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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:02:00 -
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I help keep those numbers up by AFKing on my alts.
There are more people playing BF3 then Dust.
Given all the problems BF3 has, that says a lot.
GTA 5 will drop them lower, then PS4 will put them in the basement.
If it wasnt for the core of fools who have spent obscene amounts of money on Dust, it would have already been binned. |
The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:05:00 -
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sxwr wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:sxwr wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Lag of content, repetitive game-play, SP gap, Pub-storming, Murder taxis, red-line snipers and tanks, Pay to be competitive, Unbalance weapons and matchmaking, CCP lag of interest in the game, **** off community, No clear road-map, Potential but not delivery, better games out, Official Beta Release, Slow progress, Poor new players experience, Lag of tutorials, No story or cinematographic's, No Role Play content, Insultive AUR market with obvious P2W content, Prototype gear, Trolling OP weapons, Poor aiming mechanics, insultive KB/M support ....etc.
Pick one. its called lack for one. and there is alot of back story here if look for it on the website you might even have to click a few more times and go to the eve site but its around, and this is definatly not p2w what so ever there is no items that you pay for with aurum that is better then any thing that you get with isk the only diffrence is what skill level that you need to use. the comunity is really winey though i do have to admit its actualy quite funny I said pick one.. i din't say you have to pick all of them. One of those alone will be enough to push away a big percentage of players. im telling your wrong on a good number of them not agreeing with them
The only thing he is wrong on is the p2w part. There are grey areas there as well. Fused locus grenades and the veteran and elite pack LAVs.
The rest is pretty spot on.
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:26:00 -
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sxwr wrote:The Attorney General wrote:sxwr wrote:
im telling your wrong on a good number of them not agreeing with them
The only thing he is wrong on is the p2w part. There are grey areas there as well. Fused locus grenades and the veteran and elite pack LAVs. The rest is pretty spot on i have the vetrans pack lav and i can assure you that it pretty much sucks once the shield is gone and it dosnt take a lot (few grenades or two good swarms) and your dead and not to mention the fact that you get blaster sniped out of them all the time
Doesn't change the fact that it has double the shield regen of the ISK saga.
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:31:00 -
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Over 71000 playing BF3 on PS3.
F summer, people just don't like dust. |
The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:50:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Over 71000 playing BF3 on PS3.
F summer, people just don't like dust. Of course it has a larger player base, it's a much larger franchise. Also, you're quoting this figure in isolation. Just a month ago BF3 had 10k more players...clearly it's dying, right? LINKLastly, due to the way CCP develops games, it's normally not comparable to other games in that you see a massive initial push and then slowly dwindling numbers. Look at EVE for example. When I started out and it hit 10k players for the first time I thought OMFG, WOW! We're now at 40k+ and it's one of few (if not the only) games that show growth year after year. That's because CCP tends to continually improve the game while adding real stuff while other game studios release a polished game and then hardly add anything really new to it. WOW comes to mind...or Anarchy Online.
Go play in traffic fan boy.
You can justify it however you need. Bf has not seen an add on in six months and has 20x the player count.
Triple sp couldn't get above 6k.
Bf has more players because it is a better game. Why can't you just admit that?
Oh right, fan boy.
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.07.14 22:45:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:TERMINALANCE wrote:Its good dust is losing support, CCP is going to have to take a good hard look at how they managed the project and hopefully a few heads will roll at CCP. This game has been in Dev since 2005 If thats not proof of poor management i dont know what is. You could have paid a capable studio to produce this game and gotten a far superior product. The engine switching and constant development hell that CCP has put this game through mirrors some of the worst games and failed projects in gaming history. Right up there with duck nukem forever. We will only end up seeing what went wrong sadly when CCP sacks the whole project. Just look at CCPs job board http://www.ccpgames.com/en/jobsLook at all the critical positions that are available for China. I have been watching that board for quite some time, and there has been some significant turn around. I wish i had taken pics of the other jobs that where posted throughout this year. The project is practically in free fall IMHO not that CCP would ever admit that. I'm pretty sure BLAM! has moved on from CCP and that is why we have not heard from him. It took CCP 8 years to get the game to this point. 8 years of Development on 2 different engines muddling about. Can you guess based on that where DUST is gonna be in another 8 if it took them this long to get to here? This ^ is why the community is so **** off ...I been around only from the beginning of the open Beta.. about 7-8 months ? and i feel like i have been trolled by CCP to hell and back... god knows how Closed Beta people feels.. The game is very much the same as when i first joined, just a bit worst in every possible way.
This guy gets it. |
The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.07.15 00:02:00 -
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sxwr wrote:
okay but if its really going to get destroyed the shield regen dosnt meen ****
Did you eat lead paint chips as a kid?
Any good that is superiour to what you can buy with in game currency is called a supremacy good.
Supremacy goods are p2w.
Since the shield regen is better on the pack Sagas, they are supremacy goods, and therefore p2w.
You can try and explain it away, but that is a cold hard fact.
Hell, they have better shield regen than the HAV's ffs.
Your argument was bad, and it has been clearly shown to be incorrect. Either admit you were wrong or shut up if you don't want to look like a 'tard.
Now go hop in your p2w buggy and try not to be more of a scrub than you are. |
The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.07.15 00:05:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:Numbers don't matter nearly as much for a F2P like many other games.
They have made, from what I hear, $20M on the game thus far. As long as AUR is bought in sufficient amounts the game will be around. Plus, I doubt if CCP is horribly burdened by DUST financially. They have the long view, just look at the slow change rate for Ganker's Paradise (EVE). DUST is changing at a much faster rate.
New players will download the game, some percentage will buy AUR, many will buy Packs from the PlayStation Store. Those AUR items are good enough to keep many paying for them.
An evening burning down AUR items is cheaper than a night at the bar. And while DUST is often boring, your friends aren't.
I would love to see the source for them making 20m off of this. I find that number to be highly unlikely, and I doubt you have a better source than "some guy told me".
Dust is changing at a faster rate because they got savaged on the reviews and if they don't do something quick, a lot of the people who have spent a boatload on this will finally wake up and either stop buying, or just stop playing.
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