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Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention Caldari State
428
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Posted - 2013.07.19 04:26:00 -
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...do all EVE players, all 500.000 of them get a respec? Do they petition for it? Riot on forums maybe?
And they are even paying monthly sub for their game to accumulate skills.
And you have free to play game to get your SP however you want.
The breakdown: DUST 514 - Free to play game - Changes 1 thing, everyone goes up in arms about it and wants to reset their character EVE ONline - sub $15 month game - Changes 10 things in expansion - nobody cares and moves on playing as they used to |
Killar-12
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
223
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Posted - 2013.07.19 04:27:00 -
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Because EVE players ate their Vegetables when they were kids |
Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention Caldari State
428
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Posted - 2013.07.19 04:28:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Because EVE players ate their Vegetables when they were kids So bacon is to blame. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
2838
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Posted - 2013.07.19 04:29:00 -
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You should have seen the rage induced over the Battleship nerf. It makes the Dust forums look civil. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.07.19 04:30:00 -
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Sylvana Nightwind wrote:...do all EVE players, all 500.000 of them get a respec?
- Do they petition for it?
- Riot on forums maybe?
And they are even paying monthly sub for their game to accumulate skills. And you have free to play game to get your SP however you want. The breakdown: DUST 514 - Free to play game - Changes 1 thing, everyone goes up in arms about it and wants to reset their character EVE ONline - sub $15 month game - Changes 10 things in expansion - nobody cares and moves on playing as they used to
Didn't Eve like change 45 (of 600 possible or 200 normal) ships and 2 weapons systems changed drastically in one go? I mean ships that people would have had max theoretical SP invested into by now that one more additional SP would not improve that ship any further. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.19 04:35:00 -
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Make this game all passive and you can use this point, until then its completely different. |
Killar-12
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
224
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Posted - 2013.07.19 04:42:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:You should have seen the rage induced over the Battleship nerf. It makes the Dust forums look civil. Good Point but are EVE forums ususally like this? |
Dale Templar
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
275
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Posted - 2013.07.19 05:14:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Cosgar wrote:You should have seen the rage induced over the Battleship nerf. It makes the Dust forums look civil. Good Point but are EVE forums ususally like this?
In EVE they have riots.
Actual riots. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6243
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Posted - 2013.07.19 05:15:00 -
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I remember the space trucks getting a larger threadnaught than the battleship rebalancing did. |
Casius Hakoke
Fenrir's Wolves RUST415
162
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Posted - 2013.07.19 05:23:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I remember the space trucks getting a larger threadnaught than the battleship rebalancing did.
I remember when they announced the skill changes for the orca. People where not happy about that. Can't say I was either as I bought my orca alt before the changes, but I got over it. |
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1213
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Posted - 2013.07.19 05:23:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Make this game all passive and you can use this point, until then its completely different. Why is that? |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
238
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Posted - 2013.07.19 05:24:00 -
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Sylvana Nightwind wrote:...do all EVE players, all 500.000 of them get a respec?
- Do they petition for it?
- Riot on forums maybe?
And they are even paying monthly sub for their game to accumulate skills. And you have free to play game to get your SP however you want. The breakdown: DUST 514 - Free to play game - Changes 1 thing, everyone goes up in arms about it and wants to reset their character EVE ONline - sub $15 month game - Changes 10 things in expansion - nobody cares and moves on playing as they used to
I am not at all a supporter of respecs, but I hate it when people try to play the F2P card.
This game is not F2P! There is a $20 a month subscription fee ($5 mor than EVE). if you are not paying the sub, you are doing it wrong, and are probably having a a terrible time of this game. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1213
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Posted - 2013.07.19 05:25:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Sylvana Nightwind wrote:...do all EVE players, all 500.000 of them get a respec?
- Do they petition for it?
- Riot on forums maybe?
