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Dr Allopathy
Raging Pack of Homos
163
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Posted - 2013.07.10 20:00:00 -
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Another Heavy SOB wrote:And who the **** are you to delegate what us heavies roles are. I'm getting damn sick and tired of this bullshit, somehow it's OK for every class to try to fill whatever role they'd like regardless of design intent. I don't give a **** if CCP intended heavies for point defense, I can play it however the **** I'd like. Hell I thought that's part of what this game was about! The freedom to chose my role and how I go about it.
Finally you're a bold faced liar if you claim you've been run down by a LAV. I don't believe that for one second you've never been smashed from behind while ADS engaging a group of reds.
Dr Allopathy wrote:I rarely die by LAV drivers.
Calm down big boy. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3235
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Posted - 2013.07.10 20:31:00 -
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Look both ways before crossing the street. |
Blackcell SAH
Raymond James Corp
2
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Posted - 2013.07.10 20:48:00 -
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Dr Allopathy wrote:I rarely die by LAV drivers. It's too easy to sidestep, and predict where they're driving. You have the upper hand because you have the ability to change direction last minute; they, however, can't turn on a dime so quickly.
As I stated in the title, the majority of LAV deaths are from people who already suck at maneuvering. Not only do you guys consistently get run over, but you also move straight toward your targets, stand still while shooting, etc etc.
Please, just for the sake of ending the whining, learn how to strafe/maneuver properly.
I do support a LAV nerf (make them cost isk like the other militia equipment), but I don't think the uproar is so deserved. At first the LAVs were annoying, but I and others learned how to adapt and are now acrobatic gymnasts who hop across the field.
HTFU
When was the last time you played? After 1.2 I have been hit because they miss me and immediately reverse and back over me. I have also danced in the open field with LAVs trying to make my way back to an elevated surface. It typically ends in either: 1) I get shot by another ground fighter 2) They CAN turn on a dime and I run out of stamina.
Here me out for a second(*cough* ccp *cough*) there is a serious f***ing problem when a game starts with 5 people calling in LAVs for the sole purpose of running people over. I have left games because it takes away from the nature of DUST514, A FRIKIN FIRST PERSON SHOOTER, not Grand Theft Auto or Grand Tourismo. If you want to get your kills primarily from LAV impacts go f***ing play one of the mentioned two.
I play this game to pit my shoot/maneuver skills with those in front of me. When I have to jump around dodging dickheads(who obviously suck at FPS) in LAV's while shooting at other ground troops, it removes the reason I play this game. I can understand one guy trying to change the direction of the game. I actually sometimes enjoy the added challenge. But when 4 LAV's are buzzing in and out killing everybody on my team, that is ******* stupid.
Two possible solutions: 1) Make the impact mechanics of enemy LAV's like friendly. They push the player. 2) Preferred: Do not take a clone from impacts and give 0 WP to the driver for the kill.
End of story and f*** you if you play this game only by running people over. Oh, Core Flaylock Pistole abusers can walk off a cliff as well. |
Another Heavy SOB
TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN.
305
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Posted - 2013.07.10 20:54:00 -
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Dr Allopathy wrote:Another Heavy SOB wrote:And who the **** are you to delegate what us heavies roles are. I'm getting damn sick and tired of this bullshit, somehow it's OK for every class to try to fill whatever role they'd like regardless of design intent. I don't give a **** if CCP intended heavies for point defense, I can play it however the **** I'd like. Hell I thought that's part of what this game was about! The freedom to chose my role and how I go about it.
Finally you're a bold faced liar if you claim you've been run down by a LAV. I don't believe that for one second you've never been smashed from behind while ADS engaging a group of reds. Dr Allopathy wrote:I rarely die by LAV drivers. Calm down big boy.
Dr Allopathy wrote:Django Quik wrote:Oh it's a troll - I see. I feel dumb for responding sensibly now. I am adamant about my position. I seriously never die from these things , why is it an issue? The real annoyance is the fact that I have to dodge them all the time. Other than that, its not really an issue. Just put an isk price on them and we're good to go IMO.
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Camp Day
Channel 12 News Team
15
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Posted - 2013.07.10 20:59:00 -
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They're easy to dodge going full out, then as they're turning around just run towards them. They don't have the best turning radius. The red dot will get fed up and drive away or jump out. Then
Let the shooosting begin! |
Cosgar
ParagonX
2599
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Posted - 2013.07.10 20:59:00 -
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It's not that hard to dodge a LAV, (unless you're a heavy) its those cheap 1mph kills. |
HAICD
Dogs of War Gaming DARKSTAR ARMY
25
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Posted - 2013.07.10 21:04:00 -
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Just give us the stats on who the murder taxi drivers are and let put a bounty on there heads time to troll the trolls |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
160
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Posted - 2013.07.10 21:07:00 -
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Try keeping track on 5 on the field at once, you dodge one the others is right behind you |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
205
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Posted - 2013.07.10 21:08:00 -
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Ever since I switched to logi suits I don't mind LAVs any longer. I just drop my drop link and keep on chucking proto AV nades at them from a place they can't reach
But yeah, I agree, if you keep your eyes open and have decent situational awareness, you should almost always be able to dodge them.
To those complaining about 5 LAVs:
That's 5 guys not really contributing to capturing points for their team. How about you take 5 of your guys and jump into Militia (yes, Militia) forge gunner suits? Focus fire and even the best LLAV will end up in a molten block of iron after a single salvo. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
844
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Posted - 2013.07.10 21:10:00 -
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I mean what are you supposed to do against an invincible Charybdis?
