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Luna Angelo wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Luna Angelo wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Luna Angelo wrote:

All of this squabbling is meaningless. Do you want to be known as a blind soldier, a martyr for an empire who cares nothing for you, or would you rather make a name for yourself (as well as money)? I know what I want. Do I have loyalties? Yes, to my allies in We Who Walk Alone and M.T.A.C. Other than that, I care only for the money that I get.

I would gladly martyr myself in the name of the Amarr.

Then I feel sorry for you, my friend. If you ever see the light (pun intended), please tell me. I would gladly teach you the true path of the mercenary.

I am not a mercenary friend. I am a Templar Crusader for the Praetoriate.

I go where the Empress commands and kill where God wills it done. My reward is far greater than mere money.

I am the chosen of God, empowered by the Empress the bring the Faith the furthest stars of New Eden.

"Chosen, you are first before God.
You are the True and the Faithful.
But in such a state must you hold yourselves high above all.
And constantly prove yourself worthy of Gods Love.
How can such a gift be repaid,
Other than to toil all our days,
In his glorious service,
According to his will,
Serving him always,
Bearing him first in our thoughts,
Always must we strive to show him our worth,
For we are the Chosen, Blessed above all."
- The Scriptures, Anoyia's Exhortation to the Faithful

First off, I never said you were a merc, just that if you chose this life, I'd be happy to show you the ropes. Secondly, your religious dogma and your Empress (who broke your own sacred laws, if rumors are true) do not impress me. Pay me enough, and I will fight for you. If your enemies pay me more next battle, I will fight for them. The only allegiance I have, as I said before, is to my corporation and it's allies.

