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Razor Signal wrote:

xLTShinySidesx wrote:

Scouts do have by far the highest sp requirements for use.

Katalyzer requires lvl 5 endurance

Shotty, lvl 4 light weapon

Hacking, lvl 4 core upgrades

It's ridiculous really for how weak the suits are.

Scouts are a total sp sink right now, I've already skilled out of mine but I do run it occasionally if I want a quick few deaths.

I was going to go with hacking on my scout but I'm still torn on it. After checking out the Minimatar Logi suit, I realize that hacking shouldn't be a focus. I might drop one or two ranks into it but I'm uncertain, still. On one hand, I feel like the role of the scout can be a speed hacker (running to hack and fleeing before being caught) but at the same time, that doesn't exactly seem the 'right' way to play my scout. I'm new so I'm probably doing it 'wrong'.

I feel like I should be avoiding being the forward hacker - that's basically asking my guy who is tissue paper to hopefully manage to hack and capture a node when I could, instead, be planting remote explosives/droplinks in areas and hunting for enemy droplinks/nanohives to take out while keeping an eye out for potential enemy clones to merc as I relay information about where the enemy is concentrated to my squad/team. That doesn't mean I wouldn't be hacking when the opportunity arises, however, but I'd want to make sure that the enemy is far enough away that they're not going to catch me. This could be more stealth than speed.

Basically, hacking is ridiculously expensive and I have no clue what I'm doing on my scout.

Also; I wish we received WP for destroying enemy droplinks/nanohives. Five points wold be nice. Counter-Hacking along with vehicle hacking, too. Anything that is helping the team win, even if it is a war of attrition.