And they are even paying monthly sub for their game to accumulate skills. And you have free to play game to get your SP however you want. The breakdown: DUST 514 - Free to play game - Changes 1 thing, everyone goes up in arms about it and wants to reset their character EVE ONline - sub $15 month game - Changes 10 things in expansion - nobody cares and moves on playing as they used to I am not at all a supporter of respecs, but I hate it when people try to play the F2P card. This game is not F2P! There is a $20 a month subscription fee ($5 mor than EVE). if you are not paying the sub, you are doing it wrong, and are probably having a a terrible time of this game.
Wow, so you can't play if you don't spend money.
lol. Grow up. |
Void Echo
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
754
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Posted - 2013.07.19 05:26:00 -
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the "Burn Jita" campaign.... nuff said |
Cosgar
ParagonX
2841
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Posted - 2013.07.19 05:26:00 -
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Dale Templar wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Cosgar wrote:You should have seen the rage induced over the Battleship nerf. It makes the Dust forums look civil. Good Point but are EVE forums ususally like this? In EVE they have riots. Actual riots. ^On the forums, in-game, and via cyber warfare. There's a reason why CCP hasn't disclosed the server's location... |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
240
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Posted - 2013.07.19 05:30:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote: lol. Grow up
Small mind How did you think that this was going to help your argument in anyway. |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
343
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Posted - 2013.07.19 05:31:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Make this game all passive and you can use this point, until then its completely different.
if dust was full passive then there would be no incentive to play for the top tier players
they would just afk until they are needed |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1215
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Posted - 2013.07.19 05:32:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Buster Friently wrote: lol. Grow up Small mind How did you think that this was going to help your argument in anyway.
You mean the fact that Dust is F2P? Because that's not an argument. So, I think my point is pretty clear. Grow Up. You obviously don't know how F2P works.
I think the rest of us understand it pretty well though, just not you I guess. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
662
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Posted - 2013.07.19 05:32:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Make this game all passive and you can use this point, until then its completely different.
How? They changed their game. People are mad because it takes their win button or makes it harder for them to destroy a new player. It is exactly the same thing except fps players have an entitlement mentality and do not understand or try to understand what the game is about, how it works or what the goal of CCP is. The only thing the kids see is somebody changed something and I should be able to do anything I want anytime I want. This game is easy to understan and easy to play yet people act like it is so hard. If you think the game is hard now just wait till we see what it is like as we get more and more shiny things to play with. The game now is child's play, I am awful at fps and I don't have half the problems these crybabies have. HTFU. Welcome to New Eden and any other cliche that makes you mad because it is true. |
Killar-12
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
228
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Posted - 2013.07.19 05:33:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Dale Templar wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Cosgar wrote:You should have seen the rage induced over the Battleship nerf. It makes the Dust forums look civil. Good Point but are EVE forums ususally like this? In EVE they have riots. Actual riots. ^On the forums, in-game, and via cyber warfare. There's a reason why CCP hasn't disclosed the server's location... Oh... wow! |
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3419
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Posted - 2013.07.19 05:33:00 -
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No. no one asked for a respec in Eve when over 20 ships got revamped in one go. |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
343
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Posted - 2013.07.19 05:33:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Dale Templar wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Cosgar wrote:You should have seen the rage induced over the Battleship nerf. It makes the Dust forums look civil. Good Point but are EVE forums ususally like this? In EVE they have riots. Actual riots. ^On the forums, in-game, and via cyber warfare. There's a reason why CCP hasn't disclosed the server's location...
(hint) under a iceland bar somewhere |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1215
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Posted - 2013.07.19 05:34:00 -
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Syther Shadows wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Make this game all passive and you can use this point, until then its completely different. if dust was full passive then there would be no incentive to play for the top tier players they would just afk until they are needed
Fully passive SP would actually solve the AFK scourge.
Why would they AFK? There would be no point. Passive SP would be a nice change to Dust. |
Dale Templar
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
277
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Posted - 2013.07.19 05:35:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Make this game all passive and you can use this point, until then its completely different. How? They changed their game. People are mad because it takes their win button or makes it harder for them to destroy a new player. It is exactly the same thing except fps players have an entitlement mentality and do not understand or try to understand what the game is about, how it works or what the goal of CCP is. The only thing the kids see is somebody changed something and I should be able to do anything I want anytime I want. This game is easy to understan and easy to play yet people act like it is so hard. If you think the game is hard now just wait till we see what it is like as we get more and more shiny things to play with. The game now is child's play, I am awful at fps and I don't have half the problems these crybabies have. HTFU. Welcome to New Eden and any other cliche that makes you mad because it is true.