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Yun Hee Ryeon Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 110	Posted - 2013.07.19 13:57:00 - [31] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Freedom is a way of life not a way of thinking. An artificial distinction-- it is difficult to have one without the other. Interestingly, the Caldari, also, often go on about "freedom." They just mean it in a more historically traditional manner: freedom of our peoples from foreign intervention. Yours, specifically.
Michael Arck sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 331	Posted - 2013.07.20 00:39:00 - [32] - Quote I would like to invite you to some of our famous tea. You should join me in the ceremony for uttering such blasphemy
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 675	Posted - 2013.07.20 01:29:00 - [33] - Quote Yun Hee Ryeon wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: Freedom is a way of life not a way of thinking. An artificial distinction-- it is difficult to have the first without the second. Interestingly, the Caldari, also, often go on about "freedom." They just mean it in a more historically traditional manner: freedom of our peoples from foreign intervention. Yours, specifically. That's kind of like I was thinking but more around the lines of free to be ruled instead of governed. Freedom isn't a way of thinking because everything is created free and those freedoms are taken away. By default all things want prosperity and stability, we just bring those things to them in a better way. We have our problems but they are not that bad.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 751	Posted - 2013.07.20 01:33:00 - [34] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Freedom is a way of life not a way of thinking. As is the Faith of the Amarr or the Meritocracy of the Caldari. Who are you to question these people and tell them their way of life is wrong or lesser than your own?
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 29	Posted - 2013.07.20 02:16:00 - [35] - Quote All of this squabbling is meaningless. Do you want to be known as a blind soldier, a martyr for an empire who cares nothing for you, or would you rather make a name for yourself (as well as money)? I know what I want. Do I have loyalties? Yes, to my allies in We Who Walk Alone and M.T.A.C. Other than that, I care only for the money that I get.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 751	Posted - 2013.07.20 02:18:00 - [36] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: All of this squabbling is meaningless. Do you want to be known as a blind soldier, a martyr for an empire who cares nothing for you, or would you rather make a name for yourself (as well as money)? I know what I want. Do I have loyalties? Yes, to my allies in We Who Walk Alone and M.T.A.C. Other than that, I care only for the money that I get. I would gladly martyr myself in the name of the Amarr.
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 29	Posted - 2013.07.20 02:21:00 - [37] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: All of this squabbling is meaningless. Do you want to be known as a blind soldier, a martyr for an empire who cares nothing for you, or would you rather make a name for yourself (as well as money)? I know what I want. Do I have loyalties? Yes, to my allies in We Who Walk Alone and M.T.A.C. Other than that, I care only for the money that I get. I would gladly martyr myself in the name of the Amarr. Then I feel sorry for you, my friend. If you ever see the light (pun intended), please tell me. I would gladly teach you the true path of the mercenary.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 751	Posted - 2013.07.20 02:34:00 - [38] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: True Adamance wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: All of this squabbling is meaningless. Do you want to be known as a blind soldier, a martyr for an empire who cares nothing for you, or would you rather make a name for yourself (as well as money)? I know what I want. Do I have loyalties? Yes, to my allies in We Who Walk Alone and M.T.A.C. Other than that, I care only for the money that I get. I would gladly martyr myself in the name of the Amarr. Then I feel sorry for you, my friend. If you ever see the light (pun intended), please tell me. I would gladly teach you the true path of the mercenary. I am not a mercenary friend. I am a Templar Crusader for the Praetoriate. I go where the Empress commands and kill where God wills it done. My reward is far greater than mere money. I am the chosen of God, empowered by the Empress the bring the Faith the furthest stars of New Eden. "Chosen, you are first before God. You are the True and the Faithful. But in such a state must you hold yourselves high above all. And constantly prove yourself worthy of Gods Love. How can such a gift be repaid, Other than to toil all our days, In his glorious service, According to his will, Serving him always, Bearing him first in our thoughts, Always must we strive to show him our worth, For we are the Chosen, Blessed above all." - The Scriptures, Anoyia's Exhortation to the Faithful
