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5P3CTR3 R1S1NG
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.07.06 05:37:00 -
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I don't know if anyone has posted a topic about this or if a dev has acknowledged the fact that people who played and/or capped out on Wednesday lost out on a potential 570k or 856k SP. I was apart of the group that capped out on Wednesday because I wanted to get the maximum SP possible, and I know people are going to say "Why did you play on wednesday , you couldn't wait one day?" I capped out on Wednesday because CCP confirmed that if we did manage to cap out we would not be affected. Its not the point that the event did not go as planned, it the fact of how they resolved it. The people who didn't play Wednesday and capped out Thursday got 571,200(856,800 with active booster) and CCP's answer to the script not working properly was was to just reset everyones skill cap back to 571,200 which basically gave the people who did not play Wednesday that played Thursday and additional 570K(856k) SP which in total is around 1mil+ SP or 1.7mil.
This is one of those situation where the developers had good intentions but something went wrong. I just hope the developers compensate for what happened or at least give feedback to this because it would be unfair to basically give people who didn't take CCP's word an extra 570k SP and give the rest nothing.Hopefully CCP has a way of keeping track of everyones SP or at least have a way of remotely keeping track of it.
Feedback would be appreciated, especially from a dev on this matter. |
Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
115
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Posted - 2013.07.06 05:45:00 -
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5P3CTR3 R1S1NG wrote:I don't know if anyone has posted a topic about this or if a dev has acknowledged the fact that people who played and/or capped out on Wednesday lost out on a potential 570k or 856k SP. I was apart of the group that capped out on Wednesday because I wanted to get the maximum SP possible, and I know people are going to say "Why did you play on wednesday , you couldn't wait one day?" I capped out on Wednesday because CCP confirmed that if we did manage to cap out we would not be affected. Its not the point that the event did not go as planned, it the fact of how they resolved it. The people who didn't play Wednesday and capped out Thursday got 571,200(856,800 with active booster) and CCP's answer to the script not working properly was was to just reset everyones skill cap back to 571,200 which basically gave the people who did not play Wednesday that played Thursday and additional 570K(856k) SP which in total is around 1mil+ SP or 1.7mil.
This is one of those situation where the developers had good intentions but something went wrong. I just hope the developers compensate for what happened or at least give feedback to this because it would be unfair to basically give people who didn't take CCP's word an extra 570k SP and give the rest nothing.Hopefully CCP has a way of keeping track of everyones SP or at least have a way of remotely keeping track of it.
Feedback would be appreciated, especially from a dev on this matter. If you capped on hump day, then you're out 375ish SP. The game's free, and you're still earning a metric crap-ton of SP. Be happy that you're here for the event. I travel for work quite a bit, and I missed the last one. Less QQ, more Pew Pew! |
5P3CTR3 R1S1NG
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
2
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Posted - 2013.07.06 05:51:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote: If you capped on hump day, then you're out 375ish SP. The game's free, and you're still earning a metric crap-ton of SP. Be happy that you're here for the event. I travel for work quite a bit, and I missed the last one. Less QQ, more Pew Pew!
Im not Crying over this want to at least get a reply from a dev on this and I am happy about this event but other people are happier because of the potential 1mil+ SP the could have gotten.
PS : Im sure alot of people have missed out on the last event including me. |
Swell Shot
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
7
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Posted - 2013.07.06 05:59:00 -
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So did I but you don't see me crying about it; besides I am pretty sure the cap reset on Thursday again anyway |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
785
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:02:00 -
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You lost nothing its been fixed Yesterday I had 300k+ SP left til I hit the cap, today its 500k+ sp til the cap |
5P3CTR3 R1S1NG
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
2
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:05:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:You lost nothing its been fixed Yesterday I had 300k+ SP left til I hit the cap, today its 500k+ sp til the cap People that capped out Thursday or just played on Thursday were given an additional 570K SP and yes , I lost out on the chance to earn 6x SP. |
Delenne Arran
Ivory Hounds
27
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:12:00 -
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I think this is kind of a "no compensation or feedback required" kind of thing. Not even really sure what you'd want them to do about it? This is pretty much the best solution for everyone. It's a bit unbalanced, but only if you have the time and desire to play two days straight to cap out in a single day, then do it again over the next 5 days.
IF they're even tracking it, they can't just triple what you got on Wednesday, as that's before the event started. In addition, some people played both Wednesday AND Thursday, so they would still have earned more. They also couldn't just return what was earned Wednesday to the cap, in part for that same reason, in part because some people would still complain about "missing out." Can't just take away triple SP earned on Thursday, since some people will have only played that day. Can't just ignore the people who capped out on Wednesday, because they said they'd be able to do so without worry.
