DUST Search - Dear CCP: You suck

Garrett Blacknova wrote:

Lu Mengz wrote:

Respond to me and explain to me why you think it's okay to launch an unfinished game - I'd love to know.

Worked for Ubisoft with every Assassin's Creed game so far.
Worked for Armored Core V.
Worked for XCOM.
Worked for Skyrim.

~~Worked for Brink~~ ok, maybe not
~~Worked for Syndicate~~ ok, maybe not
~~Worked for Ace Combat: Assault Horizon~~ ok, maybe not

Notice how most of the successful examples are games which received patches soon after release, and have seen continuing support for a decent amount of time post-release. Not all of them (Looking at Assassin's Creed) have seen consistent improvement or lasting support, but most of the time, it's a good point in their favour. The ones that failed suffered because of a lack of support in at least one timeframe. Brink failed at short-term support, with their initial release needing (and not receiving) urgent attention. The game shipped broken, and the devs waited FAR too long to fix it. Syndicate just never got patches for any but the first identified problem on the XBox 360 version. Assault Horizon's oficial website had been closed down before they got around to patching the game, and most of the game-breaking issues have been left untouched, and it's still in need of a LOT of further improvements.

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Lu Mengz Shining Flame Amarr Empire 15	Posted - 2013.07.15 12:53:00 - [31] - Quote ChromeBreaker wrote: Lu Mengz wrote: I can agree with this - and admit I didn't take high slots into consideration. Sorry. I was too agressive to you and apologize. No worries, just doing rage on the forums... it doesnt help Been here for a year - talking to them doesn't help either.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 3339	Posted - 2013.07.15 13:02:00 - [32] - Quote Here is a quick tip. If you are about to hack an objective, throw a grenade (any grenade) in front of the control panel to clear out any hidden explosives. People do this all the time and the tactic has been around since Codex build (closed beta). Also, have a squad back you up. Heavies were never meant to be alone and are designed primarily for point defense while the friendly assault and scout hunt down the enemy as a logibro repairs you.
Meeko Fent Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 314	Posted - 2013.07.15 13:02:00 - [33] - Quote No one else has a counter to explosives either. I support heavies be scary again, but that is the counter we have to you. Otherwise, you are an immortal armor clad heavy kitten gun wielding behemoth. Be happy that you have heavy weapons.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3328	Posted - 2013.07.15 13:03:00 - [34] - Quote Lu Mengz wrote: Respond to me and explain to me why you think it's okay to launch an unfinished game - I'd love to know. Worked for Ubisoft with every Assassin's Creed game so far. Worked for Armored Core V. Worked for Skyrim. ~~Worked for Brink~~ ok, maybe not ~~Worked for Syndicate~~ ok, maybe not ~~Worked for Ace Combat: Assault Horizon~~ ok, maybe not Notice how most of the successful examples are games which received patches soon after release, and have seen continuing support for a decent amount of time post-release. Other than Assassin's Creed, each of the successful games has had consistent change, mostly positive, over a relatively long period post-release. The ones that failed suffered because of a lack of support in at least one timeframe. Brink failed at short-term support, with their initial release needing (and not receiving) urgent attention. The game shipped broken, and the devs waited FAR too long to fix it. Syndicate just never got patches for any but the first identified problem on the XBox 360 version. Assault Horizon's oficial website had been closed down before they got around to patching the game, and most of the game-breaking issues have been left untouched, and it's still in need of a LOT of further improvements.
