DUST Search - Cal Logi OVERKILL?

Xero The Mishima wrote:

Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:

Xero The Mishima wrote:

ZDub 303 wrote:

Don't even bother Xero.

The rest of the forum just wants to point and laugh.

Just kick back in the MCC with some netflix and wait out till the next respec.

Oh I will definitely get cozy in the MCC no doubt about it. In PCs though I still gotta keep the pimp hand strong and powdered. If I knew the Cal Logi was gonna get banged up this bad I would of just went Minmatar. It's gonna be impossible to run support items for my corp now Biotics are killer... Good logic CCP instead of just strong arming players to go support it's just gonna bite you in the behind. I am guessing 75% Cal Logi will just drop all the support tools that help the other players and go PURE slayer. Take a bow you guys are geniuses! You rival Zipper in Epic fail

This is what you just did CCP...

.... so, you used an obviously overpowered suit in a game with a dev studio with a strong track record of nerfs, and you want to claim ignorance?

You made your bed with your FOTM bullshit, now lie in it.

Nerf is one thing but what they just did to the suit was ********. I like your corp please don't speak further ignorance to change that.

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Xero The Mishima Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 257	Posted - 2013.07.24 07:07:00 - [1] - Quote I was fine with the 20 cpu+%s + changing the bonus. I do agree the CalLogi suit was pretty good. Now you are taking away 40 CPU?!?!? Even if I wanted to play the logi suit like it's intended don't you think 40 + %s is way too much? I mean don't get me wrong I will still overcome and get my triple dubs and be able to go Cleveland mode. I just...why stop at 40? Let's go for a cool -100cpu and -100PG? FoxFour or whoever in charge...No matter how hard you try you can't stop me. Won't stop me. I will still get my rebounds and hit my 3s....
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1232	Posted - 2013.07.24 07:10:00 - [2] - Quote Don't even bother Xero. The rest of the forum just wants to point and laugh. Just kick back in the MCC with some netflix and wait out till the next respec.
Xero The Mishima Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 257	Posted - 2013.07.24 07:14:00 - [3] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Don't even bother Xero. The rest of the forum just wants to point and laugh. Just kick back in the MCC with some netflix and wait out till the next respec. Oh I will definitely get cozy in the MCC no doubt about it. In PCs though I still gotta keep the pimp hand strong and powdered. If I knew the Cal Logi was gonna get banged up this bad I would of just went Minmatar. It's gonna be impossible to run support items for my corp now Biotics are killer... Good logic CCP instead of just strong arming players to go support it's just gonna bite you in the behind. I am guessing 75% Cal Logi will just drop all the support tools that help the other players and go PURE slayer. Take a bow you guys are geniuses! You rival Zipper in Epic fail This is what you just did CCP...
CuuCH Crusher Commando Perkone Caldari State 153	Posted - 2013.07.24 07:51:00 - [4] - Quote points and laughs I rarely saw Cal Logis doing any kind of support. Most of you clowns were to busy running around with the fraylock pistol.
Xero The Mishima Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 257	Posted - 2013.07.24 07:52:00 - [5] - Quote CuuCH Crusher wrote: points and laughs I rarely saw Cal Logis doing any kind of support. Most of you clowns were to busy running around with the fraylock pistol. Well Flaylock pistol has nothing to do with me never used one not once. You are gonna see even less support now than you did.
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 327	Posted - 2013.07.24 07:56:00 - [6] - Quote Xero The Mishima wrote: CuuCH Crusher wrote: points and laughs I rarely saw Cal Logis doing any kind of support. Most of you clowns were to busy running around with the fraylock pistol. Well Flaylock pistol has nothing to do with me never used one not once. You are gonna see even less support now than you did. I only saw support with O.H no one uses it for support but nice try maybe in pc but that's it
CuuCH Crusher Commando Perkone Caldari State 153	Posted - 2013.07.24 07:57:00 - [7] - Quote Xero The Mishima wrote: CuuCH Crusher wrote: points and laughs I rarely saw Cal Logis doing any kind of support. Most of you clowns were to busy running around with the fraylock pistol. Well Flaylock pistol has nothing to do with me never used one not once. You are gonna see even less support now than you did. I commend you for not using the flaylock and providing support. That being said, you are in the minority. The majority of Cal Logis use the suit as a slayer suit and couldn't care less about supporting the team.
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion 1059	Posted - 2013.07.24 07:58:00 - [8] - Quote Save these threads for after they make the changes. Sheesh. And if your K/D goes down from 20 to 5 when pubstomping newbcakes, then you have my permission to embarass yourself.
Xero The Mishima Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 257	Posted - 2013.07.24 07:59:00 - [9] - Quote Vyzion Eyri wrote: Save these threads for after they make the changes. Sheesh. And if your K/D goes down from 20 to 5 when pubstomping newbcakes, then you have my permission to embarass yourself. Um, I don't even care about my KDR. The only stat I care for is the win.
xSir Campsalotx D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 31	Posted - 2013.07.24 08:02:00 - [10] - Quote Yes 1 3round flaock would be super deadly. No sidearm remember I usually just see them running duvolles. Plus I do see alot of nonslayer cal logis