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5P3CTR3 R1S1NG
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
3
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:17:00 -
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I know nothing will probably be done ,but im holding my breath still. |
Killar-12
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
14
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:21:00 -
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Swell Shot wrote:So did I but you don't see me crying about it; besides I am pretty sure the cap reset on Thursday again anyway It did and I need to get back on to take advantage of this opportunity |
Dust Project 514
Dust Evo 514
83
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:21:00 -
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It's fixed. Got around around 100K weds, 350k yesturday, and over 550k today. BOSS! |
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2100 Angels
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
155
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Posted - 2013.07.06 07:44:00 -
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It's not fixed. I'm in the same boat to the OP, except I didn't play wednesday or thursday. Because I didn't play on either day I'm out a potential 571,200 SP that I could have recieved prior to the weekly cap being reset. This is an appauling solution to an easy problem, as it gives some players an advantage over others arbitrarily.
I'm not usually one to jump on board the complain train because I can live with imbalances in game content because everyone is on equal footing. This has given a number of players (probably the majority) the opportunity to earn up to 571,200 (no booster) SP more than people who did not play over these 2 days. This is not a fair solution and some sort of compensation should be organised.
Honestly though CCP, why on earth would you not have just taken one of the following routes? a) Restore weekly cap to 3*190,400 = 571,200 LESS amount already earned or; b) Increase weekly cap to 6*190,400 = 1,142,400 LESS amount already earned (if you were so intent on providing a "making-up-for-our-screw-up" bonus) as this is what some players have effectively achieved
/dissapointed. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
4709
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Posted - 2013.07.06 07:50:00 -
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I capped on Wednesday, but the fix worked for me. If you're still having problems still, I would recommend posting in the bugs/tech support section, or filing a petition. |
2100 Angels
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
155
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Posted - 2013.07.06 08:16:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I capped on Wednesday, but the fix worked for me. If you're still having problems still, I would recommend posting in the bugs/tech support section, or filing a petition.
They didn't fix anything, they reset the weekly cap for everyone, meaning that you missed out on ~375k that people who decided to cap on Thursday got |
The Black Art
Pro Hic Immortalis
154
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Posted - 2013.07.06 08:38:00 -
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There really is no better option. They would either have to take away SP already earned, or do what they did and just reset everyone. If they did the former, there would be a lot more tears. Especially from busy people who set aside Wed/Thur to hit the cap, only to be told it was for nothing and now they have to re-grind. |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2013.07.06 08:44:00 -
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5P3CTR3 R1S1NG wrote:I don't know if anyone has posted a topic about this or if a dev has acknowledged the fact that people who played and/or capped out on Wednesday lost out on a potential 570k or 856k SP. I was apart of the group that capped out on Wednesday because I wanted to get the maximum SP possible, and I know people are going to say "Why did you play on wednesday , you couldn't wait one day?" I capped out on Wednesday because CCP confirmed that if we did manage to cap out we would not be affected. Its not the point that the event did not go as planned, it the fact of how they resolved it. The people who didn't play Wednesday and capped out Thursday got 571,200(856,800 with active booster) and CCP's answer to the script not working properly was was to just reset everyones skill cap back to 571,200 which basically gave the people who did not play Wednesday that played Thursday and additional 570K(856k) SP which in total is around 1mil+ SP or 1.7mil.
This is one of those situation where the developers had good intentions but something went wrong. I just hope the developers compensate for what happened or at least give feedback to this because it would be unfair to basically give people who didn't take CCP's word an extra 570k SP and give the rest nothing.Hopefully CCP has a way of keeping track of everyones SP or at least have a way of remotely keeping track of it.
Feedback would be appreciated, especially from a dev on this matter.
Something ALWAYS goes wrong. Your fault for thinking CCP could get something right. |
2100 Angels
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
155
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Posted - 2013.07.06 08:46:00 -
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The Black Art wrote:There really is no better option. They would either have to take away SP already earned, or do what they did and just reset everyone. If they did the former, there would be a lot more tears. Especially from busy people who set aside Wed/Thur to hit the cap, only to be told it was for nothing and now they have to re-grind.
