O have proto swarms so i def have tried them, as well as fly assault drop ship so i know what the op is saying. But thanks for your non help....

Your welcome. I'm glad I didn't help you.

My swarms pack a bigger punch though.

Swarms > AV Grenades.

O had to look at what corp you where with, now i know why you had no advice....Thanks

Why can dropships out run my swarm launcher that is ridiculous please fix.

Funny.. they never outrun my Swarms Specially the pilots that thinks that they can just sit in midair, shooting down at people.

Why can dropships out run my swarm launcher that is ridiculous please fix.

REALLY BUDDY LAST TIME I CHECKED SL DO 330 DAMMAGE PER SHOT 6 SHOTS PER SWARM 330 TIMES 6 IS NOWHERE NEAR 3000, I THINK U NEED TO ASSES YOUR MATH SKILLS

Learn 2 Launch Better.

Why can dropships out run my swarm launcher that is ridiculous please fix.

Learn 2 Launch Better.

How do you launch swarms, might i ask? please do teach the way......

Because Dropships require skill, Swarms do not.

Skill > Hand holding.

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HAVs you really need to be in a superior position and focus on widening the window of opportunity as much as possible. HAVs are generally tough without a wide window that doesn't at least allow for a reload or two depending on your meta level means that the HAV is going to slam shut that window and get out of harms way.

actually swarms do require some skill to use. if you just fire and forget then 9/10 times your going to hit nothing or something that is not your target or do little damage. too far and he escapes, too close and your dead, in the open your asking to be sniped.

you have to find that perfect spot and:

1) have clear sight of the target but not be exposed
2) you need to have enough missiles to kill the target so be close to re-supply or carry a nano hive.
3) you need the target to be exposed in the open or driving towards you
4) you need to be vigilant or people locating you(changing positions and never stop moving)
5) forget about av grenades, your using a long range missile launcher. if the vehicle is close then bug out and find a new position. fit some contact grenades and a smg and you wont have much issues doing so.

when it comes to dropships i do take some out on occasion but primarily i harass them from below until other swarmers or forge gunners arrive to assist me.patience and coordination are key. it takes skill to pick the right moment to shoot to catch the pilot off guard and send them to the ground as a burning pile of scrap metal.

Dropships with afterburners can outrun them, and dodging them is as easy as driving around a corner.

Since nobody else seems to want to explain, I'll cover this one.

When the enemy Dropship is flying away from you, DON'T launch if you intend to hit them. If they're flying at an angle or towards you, line up, lock on, then aim at where they're traveling. Unless they're heading directly at you, DO NOT FIRE STRAIGHT AT THE TARGET.

If you fire straight at a Dropship that's moving on an angle past you, the missiles will arc around behind the target and follow it at about the same speed the Dropship is moving. Obviously, this doesn't achieve much except forcing the Dropship to keep moving.

If you aim ahead of the target, the shot will arc in and hit the Dropship from the front.

If you're good, and fast, you can land 2 Swarms before a non-Assault Dropship can turn away from you. If you arc your shots in the right direction, you can sometimes get lucky on an ADS and make them turn towards you for a second hit, but it's not something to rely on.

Also, 330 splash damage, and a bit extra for direct damage on top, plus the damage from damage mods because almost everyone uses them, multiplied by the number of missiles (4 to 6), then usually multiplied by the fact that Swarm Missiles are ridiculously bad at hitting Dropships anywhere but their weak points.

The basic skills needed for Swarm Launcher Operation in order of importance

Situational Awareness
Superior Positioning
Target Prediction
Angle of Attack
Target Window Calculation

Another tip is if the ship is in the air and out in the open up high is to launch away from the dropship on the first volley then lock your second up this shortens the delay between first and second salvo by a few mere seconds. Learn your launch cadence too to minimise the time from the first launch and second launch, you want as many swarms in the air as possible.

Also try not to launch at a dropship at speed, a full speed DS can outrun a swarm pack easy. Instead predict where its going to do a flight correction and fire in such a manner that when the flight correction to his lowest speed and reaction and your swarms meet him would nearly coincide. If you watch enough Dropship pilots long enough you know everything they're going to do as a swarm launcher operator.

For other vehicles
Don't launch at an LAV coming at you most of the time the missiles wont turn fast enough to nail it and will hit the ground instead.

HAVs you really need to be in a superior position and focus on widening the window of opportunity as much as possible. HAVs are generally tough without a wide window that doesn't at least allow for a reload or two depending on your meta level means that the HAV is going to slam shut that window and get out of harms way.

Also when possible work as a team if you're really into killing vehicles.

Also do know there is great value in the swarm launcher as a vehicle suppression tool.

Wow, HAV with best armor tank, drop after 2 volleys of proto-swarm's(thats how unbalance they are), but hey thank you for your great advice sir, I will pay attention to my 'view window' with close range blaster agains guy that **** me because he can lock me in 1,7 sec, hide and fire from some cave till I die :) Thanks once again.


Everyone who want to kill vehicle with AV weapon need to meet that 5 points - it's basic stuff - thats why we call SL noob weapon that require no skill to use.

Anti-infantry Tanks needs to focused on a few things

1. Stop outrunning your infantry escort.
2. Squad Up and get infantry escort especially a sniper to deal with the AV launchers and Forgers.
3. Destroy Supply Depots that cannot be maintained control of by your team.
4. Be mindful of your surroundings, always plan an escape route, and a fall back point and what can and cannot be used as a cover.
5. Situational Awareness is ultra critical in an HAV, you are not paying attention to what is happening on the entire battlefield you're going to get blown to pieces easily.
6. If you are no where near your infantry escort DO NOT STOP MOVING!!!!
7. Hardeners, Toughen up.
8. HP, get it.
9. Resistances, get it.
10. Shield tank against swarms if they're that much of an issue.
11. Be paranoid of any infantry rushing you. they most likely have a satchel full of grenades with your name on it.