Angus McBeanie Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 39	Posted - 2013.07.24 08:03:00 - [11] - Quote You should still be able to fit prototype equipment, extenders. Duvolle might go ahead and be a problem, if you got regulators on. for zdub: I'll use another arguement. Stop whining. I'm Amarr logi and thats been **** since release, though they're finally changing it now in 1.3. So try make it work like the rest of us did instead of pulling the imma sit in MCC card.
xSir Campsalotx D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 31	Posted - 2013.07.24 08:03:00 - [12] - Quote Hey if you run a 5kd that's still pretty damn good.
Xero The Mishima Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 257	Posted - 2013.07.24 08:04:00 - [13] - Quote xSir Campsalotx wrote: Hey if you run a 5kd that's still pretty damn good. I got just over a 6 rushing like a madman 80% of the time.
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion 1059	Posted - 2013.07.24 08:06:00 - [14] - Quote Xero The Mishima wrote: Vyzion Eyri wrote: Save these threads for after they make the changes. Sheesh. And if your K/D goes down from 20 to 5 when pubstomping newbcakes, then you have my permission to embarass yourself. Um, I don't even care about my KDR. The only stat I care for is the win. Well I assume you run prototype suits? Since they're the only ones losing 40 CPU. And you stack extenders? Because that's the only way to really hit that CPU cap, combined with equipment. Obviously, stacking extenders isn't viable now. What other options do you have? Empty slots, degrading to advanced/basic extenders, or precision enhancers for high slots. What IS viable, however, is running one or two advanced or complex shield REGULATORS, which brings your shield recharge rates down ridiculously low (especially with the level 5 shield regulator bonus WHICH NO ONE SEEMS TO NOTICE) to the point where you've essentially got your passive shield recharge rate of 20hp/s going at all times except 2-4 seconds after taking damage. And if you can't get to cover for 2-4 seconds, you don't deserve a win.
OZAROW A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 223	Posted - 2013.07.24 08:08:00 - [15] - Quote I love it bawwwhaaa, I think I been picked up only by my corp ever since these suits came out! Welcome to the scout life, lose two slots, have no CPU or pg, stamina takes a crap an the hit box becomes the size of a school bus! Not your fault but there wasn't one thread posted by a guy that didn't run scout an asking them to fix it , so now that I see this, I ll do the same
Xero The Mishima Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 258	Posted - 2013.07.24 08:12:00 - [16] - Quote Vyzion Eyri wrote: Xero The Mishima wrote: Vyzion Eyri wrote: Save these threads for after they make the changes. Sheesh. And if your K/D goes down from 20 to 5 when pubstomping newbcakes, then you have my permission to embarass yourself. Um, I don't even care about my KDR. The only stat I care for is the win. Well I assume you run prototype suits? Since they're the only ones losing 40 CPU. And you stack extenders? Because that's the only way to really hit that CPU cap, combined with equipment. Obviously, stacking extenders isn't viable now. What other options do you have? Empty slots, degrading to advanced/basic extenders, or precision enhancers for high slots. What IS viable, however, is running one or two advanced or complex shield REGULATORS, which brings your shield recharge rates down ridiculously low (especially with the level 5 shield regulator bonus WHICH NO ONE SEEMS TO NOTICE) to the point where you've essentially got your passive shield recharge rate of 20hp/s going at all times except 2-4 seconds after taking damage. And if you can't get to cover for 2-4 seconds, you don't deserve a win. You are talking to me like I just run AR. My pub build will be fine, it's not hard to smack up unorganized blueberries. I run all C. Shield Extenders because running a damage mod on a shotgun is pretty pointless. I also have to run lots of Biotics for speed and stamina. I started running Proto only because in PC I have made so much ISK that I never run out. I sale ISK for cash (His name will remain anonymous) I have over 1k PC fittings. I used to run Advanced all the time though. My gear doesn't make me by any means.
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 317	Posted - 2013.07.24 08:15:00 - [17] - Quote They said they'd have something for all kinds of AFK. Wonder what that'll be...
Xero The Mishima Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 258	Posted - 2013.07.24 08:16:00 - [18] - Quote ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: They said they'd have something for all kinds of AFK. Wonder what that'll be... I doubt in this patch. Even if they do can always go into Ambush and just hide in the mountains or something. Where there's a WILL there's a way.
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 147	Posted - 2013.07.24 08:18:00 - [19] - Quote use a damn complex cpu chip like the minmitar
Icedslayer SVER True Blood 99	Posted - 2013.07.24 08:18:00 - [20] - Quote Xero The Mishima wrote: I was fine with the 20 cpu+%s + changing the bonus. I do agree the CalLogi suit was pretty good. Now you are taking away 40 CPU?!?!? Even if I wanted to play the logi suit like it's intended don't you think 40 + %s is way too much? I mean don't get me wrong I will still overcome and get my triple dubs and be able to go Cleveland mode. I just...why stop at 40? Let's go for a cool -100cpu and -100PG? FoxFour or whoever in charge...No matter how hard you try you can't stop me. Won't stop me. I will still get my rebounds and hit my 3s.... You have how many Hi and Low slots to play with? i mean seriously, how about you play in the life of the scout for just one day and then you'll be happy with what you got.