2100 Angels wrote:Honestly though CCP, why on earth would you not have just taken one of the following routes? a) Restore weekly cap to 3*190,400 = 571,200 LESS amount already earned or; b) Increase weekly cap to 6*190,400 = 1,142,400 LESS amount already earned (if you were so intent on providing a "making-up-for-our-screw-up" bonus) as this is what some players have effectively achieved
two very feasible options right there mate |
Delenne Arran
Ivory Hounds
28
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Posted - 2013.07.06 08:57:00 -
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2100 Angels wrote:Honestly though CCP, why on earth would you not have just taken one of the following routes? a) Restore weekly cap to 3*190,400 = 571,200 LESS amount already earned or; b) Increase weekly cap to 6*190,400 = 1,142,400 LESS amount already earned (if you were so intent on providing a "making-up-for-our-screw-up" bonus) as this is what some players have effectively achieved
two very feasible options right there mate
This assumes they can set an individual cap for every player easily, quickly, and without it messing anything else up. Not saying they can't, but it may not be as feasible as you think. |
THE GREY CARDINAL
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
142
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Posted - 2013.07.06 09:02:00 -
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I was 20K short of cap by Thursday's downtime. With my boosters, I made about about 260K-ish. I'll make about 855K-ish with the triple SP. That's 1.1 million. Would I have liked to get that 600K from capping Thursday? Hell yeah, I'm an SP junkie...but 1,100,000 is still damn nice. I would wager that a VAST minority of gamers really capitalised on this by capping all that SP...that goes for capping out Wednesday too. It's a week day, people have work and most of these aren't hardcore forum dwelling people who probably had no idea this event is even happening.
A boosted merc makes about 2.2 million a month by hitting cap, after a few have gone by I doubt you'll even miss that 600SP. :) |
2100 Angels
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
155
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Posted - 2013.07.06 09:33:00 -
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Delenne Arran wrote:2100 Angels wrote:Honestly though CCP, why on earth would you not have just taken one of the following routes? a) Restore weekly cap to 3*190,400 = 571,200 LESS amount already earned or; b) Increase weekly cap to 6*190,400 = 1,142,400 LESS amount already earned (if you were so intent on providing a "making-up-for-our-screw-up" bonus) as this is what some players have effectively achieved
two very feasible options right there mate This assumes they can set an individual cap for every player easily, quickly, and without it messing anything else up. Not saying they can't, but it may not be as feasible as you think.
is it really that difficult to set variables and input to a simple equation? if so it raises serious doubts in my mind about CCPs coding ability.
%NewCap - %AccruedLastCap |
Knightshade Belladonna
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
399
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Posted - 2013.07.06 13:01:00 -
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People say there is no other option as if a rollback has never happened in gaming or ccp history for that matter...
which ofc is far to late now, but when the original dmg was found it could have been fixed with a rb
some would still have the somewhat screwed feeling, but nobody would have a huge leap in sp that others had no chance for |
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
944
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Posted - 2013.07.06 13:09:00 -
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LOL. People get too fired about what other people might be able to get or get away with. Worry about what you are doing and stop trying to make the world fair. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
390
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Posted - 2013.07.06 13:34:00 -
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A few guessed something like this might happen and so played a crappy alt on wed, and capped on thursday. I bet some even capped friday. How come you didnt?
Everyone knows things go wonky with each step forward. One could argue that you people who capped on wednesday should stop begging for something then complaining when you get it. Or is it that you are jealous? Life is not fair and you cant have everything.
Unless of course you anticipated it all and acted accordingly. Wow that would be a nice bump were someone to have done that. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
399
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Posted - 2013.07.06 14:20:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:A few guessed something like this might happen and so played a crappy alt on wed, and capped on thursday. I bet some even capped friday. How come you didnt?
Everyone knows things go wonky with each step forward. One could argue that you people who capped on wednesday should stop begging for something then complaining when you get it. Or is it that you are jealous? Life is not fair and you cant have everything.
Unless of course you anticipated it all and acted accordingly. Wow that would be a nice bump were someone to have done that.
that was the overal opinion of basically all of us until 2 seperate blues, GM not support came in and said all was ok, no worries about playing wed |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
211
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Posted - 2013.07.06 14:29:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:
that was the overal opinion of basically all of us until 2 seperate blues, GM not support came in and said all was ok, no worries about playing wed
If you have been around, you expect CCP to muck up events, updates, and especially communication.
If this is your first taste of that, then learn from it.
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Knightshade Belladonna
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
399
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Posted - 2013.07.06 14:39:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:
that was the overal opinion of basically all of us until 2 seperate blues, GM not support came in and said all was ok, no worries about playing wed
If you have been around, you expect CCP to muck up events, updates, and especially communication. If this is your first taste of that, then learn from it.
I'm sure I have been around longer than you.
