kinda got pissed because i love being a logi more then anything but at the time the assault was the better choice

The Laser Rifle bonus is massive, that extra firing time is while the beam is heated up and in full death ray mode. Once the ADS and the hefty penalty to tracking speed are addressed AmAs LRs should be deadly.

If you're not using LRs then yeah, ain't too much in it apart from the higher than standard fitting for Basics/Assaults.

Are they the same speed? Usually Logi is slower, sure you're not overlooking that?

Amarr Assault is still fine. You use it for the heat reduction bonus. Amarr Logi is now how's supposed to be. One more slot was needed because logi suits always have more slots than assault suit. If you aren't using a weapon that has heat build up then there's no reason to use Amarr Assault.

Being able to fire 3 more shots from the scrambler rifle doesn't make it worth a hefty loss in CPU, equipment, and modules.

But it's great for the Laser Rifle.

Which I admitted in the first post, but why should the bonus only be worth it if you are using one specific weapon?

I think thats the direction CCP wants to go with racials. Gallente get PG/CPU reduction on hybrid weaponry (gallente weapons are hybrid), amarr get bonuses to lazor weaponry (amarr are laser based weapons). Minmatar dont have their weapons yet and caldari got the cast off shield extender buff that everyone hated. Both seem more like placeholders for when they release racial variants.

Amarr logi got a buff? Good, it needed it, worst suit ever.

Amarr assault all the way.

I use the imperial scrambler rifle, heat reduction lets me get off 4 or 5 more shots if i'm spamming close range, thats 80x5=400dmg more potentially. Not counting my proficiency or dmg mod. Helps with charge shots too.

Yeah, as an Amarr Logi, Amarr Assaults are the Freaks who who tank as well as Damage the crap out of your suit

The changes to the Amarr Logi are great, but as someone who chose the Amarr Assault over the Amarr Logi I am a bit concerned. Let's look at the stats.

Standard: Logi / Assault
Light Weapons: 1/1
Sidearms: 1/1
Highs: 2/2
Lows: 2/1
Equipment: 2/1
PG: 36/35
CPU: 195/175
Armor: 180/180
Shield: 120/180
Conclusion: Standard logi gives up 60 shield in exchange for 1 extra low, 1 extra equipment, 1 extra PG, and 20 extra CPU.

Advanced: Logi / Assault
Light Weapons: 1/1
Sidearms: 1/1
Highs: 3/2
Lows: 3/2
Equipment: 3/1
PG: 49/49
CPU: 273/245
Armor: 180/180
Shield: 120/180
Conclusion: Advanced logi gives up 60 shield in exchange for 1 extra high, 1 extra low, 2 extra equipment, and 28 extra CPU.

Prototype: Logi / Assault
Light Weapons: 1/1
Sidearms: 1/1
Highs: 3/3
Lows: 4/3
Equipment: 3/1
PG: 69/70
CPU: 390/350
Armor: 180/180
Shield: 120/180
Conclusion: Prototype logi gives up 60 shield and 1 PG in exchange for 1 extra low, 2 extra equipment, and 40 extra CPU.


The trade-off is ridiculously imbalanced. Sure you can argue the bonuses, but the Assault's reduction to heat build up is only really important if you are using a laser rifle - even if you are using a scrambler rifle it will only allow you 3 or 4 extra shots, plus shield regen isn't that useful if you aren't going to shield tank. In contrast, logistics gets 5 hp/s armor repair plus a bonus to armor repair modules, which is much better than the assault's bonus.

Only reason I skilled into Assaults instead of Logi was because I wasn't planning on going prototype anytime soon and I need the sidearm. But now? I am NOT asking for a respec, I am asking that you address the assault class.

The new aim mechanics really do exemplify the amarr assault's lack of speed, so tanking the amarr suit is a good idea.

You get a grand total of:

443Shields
670 Armor

so a little over 1100 hp for a fully tanked proto amarr assault. Their shields imo are still subpar for it's prototype class. A toxin Caldari assault suit can easily tank 400 shields and use basic plates to allow for armor and a decent weapon, allowing them to effectively fight an amarr proto especially if the amarr isn't tanking armor. I find that a bit wack at times. Standard amarr suits arent anywhere near as efficient as the caldari blueprints.

If the amarr assault suit could use one little eensy weensy buff. Id say that it should have a lower profile to compensate for it's huge hitbox. That way i dont need to use all my low powered slots on damn Profile Dampeners, which by the way should be selling like hotcakes this season.

Dammit necro thread, I've since realized the heat build up is worth every bit of skill points!

Dammit necro thread, I've since realized the heat build up is worth every bit of skill points!

o7

Ive used my Imperial in other suits and while it drops people really well it felt completely off, those 4-5 shots makes the difference of cleaning up a whole squad in one go or having to take an overheat pause inbetween.

Where were you? I missed you tonight, busy.

And agreed. Its like having a Heat Sink built into the suit.

I'm on now at 4am, just got up . . .

All those day of staying up late, need a day to recover

Damn don't I know it, fitting the laser is insanely good with the Assault Suit. I can rack up kills from superior range, and lay down to amazing suppressive fire.

Its a terrifying thing to see beams of light cutting the air.

I'm on now at 4am, just got up . . .

All those day of staying up late, need a day to recover

I am more of a Cqc person and while i get it to work with the Imperial, its gonna be really hard work to make the flashlight work at those ranges lol



Lol at 4 am i am dangling somewhere between the floor and my keyboard, let alone shoot in a straight line.

I tend to balance between the CRD and the ELM rifles. Both are vastly different in application, but ruthlessly effective against the enemies of God.

I tend to balance between the CRD and the ELM rifles. Both are vastly different in application, but ruthlessly effective against the enemies of God.

I run both the CRD and ELM at the same time
Only time I have to choose between them is when deciding how I wish to smite them!

I run both the CRD and ELM at the same time
Only time I have to choose between them is when deciding how I wish to smite them!

I really wanna try out the commando but have revised my dual scrambler idea down to Scrambler + Breach shotgun :)

First step, Breach the compound then second step Scramble all of their brains :p

Meh I prefer to breach with an 80GJ Blaster..... a mean I would rather do it with a Large Pulse Laser Cannon.....

The LR is already deadly, you can easily see your target through the sights and when you are using it at the proper distance no one is able to outrun even your slower tracking speed. But as I stated, the bonus is only good if you are using the LR and why have a bonus that only has a decent bonus if using a specific weapon?

And yeah the logi is a bit slower. So it trades 60 shield and a little speed for all the extra highs/lows, CPU, and equipment. Still not a fair trade.

I really wanna try out the commando but have revised my dual scrambler idea down to Scrambler + Breach shotgun :)

First step, Breach the compound then second step Scramble all of their brains :p

Personally I would never run a shotgun as a commando not only because I'm an Amarr purist but because the commando doesn't have the closing speed to use CQC weapons.