrote:In almost all circumstances shields are superior at this point. Damage mods?
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        |  Vicious Minotaur
 Tronhadar Free Guard
 Minmatar Republic
 
 114
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.25 23:15:00 -
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 Armour is factually superior in all ways to shields.
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        |  Halador Osiris
 Dead Six Initiative
 Lokun Listamenn
 
 500
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.25 23:17:00 -
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 With vehicles:
 LAVs: Armor = Shields
 Dropships: Armor < Shields
 HAVs: Armor > Shields
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        |  DRDEEZE TWO POINTO
 Foxhound Corporation
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 64
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.25 23:17:00 -
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 damange > shields and armor.
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        |  Kane Fyea
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 1450
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.25 23:19:00 -
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 If your going infantry try dual tanking. I personally like it.
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        |  Sgt Kirk
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
 987
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.25 23:20:00 -
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 Halador Osiris wrote:With vehicles:LAVs: Armor = Shields
 Dropships: Armor < Shields
 HAVs: Armor > Shields
 
 
 
 The LAV part is extremely wrong.
 
 Only because of the low PG they gave the Methana.
 
 Currently the Caldari (shield) LAV is the best one to use because of the AV weapon situation all being explosive based.
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        |  Xender17
 Intrepidus XI
 EoN.
 
 383
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.25 23:20:00 -
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 Vicious Minotaur wrote:Armour is factually superior in all ways to shields. You mean on paper...
 Or
 You are using the word factually wrong.
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        |  Cosgar
 ParagonX
 
 3198
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.25 23:27:00 -
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 Xender17 wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:Armour is factually superior in all ways to shields. You mean on paper...  Or You are using the word factually wrong. The only thing really hurting armor is that the most commonly used weapons have a 20% damage bonus against armor- grenades. If we had miasma or fusion grenades as the default anti-infantry, armor wouldn't be at such a disadvantage.
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        |  HYENAKILLER X
 Condotta Rouvenor
 Gallente Federation
 
 81
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.25 23:41:00 -
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 Armor.
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        |  Kane Fyea
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 1452
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.25 23:47:00 -
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 Cosgar wrote:Xender17 wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:Armour is factually superior in all ways to shields. You mean on paper...  Or You are using the word factually wrong. The only thing really hurting armor is that the most commonly used weapons have a 20% damage bonus against armor- grenades. If we had miasma or fusion grenades as the default anti-infantry, armor wouldn't be at such a disadvantage. If only more people used scrambler rifles like me. I can strip a proto cal logis shields with one charged shot plus 2 uncharged after that to finish off their little bit of armor.
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        |  Cosgar
 ParagonX
 
 3200
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.25 23:49:00 -
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 Kane Fyea wrote:Cosgar wrote:Xender17 wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:Armour is factually superior in all ways to shields. You mean on paper...  Or You are using the word factually wrong. The only thing really hurting armor is that the most commonly used weapons have a 20% damage bonus against armor- grenades. If we had miasma or fusion grenades as the default anti-infantry, armor wouldn't be at such a disadvantage. If only more people used scrambler rifles like me. I can strip a proto cal logis shields with one charged shot plus 2 uncharged after that to finish off their little bit of armor. Everyone is hung up on easymode ARs...
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        |  Justin Tymes
 Raymond James Corp
 
 247
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.25 23:50:00 -
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 Cosgar wrote:Xender17 wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:Armour is factually superior in all ways to shields. You mean on paper...  Or You are using the word factually wrong. The only thing really hurting armor is that the most commonly used weapons have a 20% damage bonus against armor- grenades. If we had miasma or fusion grenades as the default anti-infantry, armor wouldn't be at such a disadvantage. 
 So we're ignoring armor speed nerf and shield superior recovery without the need for support?
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        |  Eriknaught
 Vader's Taco Shack
 
