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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers EoN.
946
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Posted - 2013.07.24 13:43:00 -
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fahrenheitM wrote:Aqua-Regia wrote:
If a indie corp has no TEST-IC-LES to fight, it will die for being weak and any Vet corp that attack a indie corp for no reason are only trolls.
Everyone is scared of feeling TP's wrath, since they run everything, no?
honestly from a lot of the mails I get you would think so.
here's a universal disclaimer:
'Team Players only sells lands and gets new corps settled. At this point Team Players has NOTHING to do with indie corps. We are available for hire just as many others are, but we do not influence politics, grease wheels, or otherwise get involved with any of the corps after they have gotten settled'
thank you |
CPL Bloodstone
Neanderthal Nation
125
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Posted - 2013.07.24 13:54:00 -
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TXSnowman wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:CPL Bloodstone wrote:Ill try get this conversation back on topic.
We are attacking each other but very lightly. The underlying issue is that if an indie corp attacks another indy corp, we cannot bring ringers but the defenders can hire ringers thereby always winning (suggesting they hire good ringers). So makes the point of attacking moot in a lot of cases.
Ahhh, so vet ringers are placing a dampener on the wars? Hmm Except when he attacked PHI, he had TP ringers on his side. So why is he complaining ?
I would like to point out several things. 1) we had 1 team player on our team because he want to shoot stuff and i said sure why not, he was not paid. I added a few ringers from STB so that we wouldn't get Redlined the whole fight. 2) We attacked you guys with a clone pack to get some real world experience in fighting. We got Flaylock and MD to death. which from all the forum threads is in fact real world experience. 3) I wasn't complaining mainly pointing out the state of affairs on the planet. I like the planet and what it stands for though. 4) YOU were not on the INDIE planet you were in another system altogther. Please state your facts right.
Many bigger corps like to smoke the smaller ones because well its easy. Its no different than all the proto pubstomping that goes on in random pub matches.
I believe pro hic is attacking us on the Indie planet tonight. I might just say the hell with it and just hire TP to deal with them so i dont have to. I know pro hic is much better than my corp, So in this case, the rules are in my favor. |
fahrenheitM
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
375
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Posted - 2013.07.24 13:56:00 -
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Pro hic has no battles, and haven't in awhile.... |
CPL Bloodstone
Neanderthal Nation
125
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Posted - 2013.07.24 14:01:00 -
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fahrenheitM wrote:Pro hic has no battles, and haven't in awhile....
Might have got you confused with PRO. if so, my apologies. |
Mechoj Nomreps
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
80
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Posted - 2013.07.24 15:03:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:fahrenheitM wrote:Aqua-Regia wrote:
If a indie corp has no TEST-IC-LES to fight, it will die for being weak and any Vet corp that attack a indie corp for no reason are only trolls.
Everyone is scared of feeling TP's wrath, since they run everything, no? honestly from a lot of the mails I get you would think so. here's a universal disclaimer: 'Team Players only sells lands and gets new corps settled. At this point Team Players has NOTHING to do with indie corps. We are available for hire just as many others are, but we do not influence politics, grease wheels, or otherwise get involved with any of the corps after they have gotten settled' thank you
Hiring yourselves out while you are in alliance which holds districts effectively influences politics I think. You determine of you do a battle or not and most of the times also the outcome of that battle giving EoN. influence over the battles the indie corps are fighting. |
TXSnowman
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
26
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Posted - 2013.07.24 15:47:00 -
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CPL Bloodstone wrote:TXSnowman wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:CPL Bloodstone wrote:Ill try get this conversation back on topic.
We are attacking each other but very lightly. The underlying issue is that if an indie corp attacks another indy corp, we cannot bring ringers but the defenders can hire ringers thereby always winning (suggesting they hire good ringers). So makes the point of attacking moot in a lot of cases.
