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Gogo O'Dell Psygod9 RISE of LEGION 47	Posted - 2013.07.24 06:02:00 - [1] - Quote Radius was fine. Direct damage was fine. Reduce splash to 60 on proto and rounds in clip to 2 in proto and we have a decent sidearm that requires skill to use BC that little splash won't mean jack to even an adv armor tank. Now it is useless and people wasted about a month of their time on it. Don't get me wrong, it was OP, but no need to slaughter it with the nerf hammer in front of its family. Well...we'll just add it to the list of bad things: -lolcannon -derpship -laser pointer +flaylock (I wanted to put tanks on there but I'll wait until 1.4 when armor reps get "balanced" for that one)
Xender17 Intrepidus XI EoN. 361	Posted - 2013.07.24 06:03:00 - [2] - Quote Good. You all deserve wasted SP.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 36	Posted - 2013.07.24 06:14:00 - [3] - Quote lol, stop complaining, I still use the laser rifle and still get top 3 of the board with the std version. Maybe get better at the game?
Thumb Green THE STAR BORN Dark Taboo 220	Posted - 2013.07.24 06:15:00 - [4] - Quote Not surprising to see a member of psygod whining like this after his OP toy got nerfed. It'll only be useless to unskilled players; those with skill will still have no problem wrecking people with it.
Cosgar ParagonX 3150	Posted - 2013.07.24 06:18:00 - [5] - Quote Xender17 wrote: Good. You all deserve wasted SP. What about the people that like using it because it's a fun weapon? The TAC AR got re-balanced to the point that people that used it properly are still using it, why not the same for the flaylock, or any game mechanic for that matter? I'm not going to draw any conclusions yet until I get my hands on it, but I do feel they didn't address the two problems I found being on both sides of the weapon- spam and accessibility. The flaylock is too easy to fit and the RoF is exceptionally high which encouraged people to blob together throwing rockets. This is still going to happen, but the only exception is that you might have the slightest chance to survive. But again, this is just speculation. We'll all just have to wait until next week.
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 834	Posted - 2013.07.24 06:22:00 - [6] - Quote Splash damage is still better than a proto mass driver (Freedom). Also the reduced stats they showed were from the std flaylock, proto will have even better than 165 direct and 140 splash (especially once you factor in any bonuses). Less radius means you have to aim, and any sidearm should only be used as a finisher or as a last resort, never as a main means of attack (unless you're skilled enough to do so and the weapon isn't OP).
dday3six Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 112	Posted - 2013.07.24 06:55:00 - [7] - Quote No OP, no it won't. Flaylock will function like a sidearm, e.i, back-up weapon as it's suppose to.
Bob Teller Red Star. EoN. 43	Posted - 2013.07.24 07:02:00 - [8] - Quote Gogo O'Dell wrote: Radius was fine. Direct damage was fine. Reduce splash to 60 on proto and rounds in clip to 2 in proto and we have a decent sidearm that requires skill to use BC that little splash won't mean jack to even an adv armor tank. Now it is useless and people wasted about a month of their time on it. Don't get me wrong, it was OP, but no need to slaughter it with the nerf hammer in front of its family. Well...we'll just add it to the list of bad things: -lolcannon -derpship -laser pointer +flaylock (I wanted to put tanks on there but I'll wait until 1.4 when armor reps get "balanced" for that one) I found one!!!! a flaylock user that is actually crying on the forums,HERE LOOK AT HIM
xSir Campsalotx D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 32	Posted - 2013.07.24 08:08:00 - [9] - Quote Ha I'm out of pc battles until these weapons are balanced.
HYENAKILLER X Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 76	Posted - 2013.07.24 08:38:00 - [10] - Quote So the laser rifle was used by clowns with no skill? How is that possible seeing how you have to actually aim the laser rifle? Also since when could laser tifle spam kill 5 guys behind cover with 3 shots? I am offended by this post. The flaylock is in its own league of clown far bayond and rifle type .

