DUST is an inherently teamwork focused game.

There is no "I" in team. Whoever gets the kill should not matter, a point for your team is a point for your team.

How do you determine who deals majority damage when you account for regeneration?

Why should it even matter? If you can't finish the job you don't get the kill.

If I deal 90% of someone's health but I don't kill them, why should i be awarded with a kill? I didn't kill them, someone else did and I assisted, so I get an assist.

Seriously, we have much deeper problems in this game than who gets kill credit. If its enough that you want to quit the game, then you should probably go ahead and just do so.

3. Add gear restrictions to instant battles. I'm sick of being stomped by squads of prototype gear.
This is sort of how the instant battle screen should look:

Instant Battle - Ambush - Militia & Standard
Instant Battle - Ambush - Standard & Advanced
Instant Battle - Ambush - Advanced & Prototype
Instant Battle - Ambush - Prototype Only

And the list goes on with Skirmish and Domination.

I'm about ready to just quit because of these problems. They're big enough to make me go that far. The rest of the problems I've noticed are on my other forum post.

Exio out.

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Hey, did you need that?
"Need what?"
*headshot* Your life.

I'm serious. I'm borderline tired of all this. This has more requests than feedback, so if you don't feel like hearing rambling, you might as well leave now. If you haven't seen my other post of feedback and requests, please check it out. *title: Personal Thoughts With Intent to Not Be Trolled*

1. THE F****NG KILL ASSIST SYSTEM. OH MY F****NG GOD. If I take 100% of shield and 99% of the persons' armour, then someone runs in and pokes him with his pinkie, HE SHOULD NOT GET THE GODDAMN KILL. Do you realize how many kills I've had stolen because of this abso-f***in'-lutely ridiculous system?! FIX IT NOW!
A: Make it where the person who deals the most damage to the enemy get the kill; everyone else who deals damage gets the assist.

2. Fix the problem where sniper rifles stop firing. No, I'm not missing. They're not moving and my crosshair is right on their head. This also happens with installations.

3. Add gear restrictions to instant battles. I'm sick of being stomped by squads of prototype gear.
This is sort of how the instant battle screen should look:

Instant Battle - Ambush - Militia & Standard
Instant Battle - Ambush - Standard & Advanced
Instant Battle - Ambush - Advanced & Prototype
Instant Battle - Ambush - Prototype Only

And the list goes on with Skirmish and Domination.

I'm about ready to just quit because of these problems. They're big enough to make me go that far. The rest of the problems I've noticed are on my other forum post.

Exio out.

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Hey, did you need that?
"Need what?"
*headshot* Your life.

I agree with the first point. I like how BF3 did it. You get more points the more damage you did.

The third point is stupid. Learn to play. The matchmaking they are planning is more than enough. Hint: They don't stomp you because of their gear, but because they have more experience and don't just run at you guns blazing.

Kills and assists: just fine.
Matchmaking: Needs work (your idea would hurt the game but at least you're thinking)

Seriously.

I'm kind of disappointed that you actually expect people to support you on something that stupid.

The bug is one that's already been talked about, and they've already mentioned that they're redoing the matchmaking system.

OP needs more time in dust academy before coming back into the fray...just saying.

I'm serious. I'm borderline tired of all this. This has more requests than feedback, so if you don't feel like hearing rambling, you might as well leave now. If you haven't seen my other post of feedback and requests, please check it out. *title: Personal Thoughts With Intent to Not Be Trolled*

1. THE F****NG KILL ASSIST SYSTEM. OH MY F****NG GOD. If I take 100% of shield and 99% of the persons' armour, then someone runs in and pokes him with his pinkie, HE SHOULD NOT GET THE GODDAMN KILL. Do you realize how many kills I've had stolen because of this abso-f***in'-lutely ridiculous system?! FIX IT NOW!
A: Make it where the person who deals the most damage to the enemy get the kill; everyone else who deals damage gets the assist.

2. Fix the problem where sniper rifles stop firing. No, I'm not missing. They're not moving and my crosshair is right on their head. This also happens with installations.

3. Add gear restrictions to instant battles. I'm sick of being stomped by squads of prototype gear.
This is sort of how the instant battle screen should look:

Instant Battle - Ambush - Militia & Standard
Instant Battle - Ambush - Standard & Advanced
Instant Battle - Ambush - Advanced & Prototype
Instant Battle - Ambush - Prototype Only

And the list goes on with Skirmish and Domination.

I'm about ready to just quit because of these problems. They're big enough to make me go that far. The rest of the problems I've noticed are on my other forum post.

Exio out.

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Hey, did you need that?
"Need what?"
*headshot* Your life.

All of these ideas are bad. -1

1.That person fired the last bullet therefore he should get the last bullet kill and +50 points. Assists should be based off of damage done, but never should an assister get the kill points. What FPS even does this?

2. Never heard or seen it.

3 Gear based matchmaking is and never will be functional. For many reasons.

True. Who's to say I didn't enter a match in a Raven, then switch half way through to a proto?

You could however do it by WP with players though, spread it out so both sides are even in total accrued WP to date, as that would be an indicator of skill level. Even then, what if squads enter in to the picture and can't be broken up?

I do agree that Proto's need limits. If their access could be restricted to PC matches, it would probably help with new people getting discouraged.

Overall, I used to get pissed off by Proto people, but I realized that one day I'll get there too, I run BPO so I'm not really losing anything, and I'm earning SP and ISK regardless. So I use the opportunity to learn from the more advanced players, and maybe, if I get lucky, run one of them over in an LAV.

