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Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
2212
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Posted - 2013.07.07 16:06:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:Spent 6 months running boosters only to have my entire scout class ruined! Hit box too big Knives delay an cant hit a target right beside because of knife button quick slash delay an strafe speed almost impossible Endurance nerf to jumping, melee, running and endurance bar delay too much even with endurance skil, cardiac an kinetic proto Scout suit now garbage Almost impossible to not go even . Minmatar suit is a assassin not recon! So ccp thanks for wreaking months of money an hard work my question is what are you going to do about it? Respects for all scouts an drop the class all together or fix it? Probably got close to 2 bills out of me only to destroy my wasted funds Stupid me for believing it was worth it! Anyone else choked about this and know what the fixing plan is or if their is one? Scout suit.
SCOUT suit.
Given the list of Specialization names that was posted a few weeks ago, of which FIVE of those were Light frame suits, might they be trying to make the recon suit into a recon suit in order to make the way for, say, Breach and SpecOps suits? |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
58
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Posted - 2013.07.07 16:07:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:I'm finding the lack of physics involved in random directional changes along with higher strafing speeds makes sniping challenging. If I'm close enough to have a bigger target I'm dead meat to anything with an AR.
Have to echo the frustration of making an apparent on-target shot and not getting any damage.
It's going to be a long time until 1.3 it seems. I'm still investing SP in my scout/sniper role -- we'll see how that turns out. I've been on the verge of "taking a break" a couple times since the upgrade. I'm hoping I'm just not used to it yet. They ll fix it an when they do everybody gonna scream op you watch, so get your speed an save for the cloak |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
59
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Posted - 2013.07.07 16:08:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:stop b1tching that your dropsuit isnt good go make it stronger or even better go get good at the game. survival of the adaptable Um can you read? Not the drop suit sir the entire class |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
407
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Posted - 2013.07.07 16:09:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:OZAROW wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:OZAROW wrote:What skill do you need in heavy? Good suit good armor good gun? Dude check it Shot gun Nova knives Endurance 5 just to open kinetics Kinetics Cardiac regulation Shield upgrads Shield extention Basic light Scout lv5 Profile dampening Everything level 4:5 Including proficiency Stupid heavy has not even near the point investment so don't even start Basic i just went 20/5 with a dragonfly scout. maybe you just suck What weapon? Oh isn't this when the children play? Maybe you should play a 4 am when the men are awake i run an exile Lol use knives an get back to me dragonfly why? it seems dumb to bring a knife to a gun fight. so you are crying you cant stab someone who is shooting you with a full auto AR? keep crying that wont change |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
59
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Posted - 2013.07.07 16:10:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:OZAROW wrote:Spent 6 months running boosters only to have my entire scout class ruined! Hit box too big Knives delay an cant hit a target right beside because of knife button quick slash delay an strafe speed almost impossible Endurance nerf to jumping, melee, running and endurance bar delay too much even with endurance skil, cardiac an kinetic proto Scout suit now garbage Almost impossible to not go even . Minmatar suit is a assassin not recon! So ccp thanks for wreaking months of money an hard work my question is what are you going to do about it? Respects for all scouts an drop the class all together or fix it? Probably got close to 2 bills out of me only to destroy my wasted funds Stupid me for believing it was worth it! Anyone else choked about this and know what the fixing plan is or if their is one? Scout suit. SCOUT suit. Given the list of Specialization names that was posted a few weeks ago, of which FIVE of those were Light frame suits, might they be trying to make the recon suit into a recon suit in order to make the way for, say, Breach and SpecOps suits? A breach scout could be dope ! |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
2213
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Posted - 2013.07.07 16:14:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:OZAROW wrote:Spent 6 months running boosters only to have my entire scout class ruined! Hit box too big Knives delay an cant hit a target right beside because of knife button quick slash delay an strafe speed almost impossible Endurance nerf to jumping, melee, running and endurance bar delay too much even with endurance skil, cardiac an kinetic proto Scout suit now garbage Almost impossible to not go even . Minmatar suit is a assassin not recon! So ccp thanks for wreaking months of money an hard work my question is what are you going to do about it? Respects for all scouts an drop the class all together or fix it? Probably got close to 2 bills out of me only to destroy my wasted funds Stupid me for believing it was worth it! Anyone else choked about this and know what the fixing plan is or if their is one? Scout suit. SCOUT suit. Given the list of Specialization names that was posted a few weeks ago, of which FIVE of those were Light frame suits, might they be trying to make the recon suit into a recon suit in order to make the way for, say, Breach and SpecOps suits? A breach scout could be dope ! It would be a Breach suit, because it would be a separate specialization from Scout, but yes.
