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calisk galern
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Posted - 2013.07.08 13:19:00 -
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dman the great wrote:CCP do you see that this seriously needs to be nerfed, not for our benifet but for yours, people are thinking of leaving because of that one gun, remove it, nerf it, I don't care do something that will make it less of a ultra weapon and more of an actual weapon!
people threaten to leave when the wind causes their hair to move out of place.
they can't jump at every prissy **** who thinks we care. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.08 13:50:00 -
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I got one sentence and addendum to all Flaylock defenders.
ITS A ****ING SIDEARM!!
That and the fact is dishes out more damage to armor is just silly, why does it do more damage thana Mass Driver?
And dont even get me started on it not requiring PG.
I swear if the ION Pistol isnt OP in its first iteration it better give handjobs for all the BS ive had to put up with from the Flaylock. Just my personal opinion. |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
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Posted - 2013.07.08 14:18:00 -
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this is long overdue, and has now taken the top place of what is ruining this game (aside from hit detection but I know that's currently being addressed)
45/2 cpu/pg anyone can fit this proto weapon and not sacrifice much...
ishukone submachine gun ... 68/6 just as a comparison
splash damage, 20hp less than direct damage.
direct damage is fine, but splash damage needs to be a fraction of its current stat.
explosive animation.. just minimize it or get rid of it altogether.. much like when we had MD spam early in chromosome, it lags the game up considerably.
even allowing the dual FP is a mistake imo, but yes its past due for this weapon getting adjusted. thank all the FOTM scrubs that use it everywhere.. all the time. and even many top tier players are now using it, because its OP? or because they are forced to in able to survive...
either way, this needs attention ASAP before it gets any worse |
ZDub 303
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Posted - 2013.07.08 14:21:00 -
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Seriously, we need a fix in 1.3 for this... CCP, you cannot wait until 1.4 to put a fix in for the flaylock! |
Spectral Clone
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:04:00 -
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dman the great wrote:...those of us who play fair...
I bet youre an AR scrub.
Welcome to New Eden.
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:06:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:dman the great wrote:...those of us who play fair... I bet youre an AR scrub. Welcome to New Eden.
you think any of them aren't?
3 biggest whiners about flaylocks are AR users, armor tanks( lol if any are left ), and heavies. |
Spectral Clone
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
66
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:13:00 -
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If you-Śre looking for a fair game, go play fussball. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:20:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:Munin-Frey wrote:They are obviously OP. That being said I don't mind them much.... They should have some downside. That guy who said they are hard to aim is full of it. The problem is that you can pop off three rounds quickly and nobody sticks around for the third shot so who cares how long the reload is. Personally I think they should do 25 points of damage per shot to the person using it. Anyone who has launched fireworks rockets from your hand knows how bad it hurts as they blast away. takes 6 shots to kill alot of proto heavies. 4-5 for caldari logis, 4 for most other proto shield tankers, 2-3 for most armor tankers
Yes, translated, this is:
2 magazines for proto heavies 1.5 magazines for caldari logis 1.5 magazines for shield tankers 1 magazine for most armor tankers |
Deluxe Edition
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:31:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:calisk galern wrote:Munin-Frey wrote:They are obviously OP. That being said I don't mind them much.... They should have some downside. That guy who said they are hard to aim is full of it. The problem is that you can pop off three rounds quickly and nobody sticks around for the third shot so who cares how long the reload is. Personally I think they should do 25 points of damage per shot to the person using it. Anyone who has launched fireworks rockets from your hand knows how bad it hurts as they blast away. takes 6 shots to kill alot of proto heavies. 4-5 for caldari logis, 4 for most other proto shield tankers, 2-3 for most armor tankers Yes, translated, this is: 2 magazines for proto heavies 1.5 magazines for caldari logis 1.5 magazines for shield tankers 1 magazine for most armor tankers
These numbers are incorrect.
3-4 shots for heavies (3 if they are using dmg mods, 4 if they stack shield extenders) 2-3 shots for Caladari Logi's (2 shots if they have anything equiped other than 5x complex shield extenders, plates do not matter) 2-3 shots for all shield tankers 2 shots for all armor tankers.
