I am sure a lot of people were drawn to Dust based on the many trailers containing several HAVs and dropships as they stormed the battlefield. They are shown fighting each other, infantry, and even the environment. I too was amazed at this and skilled into vehicles during chromosome.

Flash forward to Uprising. Vehicles have no way to increase their ability to survive and are continually destroyed by proto AV. They cost unreasonable amounts of ISK and have the most bugs of anything in the game. Their operators are some of the most dedicated players on the battlefield as one mistake costs them over an hour of grinding ISK. Only the occasional enjoyment is keeping operators around.

Now to the armor repair fix and beyond. Eventually there will be ZERO 'real' (non militia and skilled) vehicles on the battlefield. It will just be AR vs AR. Those trailers will be so far fetched that even a dev might admit it, not that they would even reply to a vehicle related post. With the continued extermination process of vehicles, operators are continually decreasing in numbers. Those who stay will be forced to skill into other areas as whatever SP they have spent on vehicles has been made obsolete.

Sound unreasonable?

By September, if nothing beneficial to vehicles happens, it will be true.

CCP STEP UP
Admit that something is wrong.
Play your game through the role of a vehicle specialist against real players.

FIRE
Minor Wang
CCP Blam
Whoever is running the vehicle operations and AV balance
They have done nothing but render us more and more obsolete, until we are no longer viable.

SHOW SOME REPECT
Your numbers don't add up (economically for vehicles, damage, or repping/boost)
We have proven this over and over AND OVER AND OVER

YET YOU HAVE YET TO RESPOND
Unless AV is nerfed into the ground across the board in 1.4 I will be specing into other roles or asking for a respec. If this seems like any other fps when I do that, I will be leaving to play a much more refined FPS.

GET REAL
You still have time to fix this. Sit down and crunch the numbers for AV vs any tank. You will be just as frustrated as us if you do you will be just as speechless as us at times.

FIX IT
Re-balance vehicles and AV. Tanks should act like 50 ton blocks of steel on treads, dropships should fit their role and not die in two shots, LAVs shouldn't strike fear into every soldier.

NOTE
Maybe we should make a list of all the vehicle drivers who are on the way out so CCP could see? I mean they are the infantry's pet so I guess then no one will be between their AR vs AR battles any longer.

lol did this guy said "show some respect"? Ok mr. tough guy. I don't know what "respect" you think needs to be shown.

I swear some of you guys were probably the male cheerleaders in school

I agree with all your points (besides firing people, i belive in second chances and i think, that 1.4 will be blam!` second chance)

I don't know how to make CCP listen. Nearly every dropship pilot specced out of flying in the last opportunity and we still have only a vague promise of a rebalance.

Keep asking, but skill an infantry fit so you have something to do for the next year or two while we wait.

They have both shown continually to be out of touch with the community. If they were to drive one of my madrugars and be blown up by two proto swarm shots, things may change. Then again we might get the response that they are looking into it. real businesses don't pull that crap. They replace ineffective employees with ones who can do the job effectively. That's just how the real world operates.

As far as i know blam! Cant code, that might be a the problem also :
Have you tought that blam is a human not a robot, he migjt have some RL personal problems to deal with and suchbthibg

And again i belive i second chances
He has never been my favourite DEV but i think, that 1.4 be his ssecond chance, but if aftrt that it fails, well i might not sullortbhim anymore

I know they arent in touch with the community, but the only devs in touch with are foxfour and sometimes frame (mintchip too but as far as i know she doesnt develop anything)

But too exploitable

Another solution would be to increase tanking a ton like 3-4x health but drastically reduce the ability to self heal. Basically what can't happen is tanks requiring 10-20 proto AV shots and then being able to drive off and heal in the redline for a minute or two.

Or giv AV e-war options to disable guns and movement, then tanks could be way beefier. But if you just buff tanks you will see a domino effect of more, stronger tanks and frustrated AV leaving to go shoot squishy men. Then tanks will just smash everything.

As a former dropship pilot and someone who now owns an Ishukone, I can safely say I have no faith in CCPs ability to properly balance Vehicles and AV.

Any improvement to vehicles will result in pubstomping complaints.

Pub matches come first.

Vehicles are too OP in this game.

Vehicles are too OP in this game.

Any game you can joyride and go 16-0 is unacceptable. Regardless how few times it may be who it's against this tactic should NEVER produce those kind of results. NEVER in any shooter. AV or not. In BF vehicles were OP as hell but even than guys wouldn't just drive around in jeeps going 20-0 10-0 9-0 just running people over. I have never seen this tactic so damn effective. Vehicles are TOO OP, NOT UP , OP OVER POWERED.

I agree with all your points (besides firing people, i belive in second chances and i think, that 1.4 will be blam!` second chance)
I fly dropships only because i love it
But they suck, av can take us way too fast and we cant even make wp
The only reason ppl drive tanks or fly dropships right now is because they like it and have isk, because killing them is way too easy

There was one post some time ago, that had the perfeft fix, for any imbalance that buffing vehicles could cause

It was having indoors in some maps
He said, that tanks could as powerful as they were in closed beta because they wouldnt be able to stomp everyone becaue tjey couldnt get indoors
He said, that dropships could be useful, by transporting people over the open areas , where tanks could rule

He claimed, that it would fix this whole game by making every weapon OP but making the map itself restrict its use ( like lasers melting ppl in mid-long range but by playing in a cqc map it wouldnt be OP and such things) and that it could bring more divrrsity to PC because then knowing the map layout would influence the choice of how to play certain mqtch or what tactics to use ( not like now, when 1 playstyle for your whole corp is enough to rule pc)

BUT LIKE EVERY GOOD SUGGESTION THREAD IN HERE IT WAS BURIED BY THE STUPID QQing