I play COD often, its mainly a stress reliever for me now.... its a beginners FPS that have never heard of BF, Halo or mass effect, COD is like the basics for FPS.

Both are arcade shooters with very little strategy involved.

It just seems like everybody's running around like idiots with no real teamwork and no coordinated communication (at least, text-based communication due to my deafness.) Also no real objectives other than capture the flag and bomb planting.

But Dust is truly a thinking man's shooter game and that's what I love about Dust 514.

What? I'm sorry, but I must disagree. Dust 514 has a lot more deep strategy than COD do. Some people have told me it took some of them 20 minutes to a few days to learn how to play Dust. Even after 6 months, there's still a lot more for me to study about the game and some of the skills and equipments are still difficult to figure out, which is why I and most people come to the forum to discuss about it. You don't do that on COD. A perk gives a very brief instruction in a sentence of how it works. Piece of cake. Not so on Dust 514 and it encourages people to get together to have many profound discussions.

What? I'm sorry, but I must disagree. Dust 514 has a lot more deep strategy than COD do. Some people have told me it took some of them 20 minutes to a few days to learn how to play Dust. Even after 6 months, there's still a lot more for me to study about the game and some of the skills and equipments are still difficult to figure out, which is why I and most people come to the forum to discuss about it. You don't do that on COD. A perk gives a very brief instruction in a sentence of how it works. Piece of cake. Not so on Dust 514 and it encourages people to get together to have many profound discussions.

...and wow, I couldn't stay on it for more than 10 minutes. It literally is for children, which is more like an introduction to FPS games. But I can see why it appeals to casual players as well. Don't get me wrong, it can still be fun. Well, it's ok, I guess. The graphics are polished and smooth, which Dust 514 needs badly after the CARBON engine meltdown. But that's the only thing good about COD in my opinion. It just seems like everybody's running around like idiots with no real teamwork and no coordinated communication (at least, text-based communication due to my deafness.) Also no real objectives other than capture the flag and bomb planting. I'm sure if I get used to COD again, I wouldn't think about it. God forbid if Destiny and other FPS games start cloning COD, much like several of the MMORPGs following in after World of Warcraft. But Dust is truly a thinking man's shooter game and that's what I love about Dust 514. So I'm happy I'm staying with Dust 514. What about you guys?

First off...if borderlands 3 has 16 vs 16 im gone. As far as titan fall goes have fun while bill gates watches you play over dinner.

What dust sacrifices in graphics it kills if not murders in huge maps, tons of elevation changes and well designed fighting areas. Learning what each skill means is terribly left unstated. I played killzone 3 and it was all incredibly small maps with mostly just hallways.

Has anyone used the balac assualt rifle yet. Pretty awesome right?

I play COD often, its mainly a stress reliever for me now.... its a beginners FPS that have never heard of BF, Halo or mass effect, COD is like the basics for FPS.

...and wow, I couldn't stay on it for more than 10 minutes. It literally is for children, which is more like an introduction to FPS games. But I can see why it appeals to casual players as well. Don't get me wrong, it can still be fun. Well, it's ok, I guess. The graphics are polished and smooth, which Dust 514 needs badly after the CARBON engine meltdown. But that's the only thing good about COD in my opinion. It just seems like everybody's running around like idiots with no real teamwork and no coordinated communication (at least, text-based communication due to my deafness.) Also no real objectives other than capture the flag and bomb planting. I'm sure if I get used to COD again, I wouldn't think about it. God forbid if Destiny and other FPS games start cloning COD, much like several of the MMORPGs following in after World of Warcraft. But Dust is truly a thinking man's shooter game and that's what I love about Dust 514. So I'm happy I'm staying with Dust 514. What about you guys?

Bill Gates' no longer the chairman? Or is he

I've also recently spent some time with CoD, and IMO it's no less tactical than Dust 514 but IS much more polished. Sure, you can spend your time overanalyzing the simplistic gameplay of Dust 514 to your heart's content, but there isn't anything inherently more tactical about the gameplay.

Both are arcade shooters with very little strategy involved.

I don't agree with that assessment of the game, except for the its not polished part. :)

I'm not exactly sure what the actual definition of arcade shooter is, but with what I personally interpret that phrase to mean: I don't think Dust 514 is an arcade shooter.

I think they're about as similar to each other as Regular (American) Football and Arena Football. They're both Football (Shooters), but they're clearly very different games. Regular Football (Dust) is a lower scoring ground war game that requires depth of talent, and a diversity of highly specialized roles to make up a great team. Arena Football (COD) is a high scoring close quarters game that requires a depth of talent, in a one specialized role in order to make a great team.

In COD you need 16 guys that are all really great at working together, shooting guns, creating chaos individually, and doing everything faster than the opponent.

In Dust514 you need 16 guys that are all really great at working together, specializing in skills completely different from one another, limiting chaos as a collective, and adapting to and exploiting the skillset of their opponents.

I think both games have ample opportunity for strategy, but to say they're similar is missing the forest for the trees.

...and wow, I couldn't stay on it for more than 10 minutes. It literally is for children, which is more like an introduction to FPS games. But I can see why it appeals to casual players as well. Don't get me wrong, it can still be fun. Well, it's ok, I guess. The graphics are polished and smooth, which Dust 514 needs badly after the CARBON engine meltdown. But that's the only thing good about COD in my opinion. It just seems like everybody's running around like idiots with no real teamwork and no coordinated communication (at least, text-based communication due to my deafness.) Also no real objectives other than capture the flag and bomb planting. I'm sure if I get used to COD again, I wouldn't think about it. God forbid if Destiny and other FPS games start cloning COD, much like several of the MMORPGs following in after World of Warcraft. But Dust is truly a thinking man's shooter game and that's what I love about Dust 514. So I'm happy I'm staying with Dust 514. What about you guys?

I`m a run and gun kind of guy so maybe COD is a game for me there's a few things more to COD that DUST514 falls at. for me I love my Ceadron SGs and DS and will be here for a while.

Probably gonna try all of them, except killzone and CoD. Never played a borderland-ish game but I imagine Destiny might satisfy my curiousity. TitanFall because my early days of console gaming involved MechWarrior/MechAssault and growing up, I grew fond of killer robots. Not that into console gaming anymore, if I see a good PC game come out, I'll be gone for awhile.

Not to mention a plethora of non-shooter related games I look forward to.

COD blackops II is a better game than DUST514.