I think part of the issue is that too many people assume Scout = Light Assault, which it is not meant for. It's pretty clear that there will eventually be Light Assault Specializations, maybe even Heavy Assault, but freaking out about not being able to do so with current suits doesn't exactly make sense.
Think about it this way: right now, we don't have cloaks, and we've already had confirmation that Scout suits are built to work with cloaks. It's just a question of re-psyching. Rather than jumping around bullets and running at people with knives, you'll be able to sneak up on them un-detected and take them out before they can even fight back. |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
59
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Posted - 2013.07.07 16:15:00 -
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@ sol didn't mommy ground you this week from the computer? It's ok tell her I said you can have ten more minutes, then you gotta let the grown ups talk ok |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
408
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Posted - 2013.07.07 16:31:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:@ sol didn't mommy ground you this week from the computer? It's ok tell her I said you can have ten more minutes, then you gotta let the grown ups talk ok
still runnin this dragonfly. i didnt even die this match. not sure what purpose this suit is supposed to serve but guerilla tactics seem the most effective. i can run around a building and murder someone who is reloading from the firefight we just had.
what was your crying about? if its this easy in a BPO with no sp into suits, how do you even die in a proto scout suit? |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
59
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Posted - 2013.07.07 16:34:00 -
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Use knives noob |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
408
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Posted - 2013.07.07 16:39:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:Use knives noob
no. only a retrd would rely solely on knives. i've laughed at every nova knife specialist who i've ever encountered.
Does it make you a hard ass to get an occasional lucky kill when a red is not paying attention? no
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OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
59
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Posted - 2013.07.07 16:46:00 -
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Troll your not making any sence or being productive your acting 12. I'm not even irritated so to answer your question can you get 30 kills with a knife when your out of the academy? We ll see I gues. So if you think it's so easy or stupid try it. I never said I can't kill I said they nerfed the hit detection endurance stamina an therefor the class so if your not payin attention try to refrain from humiliating yourself |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
59
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Posted - 2013.07.07 17:02:00 -
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Guess he realized he cant quote more than 5 times lol |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
793
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Posted - 2013.07.07 17:36:00 -
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Only a fool brings a knife to a gun fight, that also has tanks. Sidearms, like nova knife, are ment tp be used as supplementary weapons, not to run around like raiden with. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
412
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Posted - 2013.07.07 17:39:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:Guess he realized he cant quote more than 5 times lol
got bored of your crying. i like this scout suit tho. thanks for reminding me i had it. |
Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
2
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Posted - 2013.07.07 17:52:00 -
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Funny....
I run an AR/Nova/RE scout, and my K/Dr has been improving since 1.2. It may have to do with having finally figured out that what a scout should do in a fair fight is RUN AWAY. |
Lightning Bolt2
DUST University Ivy League
33
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Posted - 2013.07.07 17:55:00 -
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so many people saying the Light assault class are fine errr scouts. have fun trolls! |
Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2013.07.07 18:06:00 -
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Lightning Bolt2 wrote:so many people saying the Light assault class are fine errr scouts. have fun trolls!
I kinda think the minni is fine,..
I just hate the fact i need a 100% perfect connection to do good with a scout, I guess the advanced suits could use more cpu, and give galente a cqc melee variant and the minni a recon variant,.
/shrug
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InsidiousN
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
102
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Posted - 2013.07.07 18:08:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:Spent 6 months running boosters only to have my entire scout class ruined! Hit box too big Knives delay an cant hit a target right beside because of knife button quick slash delay an strafe speed almost impossible Endurance nerf to jumping, melee, running and endurance bar delay too much even with endurance skil, cardiac an kinetic proto Scout suit now garbage Almost impossible to not go even . Minmatar suit is a assassin not recon! So ccp thanks for wreaking months of money an hard work my question is what are you going to do about it? Respects for all scouts an drop the class all together or fix it? Probably got close to 2 bills out of me only to destroy my wasted funds Stupid me for believing it was worth it! Anyone else choked about this and know what the fixing plan is or if their is one?
Oso Peresoso wrote:They'll probably buff it. Eventually. Maybe sooner than that since they did say that balance issues were a high priority alongside performance issues. You really spent 6 months specializing into one build and now you can't run anything else? Nice sob story, enjoy your Nova Knife Proficiency 5, lol.
Specialization is supposed to be the entire basis of this game and a main selling point, the thing that it has and no other shooter can touch. Being a jack of all trades is discouraged by the very long skill training times. Which means that OZAROW took the correct approach by fully skilling into a very specific build, and the onus lies with CCP to actually make a balanced game where people can skill into a specific set of skills and be equally competitive on the battlefield in a variety of ways, a rock-paper-scissors approach to balance is a sound analogy. However, CCP has failed miserably to find any competitive balance since day 1 of closed beta.
