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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.07 22:10:00 -
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Nova knifes with slower charges/attack speed but bigger range / span |
Nelo Angel0
The Nommo Insurance Fraud.
86
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Posted - 2013.07.07 22:21:00 -
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No they'd be too good. People wouldn't stop using them. Nova swords so much better then ARs that they'll be nerfed useless just because they look better. |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.07 22:22:00 -
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Nelo Angel0 wrote:No they'd be too good. People wouldn't stop using them. Nova swords so much better then ARs that they'll be nerfed useless just because they look better. What if the charging time is like 10 seconds |
Asher Night
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.07 22:23:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4 wrote:Nova knifes with slower charges/attack speed but bigger range / span
I pitched this idea over a year ago, but people don't like the concept of getting melee'd to death. A lot of people already hated the nova knives.
I am all for this idea. I feel it should take a light weapon slot and essentially be like the nova knives except with just one blade, and more range. This is very doable, and would finally make a somewhat even fight between scouts and heavies instead of a "paper, rock scissors"/instant lose scenario for scouts that it is now. I
'm positive heavies will hate this idea because it means more challenging fights which heavies by nature can't stand - hence the reason they love the role of high HP + instant kill weapons.
Suck it heavies. |
SGT NOVA STAR
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2013.07.07 22:24:00 -
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This idea is NOVA approved |
Asher Night
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.07 22:26:00 -
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Nelo Angel0 wrote:No they'd be too good. People wouldn't stop using them. Nova swords so much better then ARs that they'll be nerfed useless just because they look better.
That's stupid, why would you just assume something like that? Like for real, why just fly off the handle with so many inane assumptions?
The nova knives are basically what he's talking about, except they charge faster, hit twice and probably do more DPS than a sword would. All you would have to do is exactly what you do for knifers already. Casually walk backward and keep firing as they desperately and pathetically try to cut you.
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TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1456
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Posted - 2013.07.07 22:42:00 -
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Make it a light weapon.
I wanna run a nova sword, but when I have to reload, I wanna pull out knives (provided they have a full clip). |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.07 22:43:00 -
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I want a HEAVY WEAPON nova sword that can only be carried by a heavy suit. |
Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.07 22:44:00 -
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I'd want to see all the races get melee weapons before we start making variants of the one we have. |
Ghost Kaisar
Intrepidus XI
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Posted - 2013.07.07 22:47:00 -
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SGT NOVA STAR wrote:This idea is NOVA approved
Give me a Nova Cutlass and I will be the most swashbuckling-est mercenary you will ever see.
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Nelo Angel0
The Nommo Insurance Fraud.
86
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Posted - 2013.07.07 22:47:00 -
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Asher Night wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:No they'd be too good. People wouldn't stop using them. Nova swords so much better then ARs that they'll be nerfed useless just because they look better. That's stupid, why would you just assume something like that? Like for real, why just fly off the handle with so many inane assumptions? The nova knives are basically what he's talking about, except they charge faster, hit twice and probably do more DPS than a sword would. All you would have to do is exactly what you do for knifers already. Casually walk backward and keep firing as they desperately and pathetically try to cut you.
You must not understand a joke.. It would be nerfed just for being much cooler than anything else currently in the game. ARs will get jelly and ask for it to be nerfed because it's so damn cool.
get the joke now or do I have to go full ****** for you to understand? |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.07 22:48:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:I'd want to see all the races get melee weapons before we start making variants of the one we have. I'd want to see all the x get y before we start making variants of the ones we have. |
Tyrunis Bloodstone
sephiroth clones General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.07.07 23:05:00 -
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This isn't Halo bruh |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.07.07 23:23:00 -
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Tyrunis Bloodstone wrote:This isn't Halo bruh Exactly.
I'll take a Heated Plasma Greatsword for my Titan Heavy, might as well give me those micro afterburners so I can death lunge noobs.
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CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.07 23:26:00 -
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ive been asking for lightsabers since day one. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
508
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Posted - 2013.07.07 23:33:00 -
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I'd be all for a Nova Gladius, light weapon, increased charge time, range and damage from the Nova Knives.
However, I'd also like the ability to use them without charging them (though at the cost of damage potential).
I also want to know why I'm not stabbing at people when I melee with knives up, why must I always do the scissors lunge?
Let me just shank people.
Please? |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
4516
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Posted - 2013.07.07 23:36:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:I also want to know why I'm not stabbing at people when I melee with knives up, why must I always do the scissors lunge?
Let me just shank people.
Please? It makes more sense, considering the dropsuit is power armor. You'd want to stab vital spots since it would give you the most damage for the energy used. Slicing an armored foe with a dagger is kind of meh, but shanking would require more realistic animations and attention to physics. |
Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
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Posted - 2013.07.07 23:40:00 -
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Yeah, and we could bring in nova shields, and get some nav bows and nova arrows, and bring in nova horses for everyone to ride around on. Of course, with the horses, we'll need some nova spears.