That still is not a valid argument though , of course expect it.. but I mean dude, we all asked about if tons of times in thread after thread and then 2 actual developers say not to worry.. you think they might actually have it right. But apparently, these dudes really just don't know wth is going on over in shanghai , probably just lots of blow and tranny hookers |
Despawner Respawner
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.07.06 14:40:00 -
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Let me tl/dr this for everyone. OP capped out Wednesday because he's a try hard (and I suspect he thought thurs was a cap reset). it was "supposed" to only add the remainder to your cap, that is to say-remaining sp cap plus 2(normal week cap)
So instead of maximizing his potential sp- he essentially lost the ability to farm ~380k sps .... Keep in mind he still can potentially get FOUR weeks worth of sp (more then we were even promised for the event) Other ppl potentially got SIX weeks worth and that's the complaint.... |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
211
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Posted - 2013.07.06 14:46:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:
I'm sure I have been around longer than you
So then you have nothing to complain about.
Just because a dev says something doesn't make it happen. How many broken promises do you need to be reminded of to not trust the blue posts?
How many events have gone smoothly since the open beta started? How many badly managed events does it take before you are cautious about them?
If you are not new, then don't be so stupid and then get to crying. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
399
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Posted - 2013.07.06 14:56:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:
I'm sure I have been around longer than you
So then you have nothing to complain about. Just because a dev says something doesn't make it happen. How many broken promises do you need to be reminded of to not trust the blue posts? How many events have gone smoothly since the open beta started? How many badly managed events does it take before you are cautious about them? If you are not new, then don't be so stupid and then get to crying.
Stupid , no . naive maybe. crying , not really.
you might be right , but that does not make that a good excuse. as a matter of fact that is a very very bad excuse for them.
CCP" yeh hey guys, ignore everything we post , it's all going to be fkd up every time anyhow, just get on the game and play.. oh yeh buy some aur for our fkd up event please. Thanks have a great time"
This does not go on in eve on a regular basis, why the hell does it happen here |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
211
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Posted - 2013.07.06 15:01:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:
Stupid , no . naive maybe. crying , not really.
you might be right , but that does not make that a good excuse. as a matter of fact that is a very very bad excuse for them.
CCP" yeh hey guys, ignore everything we post , it's all going to be fkd up every time anyhow, just get on the game and play.. oh yeh buy some aur for our fkd up event please. Thanks have a great time"
This does not go on in eve on a regular basis, why the hell does it happen here
I agree that it is a horrible reflection on CCP. However, that does not change the facts on the ground.
CCP has shown again and again that events get messed up.
As players most of us should have the good sense to anticipate this.
If you, or anyone else is SP focused, there is twice the incentive to be cautious concerning events, especially something like 3x SP.
Not to you specifically, but anyone who is crying about missing out on SP should have taken one look at CCPs track record for events and had a strong hunch that this one would not get running without some sort of problem. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
400
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Posted - 2013.07.06 15:04:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:
Stupid , no . naive maybe. crying , not really.
you might be right , but that does not make that a good excuse. as a matter of fact that is a very very bad excuse for them.
CCP" yeh hey guys, ignore everything we post , it's all going to be fkd up every time anyhow, just get on the game and play.. oh yeh buy some aur for our fkd up event please. Thanks have a great time"
This does not go on in eve on a regular basis, why the hell does it happen here
I agree that it is a horrible reflection on CCP. However, that does not change the facts on the ground. CCP has shown again and again that events get messed up. As players most of us should have the good sense to anticipate this. If you, or anyone else is SP focused, there is twice the incentive to be cautious concerning events, especially something like 3x SP. Not to you specifically, but anyone who is crying about missing out on SP should have taken one look at CCPs track record for events and had a strong hunch that this one would not get running without some sort of problem.
I'll never forget the first Dust 514 Corporate tournament :\
" hey guys , we stealth patched for the next 24hrs an isk window, your isk no longer goes to black hole.. vehicle vehicle vehilce"
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Dengru
Red Star. EoN.
38
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Posted - 2013.07.06 15:04:00 -
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met with blithe htfu for expecting some accountability, what joke this community is |
Sotapopthegrey gay
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2013.07.06 15:07:00 -
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Someone always has to QQing.
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Vavilia Lysenko
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
118
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Posted - 2013.07.06 15:10:00 -
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5P3CTR3 R1S1NG wrote:I don't know if anyone has posted a topic about this or if a dev has acknowledged the fact that people who played and/or capped out on Wednesday lost out on a potential 570k or 856k SP. I was apart of the group that capped out on Wednesday because I wanted to get the maximum SP possible, and I know people are going to say "Why did you play on wednesday , you couldn't wait one day?" I capped out on Wednesday because CCP confirmed that if we did manage to cap out we would not be affected. Its not the point that the event did not go as planned, it the fact of how they resolved it. The people who didn't play Wednesday and capped out Thursday got 571,200(856,800 with active booster) and CCP's answer to the script not working properly was was to just reset everyones skill cap back to 571,200 which basically gave the people who did not play Wednesday that played Thursday and additional 570K(856k) SP which in total is around 1mil+ SP or 1.7mil.
