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EdyCole
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.07.14 19:26:00 -
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I'm starting to get worried, we have not peaked 5k in nearly a week and this is an event weekend. With 80mill ps3's why so few players? I remember when we had 10k, and heard fanbois say "when release hits we should have closer to 100k".
What the hell happened? Where are all the fps players at? This is free 2 play right? Are people insulted by the constant Buy this and purchase aurum marketing strategies? Do people feel left behind after CCP chose to NOT reset beta players upon Commercial release? Or is it the actual gameplay and community that is turning new players away?
Someone clue me in, WHERE IS EVERYONE AT!!!
Here are the sad declining numbers....... Eve Server Numbers |
Pje251296
KILL ORDERS
31
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Posted - 2013.07.14 19:34:00 -
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People are getting bored with the game or they are getting annoyed by the balancing in the game. |
Jed321
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.07.14 19:35:00 -
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I have been in the mcc for 2 weeks, but still adding up the numbers.
What if there were no afking? Where would the numbers be then? Like 2500? Lulz |
JerechD Diaboli
DEATH FROM ABOVE CORP
2
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Posted - 2013.07.14 19:36:00 -
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New players will probably love this when they are in the Academy battles. After that the cold reality of going against suits you can't kill and getting crushed by tanks and assault dropships your Swarm launchers only tickle, well. The grind to get the SP to unlock deadly weapons is not appealing, when every battle to get there is a constant pain.
I started an alt character. In Academy I go around 10/2. After Academy that goes to 2/10. And the only way to counter this is to avoid fights, run & hide, get that lucky hack somewhere.
In short, this game is not fun for the beginners. Hence the declining numbers. |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
162
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Posted - 2013.07.14 19:36:00 -
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those numbers are fine,the event is non existent to anyone who doesn't visit the forums... |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
254
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Posted - 2013.07.14 19:50:00 -
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It's summertime....totally normal, same things happens with EVE too every single summer.
Here in London people get confused when the sun shines, but at the moment even us rain people have sunshine outside. Only normal to spend more time outside. |
Fiddler Galaine
The United Federation New Eden Dark Taboo
1
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Posted - 2013.07.14 19:54:00 -
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Probably more lack of marketing/visibility.
More maps, game modes, and possibly SP-segregated or equipment modes would help as well.
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn
104
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:05:00 -
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most of my corp hasn't been back on since 1.2 where they all got stealth nerfed into oblivion. im on the verge of going myself but hanging on hopeing it will get counter,counter,counter,counter nerfed lol |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
404
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:07:00 -
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Lag of content, repetitive game-play, SP gap, Pub-storming, Murder taxis, red-line snipers and tanks, Pay to be competitive, Unbalance weapons and matchmaking, CCP lag of interest in the game, **** off community, No clear road-map, Potential but not delivery, better games out, Official Beta Release, Slow progress, Poor new players experience, Lag of tutorials, No story or cinematographic's, No Role Play content, Insultive AUR market with obvious P2W content, Prototype gear, Trolling OP weapons, Poor aiming mechanics, insultive KB/M support ....etc.
Pick one. |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD
950
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:19:00 -
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EdyCole wrote:I'm starting to get worried, we have not peaked 5k in nearly a week and this is an event weekend. With 80mill ps3's why so few players? I remember when we had 10k, and heard fanbois say "when release hits we should have closer to 100k". What the hell happened? Where are all the fps players at? This is free 2 play right? Are people insulted by the constant Buy this and purchase aurum marketing strategies? Do people feel left behind after CCP chose to NOT reset beta players upon Commercial release? Or is it the actual gameplay and community that is turning new players away? Someone clue me in, WHERE IS EVERYONE AT!!! Here are the sad declining numbers....... Eve Server Numbers
5000 players at any one time dude! You're acting like its 5000 total playerbase. Don't forget that there are alot of time zones worldwide. When some people are playing, others are at work. There are people out there who are not basement dwellers who sit there glued to their ps3's, most people who play dust are between the age of 20-40+, they have lives/jobs/families. Relax. |
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
1951
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:27:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Lag of content, repetitive game-play, SP gap, Pub-storming, Murder taxis, red-line snipers and tanks, Pay to be competitive, Unbalance weapons and matchmaking, CCP lag of interest in the game, **** off community, No clear road-map, Potential but not delivery, better games out, Official Beta Release, Slow progress, Poor new players experience, Lag of tutorials, No story or cinematographic's, No Role Play content, Insultive AUR market with obvious P2W content, Prototype gear, Trolling OP weapons, Poor aiming mechanics, insultive KB/M support ....etc.