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Seriously, this is a futuristic shooter. Knives (or small cutting tools, however based) willl always have a place on the battlefield. Swords are a step backwards. If you want a first person sword game, go play Skyrim (Seriously, if you haven't played it, do it. It's awesome).
Tired of seeing all these "request nova (insert ancient weapon here)" threads. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
508
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Posted - 2013.07.07 23:45:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:I also want to know why I'm not stabbing at people when I melee with knives up, why must I always do the scissors lunge?
Let me just shank people.
Please? It makes more sense, considering the dropsuit is power armor. You'd want to stab vital spots since it would give you the most damage for the energy used. Slicing an armored foe with a dagger is kind of meh, but shanking would require more realistic animations and attention to physics.
Precisely and it would give anyone pause when they saw a group of minjas suddenly appear.
"Oh ****, am I about to be?" |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.07.07 23:47:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:Seriously, this is a futuristic shooter. Knives (or small cutting tools, however based) willl always have a place on the battlefield. Swords are a step backwards. If you want a first person sword game, go play Skyrim (Seriously, if you haven't played it, do it. It's awesome) If I could modify a heavy suit to hold more armor and house a small afterburner for forward lunges, I think I'd be mad not to grab a big ass sword. I can eat shots because I'm in wicked heavy power armor, and all I need is one good swing to give a splitting headache, so to speak.
Swords died out because there hasn't been a reliable defense against firearms.
Enter super suits.
Come at me bro.
Actually, hold on, I'll come to you.
Worst case I'll do it with my MTAC |
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.07.07 23:51:00 -
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/thread # 156,153,245,115,133,135,564,010 on Nova Swords |
Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.07 23:54:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Arx Ardashir wrote:Seriously, this is a futuristic shooter. Knives (or small cutting tools, however based) willl always have a place on the battlefield. Swords are a step backwards. If you want a first person sword game, go play Skyrim (Seriously, if you haven't played it, do it. It's awesome) If I could modify a heavy suit to hold more armor and house a small afterburner for forward lunges, I think I'd be mad not to grab a big ass sword. I can eat shots because I'm in wicked heavy power armor, and all I need is one good swing to give someone a splitting headache, so to speak. Swords died out because there hasn't been a reliable defense against firearms. Enter super suits. Come at me bro. Actually, hold on, I'll come to you. Worst case I'll do it with my MTAC
If you want to do that with your heavy, I'd suggest a big ass lance. More durable and a better point. Little turning capability while boosting (you guys are used to that ) but enough power to show those damn LLAVs who's boss. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
508
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Posted - 2013.07.07 23:54:00 -
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@Maken
Aren't you the forum authority on Nova Knives? Any insight on why we can't just shank/stab? Why always the scissors lunge?
Just assuming you're the best person to ask since you've probably read/posted in ALL of the Nova Knife threads. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3078
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Posted - 2013.07.07 23:59:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:@Maken
Aren't you the forum authority on Nova Knives? Any insight on why we can't just shank/stab? Why always the scissors lunge?
Just assuming you're the best person to ask since you've probably read/posted in ALL of the Nova Knife threads.
Honestly, I'm wondering why CCP didn't give us the lounge feature for charged knives and instead decided to give it to the melee. /mindboggled
Swords sound like something we might get anyways considering that we have yet to see the rest of the racial variants of the knives.
Amarr: Looks like a gladiator's short sword from the Roman era. Minmatar: Looks like a piece of metal with duck tape for a handle. Gallente: Klingon hook knife anyone?
Source: Fanfest 2013: Keynote Dust 514 |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
517
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Posted - 2013.07.08 00:28:00 -
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@Maken
I've tried both methods and either way I get the scissors lunge.
I haven't seen a shank/stab animation in Dust ever.
We've got a jab animation (melee with a Swarm Launcher up, you'll see it), I don't see why that couldn't be repurposed into a stab animation.
Lemme stick a shiv in that snipers ribs and leave him twiching, please CCP, I'm imploring you. |
SnakeSix
Pradox One
12
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Posted - 2013.07.08 00:40:00 -
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This is like that one thread about bows and arrows |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
478
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Posted - 2013.07.08 00:42:00 -
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Handheld nova spike shield
MAKE IT HAPPEN CCP |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
81
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Posted - 2013.07.08 00:45:00 -
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A nice kill action will be thrusting the blade or who will prefer a slash from upper-right to lower-left? With a cool sound effect too, because I'm currently not that pleased with the new sfx for the knife. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.07.08 00:46:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:If you want to do that with your heavy, I'd suggest a big ass lance. More durable and a better point. Little turning capability while boosting (you guys are used to that ) but enough power to show those damn LLAVs who's boss. That's actually not a bad idea.
Maybe some kind of single shot, long reload plasma blaster built into it as well. Extremely short range, designed to obliterate impaled enemies that somehow haven't died. |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.08 00:48:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Minmatar: Looks like a piece of metal with duck tape for a handle. Minnies get short-changed and dissed all the time about their craftmanship. But it's all funny. lol |
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