We just continue going from one trump card to the next. At one point Scouts were world-beaters because they couldn't be shot, then Tanks, then swarm launchers, then laser rifles, then Tactical Assault Rifles, and now everyone is demanding respecs so they can put their skill points into the newest trump card of Caldari Logi.
So, go f*ck yourself Oso Peresoso, OZAROW actually spent the time to skill his character in the way that this game is supposed to operate.
The huge elephant in the room, and the one that will prevent CCP from growing the DUST population is the fact that it takes 6 months to really get anywhere near completing a specific build, but if there is no stable foundation of balance, then why would anyone spend the time skilling into anything? Once you complete the build you were working on for 6 months it may go from being a viable option to being completely and utterly useless. |
Michael Cratar
Fenrir's Wolves RUST415
233
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Posted - 2013.07.07 18:11:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:Spent 6 months running boosters only to have my entire scout class ruined! Hit box too big Knives delay an cant hit a target right beside because of knife button quick slash delay an strafe speed almost impossible Endurance nerf to jumping, melee, running and endurance bar delay too much even with endurance skil, cardiac an kinetic proto Scout suit now garbage Almost impossible to not go even . Minmatar suit is a assassin not recon! So ccp thanks for wreaking months of money an hard work my question is what are you going to do about it? Respects for all scouts an drop the class all together or fix it? Probably got close to 2 bills out of me only to destroy my wasted funds Stupid me for believing it was worth it! Anyone else choked about this and know what the fixing plan is or if their is one?
I don't like scouts, Therefor u never use them, but i do see alot of people doing very good with the scout suit.
This seems more of a rant about how you wasted all your resources on a suit you have no clue how to use, and not a rant on how the scout is "bad."
I had a good laugh, but the joke is over.
Go away. |
InsidiousN
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
102
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Posted - 2013.07.07 18:17:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:Spent 6 months running boosters only to have my entire scout class ruined! Hit box too big Knives delay an cant hit a target right beside because of knife button quick slash delay an strafe speed almost impossible Endurance nerf to jumping, melee, running and endurance bar delay too much even with endurance skil, cardiac an kinetic proto Scout suit now garbage Almost impossible to not go even . Minmatar suit is a assassin not recon! So ccp thanks for wreaking months of money an hard work my question is what are you going to do about it? Respects for all scouts an drop the class all together or fix it? Probably got close to 2 bills out of me only to destroy my wasted funds Stupid me for believing it was worth it! Anyone else choked about this and know what the fixing plan is or if their is one?
Oso Peresoso wrote:They'll probably buff it. Eventually. Maybe sooner than that since they did say that balance issues were a high priority alongside performance issues. You really spent 6 months specializing into one build and now you can't run anything else? Nice sob story, enjoy your Nova Knife Proficiency 5, lol.
Specialization is supposed to be the entire basis of this game and a main selling point, the thing that it has and no other shooter can touch. Being a jack of all trades is discouraged by the very long skill training times. Which means that OZAROW took the correct approach by fully skilling into a very specific build, and the onus lies with CCP to actually make a balanced game where people can skill into a specific set of skills and be equally competitive on the battlefield in a variety of ways, a rock-paper-scissors approach to balance is a sound analogy. However, CCP has failed miserably to find any competitive balance since day 1 of closed beta.
We just continue going from one trump card to the next. At one point Scouts were world-beaters because they couldn't be shot, then Tanks, then swarm launchers, then laser rifles, then Tactical Assault Rifles, and now everyone is demanding respecs so they can put their skill points into the newest trump card of Caldari Logi.
So, go f*ck yourself Oso Peresoso, OZAROW actually spent the time to skill his character in the way that this game is supposed to operate.
The huge elephant in the room, and the one that will prevent CCP from growing the DUST population is the fact that it takes 6 months to really get anywhere near completing a specific build, but if there is no stable foundation of balance, then why would anyone spend the time skilling into anything? Once you complete the build you were working on for 6 months it may go from being a viable option to being completely and utterly useless. |
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StubbyDucky
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
264
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Posted - 2013.07.07 18:24:00 -
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Broke game is broke game.
Don't spend real life money on broke game. |
KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
87
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Posted - 2013.07.07 18:45:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:Spent 6 months running boosters only to have my entire scout class ruined! Hit box too big Knives delay an cant hit a target right beside because of knife button quick slash delay an strafe speed almost impossible Endurance nerf to jumping, melee, running and endurance bar delay too much even with endurance skil, cardiac an kinetic proto Scout suit now garbage Almost impossible to not go even . Minmatar suit is a assassin not recon! So ccp thanks for wreaking months of money an hard work my question is what are you going to do about it? Respects for all scouts an drop the class all together or fix it? Probably got close to 2 bills out of me only to destroy my wasted funds Stupid me for believing it was worth it! Anyone else choked about this and know what the fixing plan is or if their is one?