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 30	Posted - 2013.07.20 04:44:00 - [39] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: True Adamance wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: All of this squabbling is meaningless. Do you want to be known as a blind soldier, a martyr for an empire who cares nothing for you, or would you rather make a name for yourself (as well as money)? I know what I want. Do I have loyalties? Yes, to my allies in We Who Walk Alone and M.T.A.C. Other than that, I care only for the money that I get. I would gladly martyr myself in the name of the Amarr. Then I feel sorry for you, my friend. If you ever see the light (pun intended), please tell me. I would gladly teach you the true path of the mercenary. I am not a mercenary friend. I am a Templar Crusader for the Praetoriate. I go where the Empress commands and kill where God wills it done. My reward is far greater than mere money. I am the chosen of God, empowered by the Empress the bring the Faith the furthest stars of New Eden. "Chosen, you are first before God. You are the True and the Faithful. But in such a state must you hold yourselves high above all. And constantly prove yourself worthy of Gods Love. How can such a gift be repaid, Other than to toil all our days, In his glorious service, According to his will, Serving him always, Bearing him first in our thoughts, Always must we strive to show him our worth, For we are the Chosen, Blessed above all." - The Scriptures, Anoyia's Exhortation to the Faithful First off, I never said you were a merc, just that if you chose this life, I'd be happy to show you the ropes. Secondly, your religious dogma and your Empress (who broke your own sacred laws, if rumors are true) do not impress me. Pay me enough, and I will fight for you. If your enemies pay me more next battle, I will fight for them. The only allegiance I have, as I said before, is to my corporation and it's allies.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 751	Posted - 2013.07.20 05:01:00 - [40] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: True Adamance wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: True Adamance wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: All of this squabbling is meaningless. Do you want to be known as a blind soldier, a martyr for an empire who cares nothing for you, or would you rather make a name for yourself (as well as money)? I know what I want. Do I have loyalties? Yes, to my allies in We Who Walk Alone and M.T.A.C. Other than that, I care only for the money that I get. I would gladly martyr myself in the name of the Amarr. Then I feel sorry for you, my friend. If you ever see the light (pun intended), please tell me. I would gladly teach you the true path of the mercenary. I am not a mercenary friend. I am a Templar Crusader for the Praetoriate. I go where the Empress commands and kill where God wills it done. My reward is far greater than mere money. I am the chosen of God, empowered by the Empress the bring the Faith the furthest stars of New Eden. "Chosen, you are first before God. You are the True and the Faithful. But in such a state must you hold yourselves high above all. And constantly prove yourself worthy of Gods Love. How can such a gift be repaid, Other than to toil all our days, In his glorious service, According to his will, Serving him always, Bearing him first in our thoughts, Always must we strive to show him our worth, For we are the Chosen, Blessed above all." - The Scriptures, Anoyia's Exhortation to the Faithful First off, I never said you were a merc, just that if you chose this life, I'd be happy to show you the ropes. Secondly, your religious dogma and your Empress (who broke your own sacred laws, if rumors are true) do not impress me. Pay me enough, and I will fight for you. If your enemies pay me more next battle, I will fight for them. The only allegiance I have, as I said before, is to my corporation and it's allies. A foe who does not fight with conviction or principle is weak foe indeed is this not so? One who kills for no other reason than money is also a weak unprincipled foe. As for the Empire, such should impress you. We are the chosen children of God who shall bring the Light to all of the stars.