This is one of those situation where the developers had good intentions but something went wrong. I just hope the developers compensate for what happened or at least give feedback to this because it would be unfair to basically give people who didn't take CCP's word an extra 570k SP and give the rest nothing.Hopefully CCP has a way of keeping track of everyones SP or at least have a way of remotely keeping track of it.
Feedback would be appreciated, especially from a dev on this matter.
You did not Lose anything. You cannot Lose what you didn't have. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
394
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Posted - 2013.07.06 15:15:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:
that was the overal opinion of basically all of us until 2 seperate blues, GM not support came in and said all was ok, no worries about playing wed
If you have been around, you expect CCP to muck up events, updates, and especially communication. If this is your first taste of that, then learn from it. I'm sure I have been around longer than you. That still is not a valid argument though , of course expect it.. but I mean dude, we all asked about if tons of times in thread after thread and then 2 actual developers say not to worry.. you think they might actually have it right. But apparently, these dudes really just don't know wth is going on over in shanghai , probably just lots of blow and tranny hookers
Better safe than sorry. here is another good one...
Don't blow your load right away. words to live by |
5P3CTR3 R1S1NG
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
6
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Posted - 2013.07.06 17:58:00 -
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Despawner Respawner wrote:Let me tl/dr this for everyone. OP capped out Wednesday because he's a try hard (and I suspect he thought thurs was a cap reset). it was "supposed" to only add the remainder to your cap, that is to say-remaining sp cap plus 2(normal week cap)
So instead of maximizing his potential sp- he essentially lost the ability to farm ~380k sps .... Keep in mind he still can potentially get FOUR weeks worth of sp (more then we were even promised for the event) Other ppl potentially got SIX weeks worth and that's the complaint.... I am not a tryhard , I just enjoy playing dust,but that does not mean it was my fault. I know the script for the event went wrong and im not complaining about the goof up, im complaining about how it was fixed. This my first time seeing this happen from CCP because i have only been playing Dust for about a month and I know people are going to be like "well this is CCP, learn from it." I never new CCP had a history for messing up events or fixing it the wrong way.
and get four weeks worth of SP,not possible if you capped out on Wednesday. |
5P3CTR3 R1S1NG
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
6
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:01:00 -
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Vavilia Lysenko wrote:
You did not Lose anything. You cannot Lose what you didn't have.
As I have said before, I lost out on the chance to earn 6x SP. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
399
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:04:00 -
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5P3CTR3 R1S1NG wrote:Vavilia Lysenko wrote:
You did not Lose anything. You cannot Lose what you didn't have.
As I have said before, I lost out on the chance to earn 6x SP.
potential = nothing |
5P3CTR3 R1S1NG
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
6
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:06:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote: potential = nothing
Did you manage to cap out on wednesday? |
imma monsta
OUT FOR BLOOD.
8
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:09:00 -
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Don't know if just late trolling or if seriously doesn't play Dust often.... They reset the triple SP.
I wonder if the DEV have acknowledged this guy for his OP trolling ability... |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
399
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:10:00 -
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5P3CTR3 R1S1NG wrote:Darken-Sol wrote: potential = nothing
Did you manage to cap out on wednesday? wednesday was an alt day. i'm not stupid |
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5P3CTR3 R1S1NG
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
6
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:20:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote: wednesday was an alt day. i'm not stupid
You are calling people stupid indirectly for playing on Wednesday? How inmature are you?
imma monsta wrote:Don't know if just late trolling or if seriously doesn't play Dust often.... They reset the triple SP. I wonder if the DEV have acknowledged this guy for his OP trolling ability... I know the triple cap was reset Friday, and I am happy that I got to get 570K SP, but when they reset the cap, it basically gave the people who didn't cap out or got a little SP out of the cap on Wednesday an extra 570K SP cap |
Delenne Arran
Ivory Hounds
29
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:35:00 -
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5P3CTR3 R1S1NG wrote: I am not a tryhard , I just enjoy playing dust,but that does not mean it was my fault. I know the script for the event went wrong and im not complaining about the goof up, im complaining about how it was fixed. This my first time seeing this happen from CCP because i have only been playing Dust for about a month and I know people are going to be like "well this is CCP, learn from it." I never new CCP had a history for messing up events or fixing it the wrong way.
and get four weeks worth of SP,not possible if you capped out on Wednesday.