Classic as to why we need a respec option available at all times via aurum points. 50,000 aurum points. That's 2 psn cards money for Dony and CCP. If it was available this thread would've never been made.
Make it happen CCP what's good that's money in the bank. |
KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
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Posted - 2013.07.07 18:45:00 -
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KING SALASI wrote:OZAROW wrote:Spent 6 months running boosters only to have my entire scout class ruined! Hit box too big Knives delay an cant hit a target right beside because of knife button quick slash delay an strafe speed almost impossible Endurance nerf to jumping, melee, running and endurance bar delay too much even with endurance skil, cardiac an kinetic proto Scout suit now garbage Almost impossible to not go even . Minmatar suit is a assassin not recon! So ccp thanks for wreaking months of money an hard work my question is what are you going to do about it? Respects for all scouts an drop the class all together or fix it? Probably got close to 2 bills out of me only to destroy my wasted funds Stupid me for believing it was worth it! Anyone else choked about this and know what the fixing plan is or if their is one? Classic as to why we need a respec option available at all times via aurum points. 50,000 aurum points. That's 2 psn cards money for Sony and CCP. If it was available this thread would've never been made. Make it happen CCP what's good that's money in the bank.
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Spec Ops Cipher
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
165
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Posted - 2013.07.07 18:50:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:OZAROW wrote:Spent 6 months running boosters only to have my entire scout class ruined! Hit box too big Knives delay an cant hit a target right beside because of knife button quick slash delay an strafe speed almost impossible Endurance nerf to jumping, melee, running and endurance bar delay too much even with endurance skil, cardiac an kinetic proto Scout suit now garbage Almost impossible to not go even . Minmatar suit is a assassin not recon! So ccp thanks for wreaking months of money an hard work my question is what are you going to do about it? Respects for all scouts an drop the class all together or fix it? Probably got close to 2 bills out of me only to destroy my wasted funds Stupid me for believing it was worth it! Anyone else choked about this and know what the fixing plan is or if their is one? Scout suit. SCOUT suit. Given the list of Specialization names that was posted a few weeks ago, of which FIVE of those were Light frame suits, might they be trying to make the recon suit into a recon suit in order to make the way for, say, Breach and SpecOps suits? SpecOps suits? I like the sound of that! |
Spec Ops Cipher
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
165
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Posted - 2013.07.07 18:58:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:OZAROW wrote:What skill do you need in heavy? Good suit good armor good gun? Dude check it Shot gun Nova knives Endurance 5 just to open kinetics Kinetics Cardiac regulation Shield upgrads Shield extention Basic light Scout lv5 Profile dampening Everything level 4:5 Including proficiency Stupid heavy has not even near the point investment so don't even start Basic i just went 20/5 with a dragonfly scout. maybe you just suck Are still in the academy or something? It doesn't count if you were in a dragonfly suit in a lav you know... |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
415
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Posted - 2013.07.07 19:09:00 -
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Spec Ops Cipher wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:OZAROW wrote:What skill do you need in heavy? Good suit good armor good gun? Dude check it Shot gun Nova knives Endurance 5 just to open kinetics Kinetics Cardiac regulation Shield upgrads Shield extention Basic light Scout lv5 Profile dampening Everything level 4:5 Including proficiency Stupid heavy has not even near the point investment so don't even start Basic i just went 20/5 with a dragonfly scout. maybe you just suck Are still in the academy or something? It doesn't count if you were in a dragonfly suit in a lav you know...
ambush. its like the academy |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
65
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Posted - 2013.07.07 21:00:00 -
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Thanks to the guys that have a clue on what I'm talking about, ps the trollers are welcome your bumping the thread an giving the topic the attention it deserves |
Fist Groinpunch
Goonfeet Top Men.
7
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Posted - 2013.07.07 21:05:00 -
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A well fit Minmatar proto scout in CQC is a clone killing machine, and is the suit I'm going to spend SP on after finishing up my assault guy.
You must not be very good at this game if you don't do well with it. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
560
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Posted - 2013.07.07 21:15:00 -
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I dunno, hit-box for scouts seems extremely iffy. Hip-fire against them is absolutely terrible.
Not to mention scouts (along with heavies) seem to have some invulnerability to core nades and Thukkers (maybe all nades). Many times I can score direct hits and no health will be taken. |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
144
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Posted - 2013.07.07 21:22:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:I dunno, hit-box for scouts seems extremely iffy. Hip-fire against them is absolutely terrible.
Not to mention scouts (along with heavies) seem to have some invulnerability to core nades and Thukkers (maybe all nades). Many times I can score direct hits and no health will be taken.
Boy I wish that were true |
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