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ChromeBreaker
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Posted - 2013.07.15 11:52:00 -
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Lu Mengz wrote:You launch a game without giving heavies any counters against explosive
You must be ********. Your blogs say we can make perfect soldiers - that would imply verastility. WRONG - HEAVIES COST TOO MUCH FOR YOU YOU TO EVEN GIVE US PLACE HOLDERS ACCORDING TO CPM.
Respond to me and explain to me why you think it's okay to launch an unfinished game - I'd love to know.
Its posts like this that remind me why i dont feel bad killing noobs...
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ChromeBreaker
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Posted - 2013.07.15 11:59:00 -
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Lu Mengz wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Lu Mengz wrote:You launch a game without giving heavies any counters against explosive
You must be ********. Your blogs say we can make perfect soldiers - that would imply verastility. WRONG - HEAVIES COST TOO MUCH FOR YOU YOU TO EVEN GIVE US PLACE HOLDERS ACCORDING TO CPM.
Respond to me and explain to me why you think it's okay to launch an unfinished game - I'd love to know. Its posts like this that remind me why i dont feel bad killing noobs... Get pub stomped against Imperfects more and call others newbs please.
I stomp and get stomped, but never cry like you  .
im calling you out as a noob, and call forward your OP as evidance |
ChromeBreaker
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Posted - 2013.07.15 12:14:00 -
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Lu Mengz wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Lu Mengz wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Lu Mengz wrote:You launch a game without giving heavies any counters against explosive
You must be ********. Your blogs say we can make perfect soldiers - that would imply verastility. WRONG - HEAVIES COST TOO MUCH FOR YOU YOU TO EVEN GIVE US PLACE HOLDERS ACCORDING TO CPM.
Respond to me and explain to me why you think it's okay to launch an unfinished game - I'd love to know. Its posts like this that remind me why i dont feel bad killing noobs... Get pub stomped against Imperfects more and call others newbs please. I stomp and get stomped, but never cry like you . im calling you out as a noob, and call forward your OP as evidance Care to break and it down and explain why? I think the Imperfects stomped on your head one too many hard.
Ok ok lets spell it out nice... and... slow...
Explosives are the natural counter for the current armour heavies. Thats what they are there for. Thats what they do. Explosives are good against armour and slow moving targets...
The other heavies are coming... place holders wont work or be balanced without the new heavy weapons and a full overlook of heavies in general. They also need to be balanced against a vehicle balance as well. This will take time and might as well be done when we have the actual models ready.
The game DEVELOPS... Logis were added, sentinels were added, assault dropships were added, racial assaults were added.... New tanks, heavies, pilot suits, dropships, bombers all are coming. There is no "finished" game.
THAT is why your a noob, and a poor poor troll whos crying over stuff he hasnt been bothered to look into. |
ChromeBreaker
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Posted - 2013.07.15 12:35:00 -
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Lu Mengz wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:
Ok ok lets spell it out nice... and... slow...
Explosives are the natural counter for the current armour heavies. Thats what they are there for. Thats what they do. Explosives are good against armour and slow moving targets...
The other heavies are coming... place holders wont work or be balanced without a the new heavy weapons and a full overlook of heavies in general. They also need to be balanced against a vehicle balance as well. This will take time and might as well be done when we have the actual models are ready.
The game DEVELOPS... Logis were added, sentinels were added, assault dropships were added, racial assaults were added.... New tanks, heavies, pilot suits, dropships, bombers all are coming. There is no "finished" game.
THAT is why your a noob, and a poor poor troll whos crying over stuff he hasnt been bothered to look into.
Now I know your ********. You're actually suggesting place holder heavy suits would imbalance AV - that's a weapon problem - not suit. The weapon has nothing to do with our suit - we can equip MD and SP ourselves - it's the survivability that we sacrafice speed for health is the problem. SP in general is a side arm anyone can spec into for less then a million SP. That means every player in this game can counter heavies without problem. I agree explosive are a natural counter - but for a game who bragged about customization - to offer no counter to it at all is weak. It makes no sense. I should be able to sacrafice fire-power for defense - I can't. I should be able to counter explosives - I can't. why can every other class escape these weapons yet not offer heavies a counter? Your the weak troll here. Go back to getting beat by Imperfects and leave the thinking to people with brains - thanks.
oh i hoped you wouldnt back down...
The weapon has eveything to do with the suit!! EVERYTHING... heavy weapons for heavy suits, heavy suits for heavy weapons, you have to balance both together. It would be like balancing the assault suits without taking into account the AR.
Caldari heavy will likely have quite a few high slot... stack them with dmg mods and suddenly FG's are OP!
add in racial bonuses etc and you really get a mess
Heavies are weak against explosies, its hard to run away from them or dodge... thats how it should be. The only problem atm is that MD and god locks are too strong against EVERYTHING so heavies are having a hard time as everyones carrying them.
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ChromeBreaker
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Posted - 2013.07.15 12:41:00 -
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Lu Mengz wrote:
I can agree with this - and admit I didn't take high slots into consideration. Sorry. I was too agressive to you and apologize.
No worries, just doing rage on the forums... it doesnt help |
ChromeBreaker
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Posted - 2013.07.15 13:07:00 -
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Lu Mengz wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Lu Mengz wrote:
I can agree with this - and admit I didn't take high slots into consideration. Sorry. I was too agressive to you and apologize.
No worries, just doing rage on the forums... it doesnt help Been here for a year - talking to them doesn't help either.
You would be surprised, CCP normally do pick up on things wether they actually reply or not is another matter ;) they just work at a speed that people dont understand  |
ChromeBreaker
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Posted - 2013.07.15 13:21:00 -
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J Lav wrote:Counter MD's and Corelock's with range. Done.
It sounds to me like the OP is still figuring out what to do as a heavy. Working in a squad that understands and uses their heavy will make other squads cry that the heavy is OP. I'll give you a hint, the fact that someone has to use cover, has something to do with you being a heavy. So they can pop out and throw a bomb? That's because no one has shot them in the back yet, or your squad members are busy trying to single-handedly take on everything in the game. Or better yet, why didn't you push on them, forcing them out of cover?
squads are OP but isnt a complete answer to balance |
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