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![Rogatien Merc Rogatien Merc](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
441
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Posted - 2013.07.18 22:25:00 -
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O wait. Actually, it wasn't.
Kudos for well thought out adjustments.
Cal Logi 4 life. Until I can spec Cal Heavy that is ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) |
![King Kobrah King Kobrah](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
806
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Posted - 2013.07.18 22:30:00 -
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Well, you're losing a 25% boost on shield extenders...cal logi might just be reasonably balanced now. |
![Scheneighnay McBob Scheneighnay McBob](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Band Dust Mercenaries Immortals of War
2425
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Posted - 2013.07.18 22:32:00 -
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Shield regulators are probably underestimated. Guess we need to wait and see the horror of instant shield regen. |
![Rogatien Merc Rogatien Merc](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
442
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Posted - 2013.07.18 22:33:00 -
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It's literally a loss of 66hp for those of us who run a 4x extender setup. Sure it sucks losing anything, but it's honestly not that big a deal. I'm happy for my assault bros who got a bit of a buff; should have been more than 2% but w/e. |
![Vyzion Eyri Vyzion Eyri](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
1017
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Posted - 2013.07.18 22:34:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Shield regulators are probably underestimated. Guess we need to wait and see the horror of instant shield regen.
This would make such an effective logibro, being able to take all that explosive damage and regenerate in seconds... I actually wish that I specced into CalLogi now more than before the changes. |
![Rogatien Merc Rogatien Merc](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
442
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Posted - 2013.07.18 22:36:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Shield regulators are probably underestimated. Guess we need to wait and see the horror of instant shield regen. Nah, the way the math works and the pragmatic approach requiring at least some armor or speed mods, I think the shield regulator bonus won't quite get us back to the pre-nerf recharge delays. IMO cal logi doesn't have the speed or stamina to be a tankier version of a insta-recharge shield tanked scout. an advantage of that scout is its ability to be gone before the grenade explodes... |
![Malkai Inos Malkai Inos](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
740
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Posted - 2013.07.18 22:37:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Shield regulators are probably underestimated. Guess we need to wait and see the horror of instant shield regen. I use a pair of ADV ones on my ADV suit and it's pretty helpfull. Combined with rechargers this change might suit my playstyle even more, considering that an actual logi should not have to sustain constant damage in the first place.
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![ADAM-OF-EVE ADAM-OF-EVE](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn
117
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Posted - 2013.07.18 22:45:00 -
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isnt the new stat just temp untill they work out how best to implement equipment stats instead. |
![Vin Mora Vin Mora](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_caldari_128.jpg)
Vin Mora
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
58
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Posted - 2013.07.18 22:59:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Shield regulators are probably underestimated. Guess we need to wait and see the horror of instant shield regen. I use a pair of ADV ones on my ADV suit and it's pretty helpfull. Combined with rechargers this change might suit my playstyle even more, considering that an actual logi should not have to sustain constant damage in the first place. If you're CalLogi, then you are the smartest of your brothers.
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![Roofer Madness Roofer Madness](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Roofer Madness
Unkn0wn Killers
55
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:02:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:isnt the new stat just temp untill they work out how best to implement equipment stats instead.
I believe that is what it said in the dev blog. Which means I am not speccing into anything until I see the REAL changes as these changes are really just placeholders. |
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![Rogatien Merc Rogatien Merc](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
449
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:02:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:isnt the new stat just temp untill they work out how best to implement equipment stats instead. Oh God. I'm going to end up with a ******* nanohive-effectiveness buff, aren't i? That'll suck. |
![Malkai Inos Malkai Inos](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
741
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:08:00 -
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Vin Mora wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Shield regulators are probably underestimated. Guess we need to wait and see the horror of instant shield regen. I use a pair of ADV ones on my ADV suit and it's pretty helpfull. Combined with rechargers this change might suit my playstyle even more, considering that an actual logi should not have to sustain constant damage in the first place. If you're CalLogi, then you are the smartest of your brothers. Yes I am (a cal logi, the smart thing... meh). I'll just wait and see how the changes affect me and what i can make out of them. Funny thing is, i'm also a Tac user and laughted equally hard about the QQ then while getting a stealth range buff since many players switched back to shorter range weapons after the changes.
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![DJINN leukoplast DJINN leukoplast](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
772
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:16:00 -
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Likely about 170-250 less shields, 20 less CPU (which is likely about 40 after applying skill point bonuses, and around 60-70 if you were already using a CPU enhancer)... yeah, they sure didn't take that too far ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) |
![Rogatien Merc Rogatien Merc](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
458
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:19:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Likely about 170-250 less shields, 20 less CPU (which is likely about 40 after applying skill point bonuses, and around 60-70 if you were already using a CPU enhancer)... yeah, they sure didn't take that too far ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) It's actually 66-82.5 less shields depending on 4 or 5x extender fit.
It's 26 less CPU after taking fitting skill bonuses into account (30% from core and electronics combined)
... dem mathz. |
![Sloth9230 Sloth9230](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Sloth9230
Deepspace Digital
2485
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:20:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Likely about 170-250 less shields, 20 less CPU (which is likely about 40 after applying skill point bonuses, and around 60-70 if you were already using a CPU enhancer)... yeah, they sure didn't take that too far ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) You went from the OP 790.5 EHP to 700.5 EHP, with max sectenders, the Caldari assault can get 702.9 EHP without the bonus. Please tell us more about your gimped suit ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png)
What's that, you have to make sacrifices now? Cool story bro ![P](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_p.png) |
![Green Living Green Living](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Green Living
0uter.Heaven EoN.
639
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:20:00 -
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I look forward to melting Cal Logi's even faster now with my Laser Rifle. |
![da GAND da GAND](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
da GAND
187. League of Infamy
82
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:46:00 -
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I was about to STFU!! but it's all good thnx for tricking me lol |
![Son-Of A-Gun Son-Of A-Gun](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
235
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Posted - 2013.07.19 00:36:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Likely about 170-250 less shields, 20 less CPU (which is likely about 40 after applying skill point bonuses, and around 60-70 if you were already using a CPU enhancer)... yeah, they sure didn't take that too far ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) It's actually 66-82.5 less shields depending on 4 or 5x extender fit. It's 26 less CPU after taking fitting skill bonuses into account (30% from core and electronics combined) ... dem mathz.
If I am not mistaken engineering stacks on top of core. So actually 31.25%.
...dem mathz. ![Blink](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png)
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![Rogatien Merc Rogatien Merc](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
470
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Posted - 2013.07.19 00:40:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Likely about 170-250 less shields, 20 less CPU (which is likely about 40 after applying skill point bonuses, and around 60-70 if you were already using a CPU enhancer)... yeah, they sure didn't take that too far ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) It's actually 66-82.5 less shields depending on 4 or 5x extender fit. It's 26 less CPU after taking fitting skill bonuses into account (30% from core and electronics combined) ... dem mathz. If I am not mistaken engineering stacks on top of core. So actually 31.25%. ...dem mathz. ![Blink](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png) So... 26.25 less CPU rounded down to ... 26 ... ? |
![Pikachu Power Pikachu Power](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_minmatar_128.jpg)
Pikachu Power
XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S
38
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Posted - 2013.07.19 00:41:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Shield regulators are probably underestimated. Guess we need to wait and see the horror of instant shield regen.
it's not quite as vicious as it used to be but insta-recharge shields work great for hit and run tactics- especially with massdrivers, as i can empty the boundless in a few seconds. |
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