Pick one.
I don't +1 many of your posts, but unfortunately this is one of them. |
A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
290
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:32:00 -
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Some of it may be because of summer but I did notice that for the 3x SP event numbers were between 5.5k and 6k but as people capped and with Mordu's event numbers have dropped below 5k again.
However, before these events numbers were in the low 4k most of the time. So their appears to be quite a few players who are around but choose not to play unless CCP chooses to provide rewards beyond simply playing the game. |
N1ck Comeau
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
732
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:38:00 -
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Numbers are at around 4.5 K
This will **** the PS2 fanboys off but Dust 514 numbers are pretty close to PS2's numbers. Dust 514 is still being born while PS2 is dieing off. |
TEXA5 HiTM4N
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
96
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:43:00 -
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As much as I want to see this game succeed it is clear CCP is too slow to make adjustments. They have until the PS4 comes out with the other games. if this game is not up to speed by then, then CCP has failed and we will have to come back in 4 years when this game is actually balanced.
I know it sounds like I am crying but when you see almost every update take 1 step forward and 3 steps back, you will keep losing faith. 1.2 was actually a pretty good update. hopefully 1.3 will bring some balance. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
796
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:45:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Lag of content, repetitive game-play, SP gap, Pub-storming, Murder taxis, red-line snipers and tanks, Pay to be competitive, Unbalance weapons and matchmaking, CCP lag of interest in the game, **** off community, No clear road-map, Potential but not delivery, better games out, Official Beta Release, Slow progress, Poor new players experience, Lag of tutorials, No story or cinematographic's, No Role Play content, Insultive AUR market with obvious P2W content, Prototype gear, Trolling OP weapons, Poor aiming mechanics, insultive KB/M support ....etc.
Pick one. CCP pay attention to this post right here. |
sxwr
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
6
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:47:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Lag of content, repetitive game-play, SP gap, Pub-storming, Murder taxis, red-line snipers and tanks, Pay to be competitive, Unbalance weapons and matchmaking, CCP lag of interest in the game, **** off community, No clear road-map, Potential but not delivery, better games out, Official Beta Release, Slow progress, Poor new players experience, Lag of tutorials, No story or cinematographic's, No Role Play content, Insultive AUR market with obvious P2W content, Prototype gear, Trolling OP weapons, Poor aiming mechanics, insultive KB/M support ....etc.
Pick one.
its called lack for one. and there is alot of back story here if look for it on the website you might even have to click a few more times and go to the eve site but its around, and this is definatly not p2w what so ever there is no items that you pay for with aurum that is better then any thing that you get with isk the only diffrence is what skill level that you need to use. the comunity is really winey though i do have to admit its actualy quite funny |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
798
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:55:00 -
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sxwr wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Lag of content, repetitive game-play, SP gap, Pub-storming, Murder taxis, red-line snipers and tanks, Pay to be competitive, Unbalance weapons and matchmaking, CCP lag of interest in the game, **** off community, No clear road-map, Potential but not delivery, better games out, Official Beta Release, Slow progress, Poor new players experience, Lag of tutorials, No story or cinematographic's, No Role Play content, Insultive AUR market with obvious P2W content, Prototype gear, Trolling OP weapons, Poor aiming mechanics, insultive KB/M support ....etc.
Pick one. its called lack for one. and there is alot of back story here if look for it on the website you might even have to click a few more times and go to the eve site but its around, and this is definatly not p2w what so ever there is no items that you pay for with aurum that is better then any thing that you get with isk the only diffrence is what skill level that you need to use. the comunity is really winey though i do have to admit its actualy quite funny
I said pick one.. i din't say you have to pick all of them. One of those alone will be enough to push away a big percentage of players. |
Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
430
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:55:00 -
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TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote:As much as I want to see this game succeed it is clear CCP is too slow to make adjustments. They have until the PS4 comes out with the other games. if this game is not up to speed by then, then CCP has failed and we will have to come back in 4 years when this game is actually balanced.
I know it sounds like I am crying but when you see almost every update take 1 step forward and 3 steps back, you will keep losing faith. 1.2 was actually a pretty good update. hopefully 1.3 will bring some balance. I've kind of been saying the same thing since right before E3.