Ahhh, so vet ringers are placing a dampener on the wars? Hmm Except when he attacked PHI, he had TP ringers on his side. So why is he complaining ? I would like to point out several things. 1) we had 1 team player on our team because he want to shoot stuff and i said sure why not, he was not paid. I added a few ringers from STB so that we wouldn't get Redlined the whole fight. 2) We attacked you guys with a clone pack to get some real world experience in fighting. We got Flaylock and MD to death. which from all the forum threads is in fact real world experience. 3) I wasn't complaining mainly pointing out the state of affairs on the planet. I like the planet and what it stands for though. 4) YOU were not on the INDIE planet you were in another system altogther. Please state your facts right. Many bigger corps like to smoke the smaller ones because well its easy. Its no different than all the proto pubstomping that goes on in random pub matches. I believe pro hic is attacking us on the Indie planet tonight. I might just say the hell with it and just hire TP to deal with them so i dont have to. I know pro hic is much better than my corp, So in this case, the rules are in my favor.
I find it funny you attacked us during the "war". As for the Whining about MD/flaylock, it's just whining. Don't complain about ringers when you use them. |
Soraya Xel
New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men.
164
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Posted - 2013.07.24 15:59:00 -
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I don't think we should be using players from top corps for attacks. I can see hiring them on the defending side if like... you're at risk of losing your territory altogether, a last stand, so to speak. Because at that point, you're either hiring them to defend you, or buying districts from them to get back in the game. |
HighTimesSW
TeamPlayers EoN.
73
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Posted - 2013.07.24 16:32:00 -
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Max Tankitus wrote: cause I hear TP is the only good corp you guys have and they bailed you out all throughout the war.
Quite the opposite, It is often EON who bailed us out. We would not be anywhere without EON.
We would never turn our backs on our Friends.
EON started with 4% of the land in PC as whole, and we have been under constant attack from one or another.
Nobody here wanted this much land, our goal in PC was 2 districts when we started (TP).
In WAR, to the victor goes the spoils.
You can bet your ASS that EON will not break up and fight each other because you make posts on your ALT and demand it.
EON is one. We await the next big thing to come
Until then, we will continue our work on developing talent in this game, much in the same way we developed through good fights with good corps.
Say what you want about Chronos now, but in the beginning the war was ripe with learning experiences. I hope the little guys realize the value in using their people and coming up together. Don't be afraid to lose, it only makes you stronger! |
fahrenheitM
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
376
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Posted - 2013.07.24 16:37:00 -
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HighTimesSW wrote: Don't be afraid to lose,!
And don't be afraid to try and run small corps out of the game for the lulz, too. amirite? (is that the correct l33t speak?) |
HighTimesSW
TeamPlayers EoN.
73
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Posted - 2013.07.24 16:41:00 -
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fahrenheitM wrote:HighTimesSW wrote: Don't be afraid to lose,! And don't be afraid to try and run small corps out of the game for the lulz, too. amirite? (is that the correct l33t speak?)
Not sure what speak of sir, I am but a humble farmer.
but, I guess its ok if they talk mad ****, and Say they **** (forceful butt sex) your team. but toss them a couple districts afterwards, to make amends.
I am surprised all I sent you was GG's after our battles |
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TXSnowman
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
26
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Posted - 2013.07.24 16:54:00 -
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It's fine. Soon they will be playing by themselves. |
fahrenheitM
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
376
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Posted - 2013.07.24 16:58:00 -
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HighTimesSW wrote:Not sure what speak of sir, I am but a humble farmer. but, I guess its ok if they talk mad ****, and Say they **** (forceful butt sex) your team. but toss them a couple districts afterwards, to make amends. I am surprised all I sent you was GG's after our battles
Talked mad ****? lol
A Clan that prides itself in not talking trash, not being boisterous or arrogant. That is respectful to all, including forum trolls (to which you embrace within your ranks) and pompous idiots. You flexed your muscles and run them out of the game. Kudos to you. You even have the pleasure of insulting the clan further by tossing them districts after the fact as if saying "heh, here's a cookie"
But what I don't get is the forked tongue speak about promoting good will in the community. You intentionally try to run a small group of players out of the game for some oddball reason.. Yet pat yourselves on the back and pretending to be "good guys" to the community.
You had issue with a player that had recently joined that corp is the rumor, ok. Fine. But you are what you are. |
HighTimesSW
TeamPlayers EoN.