Xero The Mishima Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 258	Posted - 2013.07.24 08:41:00 - [11] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: lol, stop complaining, I still use the laser rifle and still get top 3 of the board with the std version. Maybe get better at the game? Oh no, you make top3 in pubs?!?! You must be pretty good..
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 1425	Posted - 2013.07.24 08:45:00 - [12] - Quote Xero The Mishima wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: lol, stop complaining, I still use the laser rifle and still get top 3 of the board with the std version. Maybe get better at the game? Oh no, you make top3 in pubs?!?! You must be pretty good.. I use the laser rifle. I get good scores with it and I only use the standard version.
Kinky Burrito A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 103	Posted - 2013.07.24 09:03:00 - [13] - Quote I think it should have been nerfed more.
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 317	Posted - 2013.07.24 09:57:00 - [14] - Quote dday3six wrote: No OP, no it won't. Flaylock will function like a sidearm, e.i, back-up weapon as it's suppose to. But, then how will I dual-wield my proto-exgodlocks?
Moselder Telend Not Guilty EoN. 0	Posted - 2013.07.24 10:20:00 - [15] - Quote Xero The Mishima wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: lol, stop complaining, I still use the laser rifle and still get top 3 of the board with the std version. Maybe get better at the game? Oh no, you make top3 in pubs?!?! You must be pretty good.. I can also post on my main who uses scramblers and tell ya I kick ass in PC as well.
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY 345	Posted - 2013.07.24 10:21:00 - [16] - Quote Core flaylock was too much, but a level 3 flaylock is a good weapon in good hands, if you know what i mean....
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1753	Posted - 2013.07.24 11:09:00 - [17] - Quote Good you deserve a piece of junk.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 812	Posted - 2013.07.24 11:23:00 - [18] - Quote Gogo O'Dell wrote: Radius was fine. Direct damage was fine. Reduce splash to 60 on proto and rounds in clip to 2 in proto and we have a decent sidearm that requires skill to use BC that little splash won't mean jack to even an adv armor tank. Now it is useless and people wasted about a month of their time on it. Don't get me wrong, it was OP, but no need to slaughter it with the nerf hammer in front of its family. Well...we'll just add it to the list of bad things: -lolcannon -derpship -laser pointer +flaylock (I wanted to put tanks on there but I'll wait until 1.4 when armor reps get "balanced" for that one) Not reall the direct damage was in need of some nerf not as heavy handed as the nerf we got I was thinking around about 20 points taking its damage to 198. However the current splash and splash damage nerfs are fine and well implemented. @ OP if you aren't an armour tanker then you really don't have any business critiquing and weapon designed to take out armour. Flaylock is a side arm not a main and if should act like one.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 812	Posted - 2013.07.24 11:24:00 - [19] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: So the laser rifle was used by clowns with no skill? How is that possible seeing how you have to actually aim the laser rifle? Also since when could laser tifle spam kill 5 guys behind cover with 3 shots? I am offended by this post. The flaylock is in its own league of clown far bayond and rifle type . You mean all those with any current semblance of skill this build right? The laser was and still is a great weapon.
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster 85	Posted - 2013.07.24 11:47:00 - [20] - Quote Gogo O'Dell wrote: but no need to slaughter it with the nerf hammer in front of its family. A message had to be sent and what is a better way to send one than slaughtering Flaylock in front of it's family with the dreaded nerf hammer? It's (more) balanced now and requires skill to pop suits left and right unlike it's current state where it kills everything with it's ridiculous splash dmg and somewhat ridiculous splash radius :\|

Gogo O'Dell Psygod9 RISE of LEGION 49	Posted - 2013.07.24 15:16:00 - [21] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Not surprising to see a member of psygod whining like this after his OP toy got nerfed. It'll only be useless to unskilled players; those with skill will still have no problem wrecking people with it. I'm not in Psygod. Anyone who is anyone knows whose alt this is.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 257	Posted - 2013.07.24 15:22:00 - [22] - Quote True Adamance wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: So the laser rifle was used by clowns with no skill? How is that possible seeing how you have to actually aim the laser rifle? Also since when could laser tifle spam kill 5 guys behind cover with 3 shots? I am offended by this post. The flaylock is in its own league of clown far bayond and rifle type . You mean all those with any current semblance of skill this build right? The laser was and still is a great weapon. Really???? Well thank God we dont ever see it
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1873	Posted - 2013.07.24 15:28:00 - [23] - Quote You know, if every weapon sucks, wouldn't that mean they're balanced?