 116
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.25 23:50:00 -
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 Kane Fyea wrote:If your going infantry try dual tanking. I personally like it. 
 I hate agreeing with an Amarr but this is fact (IMO).
 Duel tanking is where it's at.
 That is all. Eriknaught out. END TRANSMISSION.
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        |  Kane Fyea
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 1453
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.25 23:55:00 -
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 Cosgar wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Cosgar wrote:Xender17 wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:Armour is factually superior in all ways to shields. You mean on paper...  Or You are using the word factually wrong. The only thing really hurting armor is that the most commonly used weapons have a 20% damage bonus against armor- grenades. If we had miasma or fusion grenades as the default anti-infantry, armor wouldn't be at such a disadvantage. If only more people used scrambler rifles like me. I can strip a proto cal logis shields with one charged shot plus 2 uncharged after that to finish off their little bit of armor. Everyone is hung up on easymode ARs... Yea I know. Ever since uprising I've been using Scrambler Rifles. ARs are too boring IMO.
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        |  XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO
 Storm Wind Strikeforce
 Caldari State
 
 147
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.25 23:55:00 -
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 armor
 
 unless your a bleeder
 
 i'd rather be picked up by that 50-80% needle with armor
 
 
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        |  Kane Fyea
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 1453
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.25 23:56:00 -
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 Justin Tymes wrote:Cosgar wrote:Xender17 wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:Armour is factually superior in all ways to shields. You mean on paper...  Or You are using the word factually wrong. The only thing really hurting armor is that the most commonly used weapons have a 20% damage bonus against armor- grenades. If we had miasma or fusion grenades as the default anti-infantry, armor wouldn't be at such a disadvantage. So we're ignoring armor speed nerf and shield superior recovery without the need for support? Us Allotek repair nanohive while armor tanking. You will be stationary but awesome.
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        |  Justin Tymes
 Raymond James Corp
 
 247
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.25 23:59:00 -
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 Kane Fyea wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Cosgar wrote:Xender17 wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:Armour is factually superior in all ways to shields. You mean on paper...  Or You are using the word factually wrong. The only thing really hurting armor is that the most commonly used weapons have a 20% damage bonus against armor- grenades. If we had miasma or fusion grenades as the default anti-infantry, armor wouldn't be at such a disadvantage. So we're ignoring armor speed nerf and shield superior recovery without the need for support? Us Allotek repair nanohive while armor tanking. You will be stationary but awesome. 
 I do. I even use Triage Nanohives on my Logi-Command suit. And it's still inferior to the shield recovery and resistance to explosives. Oh and I can't dodge or jump worth **** compared to shield tankers.
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        |  Cosgar
 ParagonX
 
 3200
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.25 23:59:00 -
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 Kane Fyea wrote:Yea I know. Ever since uprising I've been using Scrambler Rifles. ARs are too boring IMO. Seriously, I've been using the AR since beta and got sick of it in Chrome. First next weapon I tried was the MD since I had so many EXO-5s as salvage and it was true love the moment I pulled the trigger. It's a PITA to aim with and a severe handy cap against "Old reliable," but the fan mail I get makes it all worthwhile.
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        |  Kane Fyea
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 1456
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.26 00:02:00 -
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 Cosgar wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Yea I know. Ever since uprising I've been using Scrambler Rifles. ARs are too boring IMO. Seriously, I've been using the AR since beta and got sick of it in Chrome. First next weapon I tried was the MD since I had so many EXO-5s as salvage and it was true love the moment I pulled the trigger. It's a PITA to aim with and a severe handy cap against "Old reliable," but the fan mail I get makes it all worthwhile. With the Scrambler Rifle I get plenty of fan mail from OHK'ing people. Gotta love them charged shots.
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        |  Dynnen Vvardenfell
 187.
 League of Infamy
 
 24
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.26 00:13:00 -
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 Amor obviously. Because Amor conquers all!
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        |  ADP Silenced
 Kang Lo Directorate
 Gallente Federation
 
 0
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.26 01:08:00 -
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 Let us not forget about CPU usage for both Armor and Shields, which play a big role in deciding what module setup you want...
 
 Armor, due to its less CPU requirement lends for more flexibility when deciding on what mods to consider...For example, 2 damage mods and 2 speed mods can be considered much more easily with room to spare on an armor tank than with shield tanking...
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