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Posted - 2013.07.17 22:23:00 -
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I posted this in the feedback section:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1068096#post1068096
This post is to garner much needed support for the idea.
For purpose of disclosure I have 19.5 Million SP, the only stake I have in this is I want to keep the game alive and competitive. |
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Xender17
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Posted - 2013.07.17 22:24:00 -
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No |
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Green Living
0uter.Heaven EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.17 22:25:00 -
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16 million SP player here and I approve this message. |
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Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
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Posted - 2013.07.17 22:26:00 -
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It's a No from me as well. |
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Killar-12
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Posted - 2013.07.17 22:30:00 -
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10.1 mil player and I approve of this. |
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Sotapopthegrey gay
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.17 22:32:00 -
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13mill, i really like woman. i approve of this post. |
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Posted - 2013.07.17 22:32:00 -
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my alt approves of this post
but i do not |
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Sona Nara
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.07.17 22:34:00 -
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It's not a bad idea really. CCP say its so that casual players have a similar progression rate to hardcore players but I think it's so that a player won't burn through the skills too fast and get bored. In terms of fairness it's no different from playing against someone that has played for 3 months longer than you.
TBH it doesn't bother me either way though. The cap is high enough that you don't lose out too much really. |
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Another Heavy SOB
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Posted - 2013.07.17 22:34:00 -
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I had a similar idea myself a few weeks ago, https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1033876#post1033876
I think 10 mill might be a bit much and potentially detract from booster sales. I know personally at 13mill I no longer worry about buying boosters.
However something needs to be done for NPE. |
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Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.17 22:39:00 -
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i really think that it should be uncap until you can fully spec out one class.
One weapon One sidearm
one equipment one suit
all spec before cap, something like that. |
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Promethius Franklin
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.07.17 22:40:00 -
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Sotapopthegrey gay wrote:i really think that it should be uncap until you can fully spec out one class. One weapon One sidearm one equipment one suit all spec before cap, something like that. What of those who don't stick to a particular spec? |
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Sotapopthegrey gay
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.17 22:44:00 -
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Promethius Franklin wrote:Sotapopthegrey gay wrote:i really think that it should be uncap until you can fully spec out one class. One weapon One sidearm one equipment one suit all spec before cap, something like that. What of those who don't stick to a particular spec?
then start grinding.
maybe i read that wrong but if they spec into a class they don\'t like? |
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Another Heavy SOB
TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.17 22:55:00 -
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Sotapopthegrey gay wrote:i really think that it should be uncap until you can fully spec out one class. One weapon One sidearm one equipment one suit all spec before cap, something like that.
There's a couple issues with that though. Mostly that the SP required fully skill each of the items you mentioned could vary greatly. Not a set # or amount of SP which would add a whole new level of difficulty to coding such a system.
Besides I don't believe you need to reach prototype level for everything relative to a certain role just to get a feel for it and see if that's how you want to continue. |
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Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.17 22:56:00 -
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18mil SP with 0 wasted SP and *still* not maxed out in my chosen class + proto swarms.
I support this proposal. |
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Alldin Kan
Internal Error.
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Posted - 2013.07.17 23:06:00 -
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[Removing SP cap until a player reaches 6-10 Million SP]
This is mandatory. |
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DJINN Loki
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.17 23:11:00 -
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i agree completely. they should remove the cap for new players until a certain number is reached or give them a larger cap, maybe 350k a week?. i love this game and i want to see it succeed. |
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Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.17 23:14:00 -
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DJINN Loki wrote:i agree completely. they should remove the cap for new players until a certain number is reached or give them a larger cap, maybe 350k a week?. i love this game and i want to see it succeed. i personally like the idea of a permanent rolling SP cap. Out of town for a week? That's fine... your bonus SP just keeps accruing on a daily basis for when you can come back to the grind.
