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IceShifter Childhaspawn
DUST University Ivy League
154
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Posted - 2013.07.24 00:11:00 -
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Okay, I surrender. No more arguing. The nerf hammer will always fall. The AR is the 'standard setting' weapon. Nerfs will always happen, opinion of the majority wins: I get it, I give up.
I can only hope the the vision CCP has of DUST is worth the letdown of the nerf bat. I can only trust that one day the pillow fighters in space will do something useful like procreate and get more players into our not quite so hardcore game.
I still have faith in CCP, but not in any of you. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3007
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Posted - 2013.07.24 00:13:00 -
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So they nerfed something that was clearly OP and clearly too good as a secondary weapon and you cry a river about it?
They nerfed the amount of contact nades you can spam, and you mad?
How about shooting a gun and not spam explosives everywhere maybe?
Not to worry though, the MD is still there. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6465
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Posted - 2013.07.24 00:15:00 -
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Learn 2 Cook. |
Kalante Schiffer
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
351
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Posted - 2013.07.24 00:16:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:So they nerfed something that was clearly OP and clearly too good as a secondary weapon and you cry a river about it?
They nerfed the amount of contact nades you can spam, and you mad?
How about shooting a gun and not spam explosives everywhere maybe?
Not to worry though, the MD is still there. dust university.. what ya expect. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
966
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Posted - 2013.07.24 00:19:00 -
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:So they nerfed something that was clearly OP and clearly too good as a secondary weapon and you cry a river about it?
They nerfed the amount of contact nades you can spam, and you mad?
How about shooting a gun and not spam explosives everywhere maybe?
Not to worry though, the MD is still there. dust university.. what ya expect. its not as the PRO guys... are they even around still? |
Promethius Franklin
DUST University Ivy League
102
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Posted - 2013.07.24 00:32:00 -
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:So they nerfed something that was clearly OP and clearly too good as a secondary weapon and you cry a river about it?
They nerfed the amount of contact nades you can spam, and you mad?
How about shooting a gun and not spam explosives everywhere maybe?
Not to worry though, the MD is still there. dust university.. what ya expect. I know this may come as a surprise, but we are allowed to have differing opinions. I for one look forward to how this changes things up. |
IceShifter Childhaspawn
DUST University Ivy League
154
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Posted - 2013.07.24 01:04:00 -
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Nope. No crying. No arguing. Caldari. Assault. AR. SMG. Got it. Moving on. |
Promethius Franklin
DUST University Ivy League
103
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Posted - 2013.07.24 01:30:00 -
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IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:Nope. No crying. No arguing. Caldari. Assault. AR. SMG. Got it. Moving on. Which is somehow worse than Flaylock x2 > All right? I've never been 2 shot killed by an AR with no reaction chance from full health just by a cal logi aiming at their feet. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
4224
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Posted - 2013.07.24 01:33:00 -
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No more nerfs just balance it right |
Promethius Franklin
DUST University Ivy League
103
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Posted - 2013.07.24 01:42:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:No more nerfs just balance it right But balance would require OP things be nerfed. How do we solve this contradiction? |
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XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
4225
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Posted - 2013.07.24 01:46:00 -
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Promethius Franklin wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:No more nerfs just balance it right But balance would require OP things be nerfed. How do we solve this contradiction?
And under power weapon get buff to were it is balanced |
IceShifter Childhaspawn
DUST University Ivy League
155
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Posted - 2013.07.24 01:47:00 -
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You're missing the point. Which is my fault I grant you. Look at the graphs again. The ones from the Dev Blog. Here Dev Blog
Ill help even further, read the two variable being charted Flaylock Graph
Its kills over time mate. It doubled. As everyone and their grandmother started to use the flaylock, the kills only doubled. They nerfed it because of its popularity, same as the MD before it. Perception. Thats all it took.
So really, I give up. Im going to do what everyone else does. Because it will be that way for long enough that I will get better at it. |
Promethius Franklin
DUST University Ivy League
103
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Posted - 2013.07.24 01:48:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Promethius Franklin wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:No more nerfs just balance it right But balance would require OP things be nerfed. How do we solve this contradiction? And under power weapon get buff to were it is balanced That leaves the suits and defensive mods unbalanced against incoming DPS. It also means buffing weapons with both infantry and AV applications, and I'm sure tankers would love the idea of a forge gun buff, given how OP they think they currently are. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
4225
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Posted - 2013.07.24 01:50:00 -
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Stay strong |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
4225
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Posted - 2013.07.24 01:51:00 -
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Promethius Franklin wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Promethius Franklin wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:No more nerfs just balance it right But balance would require OP things be nerfed. How do we solve this contradiction? And under power weapon get buff to were it is balanced That leaves the suits and defensive mods unbalanced against incoming DPS. It also means buffing weapons with both infantry and AV applications, and I'm sure tankers would love the idea of a forge gun buff, given how OP they think they currently are.
It all gets Balanced |
Promethius Franklin
DUST University Ivy League
103
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Posted - 2013.07.24 01:56:00 -
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IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:You're missing the point. Which is my fault I grant you. Look at the graphs again. The ones from the Dev Blog. Here Dev BlogIll help even further, read the two variable being charted Flaylock GraphIts kills over time mate. It went just over doubled. As everyone and their grandmother started to use the flaylock, the kills little more than doubled. They nerfed it because of its popularity, same as the MD before it. Perception. Thats all it took. So really, I give up. Im going to do what everyone else does. Because it will be that way for long enough that I will get better at it. Ok, I'm looking at the same graph and don't see the criteria presented to support your conclusion. Lets remember that at a point near the sharpest increase depicted that there was a fix for splash damage detection which could account for a large portion of it. Also we don't know if the number of people using it greatly increased in the same timeframe as we don't have a kills/user graph or even just number of users fielding it along side that graph.