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OZAROW A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 66	Posted - 2013.07.07 22:05:00 - [61] - Quote I was good in my fit an still am, but it has changed extremely so who ever is saying I must suck has no clue about the issues mentioned because they probably never used a scout with knives. Its main feature was runnin a jumping , take that away an you have a paper thin slow suit, mind you the strafing speed screws u up trying to shoot me just as much as me trying to knife you. But the hit box , stamina usage, an knife hit detection are worse than ever before an only scouts notice this. Most suits have no clue how much this game is saving them from speed tanked razor blades! Uprising 1.1 knifes were getting 40/0 games it's not a easy roll to play but if you were good you could be a monster! That's why you specialize your class so you get those kill scores instead of having points spread an wasted in multiple places, learned this long ago. It's like this imagine running your assault Infront of a pack of enemy's pushing forward an the game had a gun jam glitch - boom your dead. Respawn sneek behind a guy aim at his head - gun jams he starts shooting you punch him twice now you have no stamina to run or jump an cant shoot , - dead! Get what I'm saying trolls. You would scream so load in your mom mas basement an get so irritated you d be all " stupid game rifles are crap I need a new weapon but rifles are my fav- hey ccp fix the bloody AR)!" So imagine all your skills were worthless because not too many fits have need for complex biotics! So troll your heart out on the explanation but if you still don't understand ask your mom if she dropped you as a baby! It's a game issue not user issue!
KING CHECKMATE A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 189	Posted - 2013.07.07 22:08:00 - [62] - Quote OZAROW wrote: Spent 6 months running boosters only to have my entire scout class ruined! Hit box too big Knives delay an cant hit a target right beside because of knife button quick slash delay an strafe speed almost impossible Endurance nerf to jumping, melee, running and endurance bar delay too much even with endurance skil, cardiac an kinetic proto Scout suit now garbage Almost impossible to not go even . Minmatar suit is a assassin not recon! So ccp thanks for wreaking months of money an hard work my question is what are you going to do about it? Respects for all scouts an drop the class all together or fix it? Probably got close to 2 bills out of me only to destroy my wasted funds Stupid me for believing it was worth it! Anyone else choked about this and know what the fixing plan is or if their is one? Told ya bro, why you think im running Caldari Logi now...? 2 mil ISK to the garbage on Minmatar skills, probably another 1.5 mil on Nova knives and shotguns....
OZAROW A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 66	Posted - 2013.07.07 22:16:00 - [63] - Quote It took about 9 million to get a decent fit, I would do cal logi but I have no ar, so I'm probably gonna go mini assault I like two weapons on my fit then I can at least use the weapons I already have
Fist Groinpunch Goonfeet Top Men. 7	Posted - 2013.07.07 22:36:00 - [64] - Quote I'm so sorry you are not able to go 40/0 anymore. My heart goes out to you. I hope they fix whatever it is that you think is wrong with the suit so that you can go 40/0 again. Now that I think about it it's quite an achievement for someone who appears to have some kind of cognitive disability. "Almost impossible to not go even ." Lmao still trying to figure out what this is supposed to mean. Also "Knives delay an cant hit a target right beside because of knife button quick slash delay an strafe speed almost impossible" Hahahah what is this I dont even...