If this game isn't MUCH better by the time BF4(which I'm not a fan of the BF series) comes out,along with PS4 which will launch with Killzone Shadowfall,Dust is pretty much screwed.The only recovery will be to relaunch on PS4,and ditch the PS3 completely. |
2-Ton Twenty-One
Internal Error. League of Infamy
722
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:56:00 -
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sxwr wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Lag of content, repetitive game-play, SP gap, Pub-storming, Murder taxis, red-line snipers and tanks, Pay to be competitive, Unbalance weapons and matchmaking, CCP lag of interest in the game, **** off community, No clear road-map, Potential but not delivery, better games out, Official Beta Release, Slow progress, Poor new players experience, Lag of tutorials, No story or cinematographic's, No Role Play content, Insultive AUR market with obvious P2W content, Prototype gear, Trolling OP weapons, Poor aiming mechanics, insultive KB/M support ....etc.
Pick one. its called lack for one. and there is alot of back story here if look for it on the website you might even have to click a few more times and go to the eve site but its around, and this is definatly not p2w what so ever there is no items that you pay for with aurum that is better then any thing that you get with isk the only diffrence is what skill level that you need to use. the comunity is really winey though i do have to admit its actualy quite funny
Fused locusts are better then the ISK ones, hacked nanohives. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1733
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:57:00 -
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DOOOOOOOOOOOM! |
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sxwr
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
12
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:00:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:sxwr wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Lag of content, repetitive game-play, SP gap, Pub-storming, Murder taxis, red-line snipers and tanks, Pay to be competitive, Unbalance weapons and matchmaking, CCP lag of interest in the game, **** off community, No clear road-map, Potential but not delivery, better games out, Official Beta Release, Slow progress, Poor new players experience, Lag of tutorials, No story or cinematographic's, No Role Play content, Insultive AUR market with obvious P2W content, Prototype gear, Trolling OP weapons, Poor aiming mechanics, insultive KB/M support ....etc.
Pick one. its called lack for one. and there is alot of back story here if look for it on the website you might even have to click a few more times and go to the eve site but its around, and this is definatly not p2w what so ever there is no items that you pay for with aurum that is better then any thing that you get with isk the only diffrence is what skill level that you need to use. the comunity is really winey though i do have to admit its actualy quite funny I said pick one.. i din't say you have to pick all of them. One of those alone will be enough to push away a big percentage of players.
im telling your wrong on a good number of them not agreeing with them |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
373
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:02:00 -
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I help keep those numbers up by AFKing on my alts.
There are more people playing BF3 then Dust.
Given all the problems BF3 has, that says a lot.
GTA 5 will drop them lower, then PS4 will put them in the basement.
If it wasnt for the core of fools who have spent obscene amounts of money on Dust, it would have already been binned. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
848
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:03:00 -
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sxwr wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:sxwr wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Lag of content, repetitive game-play, SP gap, Pub-storming, Murder taxis, red-line snipers and tanks, Pay to be competitive, Unbalance weapons and matchmaking, CCP lag of interest in the game, **** off community, No clear road-map, Potential but not delivery, better games out, Official Beta Release, Slow progress, Poor new players experience, Lag of tutorials, No story or cinematographic's, No Role Play content, Insultive AUR market with obvious P2W content, Prototype gear, Trolling OP weapons, Poor aiming mechanics, insultive KB/M support ....etc.
Pick one. its called lack for one. and there is alot of back story here if look for it on the website you might even have to click a few more times and go to the eve site but its around, and this is definatly not p2w what so ever there is no items that you pay for with aurum that is better then any thing that you get with isk the only diffrence is what skill level that you need to use. the comunity is really winey though i do have to admit its actualy quite funny I said pick one.. i din't say you have to pick all of them. One of those alone will be enough to push away a big percentage of players. im telling your wrong on a good number of them not agreeing with them
You just said that you agree with this one ;
- **** off community.
And why the community is so **** off ? .. re-read my OP. |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
373
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:05:00 -
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sxwr wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:sxwr wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Lag of content, repetitive game-play, SP gap, Pub-storming, Murder taxis, red-line snipers and tanks, Pay to be competitive, Unbalance weapons and matchmaking, CCP lag of interest in the game, **** off community, No clear road-map, Potential but not delivery, better games out, Official Beta Release, Slow progress, Poor new players experience, Lag of tutorials, No story or cinematographic's, No Role Play content, Insultive AUR market with obvious P2W content, Prototype gear, Trolling OP weapons, Poor aiming mechanics, insultive KB/M support ....etc.
Pick one. its called lack for one. and there is alot of back story here if look for it on the website you might even have to click a few more times and go to the eve site but its around, and this is definatly not p2w what so ever there is no items that you pay for with aurum that is better then any thing that you get with isk the only diffrence is what skill level that you need to use. the comunity is really winey though i do have to admit its actualy quite funny I said pick one.. i din't say you have to pick all of them. One of those alone will be enough to push away a big percentage of players. im telling your wrong on a good number of them not agreeing with them
The only thing he is wrong on is the p2w part. There are grey areas there as well. Fused locus grenades and the veteran and elite pack LAVs.