194k Wednesday +582k Friday = 4 weeks worth 582k Thursday + 582k Friday = 6 weeks worth
2100 Angels wrote: is it really that difficult to set variables and input to a simple equation? if so it raises serious doubts in my mind about CCPs coding ability.
%NewCap - %AccruedLastCap
Assumes they're actually tracking what each player earns cap to cap. I suspect if they were, w'd have that SP Rollover by now. |
Altina McAlterson
Not Guilty EoN.
609
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:35:00 -
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If you capped out on Wednesday you got exactly what was intended. If you waited until Thursday you got extra because CCP made a mistake.
Did CCP do it on purpose because they really, really hate Wednesdays and everyone that plays on that day?
DId they do it because they hate tryhards?
DId they do it for any reason at all?
No? No reason? Purely accidental? An honest mistake? An impartial solution? Free from all bias, self-interest and favoritism? Really? Well I guess that seems "fair".
And as far as rolling it back my answer is "hell no". Not in New Eden. I don't think they've done a full on rollback in EVE since not long after the game came out a decade ago. They've taken money and assets from individuals if it was from an exploit or violation of the TOS when the amounts were large enough to make a serious impact but I can't remember anything more than that. I could be wrong, just going on what I remember. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
400
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:39:00 -
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just make sure you cap out this wednesday. If it works like last time you can get another 500k+.
I dont want to hear you cry about not being informed. |
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:45:00 -
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the people that got the best deal were the people that grinded all day thursday not wed I used like 30k SP of the regular cap on wed thur I grinded my remaining 3xSP t0 about 90k got on fri and had the 570 something SP reset
Thanks CCP! |
5P3CTR3 R1S1NG
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
6
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Posted - 2013.07.06 19:03:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:just make sure you cap out this wednesday. If it works like last time you can get another 500k+.
I dont want to hear you cry about not being informed. What is going to be special about this wednesday? |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
401
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Posted - 2013.07.06 19:05:00 -
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5P3CTR3 R1S1NG wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:just make sure you cap out this wednesday. If it works like last time you can get another 500k+.
I dont want to hear you cry about not being informed. What is going to be special about this wednesday?
your cap resets as usual but we still have 3x sp. its like an eclipse |
5P3CTR3 R1S1NG
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
6
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Posted - 2013.07.06 19:17:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote: your cap resets as usual but we still have 3x sp. its like an eclipse
Hopefully it works
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.07.06 19:18:00 -
[49] - Quote
hmm no blue tags guess that mean ccp= don't care
or they no worky on the weekends, w/e still cool. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
714
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Posted - 2013.07.06 19:19:00 -
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XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:the people that got the best deal were the people that grinded all day thursday not wed I used like 30k SP of the regular cap on wed thur I grinded my remaining 3xSP t0 about 90k got on fri and had the 570 something SP reset
Thanks CCP! i did the same thing, it was great!!! |
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InsidiousN
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.07.06 19:22:00 -
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Or CCP could have just avoided all potential problems by starting the 3X SP event on Wednesday, but that would've made WAY too much sense. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
401
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Posted - 2013.07.06 19:24:00 -
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InsidiousN wrote:Or CCP could have just avoided all potential problems by starting the 3X SP event on Wednesday, but that would've made WAY too much sense.
you didnt notice you werent getting 3x sp? |
InsidiousN
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
102
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Posted - 2013.07.06 20:43:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:InsidiousN wrote:Or CCP could have just avoided all potential problems by starting the 3X SP event on Wednesday, but that would've made WAY too much sense. you didnt notice you werent getting 3x sp?
I have no clue what you mean, of course I know I'm getting 3X SP starting Thursday, what I'm saying is that this whole problem with tripling SP after people capped normally on Wednesday could have been very easily avoided if the 3X SP event had just started on Wednesday. |
A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
262
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Posted - 2013.07.06 21:21:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:5P3CTR3 R1S1NG wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:just make sure you cap out this wednesday. If it works like last time you can get another 500k+.
I dont want to hear you cry about not being informed. What is going to be special about this wednesday? your cap resets as usual but we still have 3x sp. its like an eclipse
If the event ends on the 10th July (GMT) then it will end during downtime of the reset so no triple SP on Wednesday after downtime. I can not remember them saying they are extending the event to the 11th July only resetting the bonus SP on Friday.
It would be nice to get another day after the SP reset but I am not expecting it.
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5P3CTR3 R1S1NG
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
6
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Posted - 2013.07.06 21:23:00 -
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They made the event on start on Thursday because of July 4th. |
MlDDLE MANGEMENT
lMPurity
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Posted - 2013.07.06 21:24:00 -
[56] - Quote
Simple solution.