Zyrus Amalomyn Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 235	Posted - 2013.07.24 08:21:00 - [21] - Quote Xero The Mishima wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Don't even bother Xero. The rest of the forum just wants to point and laugh. Just kick back in the MCC with some netflix and wait out till the next respec. Oh I will definitely get cozy in the MCC no doubt about it. In PCs though I still gotta keep the pimp hand strong and powdered. If I knew the Cal Logi was gonna get banged up this bad I would of just went Minmatar. It's gonna be impossible to run support items for my corp now Biotics are killer... Good logic CCP instead of just strong arming players to go support it's just gonna bite you in the behind. I am guessing 75% Cal Logi will just drop all the support tools that help the other players and go PURE slayer. Take a bow you guys are geniuses! You rival Zipper in Epic fail This is what you just did CCP... .... so, you used an obviously overpowered suit in a game with a dev studio with a strong track record of nerfs, and you want to claim ignorance? You made your bed with your FOTM bullshit, now lie in it.
White Mortadela The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 45	Posted - 2013.07.24 08:21:00 - [22] - Quote The man makes the suit, the suit never made the man, ill just use a complex cpu upgrade instead of the basic and still own and play support at the same time ;). As for you xero just scrap a c.shield for a enc. Or even basic
Xero The Mishima Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 258	Posted - 2013.07.24 08:22:00 - [23] - Quote Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: Xero The Mishima wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Don't even bother Xero. The rest of the forum just wants to point and laugh. Just kick back in the MCC with some netflix and wait out till the next respec. Oh I will definitely get cozy in the MCC no doubt about it. In PCs though I still gotta keep the pimp hand strong and powdered. If I knew the Cal Logi was gonna get banged up this bad I would of just went Minmatar. It's gonna be impossible to run support items for my corp now Biotics are killer... Good logic CCP instead of just strong arming players to go support it's just gonna bite you in the behind. I am guessing 75% Cal Logi will just drop all the support tools that help the other players and go PURE slayer. Take a bow you guys are geniuses! You rival Zipper in Epic fail This is what you just did CCP... .... so, you used an obviously overpowered suit in a game with a dev studio with a strong track record of nerfs, and you want to claim ignorance? You made your bed with your FOTM bullshit, now lie in it. Nerf is one thing but what they just did to the suit was ********. I like your corp please don't speak further ignorance to change that.
Xero The Mishima Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 258	Posted - 2013.07.24 08:23:00 - [24] - Quote White Mortadela wrote: The man makes the suit, the suit never made the man, ill just use a complex cpu upgrade instead of the basic and still own and play support at the same time ;). As for you xero just scrap a c.shield for a enc. Or even basic That is what I am gonna do. I am not saying I am gonna be **** now. I am merely pointing out that the nerf is overkill. I will still make it work, I am not crying for respec or anything like that. Only trying to show CCP the light that the nerf may be TOO much. A nerf was expected but not this OVERKILL they are passing off to be a nerf.