I'm serious. I'm borderline tired of all this. This has more requests than feedback, so if you don't feel like hearing rambling, you might as well leave now. If you haven't seen my other post of feedback and requests, please check it out. *title: Personal Thoughts With Intent to Not Be Trolled*

1. THE F****NG KILL ASSIST SYSTEM. OH MY F****NG GOD. If I take 100% of shield and 99% of the persons' armour, then someone runs in and pokes him with his pinkie, HE SHOULD NOT GET THE GODDAMN KILL. Do you realize how many kills I've had stolen because of this abso-f***in'-lutely ridiculous system?! FIX IT NOW!
A: Make it where the person who deals the most damage to the enemy get the kill; everyone else who deals damage gets the assist.

True. Who's to say I didn't enter a match in a Raven, then switch half way through to a proto?

You could however do it by WP with players though, spread it out so both sides are even in total accrued WP to date, as that would be an indicator of skill level. Even then, what if squads enter in to the picture and can't be broken up?

I do agree that Proto's need limits. If their access could be restricted to PC matches, it would probably help with new people getting discouraged.

Overall, I used to get pissed off by Proto people, but I realized that one day I'll get there too, I run BPO so I'm not really losing anything, and I'm earning SP and ISK regardless. So I use the opportunity to learn from the more advanced players, and maybe, if I get lucky, run one of them over in an LAV.

this isn't that big a deal. rogramming is hard stuff, and can get tedious, making mistakes can lead to glitches and errors. but a simple formular based on dividing a set value of WPs by the damage dealt could solve your problem.

there are plenty of constants. we know that you get 50 WPs for every kill (by team objective is 60), we also know the game keeps track of the damage you deal in approximately real time. so, once the down/death is registered, the game simply has to convert the amount of damage you did to the enemies current health limit* into a percentage and multiply to distribute the WPs evenly by damage dealt.

so, K * (Pd/Ch) = Wd ; where K is the constant (for infantry kill thats 50pts), Ch is current health of the target, Pd is player damage or your damage dealt, and Wd is war points distributed.
Wd cannot be > K.

so if your do 200 ehp worth of damage to an opponent with 201 ehp, you will get the following:
50 * (200/201) = 49.75 WP

basically you received 99.50% of the WPs for that kill.

inversely, if you do perhaps 30ehp damage to an enemy with 700 ehp

50 * (30/700) = you get 2 WPs for the kill.

now what happens if lets say you do 9999 damage to a target that has 500 ehp (you hit him with an LAV)? using derrivatives you can make a limit but its better just to use the WD =< K equation. why?

50 * (9999/500) = 1000 wps for 1 kill....lol. so with the limit set. yoou can't get more than 50 pts.



*current health, is the shield and Armor the enemy had before depletion/recharge. so if you stripe a scouts shields 5 times, you have done lets say 400 ehp worth pf damage to a scout with 70 shields and 90 armor. so to prevent this, from currpting calculations, on the current health of the last recharge counts.

I can see reasoning behind this.

I think the main the problem getting so many assists is down to the TTK unless you are all headshots all the time then to put down some protos with shield tanking\regen it can take more bullets than you have in your main and sidearm to put somebody down particularly with the dodgy hit detection. This can lead to multiple reload engagements and after what can seem an eternity dancing around as bluedot can stroll over and get one lucky bullet and get the kill and the WP.

Some games I've gone 4 kills and 30+ assists because of this and I'm confident Ive done the most damage (90%+) in at least 20 of those assists. I'm not particularly worried and getting credit for the kill but what I would prefer is a better distribution of the points given, the person who dealt the most damage should be awarded the the most WP regardless of who put in the final bullet

Of all the things to have a whine about....

this has to be one of the most ********.

E-peen denial is an awful thing.... lol

The OP does have a point in what he is saying, especially since the devs did that BS with academy, wtf were they thinking, were they smoking something really hard? Anyways, lets be honest with ourselves, someone who has 6million sp, against someone who has 12million sp, the obvious advantage is going to the person with 12million sp, even if they are running in just milita or the freebie gear, now you might ask yourself why is this, why would someone running militia gear be stronger then someone running advanced or standard gear who is of lower sp. The answer is very simple, if you know how to upgrade your suit for max effect, that once pissant militia AR now can have over +9% dmg bonus without even a single item being allocated towards bonus dmg, along with roughly 15-20% extra armor and shields without having to do anything yet again.

So it is not the suits that are just the problem at times, it is the skill tree and how the sp is put upon it, now someone with 9 mill compared to the 6mill is not going to have that much of an advantage in anything to the degree that the 12mill will have over the 6mil. Now if the 12mil people start using proto gear, the 6mil and under people are usually just plainly screwed as the proto people will be hitting a hell of a lot harder, be able to take more damage and typically be able to move around faster. (depending on what mods they are using) This can be shown with how powerful logi's of high lvl compared to those of low lvl, including the fact that many of them considered themselves front line offense for a long time.

For the sniper rifle problem, I believe this is usually caused by lag within the game, if a game is being to laggy it is often best just to turn off the game and do something else for a while, otherwise you will end up just raging at the game. I am hoping that either patch 1.4 or 1.5 will fix a lot of these issues, however, I have not gotten any information about when they are to be released or what is really in them.

For the Kill and assist kill, this has vexed me from time to time as well, where I have nearly killed someone by myself to have someone get in a lucky bullet or for the one I am trying to kill to commit suicide. I do feel that the person who gets in the last bullet should get the "kill" however points should go according to who did the most damage and that the "killing" shot should just be bonus points ontop of who did the most damage. Now I know this annoys people for other reasons as well, such as about the KD ratio for after the match and overall stats, simply put they need to add in other stats that show how useful a player was being for each one of these as has been stated by a logi group more then a few times.

In short, the game needs a lot of improvement on different things but it could be much more fun quite soon, take a month off and chill off while the game catches up in the technical aspects that way you're not raging constantly.