It's not really hard, 2 months ago I was being proto stomped fresh out the Academy left right and centre, and now I'm the one doing the protostomping. Is 2 months of play time really that long for something with RPG-type skill trees? |
Cosgar
ParagonX
2845
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Posted - 2013.07.19 05:35:00 -
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Syther Shadows wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Make this game all passive and you can use this point, until then its completely different. if dust was full passive then there would be no incentive to play for the top tier players they would just afk until they are needed Why AFK? You wouldn't have to log in. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1215
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Posted - 2013.07.19 05:36:00 -
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Syther Shadows wrote:Cosgar wrote:Dale Templar wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Cosgar wrote:You should have seen the rage induced over the Battleship nerf. It makes the Dust forums look civil. Good Point but are EVE forums ususally like this? In EVE they have riots. Actual riots. ^On the forums, in-game, and via cyber warfare. There's a reason why CCP hasn't disclosed the server's location... (hint) under a iceland bar somewhere
The UK actually. |
Killar-12
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
228
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Posted - 2013.07.19 05:36:00 -
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You could go all passive it's called AFKing its a low-down tactic but still it works. |
Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention Caldari State
433
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Posted - 2013.07.19 05:39:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:No. no one asked for a respec in Eve when over 20 ships got revamped in one go. That's funny see. We rebalance one logi and everyone loses their minds.
http://i.imgur.com/q3CkfWX.png |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
240
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Posted - 2013.07.19 05:45:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Buster Friently wrote: lol. Grow up Small mind How did you think that this was going to help your argument in anyway. You mean the fact that Dust is F2P? Because that's not an argument. So, I think my point is pretty clear. Grow Up. You obviously don't know how F2P works. I think the rest of us understand it pretty well though, just not you I guess.
No your just being childish and pointing a finger at me and calling me a child, and completely ingnoring the point I've made, which is a very valid point:
If you're not paying the sub more than likely (by a huge margin) you are not enjoining this game.
Here let me demonstrate if we can get 20 people to come to this thread in the next hour and say (honestly) that they do not buy boosters, or at no point have, and that they feel that they are enjoying this game as much as anyone who uses boosters, then I'll concede my point. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1038
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Posted - 2013.07.19 05:45:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Make this game all passive and you can use this point, until then its completely different. How? They changed their game. People are mad because it takes their win button or makes it harder for them to destroy a new player. It is exactly the same thing except fps players have an entitlement mentality and do not understand or try to understand what the game is about, how it works or what the goal of CCP is. The only thing the kids see is somebody changed something and I should be able to do anything I want anytime I want. This game is easy to understan and easy to play yet people act like it is so hard. If you think the game is hard now just wait till we see what it is like as we get more and more shiny things to play with. The game now is child's play, I am awful at fps and I don't have half the problems these crybabies have. HTFU. Welcome to New Eden and any other cliche that makes you mad because it is true.
Time = SP in dust. Wasted SP = Wasted time.
I don't really care for a game that makes me feel like im wasting my time. I know it is what of the 'ragers' feel as well.
It's not 'wasting my infinite pool of SP' its "waste the last three weeks of grinding weekly caps on this game".
If 'adapting' to these changes was a simple matter of saying... whelp I need Cal Assault now... so set Cal Assault Operation in my skill queue and wait 5 weeks. I could deal with that... most of us probably could.
But no... a lot of assault logis are now going to have to play in a suit that's not what they got 2 months ago, and with fittings quite a bit less than they had before for 2 months.
Even then... the moment you finally grind those 2 ******* months.. the **** you just finally grinded for gets nerfed to ****.
Its not fun. Adapting essentially requires quitting the game. Oh look... 99% of the people who have tried this game have done just that... |
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