You could make the rolling cap A) universal based on game release date / earliest SP opportunities or B) make it based on your character's birthdate. Each has its benefits / drawbacks. |
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Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.17 23:38:00 -
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Another Heavy SOB wrote:Sotapopthegrey gay wrote:i really think that it should be uncap until you can fully spec out one class. One weapon One sidearm one equipment one suit all spec before cap, something like that. There's a couple issues with that though. Mostly that the SP required to fully skill each of the items you mentioned could vary greatly. It's not a set # or amount of SP which would add a whole new level of difficulty to coding such a system. Besides I don't believe you need to reach prototype level for everything relative to a certain role just to get a feel for it and see if that's how you want to continue.
what about when you start a char you get to chose a role i.e. heavies. then when you first start a match this heavy is full spec to a point. |
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The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1700
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Posted - 2013.07.17 23:51:00 -
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Sounds allright to me. Keeps new players keep playing and after a month of hardcore grinding they would actually be a usefull addition to most corps. Instead of running around in militia stuff for the first 3 weeks and getting murdered over and over again by players who have 10 mil sp+.
Btw i got 16.6 mil SP. |
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Posted - 2013.07.17 23:57:00 -
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12mil CCP should do this it would save new players a big headache and keep their interest |
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Allah's Snackbar
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.18 00:19:00 -
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The game has only been out for two months and people are wanting to wave the white flag?
Interesting. |
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Shattered Mirage
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2013.07.18 00:20:00 -
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I agree...
It should stop when they hit 7,000,000 SP; its enough to fully spec out one class and to start branching out into others |
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2-Ton Twenty-One
Internal Error.
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Posted - 2013.07.18 00:24:00 -
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16 mil player and I agree with this. |
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SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2013.07.18 00:28:00 -
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Its deffinitly a temporary solution to a long term problem. But hey, if nothing better comes in I wouldn't mind this! 17.4 million SP character |
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Allah's Snackbar
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.18 00:28:00 -
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Shattered Mirage wrote:I agree...
It should stop when they hit 7,000,000 SP; its enough to fully spec out one class and to start branching out into others Dude, free game - many alts.
You could spec out in many directions with different alts and probably never hit a cap in any week that you would care about.
The problem is the skill cliff that CCP thinking they would be all edgy and different by creating but it just formed a gulf between rusted on bitter vets and pub stomped newbies.
Dust is a game where one of the few objectives is to metaphorically eat your young. |
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Not Guilty EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.18 00:33:00 -
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10.3 mil sp here. I think that the threshold should be around 2-3 mil SP, where the player has enough SP to field a decent fit. Also I think academy battles should hold players up until thy hit 2 mil SP, or possibly 100k WP. |
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Posted - 2013.07.18 16:19:00 -
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shameless bumb. |
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Razor Signal
Wraith Company
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Posted - 2013.07.18 16:43:00 -
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I like this idea. I think 5-7 million would be a good place to place the cap. It's terribly boring not feeling like you're making any progression in a game that seems only partially 'finished', despite being a 'full release'. I'm all for grinding but when the cap is hit, I don't feel as if I'm making any significant progress despite enjoying what options I currently have in the game.
I'd probably still buy boosters, just to help me get there faster, but it would definitely encourage people to play more and more often once they were able to get a taste of what having decent gear is like and feeling as if they were getting somewhere. Personally, I'm already burned out and feel like I've had a taste of what the game has to offer. I hate feeling as if I have to resort to making alts in order to attain that sense of reward my brain has been hardwired for from grinding.
Jerk MMOs and their jerk psychological gaming my neurotrans and biochems. |
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Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
555
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Posted - 2013.07.18 16:49:00 -
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13.7 mil SP and I approve this message.
Better new player experience is a must!!!![Attention](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_attention.png) ![Attention](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_attention.png) ![Attention](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_attention.png)
uncap till 8mil SP achieved.
double cap till 16mil SP achieved
>16 mil SP current cap system
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Nikodaemon
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.29 01:40:00 -
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i'm a new player and sp cap is bs. I quit 5 other pc games cuz I like the gameplay, bought my first aug only to learn of weekly cap. Fkn bs. what kind of game producer limits play from its payees? I would pump hundreds into this game, as I have dozens of other free-to-play games. but now I learn it is cap'd? wtf? I mean, really, what kind of psychology limits you? like im going to buy more active boosters when I figured out they suck 4-5 days into it? ccp? do you even care? post a response if you even do, then I might take you serious... bet 50 aur they don't.... |
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