Ghost Kaisar Intrepidus XI 67	Posted - 2013.07.07 23:04:00 - [65] - Quote OZAROW wrote: Matticus Monk wrote: OZAROW wrote: Anyone else choked about this and know what the fixing plan is or if their is one? I feel your pain, OZAROW. I've been playing scout also for about 5-6 months, and while I thought it was challenging at first, now it is basically suicide mode every game!! I am usually lucky if I get a kill every time I spawn in.... between my shotgun not hitting anything, even when I'm super close, my suit being made of paper, and everyone strafing all over the place it's next to impossible. On the occasional match where I snipe, I'm luck to be able to get anyone to render properly or even then get my hits to register. We have really been rolled lately. Here is a post in the CPM section which mentions the issues with scout suits, and it seems it's a recognized problem at CCP but fixing the core mechanics will be the focus for the next few builds. It seems we will have to hold out a while longer. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=91359&p=2 Thanks bro join scout channel BACON KNIVES Join ScoutsUnited We got yo Jacobi We got yo Marauder We got squads of scouts Join the club. Join the Scout Registry
Ghost Kaisar Intrepidus XI 67	Posted - 2013.07.07 23:08:00 - [66] - Quote Daxxis KANNAH wrote: DJINN leukoplast wrote: I dunno, hit-box for scouts seems extremely iffy. Hip-fire against them is absolutely terrible. Not to mention scouts (along with heavies) seem to have some invulnerability to core nades and Thukkers (maybe all nades). Many times I can score direct hits and no health will be taken. Boy I wish that were true Explosives kill me more than anything as a scout. Especially the invisible ones. And the FP and MD ones.
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 181	Posted - 2013.07.08 05:37:00 - [67] - Quote OZAROW wrote: Thanks bro join scout channel BACON KNIVES Roger that - thanks! o7.
Patoman Radiant ZionTCD 150	Posted - 2013.07.08 05:47:00 - [68] - Quote sucks that ccp doesn't have suits balanced, but not all of that 6 mil is in scouts, if you have support skills for mods or weapons those can be used for anything (also I don't remember nova knives being good ever) It takes a fraction of that SP, about one weeks worth or less to get a racial medium suit to 5, and then racial specalized (logi ovciously) to 3 to use advanced suits. Not proto, but the cost of deployment is lower, and still compeditive.
GET ATMESON NEW AGE EMPIRE The Family Syndicate 20	Posted - 2013.07.08 05:58:00 - [69] - Quote OZAROW wrote: What skill do you need in heavy? Good suit good armor good gun? Dude check it Shot gun Nova knives Endurance 5 just to open kinetics Kinetics Cardiac regulation Shield upgrads Shield extention Basic light Scout lv5 Profile dampening Everything level 4:5 Including proficiency Stupid heavy has not even near the point investment so don't even start Basic lets not count suits here becuase they will cost is the same. Endurance lvl 5 for kinetices so we can MOVE if we want to. armor reps lvl 5 armor plates lvl 5 Handed wepons to lvl 3 HMG operation lvl 5 Handheld upgrades lvl 5 Kinetices lvl 5 TO sprint faster. PG upgrades lvl 4 CPU upgrades lvl 4 Sub lvl 5 Sub proficiency lvl 5 Forge guns lvl 4 or 5 Not the only heavy to do thi.s HOW ABOUT THIS. Scouts dont bag on heavys Heavys dont bag on scouts. Work togeather to nerf or buff are class to FIGHT caldari logys
First Prophet Jaguar Empire 363	Posted - 2013.07.08 06:00:00 - [70] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: OZAROW wrote: Matticus Monk wrote: OZAROW wrote: Anyone else choked about this and know what the fixing plan is or if their is one? I feel your pain, OZAROW. I've been playing scout also for about 5-6 months, and while I thought it was challenging at first, now it is basically suicide mode every game!! I am usually lucky if I get a kill every time I spawn in.... between my shotgun not hitting anything, even when I'm super close, my suit being made of paper, and everyone strafing all over the place it's next to impossible. On the occasional match where I snipe, I'm luck to be able to get anyone to render properly or even then get my hits to register. We have really been rolled lately. Here is a post in the CPM section which mentions the issues with scout suits, and it seems it's a recognized problem at CCP but fixing the core mechanics will be the focus for the next few builds. It seems we will have to hold out a while longer. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=91359&p=2 Thanks bro join scout channel BACON KNIVES Join ScoutsUnited We got yo Jacobi We got yo Marauder We got squads of scouts Join the club. Join the Scout Registry WE GOT ALL THE OG SCOUT HUSTLERZ IN THE HOUSE.