Michael Arck sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 342	Posted - 2013.07.20 05:06:00 - [41] - Quote I expect a fool to say such nonsense when the fool hasn't read the entire article. Though we are pushed back, the Caldari is not to be counted out. The scum Gallente's effort was only helped by Korea traitorous efforts. It's most unwise to think we are twiddling thumbs.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 678	Posted - 2013.07.20 14:08:00 - [42] - Quote I said earlier that they are inept because they had it and failed. They should have finished what they started or advance more slowly. Classic mistake of too much too fast. Slow down and finish what you start or go home. Looks like the Caldari are going to be going home. I am not saying we are going to win anything. I am saying that you can't hold what you have and we are going to push you back to your little pocket of space and let you rot there like we have been.
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 32	Posted - 2013.07.20 15:06:00 - [43] - Quote Again, your religious dogma does not impress, nor does your "Empire", squabbling children that they are. You are the most wealthy, I will give you that, but what did that wealth get you in your war with the Jove?
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 752	Posted - 2013.07.20 15:10:00 - [44] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: Again, your religious dogma does not impress, nor does your "Empire", squabbling children that they are. You are the most wealthy, I will give you that, but what did that wealth get you in your war with the Jove? and whose race would be utterly destroyed by the Jove in a single night? Not the Amarr assuredly. We actually have developed ourselves since the stone age.... Why tout our loss to the Jove? We are the only empire capable of taking such a loss and recovering from it. Our tenacity and fervour in working in God's name is great. If you want to tout victiories and losses how about I pose to you how it felt being a puppet government of the Federation conned into opposing the true sons and daughters of God for their own selfish reasons? As for the squabbling children you should know that Amarrian space is perhaps the safest and most stable you will find anywhere in New Eden
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 678	Posted - 2013.07.20 15:29:00 - [45] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: Again, your religious dogma does not impress, nor does your "Empire", squabbling children that they are. You are the most wealthy, I will give you that, but what did that wealth get you in your war with the Jove? and whose race would be utterly destroyed by the Jove in a single night? Not the Amarr assuredly. We actually have developed ourselves since the stone age.... Why tout our loss to the Jove? We are the only empire capable of taking such a loss and recovering from it. Our tenacity and fervour in working in God's name is great. If you want to tout victiories and losses how about I pose to you how it felt being a puppet government of the Federation conned into opposing the true sons and daughters of God for their own selfish reasons? As for the squabbling children you should know that Amarrian space is perhaps the safest and most stable you will find anywhere in New Eden I guess, my entire argument is that the Caldari had the chance to wipe our militia out and take our space but they folded and now are not looking so hot. The reason for this comes from the brainwashing they receive, it is hard for me to explain. Freedoms stimulate creativity and passion for discovery and we think differently. The closest word I have for it is arrogance. It's why winners win and losers fall back and then repeat only to lose. Goes back to my whole "the rich get richer" thing and the reason it hurts is because it's true. Listen, I've been up mining and popping rats for about 20 hours so I am going to get some rest. Feel free to let me know how you think I am wrong or whatever someone else tells you to think or say. I'm easy like my sister so just talk away and when I'm done winning I'll get back to you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib3Y-Q3QnOk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 275	Posted - 2013.07.20 15:35:00 - [46] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: I guess, my entire argument is that the Caldari had the chance to wipe our militia out and take our space but they folded and now are not looking so hot. The reason for this comes from the brainwashing they receive, it is hard for me to explain. Freedoms stimulate creativity and passion for discovery and we think differently. The closest word I have for it is arrogance. It's why winners win and losers fall back and then repeat only to lose. Goes back to my whole "the rich get richer" thing and the reason it hurts is because it's true. Listen, I've been up mining and popping rats for about 20 hours so I am going to get some rest. Feel free to let me know how you think I am wrong or whatever someone else tells you to think or say. I'm easy like my sister so just talk away and when I'm done winning I'll get back to you. We try to explain this to you, but you keep your eyes closed, ignoring that arguments we are putting up and even if you admit that we are correct on one thing, you start arguing on an entirely different point. You obviously are far beyond reasoning, so I'm not going to even try anymore. Enjoy your false sense of pride and accomplishment, you have achieved nothing.
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 32	Posted - 2013.07.20 20:01:00 - [47] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: Again, your religious dogma does not impress, nor does your "Empire", squabbling children that they are. You are the most wealthy, I will give you that, but what did that wealth get you in your war with the Jove? and whose race would be utterly destroyed by the Jove in a single night? Not the Amarr assuredly. We actually have developed ourselves since the stone age.... Why tout our loss to the Jove? We are the only empire capable of taking such a loss and recovering from it. Our tenacity and fervour in working in God's name is great. If you want to tout victiories and losses how about I pose to you how it felt being a puppet government of the Federation conned into opposing the true sons and daughters of God for their own selfish reasons? As for the squabbling children you should know that Amarrian space is perhaps the safest and most stable you will find anywhere in New Eden I'm not beholden to any government, so that argument is null. Also, I was referring to ALL the Empire's leaders, not just the Amarr.
Khal V'Rani Nephilim Initiative 195	Posted - 2013.07.23 06:05:00 - [48] - Quote Some people speak of their brand of freedom as if it is the only way of life worth living. My freedom comes from knowing what I need to do to provide for those I serve with. I live and fight for those who stand shoulder to shoulder with me as we have a basic cause. And that is to win. Some want to win for The State. Some want to win for the glory, others money. Me, I live for my brothers and sisters in arms. I don't care where they come from. Can you say the same? You who speak hatred of a people for the way they choose to live? Yes, we Caldari choose our way of life. Which is why we split from your "freedom". Come and show us all how forcing your brand of freedom is more righteous and a better way of life, even though we've already shown you what we think of your way of life by exercising our freedom.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 758	Posted - 2013.07.23 06:51:00 - [49] - Quote Just letting you know it's wrong, not trying to win you over. I stood with the Caldari but they did me wrong and I have no need for them now.
Yun Hee Ryeon Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 126	Posted - 2013.07.23 17:44:00 - [50] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Just letting you know it's wrong, not trying to win you over. I stood with the Caldari but they did me wrong and I have no need for them now. That is an interestingly Caldari attitude, soldier. If you actually believe in individualism, it should not be possible for an entire nation to wrong you. You also seem to suggest that your grudge against the State is personal rather than political, which seems to fly in the face of some of your rhetoric. Do you care to clarify?