GET RID OF THE CAP!!! |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
714
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Posted - 2013.07.06 21:30:00 -
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5P3CTR3 R1S1NG wrote:They made the event on start on Thursday because of July 4th. your birthday is on thursday but you are going to die on Wednesday, do you still plan your birthday party for thursday or do you plan it before you die on wednesday? |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
403
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Posted - 2013.07.06 21:31:00 -
[58] - Quote
A'Real Fury wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:5P3CTR3 R1S1NG wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:just make sure you cap out this wednesday. If it works like last time you can get another 500k+.
I dont want to hear you cry about not being informed. What is going to be special about this wednesday? your cap resets as usual but we still have 3x sp. its like an eclipse If the event ends on the 10th July (GMT) then it will end during downtime of the reset so no triple SP on Wednesday after downtime. I can not remember them saying they are extending the event to the 11th July only resetting the bonus SP on Friday. It would be nice to get another day after the SP reset but I am not expecting it.
check your times. i think youll find i'm right. dont need it to extend to the eleventh. the tenth will be fine we reset in the AM and i have that whole day to grind out another 550k.
Believe what you want. |
CuuCH Crusher
Commando Perkone Caldari State
77
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Posted - 2013.07.06 21:33:00 -
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Stop hating. All in all you got way more then you were promised this week. Stop worrying about what everyone else got. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
559
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Posted - 2013.07.06 22:26:00 -
[60] - Quote
Just another CCP blunder. Although after analyzing all the possible fixes, they chose the one that gave everybody the most possible SP under the circumstances.
There is a couple of things they could have done (not including boost SP here).
1. On Friday give everybody a new 380k cap. - Those that capped on Wednesday could have a total SP of 570k (190k + 380k) - Those that capped on Thursday could have a total SP of 950k (570k + 380k)
2. On Friday reset cap to 570k - Those that capped on Wednesday could have a total SP of 760k SP (190k + 570k) - Those that capped on Thursday could have a total Sp of 1140k SP (570k + 570k)
3. Take away all the SP everybody earned during Wednesday and Thursday, and reset cap to 570k -In both instances, everybody's total SP would have been 570k. But many would be really ticked off since all their hard work was reset.
So given what they did, it was pretty decent. I'm sure there is some way they could have made it so everybody who played during Wednesday or Thursday (regardless if they capped or now) could end the week with a total SP of 1140k SP, but that seems like it would take some time to pull off and they couldn't have done it as quickly as what they did do.
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Despawner Respawner
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.07.07 02:40:00 -
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5P3CTR3 R1S1NG wrote:Despawner Respawner wrote:Let me tl/dr this for everyone. OP capped out Wednesday because he's a try hard (and I suspect he thought thurs was a cap reset). it was "supposed" to only add the remainder to your cap, that is to say-remaining sp cap plus 2(normal week cap)
So instead of maximizing his potential sp- he essentially lost the ability to farm ~380k sps .... Keep in mind he still can potentially get FOUR weeks worth of sp (more then we were even promised for the event) Other ppl potentially got SIX weeks worth and that's the complaint.... I am not a tryhard , I just enjoy playing dust,but that does not mean it was my fault. I know the script for the event went wrong and im not complaining about the goof up, im complaining about how it was fixed. This my first time seeing this happen from CCP because i have only been playing Dust for about a month and I know people are going to be like "well this is CCP, learn from it." I never new CCP had a history for messing up events or fixing it the wrong way. and get four weeks worth of SP,not possible if you capped out on Wednesday.
Four weeks worth of sp is easily possible if you capped out wed....
Cap out wed= 1 weeks worth of sp Sp cap at zero thurs. because you hit cap wed Fri cap reset at triple= 3 weeks worth of sp
Here's why you are a try hard... You capped out wed= 1 weeks sp Thurs you should have had 2weeks sp added to your remaining sp cap/ you thought it was a reset and that is why you capped out wed..... Thurs- should of had 2 weeks/ really got 0 weeks Fri-ccp fixed thurs mistake and reset cap to full- 3 weeks of sp cap available So doing the math you can potentially get 4 weeks of sp when you should have been only able to get 3 You capped out wed thinking you could get 4 weeks/ and you ended up with four weeks worth-wtf is the problem again...
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5P3CTR3 R1S1NG
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
6
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Posted - 2013.07.07 03:39:00 -
[62] - Quote
Despawner Respawner wrote:
Four weeks worth of sp is easily possible if you capped out wed....