castba Penguin's March 18	Posted - 2013.07.08 06:24:00 - [71] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: I'm finding the lack of physics involved in random directional changes along with higher strafing speeds makes sniping challenging. If I'm close enough to have a bigger target I'm dead meat to anything with an AR. Have to echo the frustration of making an apparent on-target shot and not getting any damage. It's going to be a long time until 1.3 it seems. I'm still investing SP in my scout/sniper role -- we'll see how that turns out. I've been on the verge of "taking a break" a couple times since the upgrade. I'm hoping I'm just not used to it yet. 1.3 will be released in ~ 4 weeks. Not what I would call a "long time"... or did Sony knock it back?
castba Penguin's March 18	Posted - 2013.07.08 06:32:00 - [72] - Quote GET ATMESON wrote: OZAROW wrote: What skill do you need in heavy? Good suit good armor good gun? Dude check it Shot gun Nova knives Endurance 5 just to open kinetics Kinetics Cardiac regulation Shield upgrads Shield extention Basic light Scout lv5 Profile dampening Everything level 4:5 Including proficiency Stupid heavy has not even near the point investment so don't even start Basic lets not count suits here becuase they will cost is the same. Endurance lvl 5 for kinetices so we can MOVE if we want to. armor reps lvl 5 armor plates lvl 5 Handed wepons to lvl 3 HMG operation lvl 5 Handheld upgrades lvl 5 Kinetices lvl 5 TO sprint faster. PG upgrades lvl 4 CPU upgrades lvl 4 Sub lvl 5 Sub proficiency lvl 5 Forge guns lvl 4 or 5 Not the only heavy to do thi.s HOW ABOUT THIS. Scouts dont bag on heavys Heavys dont bag on scouts. Work togeather to nerf or buff are class to FIGHT caldari logys +1, but you also forgot shields in your skill list
GET ATMESON NEW AGE EMPIRE The Family Syndicate 21	Posted - 2013.07.08 06:34:00 - [73] - Quote castba wrote: GET ATMESON wrote: OZAROW wrote: What skill do you need in heavy? Good suit good armor good gun? Dude check it Shot gun Nova knives Endurance 5 just to open kinetics Kinetics Cardiac regulation Shield upgrads Shield extention Basic light Scout lv5 Profile dampening Everything level 4:5 Including proficiency Stupid heavy has not even near the point investment so don't even start Basic lets not count suits here becuase they will cost is the same. Endurance lvl 5 for kinetices so we can MOVE if we want to. armor reps lvl 5 armor plates lvl 5 Handed wepons to lvl 3 HMG operation lvl 5 Handheld upgrades lvl 5 Kinetices lvl 5 TO sprint faster. PG upgrades lvl 4 CPU upgrades lvl 4 Sub lvl 5 Sub proficiency lvl 5 Forge guns lvl 4 or 5 Not the only heavy to do thi.s HOW ABOUT THIS. Scouts dont bag on heavys Heavys dont bag on scouts. Work togeather to nerf or buff are class to FIGHT caldari logys +1, but you also forgot shields in your skill list Cant uses shields with current heavy suit. only 2 highs on basic and 1 on sentinel Waiting for caldari heavy
Niuvo The Phoenix Federation 95	Posted - 2013.07.08 06:58:00 - [74] - Quote It's not about what's the best suit so you can skill in it. I think it's about how you want to play. I'm skilling into the things I want to use, I'm also hoping for them to work properly in the future. I'm going for the scanner now. so when the cloaking comes up, do we have to skill into that? If so, then the a. scanner can wait.
Scheneighnay McBob Blueberry Gunners 1986	Posted - 2013.07.08 13:50:00 - [75] - Quote OZAROW wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I was a scout. But instead of whining, I used the triple SP we're getting (actually bought a booster for once) to throw a pile of SP into vehicles. This event is the perfect opportunity to "respec" I'm not whining an I did do that, but I play this game because the scout is my style an I want it back lol all u did was buy a car not even the same ball park My SP went into: Prototype hybrid small turrets Assault dropships Logistics dropships Armor hardeners Vehicle maneuvering (afterburners, nitrous, overdrives) I didn't just buy a car.
Oso Peresoso RisingSuns 153	Posted - 2013.07.08 14:15:00 - [76] - Quote InsidiousN wrote: Specialization is supposed to be the entire basis of this game and a main selling point, the thing that it has and no other shooter can touch. Being a jack of all trades is discouraged by the very long skill training times. Which means that OZAROW took the correct approach by fully skilling into a very specific build, and the onus lies with CCP to actually make a balanced game. If specialization alone was the point of the game, people would be able to respec every week and be fully specialized in whatever role they chose, whenever they choose. This isn't that game. Skillpoint choices are permanent, and choices have consequences. Overspecialization is a basic pitfall of the system, and it is not an unintended one. The onus IS on CCP to make a balanced game, but balance