SoTa of PoP Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 411	Posted - 2013.07.15 13:05:00 - [35] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Lu Mengz wrote: Respond to me and explain to me why you think it's okay to launch an unfinished game - I'd love to know. Worked for Ubisoft with every Assassin's Creed game so far. Worked for Armored Core V. Worked for XCOM. Worked for Skyrim. ~~Worked for Brink~~ ok, maybe not ~~Worked for Syndicate~~ ok, maybe not ~~Worked for Ace Combat: Assault Horizon~~ ok, maybe not Notice how most of the successful examples are games which received patches soon after release, and have seen continuing support for a decent amount of time post-release. Not all of them (Looking at Assassin's Creed) have seen consistent improvement or lasting support, but most of the time, it's a good point in their favour. The ones that failed suffered because of a lack of support in at least one timeframe. Brink failed at short-term support, with their initial release needing (and not receiving) urgent attention. The game shipped broken, and the devs waited FAR too long to fix it. Syndicate just never got patches for any but the first identified problem on the XBox 360 version. Assault Horizon's oficial website had been closed down before they got around to patching the game, and most of the game-breaking issues have been left untouched, and it's still in need of a LOT of further improvements. I see your point but... If you patch a game to break it more... what more can we expect? Uprising ftl.
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 856	Posted - 2013.07.15 13:07:00 - [36] - Quote Lu Mengz wrote: ChromeBreaker wrote: Lu Mengz wrote: I can agree with this - and admit I didn't take high slots into consideration. Sorry. I was too agressive to you and apologize. No worries, just doing rage on the forums... it doesnt help Been here for a year - talking to them doesn't help either. You would be surprised, CCP normally do pick up on things wether they actually reply or not is another matter ;) they just work at a speed that people dont understand
J Lav Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 128	Posted - 2013.07.15 13:18:00 - [37] - Quote Counter MD's and Corelock's with range. Done. It sounds to me like the OP is still figuring out what to do as a heavy. Working in a squad that understands and uses their heavy will make other squads cry that the heavy is OP. I'll give you a hint, the fact that someone has to use cover, has something to do with you being a heavy. So they can pop out and throw a bomb? That's because no one has shot them in the back yet, or your squad members are busy trying to single-handedly take on everything in the game. Or better yet, why didn't you push on them, forcing them out of cover?
SoTa of PoP Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 411	Posted - 2013.07.15 13:20:00 - [38] - Quote J Lav wrote: Counter MD's and Corelock's with range. Done. It sounds to me like the OP is still figuring out what to do as a heavy. Working in a squad that understands and uses their heavy will make other squads cry that the heavy is OP. I'll give you a hint, the fact that someone has to use cover, has something to do with you being a heavy. So they can pop out and throw a bomb? That's because no one has shot them in the back yet, or your squad members are busy trying to single-handedly take on everything in the game. Or better yet, why didn't you push on them, forcing them out of cover? ... your asking a heavy to counter with range and you say I'm trying to figure out how to play? Lmao. Ironic. btw - to all these squad comments. Are you saying this game isn't broken? Because 1 v 6 anyone can win. Please shut up about it - it's not the point of discussion. It's the inbalance any heavy faces when he dies instantly to a FP or MD with no counter to prevent it. Scrubs. EDIT: Oh wait this isn't for me, why did I read Sota?? Lol
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 857	Posted - 2013.07.15 13:21:00 - [39] - Quote J Lav wrote: Counter MD's and Corelock's with range. Done. It sounds to me like the OP is still figuring out what to do as a heavy. Working in a squad that understands and uses their heavy will make other squads cry that the heavy is OP. I'll give you a hint, the fact that someone has to use cover, has something to do with you being a heavy. So they can pop out and throw a bomb? That's because no one has shot them in the back yet, or your squad members are busy trying to single-handedly take on everything in the game. Or better yet, why didn't you push on them, forcing them out of cover? squads are OP but isnt a complete answer to balance
ACE12123 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2013.07.15 16:30:00 - [40] - Quote Quick question? What is the counter to fused nades? OP has a point.