73
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Posted - 2013.07.24 17:02:00 -
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fahrenheitM wrote:HighTimesSW wrote:Not sure what speak of sir, I am but a humble farmer. but, I guess its ok if they talk mad ****, and Say they **** (forceful butt sex) your team. but toss them a couple districts afterwards, to make amends. I am surprised all I sent you was GG's after our battles Talked mad ****? lol A Clan that prides itself in not talking trash, not being boisterous or arrogant. That is respectful to all, including forum trolls (to which you embrace within your ranks) and pompous idiots. You flexed your muscles and run them out of the game. Kudos to you. You even have the pleasure of insulting the clan further by tossing them districts after the fact as if saying "heh, here's a cookie" But what I don't get is the forked tongue speak about promoting good will in the community. You intentionally try to run a small group of players out of the game for some oddball reason.. Yet pat yourselves on the back and pretending to be "good guys" to the community. You had issue with a player that had recently joined that corp is the rumor, ok. Fine. But you are what you are.
I guess you are right. We are the bad guys here, we took all your land, and insulted you by giving it back.
I am sorry. It wasn't our intention to run you of PC, I am also sorry if that is case. |
Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
363
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Posted - 2013.07.24 17:06:00 -
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TXSnowman wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:CPL Bloodstone wrote:Ill try get this conversation back on topic.
We are attacking each other but very lightly. The underlying issue is that if an indie corp attacks another indy corp, we cannot bring ringers but the defenders can hire ringers thereby always winning (suggesting they hire good ringers). So makes the point of attacking moot in a lot of cases.
Ahhh, so vet ringers are placing a dampener on the wars? Hmm Except when he attacked PHI, he had TP ringers on his side. So why is he complaining ? To be fair, you guys are a great corp. |
fahrenheitM
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
376
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Posted - 2013.07.24 17:08:00 -
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No one is looking for an apology, just an observation of how ridiculous all the "promoting of the community" rhetoric is. |
HighTimesSW
TeamPlayers EoN.
73
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Posted - 2013.07.24 18:07:00 -
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fahrenheitM wrote:No one is looking for an apology, just an observation of how ridiculous all the "promoting of the community" rhetoric is.
1. We attack people for fun and win. We are small group as well started put maybe 16 if had it got some ringers. Now were 31 players, by no means are we a big Corp. We play the game and attack and we are bullies.
2. We don't attack and sit our land and we are now isk farming.
I have to balance the fealings, my own team who want to play, my alliance, and now my enemy.
By no means do we consider you a small corp, so you are fair game.
You have a problem with how Sha Cubs and Kain have been trying to get more people into PC.
Then get off your ass and do something about it. Truth of it is, we are helping and making a difference, while you quit your corp after losing 4 districts QQ.
Nut up and make a difference, or stop QQing while others are making an effort. |
fahrenheitM
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
377
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Posted - 2013.07.24 18:31:00 -
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HighTimesSW wrote:fahrenheitM wrote:No one is looking for an apology, just an observation of how ridiculous all the "promoting of the community" rhetoric is. 1. We attack people for fun and win. We are small group as well started put maybe 16 if had it got some ringers. Now were 31 players, by no means are we a big Corp. We play the game and attack and we are bullies. 2. We don't attack and sit our land and we are now isk farming. I have to balance the fealings, my own team who want to play, my alliance, and now my enemy. By no means do we consider you a small corp, so you are fair game. You have a problem with how Sha Cubs and Kain have been trying to get more people into PC. Then get off your ass and do something about it. Truth of it is, we are helping and making a difference, while you quit your corp after losing 4 districts QQ. We are all angry about the direction the game went, and this not the fault of TP. PC is not dieing because we took your districts, the game has gotten worse and ppl are losing interest. Nut up and make a difference, or stop QQing while others are making an effort.
No one is faulting you for attacking anyone, not a soul cares about anyone elses feelings around here (or that you give a ****), no one is QQing sir.. Apparently, again... you failed to read.
For the record, I didn't quit my corp because of 4 districts. I was already on my way out of the game the last few weeks. Having stepped down as leader of PHI just a month ago to start the transition. No I didn't agree with many of the decisions by the new leadership - namely to join LOI (I thought we should have stayed independent), but more importantly have real life stuff happening (I have 4 kids), but won't bore you anymore with that.. You get the picture.