Also remember minmitar assaults have 4 shots in a clip due to racial bonus, and the term magazine is misleading as most of the time the weapon is duel weilded and with switching weapons being instant now the true clip size is between 6-8 shots depending on if you are using a minmitar assault suit or not. |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. League of Infamy
565
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:37:00 -
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It is true the flaylock has issues. Namely the dmg it does is additive. IE the direct dmg is added to the splash dmg which means with no weapon bonuses it does 480 dmg......it gets a -dmg% against shields but a +dmg% against armor. |
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:41:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:It is true the flaylock has issues. Namely the dmg it does is additive. IE the direct dmg is added to the splash dmg which means with no weapon bonuses it does 480 dmg......it gets a -dmg% against shields but a +dmg% against armor.
don't believe this is right, I've direct hit guys with it and it barely does any more then the splash damage. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
992
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:42:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:It is true the flaylock has issues. Namely the dmg it does is additive. IE the direct dmg is added to the splash dmg which means with no weapon bonuses it does 480 dmg......it gets a -dmg% against shields but a +dmg% against armor. don't believe this is right, I've direct hit guys with it and it barely does any more then the splash damage.
Yeah, this is not right. The direct damage is what it hits with on a direct hit, not both.
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Deluxe Edition
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:43:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:It is true the flaylock has issues. Namely the dmg it does is additive. IE the direct dmg is added to the splash dmg which means with no weapon bonuses it does 480 dmg......it gets a -dmg% against shields but a +dmg% against armor. don't believe this is right, I've direct hit guys with it and it barely does any more then the splash damage.
Yea I've shot crouchers directly and it only does the 20 extra damage direct hits give.
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Talos Alomar
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:28:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:I got one sentence and addendum to all Flaylock defenders.
ITS A ****ING SIDEARM!!
WHO ***ING CARES
Just because a weapon fits in the sidearm slot it doesn't mean that it has to be ineffective. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:32:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:Buster Friently wrote:calisk galern wrote:Munin-Frey wrote:They are obviously OP. That being said I don't mind them much.... They should have some downside. That guy who said they are hard to aim is full of it. The problem is that you can pop off three rounds quickly and nobody sticks around for the third shot so who cares how long the reload is. Personally I think they should do 25 points of damage per shot to the person using it. Anyone who has launched fireworks rockets from your hand knows how bad it hurts as they blast away. takes 6 shots to kill alot of proto heavies. 4-5 for caldari logis, 4 for most other proto shield tankers, 2-3 for most armor tankers Yes, translated, this is: 2 magazines for proto heavies 1.5 magazines for caldari logis 1.5 magazines for shield tankers 1 magazine for most armor tankers These numbers are incorrect. 3-4 shots for heavies (3 if they are using dmg mods, 4 if they stack shield extenders) 2-3 shots for Caladari Logi's (2 shots if they have anything equiped other than 5x complex shield extenders, plates do not matter) 2-3 shots for all shield tankers 2 shots for all armor tankers. Also remember minmitar assaults have 4 shots in a clip due to racial bonus, and the term magazine is misleading as most of the time the weapon is duel weilded and with switching weapons being instant now the true clip size is between 6-8 shots depending on if you are using a minmitar assault suit or not.
i'll admit my proficiency in the weapon is only level 2 but I use 3 damage mods, and it still takes 5-6 shots to kill most well speced proto heavies and caldari logis, don't get me wrong though I do find heavies that can drop in 4 shots, and I find logis that drop in one.
but the ones I come across in pc, or in pub stomping proto fits, tend to take the numbers I supplied.
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
685
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:38:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Seriously, we need a fix in 1.3 for this... CCP, you cannot wait until 1.4 to put a fix in for the flaylock!
FYI, 1.3 has been frozen for almost two weeks. No word on what's in it.
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D legendary hero
Strong-Arm
290
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:53:00 -
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dman the great wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:dman the great wrote:CCP this core flaylock is not a gun its an abomination; people are walking around with it and one shoting people without competition, it makes the game no fun to play and those of us who play fair and use other weapons just get left to rot in the flaylocks waste, Please lower the splash and direct hit damage or remove it all together, people are being slaughtered by it more than HMG's witch are meant to slaughter!
Please like this if you agree It can only one shot scouts and badly fit militia suits...and even then, only if it hits directly. That's of course assuming that scout/militia is at full health. If he isn't at full health, he shouldn't be whining about a OHK. Also, you need to reload after only 3 shots...and you need to hit with splash 3 times at least to kill anything decently fit. Direct hits are rare unless the opponent is a ****** who stands still or moves in a very predicable way...mostly because of bullet flight time. It takes a lot of skill to lead that gun correctly against non idiot opponents. As for dps, while the flaylock's per shot damage is higher, dps isn't higher than for the smg or scrambler pistol for that matter. Again, the bullet flight time and small magazine are major drawbacks...and against well fit opponents who don't move predictably like idiots, the core isn't op. You're asking for a nerf simply because you haven't figured out how to counter it yet...or your fit sucks. It's a PROTOTYPE level gun, it's supposed to be good. Have you tried the scrambler pistol at that level? Headshots OHK a ton just like the flaylock. Dude for one no not just scouts get 1 OHK I have 500 armor and 175 shields I loose shields very quikly but when a core flaylock shows up the practicly never existed because he instantly drops me with one shot, for example I was going from Alpha to Bravo on ashland and got sniped by a core flaylcok sitting in the crowsnest, had full shields, had full armor, so please explain to me how the core flaylock is not OP if it can one shot 500+ armor and 175 shields? hmm?