Zyrus Amalomyn Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 235	Posted - 2013.07.24 09:28:00 - [25] - Quote Xero The Mishima wrote: Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: Xero The Mishima wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Don't even bother Xero. The rest of the forum just wants to point and laugh. Just kick back in the MCC with some netflix and wait out till the next respec. Oh I will definitely get cozy in the MCC no doubt about it. In PCs though I still gotta keep the pimp hand strong and powdered. If I knew the Cal Logi was gonna get banged up this bad I would of just went Minmatar. It's gonna be impossible to run support items for my corp now Biotics are killer... Good logic CCP instead of just strong arming players to go support it's just gonna bite you in the behind. I am guessing 75% Cal Logi will just drop all the support tools that help the other players and go PURE slayer. Take a bow you guys are geniuses! You rival Zipper in Epic fail This is what you just did CCP... .... so, you used an obviously overpowered suit in a game with a dev studio with a strong track record of nerfs, and you want to claim ignorance? You made your bed with your FOTM bullshit, now lie in it. Nerf is one thing but what they just did to the suit was ********. I like your corp please don't speak further ignorance to change that. I'm speaking for myself here, not my corp. We'll see if the nerf was overkill in time. As it is, the thing needed a nerf.
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 327	Posted - 2013.07.24 09:36:00 - [26] - Quote xSir Campsalotx wrote: Hey if you run a 5kd that's still pretty damn good. 9.3 I was minmatar assault then switched to cal ass this week
CrotchGrab 360 187. League of Infamy 150	Posted - 2013.07.24 11:28:00 - [27] - Quote Xero The Mishima wrote: I was fine with the 20 cpu+%s + changing the bonus. I do agree the CalLogi suit was pretty good. Now you are taking away 40 CPU?!?!? Even if I wanted to play the logi suit like it's intended don't you think 40 + %s is way too much? I mean don't get me wrong I will still overcome and get my triple dubs and be able to go Cleveland mode. I just...why stop at 40? Let's go for a cool -100cpu and -100PG? FoxFour or whoever in charge...No matter how hard you try you can't stop me. Won't stop me. I will still get my rebounds and hit my 3s.... -40 CPU? 40?! I run the GEK on an advanced suit so I'm not tryharding or shield tanking. I have standard nanohives and when I get home today will have advanced level uplinks. so now I'd have to either upgrade CPU to full (probably won't equate to 40 CPU) or ditch all my shields. It seems like now logistics will only be logistics. As in completely useless in firefights and with no shield. You may be a support player but you will have no survivability. You won't be able to kill anyone on your way to support your team. With -40 CPU you will literally spawn, drop support equipment, and then die. Another stupid decision by CCP.
CrotchGrab 360 187. League of Infamy 150	Posted - 2013.07.24 11:30:00 - [28] - Quote Xero The Mishima wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Don't even bother Xero. The rest of the forum just wants to point and laugh. Just kick back in the MCC with some netflix and wait out till the next respec. Oh I will definitely get cozy in the MCC no doubt about it. In PCs though I still gotta keep the pimp hand strong and powdered. If I knew the Cal Logi was gonna get banged up this bad I would of just went Minmatar. It's gonna be impossible to run support items for my corp now Biotics are killer... Good logic CCP instead of just strong arming players to go support it's just gonna bite you in the behind. I am guessing 75% Cal Logi will just drop all the support tools that help the other players and go PURE slayer. Take a bow you guys are geniuses! You rival Zipper in Epic fail This is what you just did CCP... that's exactly what will happen. exactly what will happen, every step CCP take is another precarious move towards the cliff-edge. and it's crumbling. to be honest I specced into proto logi just to have lots of shields but I found myself getting a lot of satisfaction from supporting the team. I guess not anymore. may as well stop dumping my SP into support right now.


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