Because EVE players ate their Vegetables when they were kids

...do all EVE players, all 500.000 of them get a respec?

• Do they petition for it?
• Riot on forums maybe?

And they are even paying monthly sub for their game to accumulate skills.

And you have free to play game to get your SP however you want.

The breakdown:
DUST 514 - Free to play game - Changes 1 thing, everyone goes up in arms about it and wants to reset their character
EVE ONline - sub $15 month game - Changes 10 things in expansion - nobody cares and moves on playing as they used to

You should have seen the rage induced over the Battleship nerf. It makes the Dust forums look civil.

Good Point but are EVE forums ususally like this?

I remember the space trucks getting a larger threadnaught than the battleship rebalancing did.

Make this game all passive and you can use this point, until then its completely different.

...do all EVE players, all 500.000 of them get a respec?

• Do they petition for it?
• Riot on forums maybe?

And they are even paying monthly sub for their game to accumulate skills.

And you have free to play game to get your SP however you want.

The breakdown:
DUST 514 - Free to play game - Changes 1 thing, everyone goes up in arms about it and wants to reset their character
EVE ONline - sub $15 month game - Changes 10 things in expansion - nobody cares and moves on playing as they used to

I am not at all a supporter of respecs, but I hate it when people try to play the F2P card.

This game is not F2P! There is a $20 a month subscription fee ($5 mor than EVE). if you are not paying the sub, you are doing it wrong, and are probably having a a terrible time of this game.

In EVE they have riots.

Actual riots.

lol. Grow up

Make this game all passive and you can use this point, until then its completely different.

Small mind How did you think that this was going to help your argument in anyway.

Make this game all passive and you can use this point, until then its completely different.

^On the forums, in-game, and via cyber warfare. There's a reason why CCP hasn't disclosed the server's location...

^On the forums, in-game, and via cyber warfare. There's a reason why CCP hasn't disclosed the server's location...

if dust was full passive then there would be no incentive to play for the top tier players

they would just afk until they are needed

How? They changed their game. People are mad because it takes their win button or makes it harder for them to destroy a new player. It is exactly the same thing except fps players have an entitlement mentality and do not understand or try to understand what the game is about, how it works or what the goal of CCP is. The only thing the kids see is somebody changed something and I should be able to do anything I want anytime I want. This game is easy to understan and easy to play yet people act like it is so hard. If you think the game is hard now just wait till we see what it is like as we get more and more shiny things to play with. The game now is child's play, I am awful at fps and I don't have half the problems these crybabies have. HTFU. Welcome to New Eden and any other cliche that makes you mad because it is true.

if dust was full passive then there would be no incentive to play for the top tier players

they would just afk until they are needed

(hint) under a iceland bar somewhere

No. no one asked for a respec in Eve when over 20 ships got revamped in one go.

You mean the fact that Dust is F2P? Because that's not an argument. So, I think my point is pretty clear. Grow Up. You obviously don't know how F2P works.

I think the rest of us understand it pretty well though, just not you I guess.

How? They changed their game. People are mad because it takes their win button or makes it harder for them to destroy a new player. It is exactly the same thing except fps players have an entitlement mentality and do not understand or try to understand what the game is about, how it works or what the goal of CCP is. The only thing the kids see is somebody changed something and I should be able to do anything I want anytime I want. This game is easy to understan and easy to play yet people act like it is so hard. If you think the game is hard now just wait till we see what it is like as we get more and more shiny things to play with. The game now is child's play, I am awful at fps and I don't have half the problems these crybabies have. HTFU. Welcome to New Eden and any other cliche that makes you mad because it is true.

No your just being childish and pointing a finger at me and calling me a child, and completely ingnoring the point I've made, which is a very valid point:

If you're not paying the sub more than likely (by a huge margin) you are not enjoining this game.

Here let me demonstrate if we can get 20 people to come to this thread in the next hour and say (honestly) that they do not buy boosters, or at no point have, and that they feel that they are enjoying this game as much as anyone who uses boosters, then I'll concede my point.

No your just being childish and pointing a finger at me and calling me a child, and completely ingnoring the point I've made, which is a very valid point:

If you're not paying the sub more than likely (by a huge margin) you are not enjoining this game.

Here let me demonstrate if we can get 20 people to come to this thread in the next hour and say (honestly) that they do not by boosters, or at no point have, and that they feel that they are enjoying this game as much as anyone who uses boosters, then I'll concede my point.

Fully passive SP would actually solve the AFK scourge.

Why would they AFK? There would be no point. Passive SP would be a nice change to Dust.

I am not at all a supporter of respecs, but I hate it when people try to play the F2P card.

This game is not F2P! There is a $20 a month subscription fee ($5 mor than EVE). if you are not paying the sub, you are doing it wrong, and are probably having a a terrible time of this game.

Well, I'm sorry, but you are being a child.

The point of any business is to make money.

Also, even in passive SP alone, players can earn something like 4.2 mil SP since the game went open beta, close to twice that if they play to their cap, so, 8 or 9 mil Sp seems pretty doable without boosters. I'm sure they're doing fine.

Point is, the game is F2P. You tried to be all pithy by suggesting that someone "pulled the F2P card" Which was childish of you because that's what Dust is - F2P.

Fully passive SP + 1 SP / WP no cap.

You have an incentive to play if you want... but you're not stressed out trying to make weekly caps in order to stay ahead of the nerf wave.

You keep pointing that finger man it's just making you look stupid man. Now go troll somebody else.

That 99% is probably a statistic that can be said about any game at some point in time. People who skilled into a suit because it was op should get kicked in the butt. Passive SP would fix this game. The problem is burn out, for some reason people think that the only way yo play the game is to run proto gear and grind SP. There is where you went wrong. You should be playing for fun and not for SP. SP doesn't really mean much after a month or two. A couple of months of gaming should allow you to have a good fit. Quit grinding and start playing and the game is a lot more fun. This isn't a second job unless you make it one. Any game that a person plays for three hours a day five days a week is going to get old. Take a break, play another game and it will be OK if someone has more SP than you.

No, you're just being childish and pointing a finger at me and calling me a child, and completely ingnoring the point I've made, which is a very valid point:

If you're not paying the sub more than likely (by a huge margin) you are not enjoining this game.

Here let me demonstrate if we can get 20 people to come to this thread in the next hour and say (honestly) that they do not buy boosters, or at no point have, and that they feel that they are enjoying this game as much as anyone who uses boosters, then I'll concede my point.