i use core flaylocks and can tell you i will never take out some with 500 shield and 175 armor with just splash damage even with proficincy at lvl5.
the problem is that people carry two of them and spam it close quarters the damage and splash is fine. the flaylocks are meant to stop AR noobs from running people over close range, just like a pistol or SMG.
main point: what the flaylocks (basic to PROTO) really need is a reload speed increase (instead of reloading at 2.5 seconds make it 3.5 or 4 seconds) and a blast radius increase of .5 meters per lvl5.
because the blast radius is suppose to be small but not so small that you need a direct hit, because that defeats the point to using a rocket pistol if i have to hit you directly why not just use a scrambler pistol?, have you seen the breach scrambler pistol it does 135 damage per shot in close range, and can hold 12 bullets... the flaylocks do 200+ damage but only hold 3 in one clip. with a 1 meter blast radius its hard to hit lightening fast caldari logis (such as yourself) moving all over the place. giving the flaylocks a blast radius increase of .5 and a reload speed of 3.5 seconds can help stop spammers as they need to actually aim to hit you, at the same time it wont be nerfed to the point where it is usesless
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D legendary hero
Strong-Arm
291
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:08:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:dman the great wrote:CCP this core flaylock is not a gun its an abomination; people are walking around with it and one shoting people without competition, it makes the game no fun to play and those of us who play fair and use other weapons just get left to rot in the flaylocks waste, Please lower the splash and direct hit damage or remove it all together, people are being slaughtered by it more than HMG's witch are meant to slaughter!
Please like this if you agree It can only one shot scouts and badly fit militia suits...and even then, only if it hits directly. That's of course assuming that scout/militia is at full health. If he isn't at full health, he shouldn't be whining about a OHK. Also, you need to reload after only 3 shots...and you need to hit with splash 3 times at least to kill anything decently fit. Direct hits are rare unless the opponent is a ****** who stands still or moves in a very predicable way...mostly because of bullet flight time. It takes a lot of skill to lead that gun correctly against non idiot opponents. As for dps, while the flaylock's per shot damage is higher, dps isn't higher than for the smg or scrambler pistol for that matter. Again, the bullet flight time and small magazine are major drawbacks...and against well fit opponents who don't move predictably like idiots, the core isn't op. You're asking for a nerf simply because you haven't figured out how to counter it yet...or your fit sucks. It's a PROTOTYPE level gun, it's supposed to be good. Have you tried the scrambler pistol at that level? Headshots OHK a ton just like the flaylock.
^^this is 100% correct.
THE FLAYLOCKS DO IN ONE CLIP THE SAME DAMAGE A SCRAMBLER PISTOL OR SMG WOULD DO IN ONE CLIP.
the flaylocks are exactly the same the reload speed is abit high but thats about it. people QQ saying oh it only takes one clip from a proto flaylock to kill a heavy etc... the dps on a flaylock and SMG an scrambler psitol is eactly the same.
flaylocks do 220 per shot lets say... x 3 in one clip = 660damage in one clip SMG does 25 x 80 in one clip = 2000 damage in one clip scrambler pistol does 78 per shot x 12 in one clip = 936 in one clip.
now remember the flay locks did not get the 10% buff all other weapons did so the actual unmodified dps is:
1. flaylocks: 660 per clip, dps = damage per shot which is 220 2. SMG: 2200 per clip, 416.7 dps 3. scrambler pistols 78, 520 dps ( i forgot the actual rate of fire, i think its 400)
either way in practice the flaylock can fir its entire clip in a little faster than 2seconds making the dps slightly higher, but its actual dps is lower than the SMG and scrambler pistols.
flaylocks are explosives and are designed for splash damage, etc... it does its damage in chunks instead of chip damage get over it.