Thumb Green THE STAR BORN Dark Taboo 221	Posted - 2013.07.24 15:35:00 - [24] - Quote Your alt is you. Gogo O'Dell wrote: Anyone who is anyone knows whose alt this is. Lol, ok if that makes you feel as if you're important. But anyone who is anyone doesn't care what your main is; only that you were too much of a coward to post this topic with it. Again not surprising coming from a psygod member.
Malkai Inos Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 839	Posted - 2013.07.24 15:37:00 - [25] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: You know, if every weapon sucks, wouldn't that mean they're balanced? mind blown
Cosgar ParagonX 3157	Posted - 2013.07.24 15:45:00 - [26] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: You know, if every weapon sucks, wouldn't that mean they're balanced? It means we'll all get our asses kicked in PVE... until they nerf that. Then Dust 514 can be the first AAA pillow fight. But you know what? People will probably complain that foam pillows are OP while others will think the same of feathers and a select few will stick to buckwheat even if it could use a buff.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3046	Posted - 2013.07.24 15:48:00 - [27] - Quote dmg and splash radius was fine? lol... talk about wanting to hold on to a crutch. I had proto Flaylocks, and I'm glad they nerfed it.
Cosgar ParagonX 3158	Posted - 2013.07.24 16:35:00 - [28] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: dmg and splash radius was fine? lol... talk about wanting to hold on to a crutch. I had proto Flaylocks, and I'm glad they nerfed it. Did you like it when the HMG got nerf to its damage as a way of balancing, breaking it while the TAC AR got a nerf to its DPS while it remained usable with sufficient drawbacks? I think the issue with the flaylock was the ability to spam it. If the RoF and reload speed were adjusted, while ammo capacity was scaled proportionately between the breach/standard while the specialists had less ammo, similar to the SG, it could remain as a highly damaging weapon. What keeps the MD balanced is the fact that you can't spam shots and the ammo is dangerously low. The same could have worked for the flaylock.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 257	Posted - 2013.07.24 17:00:00 - [29] - Quote Reload speed is fine - same reload speed as ScR (iirc). Any idiot who couldnt kill an FP user during a reload deserved their fate. The issue was splash and people "dual wielding" RoF and splash damage should have been their first move. Also giving Core same radius as adv. That would have made it their "skill shot" weapon. What they have done is stuck it nicely into that complimentary finisher some on here talk about but is that fair because a pistol user doesnt need another weapon if they are skilled and an smg doesnt need another weapon if they sunk enough SP into that weapon. If that is what they intend for the weapon then come out and say it - I think the deliberate non balance of the CPU/PG says that but dont give us that crap about skill shot. With those new stats you will most likely have to fire and reload and then fire a couple more times unless use a flux and the opponent freezes.
Gogo O'Dell Psygod9 RISE of LEGION 56	Posted - 2013.07.24 18:51:00 - [30] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Your alt is you. Gogo O'Dell wrote: Anyone who is anyone knows whose alt this is. Lol, ok if that makes you feel as if you're important. But anyone who is anyone doesn't care what your main is; only that you were too much of a coward to post this topic with it. Again not surprising coming from a psygod member. Sorry. Guess you weren't here for the beta. Anyway, all the big dogs know my main, but I'm Charlotte....the king of qq. The Malcolm x of tanks. The Great and Powerful O'Dell!!!!!!! Lol ... brohoof and I'm not in Psygods but whatever.



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