The rest is pretty spot on.
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1212
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:08:00 -
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I just love seeing AFKing in there like it's a positive.
It, too, is one of the things that annoys players (people who actually play) and would drive folks away. So is the rampant pub stomping that goes on.
Wow, looks like some the worst things about Dust includes a bunch of our vets.
Hahahahahaha. Sounds about right if you hang around the forums much.
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dday3six
Intrepidus XI EoN.
102
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:10:00 -
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Basically I look at it like this. With Dust you're banking on potential, but right now their are several distractions layered over that potential. Obstructions such as Harsh New Player Experience, Buggy Gameplay, Numerous Balance Issues, A Tedious Grind, Limited Gamemodes and Missing Content which all provide a very cloudy window to view the positive aspects of Dust through. On top of that the gameplay Dust offers currently is not much different then other lobby shooters. As the game continues to expand things could get better, but the cardinal question is, are players willing to continue support (spend money on) Dust until things improve. |
Malik loves Love
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:11:00 -
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Free game. CCP can't even give it away. |
sxwr
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
12
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:12:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:sxwr wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:sxwr wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Lag of content, repetitive game-play, SP gap, Pub-storming, Murder taxis, red-line snipers and tanks, Pay to be competitive, Unbalance weapons and matchmaking, CCP lag of interest in the game, **** off community, No clear road-map, Potential but not delivery, better games out, Official Beta Release, Slow progress, Poor new players experience, Lag of tutorials, No story or cinematographic's, No Role Play content, Insultive AUR market with obvious P2W content, Prototype gear, Trolling OP weapons, Poor aiming mechanics, insultive KB/M support ....etc.
Pick one. its called lack for one. and there is alot of back story here if look for it on the website you might even have to click a few more times and go to the eve site but its around, and this is definatly not p2w what so ever there is no items that you pay for with aurum that is better then any thing that you get with isk the only diffrence is what skill level that you need to use. the comunity is really winey though i do have to admit its actualy quite funny I said pick one.. i din't say you have to pick all of them. One of those alone will be enough to push away a big percentage of players. im telling your wrong on a good number of them not agreeing with them The only thing he is wrong on is the p2w part. There are grey areas there as well. Fused locus grenades and the veteran and elite pack LAVs. The rest is pretty spot on.
i have the vetrans pack lav and i can assure you that it pretty much sucks once the shield is gone and it dosnt take a lot (few grenades or two good swarms) and your dead and not to mention the fact that you get blaster sniped out of them all the time |
Finn Kempers
BetaMax. CRONOS.
251
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:12:00 -
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Unless it improves, PS2 on PS4 and BF4 and Killzone and Destiny will crush it into Dust. (pun intended) |
Sgt Buttscratch
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
485
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:13:00 -
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every time I try to connect to a game mode, its successful, NO Problem |
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Jed321
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:19:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:Numbers are at around 4.5 K
This will **** the PS2 fanboys off but Dust 514 numbers are pretty close to PS2's numbers. Dust 514 is still being born while PS2 is dieing off.
So planetside has been out for 10 months, most are bored with it. Also planetside still has pleanty of players to field hundreds of player battles. Just youtube search planetside 2 this week and see what is currently happening. Tons of Planetside 2 action on massive scales.
Numbers matter in dust because this is the first impression stage. Planetside 2 has made millions and won 19 game of the year awards. Waaaaay more players planetside to date than dust ever dreamed of. I dont see dust doing anything with 3500 player constant base. Not enough money you see. Also 11 game updates in 10 months=alot of new content for planetside.
Come at me bro, you are a failure supporting dust. PS4 PS2 will desolve dust. |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
283
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:19:00 -
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Do I really have to mention again that it's summer and numbers always drop during that time? |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
380
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:26:00 -
[33] - Quote
sxwr wrote:The Attorney General wrote:sxwr wrote:
im telling your wrong on a good number of them not agreeing with them
The only thing he is wrong on is the p2w part. There are grey areas there as well. Fused locus grenades and the veteran and elite pack LAVs. The rest is pretty spot on i have the vetrans pack lav and i can assure you that it pretty much sucks once the shield is gone and it dosnt take a lot (few grenades or two good swarms) and your dead and not to mention the fact that you get blaster sniped out of them all the time
Doesn't change the fact that it has double the shield regen of the ISK saga.