the flaylocks do need a reload speed increase to 3.5 or 4seconds because it reloads much faster than the other secondaries. however if this becomes true it should get a raduis buff by .5m. |
D legendary hero
Strong-Arm
291
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:17:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:Deluxe Edition wrote:Buster Friently wrote:calisk galern wrote:Munin-Frey wrote:They are obviously OP. That being said I don't mind them much.... They should have some downside. That guy who said they are hard to aim is full of it. The problem is that you can pop off three rounds quickly and nobody sticks around for the third shot so who cares how long the reload is. Personally I think they should do 25 points of damage per shot to the person using it. Anyone who has launched fireworks rockets from your hand knows how bad it hurts as they blast away. takes 6 shots to kill alot of proto heavies. 4-5 for caldari logis, 4 for most other proto shield tankers, 2-3 for most armor tankers Yes, translated, this is: 2 magazines for proto heavies 1.5 magazines for caldari logis 1.5 magazines for shield tankers 1 magazine for most armor tankers These numbers are incorrect. 3-4 shots for heavies (3 if they are using dmg mods, 4 if they stack shield extenders) 2-3 shots for Caladari Logi's (2 shots if they have anything equiped other than 5x complex shield extenders, plates do not matter) 2-3 shots for all shield tankers 2 shots for all armor tankers. Also remember minmitar assaults have 4 shots in a clip due to racial bonus, and the term magazine is misleading as most of the time the weapon is duel weilded and with switching weapons being instant now the true clip size is between 6-8 shots depending on if you are using a minmitar assault suit or not. i'll admit my proficiency in the weapon is only level 2 but I use 3 damage mods, and it still takes 5-6 shots to kill most well speced proto heavies and caldari logis, don't get me wrong though I do find heavies that can drop in 4 shots, and I find logis that drop in one. but the ones I come across in pc, or in pub stomping proto fits, tend to take the numbers I supplied.
now compare this verses how an SMG or a crambler pistol of the same level would perform in the same situations.
if the person is moving predictably or standing still of course they are going to do. if they are i a firefight and lossing sheilds aromr etc, of course it will kill them.
really alot of people get upset because they are bunnyhopping around and while this makes them invincible to most weapons due to hit detection issues, flaylocks still hit them. (jumping actually does affect hit detetion not to the point invincibility but it does give an unfair edge to faster suits namely shield tankers.
i have core flaylocks, adv flaylocks and regular flaylocks. i honestly tell NO ONE uses the regular flaylocks becaue they are terrible..lol
i use them just to be different i specc'd into flaylocks before it was cool. thanks to the ncreased movement speed of players, and poor hit detection combined with a small blast radius if you dnt get a direct hit your not doing anything with these std flaylocks....lol. you have to use adv, or proto to get any effect. the proto flaylocks cost 21,000 isk just like proto SMGs and PROTO scrambler pistols. if you take 10 SMG ounds or 4 pistol rounds and condense them in one shot that is the flay locks pistol |
D legendary hero
Strong-Arm
291
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:23:00 -
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Talos Alomar wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:I got one sentence and addendum to all Flaylock defenders.
ITS A ****ING SIDEARM!!
WHO ***ING CARES Just because a weapon fits in the sidearm slot it doesn't mean that it has to be ineffective.
ok. so by that logic proto SMGs and proto sramble pistols and PROTO nova knives should suck too right?
the people QQ are all proto logi's with 700+ ehp and because they dnt carry side arms it does not matter to them but for people who actually in enjoy diversity in this game the flaylocks are fine. at least now im dying to things other than Assault rifles. its like a breath of fresh air.
the flaylocks are close quarters weapons like scrambler pistols, SMGs, shotguns, nova knives. i garantee you eveyone of your deaths to a flaylock were either in close quarters of you were standing still somewhere and got wasted by one. its happened to me and i dnt care because i know to treat them like a shotgun and other CQB weapons, i create some distance and shoot them from afar.
NOTE: this does not mean however that i condone people carrying 2 core flaylocks and spamming them... the reload speed needs an increase to 3.5 seconds or 4 seconds to discourage spamming. |
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Lynn Beck
Tank Bros. DARKSTAR ARMY
68
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:43:00 -
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Its a rocket, not a kittening grenade, also: All sidearms are stronger than their full set counterpart- scramblers, smg-hmg, flaylock to mass driver, but they have eztremely reduced range and ammo, scrambler has 1/8 the ammo of its rifle, smg has 1/4 the ammo of hmg, and the flaylock has not only half the ammo, also has 1/5 of the splash Quit yer bichin |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
190
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:48:00 -
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Flaylock > Massdriver
This is not right. That's like if the scrambler pistol was better than the scrambler rifle, or if the SMG was a better killer than the HMG..... oh wait. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
2323
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:51:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:I got one sentence and addendum to all Flaylock defenders.
ITS A ****ING SIDEARM!!