See how quick you turned into a troll? umadbro? (still not sure i'm doing it right)
31 members is small, yet PHI having 40 members (maybe 25 active) makes it a big corp? don't let dotlan fool you, those are all alts and eve alts. There's a reason you and PHI have roughly the same amount of kills. |
fahrenheitM
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
377
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Posted - 2013.07.24 18:36:00 -
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P.S. Cubs admitted after the fact that you guys intentionally tried to wipe PHI out, and "felt bad" for it. |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers EoN.
955
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Posted - 2013.07.24 19:10:00 -
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fahrenheitM wrote:HighTimesSW wrote:Not sure what speak of sir, I am but a humble farmer. but, I guess its ok if they talk mad ****, and Say they **** (forceful butt sex) your team. but toss them a couple districts afterwards, to make amends. I am surprised all I sent you was GG's after our battles Talked mad ****? lol A Clan that prides itself in not talking trash, not being boisterous or arrogant. That is respectful to all, including forum trolls (to which you embrace within your ranks) and pompous idiots. You flexed your muscles and run them out of the game. Kudos to you. You even have the pleasure of insulting the clan further by tossing them districts after the fact as if saying "heh, here's a cookie" But what I don't get is the forked tongue speak about promoting good will in the community. You intentionally try to run a small group of players out of the game for some oddball reason.. Yet pat yourselves on the back and pretending to be "good guys" to the community. You had issue with a player that had recently joined that corp is the rumor, ok. Fine. But you are what you are.
actually, this is yet another scrub that is clueless to the situation.
I talked to your leader, we had a very good conversation.
the specific land you held I wanted, perhaps cause I like the view... really doesn't matter.
we wanted good fights, you guys gave that to us, which I thank you.
was the reasoning behind the decimation warranted? no, not at all, but it is what it is. I can be a downright @$$h0le if I want to be.
you see the districts you guys earned by standing strong and providing competitive matches as a handout?
I can just take them back. The districts were issued with zero strings attached, compensation if you will for taking all the others that I have turned into an indie planet... for the betterment of the game. keep on the QQ tho.. u didn't want us to take em, guess you shoulda defended your land then...
other than that, this is a video game, we like to play good competition. Pro Hic is great competition.
'nuff said |
fahrenheitM
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
377
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Posted - 2013.07.24 19:14:00 -
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haha... this is rich. You guys are getting mad because why? I haven't QQ'd about losing anything. I just find it very humorous that you are playing the role of the saviour to PC, yet you do these things. Not sure how more blatantly to put it... |
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers EoN.
955
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Posted - 2013.07.24 19:18:00 -
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not trying to be a savior. the game is dying with or without my help. I just want those that actually like the game, like myself, to have the opportunity to experience the vision and potential of what this game can be.
not much else.
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers EoN.
955
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Posted - 2013.07.24 19:18:00 -
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and no im not getting mad.. im just tryin to farm 'likes' |
fahrenheitM
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
377
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Posted - 2013.07.24 19:21:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: actually, this is yet another scrub that is clueless to the situation.
Not really sure what to say to that. I guess I touched a nerve. |
fahrenheitM
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
377
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Posted - 2013.07.24 19:28:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:not trying to be a savior. the game is dying with or without my help. I just want those that actually like the game, like myself, to have the opportunity to experience the vision and potential of what this game can be.
not much else.
Ya you were a lil mad
Don't get me wrong, I loved the game... well more the concept. Why I played EVE for a year+ leading up to it and spent so much time in it... in the end, people got burned out so quickly and having watched my friends (the original core of PHI) widdle away over the past year of beta and release.. it became less fun and more of a job. Hell, my wife and son have played this game up until recently too. I've definitely been invested here.
But after so much time, it's just not getting there. On top of that the game has been made worse by much of the development changes in repeated cycles... |
dustwaffle
Gravity Prone EoN.