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steadyhand amarr
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
918
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:27:00 -
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its summer every game sees a massive a drop as people go holiday, and people in england, start praying to strange yellow thing in the sky, that only shows up for a like a week.
at the moment london is cooking in silly temps so i would past a few people not turning on the ps3s out of fear of overheating them.
so yeh summer always = player drop this is why you NEVER see a AAA game release during this time of year, unless the publisher is doing out of worry no one will pick up in the shooter session that starts sep-nov time. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
666
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:28:00 -
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About gamersR'adeh Hunt wrote:Do I really have to mention again that it's summer and numbers always drop during that time?
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The Attorney General
ZionTCD
386
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:31:00 -
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Over 71000 playing BF3 on PS3.
F summer, people just don't like dust. |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
286
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:33:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:its summer every game sees a massive a drop as people go holiday, and people in england, start praying to strange yellow thing in the sky, that only shows up for a like a week.
The weather's definitely messed up, not used to that much sun here in London. I almost used sunscreen today!! IN LONDON!!!
Girls are out in town wearing mini skirts and high heels without looking ridiculous for once |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
286
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:35:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Over 71000 playing BF3 on PS3.
F summer, people just don't like dust.
Of course it has a larger player base, it's a much larger franchise. Also, you're quoting this figure in isolation. Just a month ago BF3 had 10k more players...clearly it's dying, right? LINK |
Kiro Justice
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
409
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:42:00 -
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Community blows. End of Story. |
Orenji Jiji
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
204
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:46:00 -
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It's summer. Some people like to be outside, you know? You can't DUST514 outside, sun messes with your vision and rain messes with your hardware. I'll for one will not even be AFKing next month, going off the grid. I'm not the only one. It's called "a life". Sorry for the inconvenience.
But yeah, this is not the main reason.
Let's be honest: this game does not have a lot of variety. You can only get stomped by organized protobears so many times on so many maps before it's not fun anymore. I've been running completely BPO scout+smg fits for last few days, I'm so bored. Honestly I came to think that it's a good day in DUST514 when you don't get spawned on top of the hole in the MCC, but rather in the correct corner. So you can just press triangle and AFK in peace, instead of falling down and worrying about getting back up. I wear scout to just die in such case, so I could respawn quickly in the safe place of the MCC. This is how boring DUST514 is currently. Who would want to start from scratch in a game that offers only butt pain and uphill battle in every way to newbs? Not your average PS3 owner, it seems.
If Omega boosters hit the market again I will logon once every few weeks to see how much SP I've got. And maybe after each new build to see if anything changed for the better. Other than that forums are currently more fun than the game itself. At which I first LOL'd and then I teared a little.
I will only miss my battlefield friends. And ICD-9 'Toxin' SMG, because I love this little thing. |
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The Attorney General
ZionTCD
388
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:50:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Over 71000 playing BF3 on PS3.
F summer, people just don't like dust. Of course it has a larger player base, it's a much larger franchise. Also, you're quoting this figure in isolation. Just a month ago BF3 had 10k more players...clearly it's dying, right? LINKLastly, due to the way CCP develops games, it's normally not comparable to other games in that you see a massive initial push and then slowly dwindling numbers. Look at EVE for example. When I started out and it hit 10k players for the first time I thought OMFG, WOW! We're now at 40k+ and it's one of few (if not the only) games that show growth year after year. That's because CCP tends to continually improve the game while adding real stuff while other game studios release a polished game and then hardly add anything really new to it. WOW comes to mind...or Anarchy Online.
Go play in traffic fan boy.
You can justify it however you need. Bf has not seen an add on in six months and has 20x the player count.
Triple sp couldn't get above 6k.
Bf has more players because it is a better game. Why can't you just admit that?
Oh right, fan boy.
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TERMINALANCE
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
126
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:52:00 -
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Its good dust is losing support, CCP is going to have to take a good hard look at how they managed the project and hopefully a few heads will roll at CCP.
This game has been in Dev since 2005 If thats not proof of poor management i dont know what is. You could have paid a capable studio to produce this game and gotten a far superior product.
The engine switching and constant development hell that CCP has put this game through mirrors some of the worst games and failed projects in gaming history. Right up there with duck nukem forever.
We will only end up seeing what went wrong sadly when CCP sacks the whole project.
Just look at CCPs job board http://www.ccpgames.com/en/jobs
Look at all the critical positions that are available for China. I have been watching that board for quite some time, and there has been some significant turn around. I wish i had taken pics of the other jobs that where posted throughout this year.
The project is practically in free fall IMHO not that CCP would ever admit that.
I'm pretty sure BLAM! has moved on from CCP and that is why we have not heard from him.
