Again and again, I have seen one question asked in regards to our community:

Why do the people who play the game the most, and score the best, spend so much time talking about how it's doomed to fail?

Why do the people who've spent the money to run Active and Passive Boosters since day-one in order to keep their SP levels as high as possible seem so invested in "spreading the word" about how terrible it is.

The answer is simple, and will be made self-evident as they come to denounce my hypothesis:

They can be at the top when it falls.


Consider for a moment what happens when you leave a game. Naturally, even after you yourself have stopped playing, other people continue to do so. Since most shooters in particular offer Leaderboards as a way for players to rate themselves and possibly use their position for some bragging rights, leaving a game means that your space is now open to someone else.

Now, in the case of nearly all shooters, this makes no difference. In a year or maybe two at most, a new version of the game will be out, and you can get it on day one and attain your exalted position once more. Even in a persistent game like Planetside 2, you can come back to it a year or so down the line, buy some boosters, and grind your way up to the ranks of the longest-lived characters.

Dust 514 does not allow this. Even when the new SP rollover system is implemented to replace the current hard cap that resets on Wednesdays, departing Dust means that not only is your leaderboard spot open to any other player, but now you have only been gaining Passive SP in the intervening time, and will be forever behind those who didn't take a leave of absence like you did.

In layman's terms: if these people leave, they lose. Any player, maybe even one far less skilled than them, can continue to play after they've left, gain more SP than they have and now can keep ahead of them, and maybe even attain their leaderboard rank with their better gear and more advanced knowledge.

Conversely, if Dust 514 is shut down while they are still dumping cash into boosters each month and grinding day after day to keep their leaderboard positions, win/loss ratio, or whatever metric is important to them, they will forever be at the top of this game, because it is no longer there for anyone to compete with them.


Basically, stop trying to figure them out, because this attitude isn't based in logic.

It's based in ego.

You all do realize that CCP has a history of starting what it can't finish... right?

prove this to me with more than a ******** 1 liner....

To be fair: Walking in Stations, Ship Crews, Atmospheric Flight...

They've shown some cool stuff that was mostly pipe-dream, and hasn't come yet, but some of the other things they've talked about have come, like Planetary Interaction.

The eve communty flipped the **** out. And ccp dropped it. Thats not their blame the EvE fana for that one

We're well aware that in 3078 after we've achieved immortality for some time through duct tape clones and DUST 514 is officially released; that the game will be a beautiful, wondrous pie in the sky.

The reason you see people who spent all that time and money on this game so upset is because they "invested" their time and money into this game, and are disappointed as both customers and gamers by not only the state of the game, but by the overall direction and way it's being approached.

We like the doom and gloom because we got so used to having our hopes shattered in front of us, that it's just so much more fun to sap the life out of everyone so no one gets disappointed when promises go up in smoke.

This is it. Most doom and gloomers are players who have been here for over a year and have very little to show for all there time and $$$$. These forums are the only outlet to WARN potential new players to not fall hook line and sinker for a couple of demos and alot of promises. (Fanfest 2011 PvE stage demo)

I for one agree with most vets complaining because I feel shafted by bad developement choices and terrible balance issues. Can you blame most people complaining and trolling legitimate issues? No, and if you do your just like mobius here, an utter fanboi.

CCP must look at the forums and see that the player base has overwhelmingly turned these pages into troll city due to their incompetence to communicate and the uncanny inability to create a great shooter experience, as they said AAA is their goal.

So take these forums as a sign from the community as to the state of the game.

I would also suggest that it is these individuals who experience a heightened sense of reward for their efforts at being the 'best'; a cocktail of dopamine and serotonin, adrenaline and so on that they are receiving with every match. It no doubt comes at a cost, as the come down from these neurological highs are possibly accompanied by aggression, depression and so on which leads them to lash out at the developers, the community and the game that is rewarding them.

Even the inherent nature of grinding for SPs contains addictive properties. This is why, partially, MMO's are so successful. Combine MMO mechanics with an FPS and you've got an interesting reaction happening within the players. Now, cap the SP and cut off the gamers supply of resource that allows them to advance significantly and you've created a dangerous animal.

Just my two cents.

Thread is fail


In Dust after a certain point you only grow side ways not upwards

An assualt with 10 mill SP specalized is just as strong as an assualt with 20 mil SP

I just play cause I am crazy and think this game will do a 180+

Thread is fail


In Dust after a certain point you only grow side ways not upwards

An assualt with 10 mill SP specalized is just as strong as an assualt with 20 mil SP

I just play cause I am crazy and think this game will do a 180+