This is a somewhat sudden increase here, not gradual adoption. People probably didn't just realize it existed at the beginning of the month and had plenty of time to go proto prior. |
Promethius Franklin
DUST University Ivy League
104
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Posted - 2013.07.24 01:59:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:It all gets Balanced No, it all gets buffed, except that one element, which is a nerf in reality but gives people bigger numbers to play with I guess and may not feel like anything was taken away. In reality it was, but I guess we're just that easy a crowd that we'd buy it considering the no nerf mentality. |
THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Pure Innocence.
118
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Posted - 2013.07.24 02:02:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Learn 2 Cook. Dude I'd say 60-70 percent of the people on these forums think you're full of sh*t, and this is part of the reason, you get on here and insta troll this guy despite your position as CPM, all the other sh*t you do is bad in and of its own but obvious trolling should get you removed from your position, god wtf whats CCP thinking. |
Shikabane Ouji
Ultramarine Corp
0
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Posted - 2013.07.24 02:10:00 -
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IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote: They nerfed it because of its popularity, same as the MD before it.
I'll just leave this here... |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3020
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Posted - 2013.07.24 02:25:00 -
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IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:You're missing the point. Which is my fault I grant you. Look at the graphs again. The ones from the Dev Blog. Here Dev BlogIll help even further, read the two variable being charted Flaylock GraphIts kills over time mate. It went just over double. As everyone and their grandmother started to use the flaylock, the kills little more than doubled. They nerfed it because of its popularity, same as the MD before it. Perception. Thats all it took. So really, I give up. Im going to do what everyone else does. Because it will be that way for long enough that I will get better at it.
Have you ever played a competitive PC game? I don't mean to sound like some elite FPS, but if you did, you'd have realized how much this nerf was needed. |
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3021
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Posted - 2013.07.24 02:27:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Learn 2 Cook. Dude I'd say 60-70 percent of the people on these forums think you're full of sh*t, and this is part of the reason, you get on here and insta troll this guy despite your position as CPM, all the other sh*t you do is bad in and of its own but obvious trolling should get you removed from your position, god wtf whats CCP thinking.
It's a friendly troll dude... just troll him back. I'm no fan of some of the CPM members but dayum!
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5452
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Posted - 2013.07.24 02:34:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Learn 2 Cook. Your little blurb posts tend to be offputting to me, but this?
Classic
L2C indeed, a skill I mastered many moons ago
I do however sympathize with players just trying to play the game who end up having their builds randomly obliterated by CCP, without so much as a friendly reach around. That habit might fly in space, but here on the ground things are much more boring overall, and its just going to drive more of our tiny playerbase away.
:/ |
hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
144
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Posted - 2013.07.24 02:40:00 -
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The flaylock needed a nerf. Hell flaylockers agreed with it... |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
4226
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Posted - 2013.07.24 03:50:00 -
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Promethius Franklin wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:It all gets Balanced No, it all gets buffed, except that one element, which is a nerf in reality but gives people bigger numbers to play with I guess and may not feel like anything was taken away. In reality it was, but I guess we're just that easy a crowd that we'd buy it considering the no nerf mentality.
So you don't want it to finally be balance |
Captain Wontubulous
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
23
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Posted - 2013.07.24 04:12:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:The flaylock needed a nerf. Hell flaylockers agreed with it...
Yeah, many knew even before the flaylocks were released. I heard more than one person say in the first week "Yeah, this is getting nerfed. This is getting nerfed HARD." I'm surprised they actually stayed the way they were for so long. I honestly think too many people couldn't figure out how to use them for the longest time. |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
24
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Posted - 2013.07.24 04:43:00 -
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IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:Okay, I surrender. No more arguing. The nerf hammer will always fall. The AR is the 'standard setting' weapon. Nerfs will always happen, opinion of the majority wins: I get it, I give up.
I can only hope the the vision CCP has of DUST is worth the letdown of the nerf bat. I can only trust that one day the pillow fighters in space will do something useful like procreate and get more players into our not quite so hardcore game.
I still have faith in CCP, but not in any of you.
prety much , this forum makes dust514 worse
dust514 is getting dumbed down into a CoD clone
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Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
107
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Posted - 2013.07.24 05:17:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Learn 2 Cook. Dude I'd say 60-70 percent of the people on these forums think you're full of sh*t, and this is part of the reason, you get on here and insta troll this guy despite your position as CPM, all the other sh*t you do is bad in and of its own but obvious trolling should get you removed from your position, god wtf whats CCP thinking. I wanna say he meant "learn 2 cook" grenades, but u never know with him. |
Promethius Franklin
DUST University Ivy League
105
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Posted - 2013.07.24 06:24:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Promethius Franklin wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:It all gets Balanced No, it all gets buffed, except that one element, which is a nerf in reality but gives people bigger numbers to play with I guess and may not feel like anything was taken away. In reality it was, but I guess we're just that easy a crowd that we'd buy it considering the no nerf mentality. So you don't want it to finally be balance I do, which is why I accept nerfs to that end. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
36
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Posted - 2013.07.24 06:28:00 -
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I like how when CCP nerfs scouts very little complain but god, should they touch anything OP people will non stop ***** and complain. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
710
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Posted - 2013.07.24 06:32:00 -
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Promethius Franklin wrote:IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:Nope. No crying. No arguing. Caldari. Assault. AR. SMG. Got it. Moving on. Which is somehow worse than Flaylock x2 > All right? I've never been 2 shot killed by an AR with no reaction chance from full health just by a cal logi aiming at their feet. If you are getting killed by calogis using a flaylock then you suck. I can't imagine anyone running a flaylock as a primary with no sidearm. |
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