It took CCP 8 years to get the game to this point. 8 years of Development on 2 different engines muddling about. Can you guess based on that where DUST is gonna be in another 8 if it took them this long to get to here? |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
289
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:52:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Over 71000 playing BF3 on PS3.
F summer, people just don't like dust. Of course it has a larger player base, it's a much larger franchise. Also, you're quoting this figure in isolation. Just a month ago BF3 had 10k more players...clearly it's dying, right? LINKLastly, due to the way CCP develops games, it's normally not comparable to other games in that you see a massive initial push and then slowly dwindling numbers. Look at EVE for example. When I started out and it hit 10k players for the first time I thought OMFG, WOW! We're now at 40k+ and it's one of few (if not the only) games that show growth year after year. That's because CCP tends to continually improve the game while adding real stuff while other game studios release a polished game and then hardly add anything really new to it. WOW comes to mind...or Anarchy Online. Go play in traffic fan boy. You can justify it however you need. Bf has not seen an add on in six months and has 20x the player count. Triple sp couldn't get above 6k. Bf has more players because it is a better game. Why can't you just admit that? Oh right, fan boy.
Again: BF is a MUCH larger franchise that has been around for MUCH longer...so obviously it will have a larger player base. But even BF saw its player number drop over the past month...BECAUSE IT'S SUMMER.
Stats I linked CLEARLY prove that.
Stating facts doesn't make me a fanboy |
Kiro Justice
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
410
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Posted - 2013.07.14 22:01:00 -
[44] - Quote
R'adeh Hunt wrote:The Attorney General wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:[quote=The Attorney General]Over 71000 playing BF3 on PS3.
F summer, people just don't like dust. Of course it has a larger player base, it's a much larger franchise. Also, you're quoting this figure in isolation. Just a month ago BF3 had 10k more players...clearly it's dying, right? LINKLastly, due to the way CCP develops games, it's normally not comparable to other games in that you see a massive initial push and then slowly dwindling numbers. Look at EVE for example. When I started out and it hit 10k players for the first time I thought OMFG, WOW! We're now at 40k+ and it's one of few (if not the only) games that show growth year after year. That's because CCP tends to continually improve the game while adding real stuff while other game studios release a polished game and then hardly add anything really new to it. WOW comes to mind...or Anarchy Online. Go play in traffic fan boy. You can justify it however you need. Bf has not seen an add on in six months and has 20x the player count. Triple sp couldn't get above 6k. Bf has more players because it is a better game. Why can't you just admit that? Oh right, fan boy.
Damn...He seems a little mad lol
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Sammy677
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2013.07.14 22:04:00 -
[45] - Quote
TERMINALANCE wrote:Its good dust is losing support, CCP is going to have to take a good hard look at how they managed the project and hopefully a few heads will roll at CCP. This game has been in Dev since 2005 If thats not proof of poor management i dont know what is. You could have paid a capable studio to produce this game and gotten a far superior product. The engine switching and constant development hell that CCP has put this game through mirrors some of the worst games and failed projects in gaming history. Right up there with duck nukem forever. We will only end up seeing what went wrong sadly when CCP sacks the whole project. Just look at CCPs job board http://www.ccpgames.com/en/jobsLook at all the critical positions that are available for China. I have been watching that board for quite some time, and there has been some significant turn around. I wish i had taken pics of the other jobs that where posted throughout this year. The project is practically in free fall IMHO not that CCP would ever admit that. I'm pretty sure BLAM! has moved on from CCP and that is why we have not heard from him. It took CCP 8 years to get the game to this point. 8 years of Development on 2 different engines muddling about. Can you guess based on that where DUST is gonna be in another 8 if it took them this long to get to here?
Nice and +2 on alts Truth hurts. |
Blanket jr
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2013.07.14 22:08:00 -
[46] - Quote
Less than 5000 is actually the lowest I have ever heard of honestly. MAG before being shut off had 2-4 k at all times, but they paid $ for the game. |
LRMXxX
What The French CRONOS.
20
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Posted - 2013.07.14 22:10:00 -
[47] - Quote
The next months will be decisive (and 1.3 patch note will be a good start) but I have to say I quite like the way they are handling the post-uprising fail: they are focusing on critical issues (except le f****ing LAV)
Keep in mind we will always see some delay in a console mmo (balancewise i mean). |
KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
117
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Posted - 2013.07.14 22:13:00 -
[48] - Quote
EdyCole wrote:I'm starting to get worried, we have not peaked 5k in nearly a week and this is an event weekend. With 80mill ps3's why so few players? I remember when we had 10k, and heard fanbois say "when release hits we should have closer to 100k". What the hell happened? Where are all the fps players at? This is free 2 play right? Are people insulted by the constant Buy this and purchase aurum marketing strategies? Do people feel left behind after CCP chose to NOT reset beta players upon Commercial release? Or is it the actual gameplay and community that is turning new players away? Someone clue me in, WHERE IS EVERYONE AT!!! Here are the sad declining numbers....... Eve Server Numbers
May 14th was the end of Dust every single review was horrible execpt the playstion one. The player reviews was horrible. Game launched with little to no content from the beta.