isn't something achieved or completed, its something constantly in motion as new content is added, old content adjusted, and players explore/exploit new tactics. Putting all your eggs in one basket only to be shocked when a few things change is simply foolish. InsidiousN wrote: We just continue going from one trump card to the next. At one point Scouts were world-beaters because they couldn't be shot, then Tanks, then swarm launchers, then laser rifles, then Tactical Assault Rifles, and now everyone is demanding respecs so they can put their skill points into the newest trump card of Caldari Logi. Yes, and this is because people are specializing in those FotM builds (and occasionally OVERspecializing). Skillpoint respecs are a major aggravating factor to the use of dominant FotM tactics. In fact this is probably the number one reason respecs are in general not given out lightly, and why CCP might never offer Aurum respecs (that and because they're pay-to-win and cheapen your character a bit). As someone who has played Eve for a long time, let me tell you that in some sense it will always be this way. The metagame will always dictate some FotM strategy. CCP does listen to people's complaints/demands about balancing, but they have a policy of not commenting in specific terms unless a fix is already in the works. By all means *** and moan about how terrible life is as a scout, or how OP this or that is. Just for the love of God don't * about how you wasted 2m sp on some rank8 skill with marginal benefits for a single weapon instead of unlocking an entire new specialization or role. Its the worst argument you can make. Quote:** So, go fck yourself Oso Peresoso, OZAROW actually spent the time to skill his character in the way that this game is supposed* to operate. And how exactly did that turn out for him? Oh wait, he made a thread to tell us all about his poor choices. This should be taken as a cautionary tale for other players, not a tale of man cruelly wronged by CCP. Quote: The huge elephant in the room, and the one that will prevent CCP from growing the DUST population is the fact that it takes 6 months to really get anywhere near completing a specific build, but if there is no stable foundation of balance, then why would anyone spend the time skilling into anything? Once you complete the build you were working on for 6 months it may go from being a viable option to being completely and utterly useless. Gosh, what a bunch of sensible observations, I wonder what lessons we might draw from this? Perhaps it would be useful to recognize that we're roughly on the 80//20 rule here. Or that if your "complete" build contains a lot of lvl 5's and no lvl 4 skills, then you're probably on a foolish plan. Or maybe we should accept that not all skills were created equal, and choosing the correct one requires a bit of general knowledge, awareness of one's own needs, and a bit of critical thinking too! BTW, that elephant isn't going anywhere. Its working as intended. And again, the game will not one day achieve a sense of balance. It will always be in flux.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 146	Posted - 2013.07.08 14:49:00 - [77] - Quote Have to agree with Oso and anyone who comes on the forums really shouldnt be that naive. I havent specced out my Profile Damp / Precision / Range yet (dropped in a few points) because Ivan and some other guys said it wasnt working and isnt worth it yet. I havent gone pass Lv3 Novas and it is one of my most used weapons because really and truly my Assassinations are working just fine. I still am only on Lv2 Electronics and Engineering and only looking to go higher to fit my ScR but it can wait because I am hoping Combat Rifle may have lesser fitting requirements and that is my secondary fit. Point is, Lv3 is usually good unless you absolutely need Lv5 (ie Kinetic Catalysers / Shields) Yes - Biotics being at the top is a b!tch and CCP nerfing (seemingly) sprint as well as improving other performance have hit scouts hard but they have proven to revisit us. Hope that happens soon.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 229	Posted - 2013.07.08 16:16:00 - [78] - Quote OZAROW = Quickgloves (?) Nice writing style. And same spelling errors. AWOX much? *foil hat secured
xLTShinySidesx Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 464	Posted - 2013.07.08 17:23:00 - [79] - Quote Scouts do have by far the highest sp requirements for use. Katalyzer requires lvl 5 endurance Shotty, lvl 4 light weapon Hacking, lvl 4 core upgrades It's ridiculous really for how weak the suits are. Scouts are a total sp sink right now, I've already skilled out of mine but I do run it occasionally if I want a quick few deaths.
Niuvo The Phoenix Federation 111	Posted - 2013.07.08 17:30:00 - [80] - Quote We're having a hard time now, but remember that it's temporary. No way I'm skilling into something else.