Kiro Justice The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 422	Posted - 2013.07.15 16:37:00 - [41] - Quote Hey! It's an imperfect Alt!!
Nemo Bluntz TeamPlayers EoN. 104	Posted - 2013.07.15 17:00:00 - [42] - Quote CCP! You didn't give Caldari ANY counters to Flux Grenades?!?!?! They take away shields, but how are Caldari supposed to deal with that?!
BLKDG ROYAL SQUAD Shadow of the Apocalypse 11	Posted - 2013.07.15 17:13:00 - [43] - Quote Last one in before the thread get locked!!
Lu Mengz Shining Flame Amarr Empire 15	Posted - 2013.07.15 17:16:00 - [44] - Quote Nemo Bluntz wrote: CCP! You didn't give Caldari ANY counters to Flux Grenades?!?!?! They take away shields, but how are Caldari supposed to deal with that?! Oh, so fluxes kill you? Shields going away means death? You can't just - you know - survive on armor? Oh the pains you must feel. Nerf the flux naow!
Scheneighnay McBob Tribal Band Dust Mercenaries Immortals of War 2367	Posted - 2013.07.15 17:17:00 - [45] - Quote Lu Mengz wrote: Razor Signal wrote: Lu Mengz wrote: You launch a game without giving heavies any counters against explosive You must be ********. Your blogs say we can make perfect soldiers - that would imply verastility. WRONG - HEAVIES COST TOO MUCH FOR YOU YOU TO EVEN GIVE US PLACE HOLDERS ACCORDING TO CPM. Respond to me and explain to me why you think it's okay to launch an unfinished game - I'd love to know. Don't walk on grenades. Use cover. Look for REs. Shoot the guy with the Flaylock. You must suck to believe that to be the answer. You can't counter explosive weapons simply by shooting, they duck and fire behind terrain. Do you even PC bro? Oooh! I know how to counter that! Get a teammate to flank instead of trying to solo as a heavy!
Scheneighnay McBob Tribal Band Dust Mercenaries Immortals of War 2367	Posted - 2013.07.15 17:19:00 - [46] - Quote Nemo Bluntz wrote: CCP! You didn't give Caldari ANY counters to Flux Grenades?!?!?! They take away shields, but how are Caldari supposed to deal with that?! CCP should give caldari more armor-like, as much as gallente- so they aren't helpless when they get hit by an anti-shield weapon
SoTa of PoP Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 411	Posted - 2013.07.15 17:27:00 - [47] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Lu Mengz wrote: Razor Signal wrote: Lu Mengz wrote: You launch a game without giving heavies any counters against explosive You must be ********. Your blogs say we can make perfect soldiers - that would imply verastility. WRONG - HEAVIES COST TOO MUCH FOR YOU YOU TO EVEN GIVE US PLACE HOLDERS ACCORDING TO CPM. Respond to me and explain to me why you think it's okay to launch an unfinished game - I'd love to know. Don't walk on grenades. Use cover. Look for REs. Shoot the guy with the Flaylock. You must suck to believe that to be the answer. You can't counter explosive weapons simply by shooting, they duck and fire behind terrain. Do you even PC bro? Oooh! I know how to counter that! Get a teammate to flank instead of trying to solo as a heavy! So... The answer to the SP/ISK dump class known as the heavy whose suppose to stand toe to toe against vehicles when 1v1ing is... seek aid? Lol OP I think your an idiot but so are these replies. Also - stop typing like me the '-' is my thing. Now even I think your an imp alt.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2789	Posted - 2013.07.15 17:30:00 - [48] - Quote lolheavies Flaylock > Heavy HMG Contact nades > Heavy HMG Mass Driver > Heavy HMG
Nemo Bluntz TeamPlayers EoN. 105	Posted - 2013.07.15 17:55:00 - [49] - Quote Lu Mengz wrote: Nemo Bluntz wrote: CCP! You didn't give Caldari ANY counters to Flux Grenades?!?!?! They take away shields, but how are Caldari supposed to deal with that?! Oh, so fluxes kill you? Shields going away means death? You can't just - you know - survive on armor? Oh the pains you must feel. Nerf the flux naow! Reading right past the sarcasm.
Lu Mengz Shining Flame Amarr Empire 18	Posted - 2013.07.15 18:15:00 - [50] - Quote Nemo Bluntz wrote: Lu Mengz wrote: Nemo Bluntz wrote: CCP! You didn't give Caldari ANY counters to Flux Grenades?!?!?! They take away shields, but how are Caldari supposed to deal with that?! Oh, so fluxes kill you? Shields going away means death? You can't just - you know - survive on armor? Oh the pains you must feel. Nerf the flux naow! Reading right past the sarcasm. Sorry There's just a big difference between flux and MD/FP. You can run before the flux detonates and it won't kill you. Fattiest are sorta just effed. Wouldn't be so bad if it didn't feel like it takes 3 more bullets to kill me then any other suit at my meta level.

Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 1254	Posted - 2013.07.15 19:34:00 - [51] - Quote OP, has anyone suggesting calling in a LAV?


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