That and the fact is dishes out more damage to armor is just silly, why does it do more damage thana Mass Driver?
And dont even get me started on it not requiring PG.
I swear if the ION Pistol isnt OP in its first iteration it better give handjobs for all the BS ive had to put up with from the Flaylock. Just my personal opinion. The Ishukone SMG is a sidearm and has a higher DPS than a Duvolle and Boundless HMG. Your point? |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
463
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Posted - 2013.07.08 19:01:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:Flaylock > Massdriver
This is not right. That's like if the scrambler pistol was better than the scrambler rifle, or if the SMG was a better killer than the HMG..... oh wait.
the mass driver is different not worse or better.
mass driver does less damaage and a slower rate of fire,
but has a larger blast radius, more ammo per clip, and a much longer range with no set travel distance like the flaylock.
this would mean as a suppression tool the mass driver would be more effective.
As I stated before the flaylocks only problem is it's CPU and PG cost.
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D legendary hero
Strong-Arm
291
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Posted - 2013.07.08 19:12:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:Flaylock > Massdriver
This is not right. That's like if the scrambler pistol was better than the scrambler rifle, or if the SMG was a better killer than the HMG..... oh wait.
^^lolz its try the minmintar side arms are better than the minmintar primaries. but, at least the Mass drivers are usable now. |
D legendary hero
Strong-Arm
291
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Posted - 2013.07.08 19:13:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Its a rocket, not a kittening grenade, also: All sidearms are stronger than their full set counterpart- scramblers, smg-hmg, flaylock to mass driver, but they have eztremely reduced range and ammo, scrambler has 1/8 the ammo of its rifle, smg has 1/4 the ammo of hmg, and the flaylock has not only half the ammo, also has 1/5 of the splash Quit yer bichin
Amen. sir, i give you a handshake |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
191
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Posted - 2013.07.08 19:34:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:Tallen Ellecon wrote:Flaylock > Massdriver
This is not right. That's like if the scrambler pistol was better than the scrambler rifle, or if the SMG was a better killer than the HMG..... oh wait. the mass driver is different not worse or better. mass driver does less damaage and a slower rate of fire, but has a larger blast radius, more ammo per clip, and a much longer range with no set travel distance like the flaylock. this would mean as a suppression tool the mass driver would be more effective. As I stated before the flaylocks only problem is it's CPU and PG cost.
Someone please tell me why a glorified flare gun does more explosive damage than a grenade launcher? Giving the flaylock killing power as an explosive sidearm is fine, but making it this much more powerful than the mass driver is ridiculous. I like the mass driver how it is now though, so do something about that flaylock, it's giving my mass driver funny looks.
Also you can't dual wield a mass drivers...... oh sweet mother of god, they just made a new suit. |
Lynn Beck
Tank Bros. DARKSTAR ARMY
70
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Posted - 2013.07.09 04:09:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:Flaylock > Massdriver
This is not right. That's like if the scrambler pistol was better than the scrambler rifle, or if the SMG was a better killer than the HMG..... oh wait. Alright so the flaylock doesnt have a light wpn variant, ur point? Also ye the smg is better than hmg, but hmg has more "techinical" dps, will all of thise hit? No. Scrambler rifle might have more dps than pistol, but the 450% headshot bonus cannot be ignored. Still strengthening my point that it is legitimate as a sidearm, can you snipe with it like an ar? No? Then HTFU |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
706
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Posted - 2013.07.09 04:44:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Seriously, we need a fix in 1.3 for this... CCP, you cannot wait until 1.4 to put a fix in for the flaylock! FYI, 1.3 has been frozen for almost two weeks. No word on what's in it.
I know, but they need to unfreeze that **** and fix this ******* gun or take it out of the game entirely until they can. |
Luis rules 1st
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
4
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Posted - 2013.07.09 04:58:00 -
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In my opinion, is way OP. You cannot give that ammount of "bonus" damage to people who don't even aim at the body. Also it's kinda dumb that a primary weapon, Mass Driver, requires more skill and time to take down anyone than a Flylock, which is a sidearm.
Options to fix it? 1.- Make it a single shot like a lot of high power weapons (Or charge shot, in the case of the Forge gun, which is pretty much single shot) 2.- Reduce the splash radious &/or splash damage (It's even ok with me if you increase it direct damage, cuz it must have a bounus if you are good with it). 3.- Reduce RoF, cuz right now it has no controll, like TAR had once.
I'm not saying to do all that at once, cuz it might be the same as the laser, which was nerfed so badly that is useless now. TAR is still a good weapon & I like it for midlong encounters.
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