Doyle Reese OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 249	Posted - 2013.07.08 17:37:00 - [81] - Quote 1.2 was the very first time I've lost a 1 on 1 with a Heavy :(
Xero The Mishima Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 30	Posted - 2013.07.08 17:39:00 - [82] - Quote OZAROW wrote: Spent 6 months running boosters only to have my entire scout class ruined! Hit box too big Knives delay an cant hit a target right beside because of knife button quick slash delay an strafe speed almost impossible Endurance nerf to jumping, melee, running and endurance bar delay too much even with endurance skil, cardiac an kinetic proto Scout suit now garbage Almost impossible to not go even . Minmatar suit is a assassin not recon! So ccp thanks for wreaking months of money an hard work my question is what are you going to do about it? Respects for all scouts an drop the class all together or fix it? Probably got close to 2 bills out of me only to destroy my wasted funds Stupid me for believing it was worth it! Anyone else choked about this and know what the fixing plan is or if their is one? I see some people still play Scout good.. Get better.
Razor Signal Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2013.07.08 17:40:00 - [83] - Quote xLTShinySidesx wrote: Scouts do have by far the highest sp requirements for use. Katalyzer requires lvl 5 endurance Shotty, lvl 4 light weapon Hacking, lvl 4 core upgrades It's ridiculous really for how weak the suits are. Scouts are a total sp sink right now, I've already skilled out of mine but I do run it occasionally if I want a quick few deaths. I was going to go with hacking on my scout but I'm still torn on it. After checking out the Minimatar Logi suit, I realize that hacking shouldn't be a focus. I might drop one or two ranks into it but I'm uncertain, still. On one hand, I feel like the role of the scout can be a speed hacker (running to hack and fleeing before being caught) but at the same time, that doesn't exactly seem the 'right' way to play my scout. I'm new so I'm probably doing it 'wrong'. I feel like I should be avoiding being the forward hacker - that's basically asking my guy who is tissue paper to hopefully manage to hack and capture a node when I could, instead, be planting remote explosives/droplinks in areas and hunting for enemy droplinks/nanohives to take out while keeping an eye out for potential enemy clones to merc as I relay information about where the enemy is concentrated to my squad/team. That doesn't mean I wouldn't be hacking when the opportunity arises, however, but I'd want to make sure that the enemy is far enough away that they're not going to catch me. This could be more stealth than speed. Basically, hacking is ridiculously expensive and I have no clue what I'm doing on my scout. Also; I wish we received WP for destroying enemy droplinks/nanohives. Five points wold be nice. Counter-Hacking along with vehicle hacking, too. Anything that is helping the team win, even if it is a war of attrition.
xLTShinySidesx Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 465	Posted - 2013.07.08 17:50:00 - [84] - Quote Razor Signal wrote: xLTShinySidesx wrote: Scouts do have by far the highest sp requirements for use. Katalyzer requires lvl 5 endurance Shotty, lvl 4 light weapon Hacking, lvl 4 core upgrades It's ridiculous really for how weak the suits are. Scouts are a total sp sink right now, I've already skilled out of mine but I do run it occasionally if I want a quick few deaths. I was going to go with hacking on my scout but I'm still torn on it. After checking out the Minimatar Logi suit, I realize that hacking shouldn't be a focus. I might drop one or two ranks into it but I'm uncertain, still. On one hand, I feel like the role of the scout can be a speed hacker (running to hack and fleeing before being caught) but at the same time, that doesn't exactly seem the 'right' way to play my scout. I'm new so I'm probably doing it 'wrong'. I feel like I should be avoiding being the forward hacker - that's basically asking my guy who is tissue paper to hopefully manage to hack and capture a node when I could, instead, be planting remote explosives/droplinks in areas and hunting for enemy droplinks/nanohives to take out while keeping an eye out for potential enemy clones to merc as I relay information about where the enemy is concentrated to my squad/team. That doesn't mean I wouldn't be hacking when the opportunity arises, however, but I'd want to make sure that the enemy is far enough away that they're not going to catch me. This could be more stealth than speed. Basically, hacking is ridiculously expensive and I have no clue what I'm doing on my scout. Also; I wish we received WP for destroying enemy droplinks/nanohives. Five points wold be nice. Counter-Hacking along with vehicle hacking, too. Anything that is helping the team win, even if it is a war of attrition. That's kind of the point to skilling into hacking, so your paper thin scout can actually get a hack off fast enough that he doesn't get killed. There are a ton of ways to run a scout suit, I prefer the speed, infiltrator, hacker assortment, running complex katalyzers, hacking mods and shield mods with a shotty but this variety is dead right now due to the issues with the suits so for now I skilled into an adv assault suit till they get **** sorted out.