The game is a grind no respec option, same boring maps. No massive battles just 16 vs 16. Core gaming mechanics are broken. Icould go on and on.
Only the beta vets and Eve player will keep this game going. The game design is very flawed the concept is horrible no persistence just a lobby shooter, with no connection to Eve.
The numbers will continue to shrink Dust is just a bad FPS that happens to be free. With the PS4 and games like GTA V Dust will have around 2,500 hardcore players.
I also expect the Mag community to leave Dust pretty soon. The demo from 2009 is not the game we currently have. We can't even mod our weapons lol. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1245
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Posted - 2013.07.14 22:16:00 -
[49] - Quote
TERMINALANCE wrote:Its good dust is losing support, CCP is going to have to take a good hard look at how they managed the project and hopefully a few heads will roll at CCP. This game has been in Dev since 2005 If thats not proof of poor management i dont know what is. You could have paid a capable studio to produce this game and gotten a far superior product. The engine switching and constant development hell that CCP has put this game through mirrors some of the worst games and failed projects in gaming history. Right up there with duck nukem forever. We will only end up seeing what went wrong sadly when CCP sacks the whole project. Just look at CCPs job board http://www.ccpgames.com/en/jobsLook at all the critical positions that are available for China. I have been watching that board for quite some time, and there has been some significant turn around. I wish i had taken pics of the other jobs that where posted throughout this year. The project is practically in free fall IMHO not that CCP would ever admit that. I'm pretty sure BLAM! has moved on from CCP and that is why we have not heard from him. It took CCP 8 years to get the game to this point. 8 years of Development on 2 different engines muddling about. Can you guess based on that where DUST is gonna be in another 8 if it took them this long to get to here?
This ^ is why the community is so **** off ...I been around only from the beginning of the open Beta.. about 7-8 months ? and i feel like i been trolled by CCP to hell and back... god knows how Closed Beta people feels..
The game is very much the same as when i first joined, just a bit worst in every possible way. |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
390
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Posted - 2013.07.14 22:45:00 -
[50] - Quote
Banning Hammer wrote:TERMINALANCE wrote:Its good dust is losing support, CCP is going to have to take a good hard look at how they managed the project and hopefully a few heads will roll at CCP. This game has been in Dev since 2005 If thats not proof of poor management i dont know what is. You could have paid a capable studio to produce this game and gotten a far superior product. The engine switching and constant development hell that CCP has put this game through mirrors some of the worst games and failed projects in gaming history. Right up there with duck nukem forever. We will only end up seeing what went wrong sadly when CCP sacks the whole project. Just look at CCPs job board http://www.ccpgames.com/en/jobsLook at all the critical positions that are available for China. I have been watching that board for quite some time, and there has been some significant turn around. I wish i had taken pics of the other jobs that where posted throughout this year. The project is practically in free fall IMHO not that CCP would ever admit that. I'm pretty sure BLAM! has moved on from CCP and that is why we have not heard from him. It took CCP 8 years to get the game to this point. 8 years of Development on 2 different engines muddling about. Can you guess based on that where DUST is gonna be in another 8 if it took them this long to get to here? This ^ is why the community is so **** off ...I been around only from the beginning of the open Beta.. about 7-8 months ? and i feel like i have been trolled by CCP to hell and back... god knows how Closed Beta people feels.. The game is very much the same as when i first joined, just a bit worst in every possible way.
This guy gets it. |
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The legend345
TeamPlayers EoN.