The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 771	Posted - 2013.07.23 22:00:00 - [51] - Quote The Intaki supported the Caldari, fought for them and with them and we were treated like second class citizens. I am personally and politically disappointed with the State. The people allow these things to happen so I have no love for any of them any more. "Federation forces in the Intaki system fell to the State Protectorate, ceding occupancy to the Caldari state. Unrest and violence broke out in places on the Intaki homeworld, divided between pro-Federation, pro-State and Intaki secessionist factions." "As with all other Caldari-occupied systems, Intaki was barred from voting in the Gallente presidential elections." These are just two reasons, there are plenty more.
Yun Hee Ryeon Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 130	Posted - 2013.07.23 22:34:00 - [52] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: The Intaki supported the Caldari, fought for them and with them and we were treated like second class citizens. I am personally and politically disappointed with the State. The people allow these things to happen so I have no love for any of them any more. Some Intaki fought for the State in the original Caldari/Gallente War. Some of these ended up joining Mordu's Legion. Others live in the State as a client state to the Caldari-- just like we Achura do. For the record, soldier, anybody can become a full Caldari citizen by becoming culturally Caldari. The Caldari are highly protective of their culture; that's sort of the point of the State. The rest of us are welcome there so long as we're willing to govern ourselves and live apart. If you're holding the State responsible for the actions of a few shameful, Dragonaur-inspired idiots who, I might point out, revolted against the State, you'll have little reason to argue if we hold the Gallente responsible for the actions of the U-Nats and similar fools. Quote: "Federation forces in the Intaki system fell to the State Protectorate, ceding occupancy to the Caldari state. Unrest and violence broke out in places on the Intaki homeworld, divided between pro-Federation, pro-State and Intaki secessionist factions." Yes, I remember. Quite unfortunate-- but how is this the fault of the Caldari? The Federation agreed to a CONCORD-mediated war that left Intaki in the war zone. You'll note it's not the Caldari rioting in the streets in this historical snippet. Neither, in fact, is it even all pro-State versus pro-Federal. Quote: "As with all other Caldari-occupied systems, Intaki was barred from voting in the Gallente presidential elections." Again, how precisely is a Federal action the State's fault? The Federation loses control of the Intaki system in a war, so you blame the people they were fighting? A bit partisan, are you not, soldier? Quote: These are just two reasons, there are plenty more. Please continue. And then perhaps we can trot out our own grievances, and we can see whether they match. The more you make us suffer for all the suffering we have caused you, the more reason you give us to make you suffer for all the suffering you have caused us. There is always reason to fight, soldier. I suppose we'll get to see, eventually, whether pseudo-immortals like us still have any reason to want peace.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 771	Posted - 2013.07.23 23:04:00 - [53] - Quote The Caldari government and the people who support them destroy innocent lives. They are murders and oppressors, they didn't need those territories and they didn't need to do it with force. We were happy living with our Caldari country men and we were peacefully going about our business we were stabbed in the back and forced to flee or fight. I will not be treated like that and they can go to hell!
Yun Hee Ryeon Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 130	Posted - 2013.07.24 00:21:00 - [54] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: The Caldari government and the people who support them destroy innocent lives. They are murders and oppressors, they didn't need those territories and they didn't need to do it with force. We were happy living with our Caldari country men and we were peacefully going about our business we were stabbed in the back and forced to flee or fight. I will not be treated like that and they can go to hell! What, you mean the Gallentean systems in the Emyprean War? Something to get clear, soldier: the Caldari didn't particularly want that war. They wanted Caldari Prime, and, Tibus Heth being Tibus Heth, Tibus Heth took it on behalf of the State. It's arguably the most popular thing he ever did. The Federation, noticing that it was in a bit of a bind on that front, what with the orbiting doomsday device (a situation that has resolved only recently), conceded that Caldari Prime was lost-- and declared war elsewhere in essentially the same breath. We're not at war because the State wants to expand its domain over Intaki or any other frontier world, soldier. We're at war because the Federation couldn't stand losing the Caldari homeworld like that (that is, with hardly a shot fired) and insisted on making the State pay in blood.
Shattered Mirage The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 55	Posted - 2013.08.03 09:47:00 - [55] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: The Caldari government and the people who support them destroy innocent lives. They are murders and oppressors, they didn't need those territories and they didn't need to do it with force. We were happy living with our Caldari country men and we were peacefully going about our business we were stabbed in the back and forced to flee or fight. I will not be treated like that and they can go to hell! "We will not permit you to tell us how to be Caldari , and so you leave us with no choice." GÇöExcerpt from the Caldari Proclamation of Secession. CE 23154.11.22 Your government tried to change us; change our traditions. Who are they to do so? "Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest." GÇöCEP response to Federation demands for unconditional surrender after initial bombardment of Caldari Prime. CE 23155.1.18 You bombarded our planet from orbit; while there were millions of civilians still on the planet, afterwards you demanded an unconditional surrender from the State. You call that just? We Caldari did our best to minimize the civilian casualties, unlike you . All we wanted was to retain our cultural identity and autonomy. You will find me on the front-lines, slaughtering Gallentean Military forces and civilians. Everywhere. I. Go.
Leithe Akari Yulani Risk Control Services 1	Posted - 2013.08.03 09:59:00 - [56] - Quote Shattered Mirage wrote: "We will not permit you to tell us how to be Caldari , and so you leave us with no choice." GÇöExcerpt from the Caldari Proclamation of Secession. CE 23154.11.22 This is a sentiment I share. Why is it that the Gallenteans blindly follow their own code and defend their moral positions with such adamance but immediately condemn those of other?
Shattered Mirage The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 56	Posted - 2013.08.03 10:01:00 - [57] - Quote Leithe Akari wrote: Shattered Mirage wrote: "We will not permit you to tell us how to be Caldari , and so you leave us with no choice." GÇöExcerpt from the Caldari Proclamation of Secession. CE 23154.11.22 This is a sentiment I share. Why is it that the Gallenteans blindly follow their own code and defend their moral positions with such adamance but immediately condemn those of other? They seem to believe their way is the only way...
Leithe Akari Yulani Risk Control Services 1	Posted - 2013.08.03 10:44:00 - [58] - Quote Shattered Mirage wrote: Leithe Akari wrote: Shattered Mirage wrote: "We will not permit you to tell us how to be Caldari , and so you leave us with no choice." GÇöExcerpt from the Caldari Proclamation of Secession. CE 23154.11.22 This is a sentiment I share. Why is it that the Gallenteans blindly follow their own code and defend their moral positions with such adamance but immediately condemn those of other? They seem to believe their way is the only way... The old ways are good ways, and worth defending.


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