Razor Signal Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2013.07.08 18:01:00 - [85] - Quote Quote: That's kind of the point to skilling into hacking, so your paper thin scout can actually get a hack off fast enough that he doesn't get killed. Yeah, I get hat logic completely and agree but it seems like I would rather focus on the stealth factor to hack rather than speed hack it. Sometimes I even just like to briefly hack something to draw some enemies away from another node in order to allow my team to capture that one. Start the hack until I see them coming on the radar and dip out - sometimes the hack completes, sometimes not. It's not always necessary to complete the hack if the match is going well or if it's more beneficial to draw enemy clones away. In one match I just went around and dropped remote explosives at unattended nodes, start the hack, wait for dudes to start coming for me before peacing out as they arrived in confusion before eating thermite from my explosives. Basically, I'm just trying to avoid actually fighting anyone and being as far away as possible at all times while knowing where the enemy is. My dude is still a newb, so sooner or later I will probably drop some points into it. Avoiding overspecializing is avoiding a slow death. It's better to be flexible.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 147	Posted - 2013.07.08 18:01:00 - [86] - Quote I have gone up to Lv3 hacking - (not sure it was that worth it) I f I had another low slot or if the hacking module was anywhere else I might actually run one. May try a setup with one in but losing Stamina/Regen seems to be taking a big gamble.
Appia Vibbia Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 118	Posted - 2013.07.08 20:33:00 - [87] - Quote Playing the Scout makes me think of waiting for them to balance Rail Gun Turrets... "yeah, yeah, we'll fix it," says CCP. Next Patch/Build: made worse. "yeah, yeah, we'll fix it," says CCP. Next Patch/Build: made worse. "yeah, yeah, we'll fix it," says CCP. Next Patch/Build: made worse. ad nauseum I used to play with something deadly and effective. Now I play with something I have fun with, but can't compete with other suits. The Medium Frames can just armor/shield tank to make up for their lack of skill and stay competitive. The scouts have to rely on skill to make up for horrible game mechanics (invisible character for snipers or if you are too close with the shotgun the blast goes through them at 0 damage) Heavies can at least dish out damage with the HMG and Forge gun. You need the Proto level shotguns to kill people or get a head shot on a moving target with a sniper. We can't just stack damage mods to make up for that lack of killing power and we can't stack shield for lack of slots/CPU and we can't stack armor because it affects movement speed. This isn't a complaint from an MCC Sniper or a Head Glitcher of yore, I snipe is PC daily. This is not some cry from a blue-shielder, the shotgun is legitimately borked.
OZAROW A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 95	Posted - 2013.07.09 14:36:00 - [88] - Quote Xero The Mishima wrote: OZAROW wrote: Spent 6 months running boosters only to have my entire scout class ruined! Hit box too big Knives delay an cant hit a target right beside because of knife button quick slash delay an strafe speed almost impossible Endurance nerf to jumping, melee, running and endurance bar delay too much even with endurance skil, cardiac an kinetic proto Scout suit now garbage Almost impossible to not go even . Minmatar suit is a assassin not recon! So ccp thanks for wreaking months of money an hard work my question is what are you going to do about it? Respects for all scouts an drop the class all together or fix it? Probably got close to 2 bills out of me only to destroy my wasted funds Stupid me for believing it was worth it! Anyone else choked about this and know what the fixing plan is or if their is one? I see some people still play Scout good.. Get better. What's good with a pair of knives an 200 shields/ 70 armor? Is 20/2 good for a pair of knives? Better than what u get with a gun I bet. The points not my skill it's the mechanics of the game have changed. An I'm even getting higher scores after I de fragged my ps 3. I find it funny to see some one be so ignorant on here to say hey " gett good" when you probably have no Clue as to what I'm talking about, don't run a scout full time with millions of sp into it there for. YOUR OPINION DOES NOT COUNT HERE!
castba Penguin's March 23	Posted - 2013.07.09 23:01:00 - [89] - Quote GET ATMESON wrote: Cant uses shields with current heavy suit. only 2 highs on basic and 1 on sentinel Waiting for caldari heavy Agree, but 2 complex extenders means just over 140hp without a movement penalty.
DaleGribbles Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 10	Posted - 2013.07.09 23:52:00 - [90] - Quote Glad I never spent any money here.



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