Cap out wed= 1 weeks worth of sp Sp cap at zero thurs. because you hit cap wed Fri cap reset at triple= 3 weeks worth of sp
Here's why you are a try hard... You capped out wed= 1 weeks sp Thurs you should have had 2weeks sp added to your remaining sp cap/ you thought it was a reset and that is why you capped out wed..... Thurs- should of had 2 weeks/ really got 0 weeks Fri-ccp fixed thurs mistake and reset cap to full- 3 weeks of sp cap available So doing the math you can potentially get 4 weeks of sp when you should have been only able to get 3 You capped out wed thinking you could get 4 weeks/ and you ended up with four weeks worth-wtf is the problem again...
Did you even read this thread? Someone already explained this and the problem is , is that some people got an extra 570K SP. |
RA Drahcir
Psygod9 RISE of LEGION
8
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Posted - 2013.07.07 03:56:00 -
[63] - Quote
wah, he got a bigger cookie! |
Altina McAlterson
Not Guilty EoN.
609
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Posted - 2013.07.07 05:04:00 -
[64] - Quote
5P3CTR3 R1S1NG wrote: Did you even read this thread? Someone already explained this and the problem is , is that some people got an extra 570K SP.
Seriously something you gotta deal with. You got exactly what you were supposed to get. So no one's got any basis to be upset.
Everybody got at the very least what was promised and anyone who's crying because someone else got even more than that can feel free to shut the **** up, put on their big boy pants and move on.
Darken-Sol wrote:
check your times. i think youll find i'm right. dont need it to extend to the eleventh. the tenth will be fine we reset in the AM and i have that whole day to grind out another 550k.
Believe what you want.
If it ends the 10th that means downtime on the 10th, which is also when the cap is reset. So you have that whole day to grind out another 190,400 SP. |
Despawner Respawner
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.07.07 05:38:00 -
[65] - Quote
5P3CTR3 R1S1NG wrote:Despawner Respawner wrote:
Four weeks worth of sp is easily possible if you capped out wed....
Cap out wed= 1 weeks worth of sp Sp cap at zero thurs. because you hit cap wed Fri cap reset at triple= 3 weeks worth of sp
Here's why you are a try hard... You capped out wed= 1 weeks sp Thurs you should have had 2weeks sp added to your remaining sp cap/ you thought it was a reset and that is why you capped out wed..... Thurs- should of had 2 weeks/ really got 0 weeks Fri-ccp fixed thurs mistake and reset cap to full- 3 weeks of sp cap available So doing the math you can potentially get 4 weeks of sp when you should have been only able to get 3 You capped out wed thinking you could get 4 weeks/ and you ended up with four weeks worth-wtf is the problem again...
Did you even read this thread? Someone already explained this and the problem is , is that some people got an extra 570K SP. Did you read this thread? Cause your math is still off. At best someone got two weeks (~380k) more then others (keep in mind this is potential not actual)
Here I'll do the math again....
Wed cap reset- ~190k Thurs- remaining cap was tripled Assuming you got all 190k wed you go to zero If you used zero wed you go to ~570 570 minus 190= 380k (cause you couldn't get both the 570 thu and the 190 wed, wed excludes thu)
See how fun math is?
And on top of that you (potentially) got 4 weeks of sp (4 is more then the 3 we were promised) Although some ppl (potentially) got 6 weeks of sp this in no way harms you (and realistically there's no way to fix this to make their potential gain equal your potential gain)
Tl/dr learn2math and/or htfu |
5P3CTR3 R1S1NG
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
7
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Posted - 2013.07.07 06:27:00 -
[66] - Quote
Despawner Respawner wrote: Did you read this thread? Cause your math is still off. At best someone got two weeks (~380k) more then others (keep in mind this is potential not actual)
Here I'll do the math again....
Wed cap reset- ~190k Thurs- remaining cap was tripled Assuming you got all 190k wed you go to zero If you used zero wed you go to ~570 570 minus 190= 380k (cause you couldn't get both the 570 thu and the 190 wed, wed excludes thu)
See how fun math is?
And on top of that you (potentially) got 4 weeks of sp (4 is more then the 3 we were promised) Although some ppl (potentially) got 6 weeks of sp this in no way harms you (and realistically there's no way to fix this to make their potential gain equal your potential gain)
Tl/dr learn2math and/or htfu
It seems that you did not read the thread then. As I have told you before someone else already explained this and I already understand that there was 4 weeks of SP which is why I didn't argue with the other person and also, your insults are not needed here.
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DRE PrEaCh
Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack
10
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Posted - 2013.07.07 17:31:00 -
[67] - Quote
I didn't play on Wednesday and played 2 rounds on thursday, then I played all day friday and now I have 30K left before cappin' out. How much SP did i miss out on?
CCP.............. HOOK ME UP! Don't be cheap!
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