I just had a match this morning where this Charybdis just ran circles around me trying to run me over. I had 2 complex kin cats so it was fairly easy to dodge. I threw 5 EX-0 av nades at him while he tried 3-4 times to run me over. Those 5 nades all hit... and I was able to get him down to 50% shields at which point he just drove off in search of easier prey... probably activating a militia booster and getting his shields back before he even came across the next poor sap.
Seriously... is that intended balance? |
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Upper Deckin
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.07.10 21:10:00 -
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Dr Allopathy wrote:
I do support a LAV nerf (make them cost isk like the other militia equipment), but I don't think the uproar is so deserved. At first the LAVs were annoying, but I and others learned how to adapt and are now acrobatic gymnasts who hop across the field.
HTFU
What about anyone who bought a 50$+ DLC and now has a BPO?
Can't really nerf that .
A charbalis or whatever is 84000 isk no mods, I think avg would be 200K fitted so close to a basic price of A HAV ....
How much do you want them to cost??
I just have to laugh at how weak you all seem crying on the forums about the game . You died cause your a nub or your dumb and got outsmarted , or were too stupid to change tactics or suits. This game isn't hard you just lack FPS skill .
You're not special , I know mommy said you were but your not . There's always gonna be someone bigger ,stronger ,better than you .
Get your weight up not your hate up .
I'd say the devs should stop listening to the community .
Best way to kill a game .... Is listen to the forum heads, and it looks like CCP is well on the way to driving anyone who might grab this beta ( it's a beta, I don't care what anyone says we're all just testing for the real ps4 release) away .
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Django Quik
R.I.f.t
908
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Posted - 2013.07.10 21:14:00 -
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Upper Deckin wrote:Best way to kill a game .... Is listen to the forum heads Because CCP have listened to Eve players for 10 years and that games dead... |
Poonmunch
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
64
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Posted - 2013.07.10 21:32:00 -
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Shadowswipe wrote:Here is a simple list of rules to help you not get hit by an LAV. I found them on a kids safety site. Excerpt "Each year, children are injured and killed by cars. Kids can be hit by cars when crossing the street, while playing in the road or when riding bicycles. Make sure that your children are as safe as possible by showing them ways to avoid dangers on the streets." Source: http://www.ehow.com/how_4923528_teach-children-road-safety-rules.htmlI don't understand how people get ran over when we are taught to look Left, Right, then Left again...
But city streets aren't NASCAR tracks.
Or demolition derby tracks.
Or off-roading areas in open spaces.
At least in those places you can get hurt if your vehicle hits something or flips over. Not so much in DUST.
In those places it can take ten minutes to half an hour to flip vehicles over or scrape them off the track. Not so much in DUST.
I don't mind getting run over if I am not careful but LAVs shouldn't violate the laws of newtonian physics.
Munch |
Dr Allopathy
Raging Pack of Homos
165
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Posted - 2013.07.10 22:02:00 -
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Upper Deckin wrote:What about anyone who bought a 50$+ DLC and now has a BPO?
Can't really nerf that .
A charbalis or whatever is 84000 isk no mods, I think avg would be 200K fitted so close to a basic price of A HAV ....
How much do you want them to cost??
I just have to laugh at how weak you all seem crying on the forums about the game . You died cause your a nub or your dumb and got outsmarted , or were too stupid to change tactics or suits. This game isn't hard you just lack FPS skill .
You're not special , I know mommy said you were but your not . There's always gonna be someone bigger ,stronger ,better than you .
Get your weight up not your hate up .
I'd say the devs should stop listening to the community .
Best way to kill a game .... Is listen to the forum heads, and it looks like CCP is well on the way to driving anyone who might grab this beta ( it's a beta, I don't care what anyone says we're all just testing for the real ps4 release) away .
Lol I first say that MLT lav's should be nerfed by having an isk value added, and then you go off on a rant just because you spent $50
I don't know how you deal with your feels |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
409
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Posted - 2013.07.11 00:25:00 -
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This is what Pinkie Pie thinks of murder taxis |
Justin Tymes
Raymond James Corp
199
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Posted - 2013.07.11 01:01:00 -
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Lol Heavies and Armor tanking Logis "side-stepping" LAVs. |
rebecca watson
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
70
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Posted - 2013.07.11 03:03:00 -
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Posting in accidental troll thread, but here goes:
LAV's should recieve similar hp value damage to that delivered upon impact, as well as feel a corresponding inertial response.
Newton's 3rd law: ....a force equal in magnitude and opposite in direction....
In other news, I Finally took a non-fatal hit from an LAV the other day. Just wish it were more consistent with slow-speed hits being non-fatal, and high speed hits delivering more damage to the LAV..... ESPECIALLY in the case of heavily armored heavies!! (Should also seriously slow them down more, and little scouts get rofl plowed thru.. (don't worry I <3 u scout bros)) |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. League of Infamy
3960
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Posted - 2013.07.11 03:05:00 -
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Dr Allopathy wrote:I rarely die by LAV drivers. It's too easy to sidestep, and predict where they're driving. You have the upper hand because you have the ability to change direction last minute; they, however, can't turn on a dime so quickly.
As I stated in the title, the majority of LAV deaths are from people who already suck at maneuvering. Not only do you guys consistently get run over, but you also move straight toward your targets, stand still while shooting, etc etc.
Please, just for the sake of ending the whining, learn how to strafe/maneuver properly.
I do support a LAV nerf (make them cost isk like the other militia equipment), but I don't think the uproar is so deserved. At first the LAVs were annoying, but I and others learned how to adapt and are now acrobatic gymnasts who hop across the field.
HTFU
How is the heavy suit working out |
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