755
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Posted - 2013.07.14 22:54:00 -
[51] - Quote
Does it matter? The games still in beta. Sony hasn't made any real attempts to advertise the game. Not to mention we are playing a ps4 game. |
Allah's Snackbar
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
363
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Posted - 2013.07.14 22:58:00 -
[52] - Quote
TERMINALANCE wrote:Its good dust is losing support, CCP is going to have to take a good hard look at how they managed the project and hopefully a few heads will roll at CCP. This game has been in Dev since 2005 If thats not proof of poor management i dont know what is. You could have paid a capable studio to produce this game and gotten a far superior product. The engine switching and constant development hell that CCP has put this game through mirrors some of the worst games and failed projects in gaming history. Right up there with duck nukem forever. We will only end up seeing what went wrong sadly when CCP sacks the whole project. Just look at CCPs job board http://www.ccpgames.com/en/jobsLook at all the critical positions that are available for China. I have been watching that board for quite some time, and there has been some significant turn around. I wish i had taken pics of the other jobs that where posted throughout this year. The project is practically in free fall IMHO not that CCP would ever admit that. I'm pretty sure BLAM! has moved on from CCP and that is why we have not heard from him. It took CCP 8 years to get the game to this point. 8 years of Development on 2 different engines muddling about. Can you guess based on that where DUST is gonna be in another 8 if it took them this long to get to here? Strategic blunders: - Choosing the wrong engine - Developing in a completely out of whack TZ to HQ - Over hyping the Dust / EVE link - Hawking packs worth one or two times the cost of AAA titles - Releasing from beta with a product not seen in beta - Systemic player support failings |
sxwr
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
14
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Posted - 2013.07.14 23:06:00 -
[53] - Quote
The Attorney General wrote:sxwr wrote:The Attorney General wrote:sxwr wrote:
im telling your wrong on a good number of them not agreeing with them
The only thing he is wrong on is the p2w part. There are grey areas there as well. Fused locus grenades and the veteran and elite pack LAVs. The rest is pretty spot on i have the vetrans pack lav and i can assure you that it pretty much sucks once the shield is gone and it dosnt take a lot (few grenades or two good swarms) and your dead and not to mention the fact that you get blaster sniped out of them all the time Doesn't change the fact that it has double the shield regen of the ISK saga.
okay but if its really going to get destroyed the shield regen dosnt meen **** |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1505
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Posted - 2013.07.14 23:23:00 -
[54] - Quote
R'adeh Hunt wrote:It's summertime....totally normal, same things happens with EVE too every single summer.
Here in London people get confused when the sun shines, but at the moment even us rain people have sunshine outside. Only normal to spend more time outside.
um but i the summer eve would drop to 20,000 people online at once, and it's not even free to play, and everyone says it's terrible, what does that make dust? |
KalOfTheRathi
Talon Strike Force LTD Covert Intervention
532
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Posted - 2013.07.14 23:31:00 -
[55] - Quote
Numbers don't matter nearly as much for a F2P like many other games.
They have made, from what I hear, $20M on the game thus far. As long as AUR is bought in sufficient amounts the game will be around. Plus, I doubt if CCP is horribly burdened by DUST financially. They have the long view, just look at the slow change rate for Ganker's Paradise (EVE). DUST is changing at a much faster rate.
New players will download the game, some percentage will buy AUR, many will buy Packs from the PlayStation Store. Those AUR items are good enough to keep many paying for them.
An evening burning down AUR items is cheaper than a night at the bar. And while DUST is often boring, your friends aren't. |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
393
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Posted - 2013.07.15 00:02:00 -
[56] - Quote
sxwr wrote:
okay but if its really going to get destroyed the shield regen dosnt meen ****
Did you eat lead paint chips as a kid?
Any good that is superiour to what you can buy with in game currency is called a supremacy good.
Supremacy goods are p2w.
Since the shield regen is better on the pack Sagas, they are supremacy goods, and therefore p2w.
You can try and explain it away, but that is a cold hard fact.
Hell, they have better shield regen than the HAV's ffs.
Your argument was bad, and it has been clearly shown to be incorrect. Either admit you were wrong or shut up if you don't want to look like a 'tard.
Now go hop in your p2w buggy and try not to be more of a scrub than you are. |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
393
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Posted - 2013.07.15 00:05:00 -
[57] - Quote
KalOfTheRathi wrote:Numbers don't matter nearly as much for a F2P like many other games.
They have made, from what I hear, $20M on the game thus far. As long as AUR is bought in sufficient amounts the game will be around. Plus, I doubt if CCP is horribly burdened by DUST financially. They have the long view, just look at the slow change rate for Ganker's Paradise (EVE). DUST is changing at a much faster rate.
New players will download the game, some percentage will buy AUR, many will buy Packs from the PlayStation Store. Those AUR items are good enough to keep many paying for them.
An evening burning down AUR items is cheaper than a night at the bar. And while DUST is often boring, your friends aren't.
I would love to see the source for them making 20m off of this. I find that number to be highly unlikely, and I doubt you have a better source than "some guy told me".
Dust is changing at a faster rate because they got savaged on the reviews and if they don't do something quick, a lot of the people who have spent a boatload on this will finally wake up and either stop buying, or just stop playing.
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