210
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Posted - 2013.07.25 07:56:00 -
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Max Tankitus wrote:CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:you certainly post like you think anyone gives a $h!t what you think. post on your main rather than hide behind an alt, and engage in a discussion about something, rather than anonymously displaying your butthurt over you getting beat down and losing a virtual piece of real estate in a made up galaxy on a game with now less than 3000 active players at any time... Back to the "post on your main" response. Classic. I am part of the community which you claim to cherish so much, wether you like it or not. Alt or not, I have as much right to post here as you do. Look past the name in the upper left hand corner for a mintue stop throwing baseless insults for a moment chump. You talk alot about competition. Lets look at Europe for a second. FORGET about them. PC is not setup to promote US vs Europe it wont happen, blame timezones and real life whatever. Next US players. You and your buddies have successfully amassed the top 5% tile of skilled and dedicated players into one alliance. It took you a year, congratulations. You did it, bravo. You beat all the competition so bad it only took you a few days to conquer the next biggest alliance. But you have no problem with this because it means you are "winning". But you are ruined the community at the same time. You might not have had the foresight to see this happen, and nobody blames you. Because all you care about is winning and that is common in the FPS world right? CCP left PC in the hands of the players. Would anyone leave anything in the hands of an online FPS player? I wouldnt let one of you fucks pull weeds from my lawn let alone run anything else. You sit in the corner throwing stones at the rest of the community saying back off this is our chunk of made up internet space, get good scrubs. Here, have a small piece of cake because we are so generous while the rest of us 5%'ers sit in the corner admiring eachothers KDR and piles of isk. Go eff yourself and the rest of your scardy cat alliance scum. You may have pulled the blinders over the eyes of the other dolts who are left on these forums but you havent fooled me Chicagocubs. Dictator you are, good player you are, community spokesperson you are not. Not for me and many others like me at least. umadbro?
When you grow up, you'll realize, as an adult, that throwing insults around and cussing all over the forums doesn't mean people will let you join the Cool Kids Club.
Run along outside and play while you have your summer holidays, the grown ups are talking here. |
Yokal Bob
BetaMax. CRONOS.
43
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Posted - 2013.07.25 08:49:00 -
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Iv been keeping an eye on the indie battles recently, nice to see General Tso's alliance start to make a push for PC :) 2 wins and 1 loss in a few days, keep it up :)
Note: Team Players are not the only good corp in EoN, we have had some great fights :) I personally learn a lot from these guys everytime we fight. |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
405
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Posted - 2013.07.25 19:12:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:actually, this is yet another scrub that is clueless to the situation. For the record, FahrenheitM is a good guy and a noble leader. I was both baffled and disappointed when he stepped down as leader of PHI a month or so back. Now I gather he's left the corp. I can only assume he's done with Dust.
If you're out there Fahren, thanks for everything. The time, effort and dollars you invested into PHI. The leadership and council you extended to recruits like me. Your contributions made Dust better; a fact that neither friend nor foe can deny.
It was an honor serving under your direction. Damn you for leaving us. o7
- Shotty GoBang |
Preda The Collector
Dust Reports
26
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Posted - 2013.08.01 10:40:00 -
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Late to the party, my bad :P
Soraya Xel wrote:Preda, I think we can get you data you need for the district report for DUST Reports for Top Men.
The big question I have, is how much fun handling the new report has to be with so many being bought and sold as opposed to fought for. You guys have a monumental task over there. ;)
I'll contact you in-game. i unfortunately missed all the new indies coming to PC as i was on holiday but updating the spreadsheets last night, i think there was only a handful of districts that hadn't changed hands!
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:Yea but things are settling down. Lots of moving around getting new guys situated and back end moves from the war.
Liekly why an updated report hasn't come out yet as waiting a few more days for things to settle would simplify the reports
A report hasn't come out as both me and broker were away, they're should be some new ones Soon tho
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Soraya Xel
New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men.
210
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Posted - 2013.08.01 13:40:00 -
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Preda, I swear you guys must take a break every time we're really active in PC. ;) |
Kinky Burrito
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
114
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Posted - 2013.08.01 19:52:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:not trying to be a savior. the game is dying with or without my help. I just want those that actually like the game, like myself, to have the opportunity to experience the vision and potential of what this game can be.
not much else.
Just to play devil's advocate for a minute here, surely you can see why some people think that you guys are having the opposite effect? Fight club is fine and all, but any corp with any ambition towards PC knows that they are only allowed to go so far before EON labels them hostile and comes down on them with endless attacks from 15 corps with a huge collection of vet players, immediately sucking the wind out of their sails. It's kinda like the abominable snowman in the old looney toons. You are so excited for a fight that you immediately squeeze your opponent to death before you even get a chance to enjoy yourselves. Meanwhile, PC is stagnant because there is no sandbox, just a collusion between many vet players to run their own personal social engineering experiments. Just my 2 cents. |
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