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5P3CTR3 R1S1NG
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.07.06 05:37:00 -
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I don't know if anyone has posted a topic about this or if a dev has acknowledged the fact that people who played and/or capped out on Wednesday lost out on a potential 570k or 856k SP. I was apart of the group that capped out on Wednesday because I wanted to get the maximum SP possible, and I know people are going to say "Why did you play on wednesday , you couldn't wait one day?" I capped out on Wednesday because CCP confirmed that if we did manage to cap out we would not be affected. Its not the point that the event did not go as planned, it the fact of how they resolved it. The people who didn't play Wednesday and capped out Thursday got 571,200(856,800 with active booster) and CCP's answer to the script not working properly was was to just reset everyones skill cap back to 571,200 which basically gave the people who did not play Wednesday that played Thursday and additional 570K(856k) SP which in total is around 1mil+ SP or 1.7mil.
This is one of those situation where the developers had good intentions but something went wrong. I just hope the developers compensate for what happened or at least give feedback to this because it would be unfair to basically give people who didn't take CCP's word an extra 570k SP and give the rest nothing.Hopefully CCP has a way of keeping track of everyones SP or at least have a way of remotely keeping track of it.
Feedback would be appreciated, especially from a dev on this matter. |
Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
115
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Posted - 2013.07.06 05:45:00 -
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5P3CTR3 R1S1NG wrote:I don't know if anyone has posted a topic about this or if a dev has acknowledged the fact that people who played and/or capped out on Wednesday lost out on a potential 570k or 856k SP. I was apart of the group that capped out on Wednesday because I wanted to get the maximum SP possible, and I know people are going to say "Why did you play on wednesday , you couldn't wait one day?" I capped out on Wednesday because CCP confirmed that if we did manage to cap out we would not be affected. Its not the point that the event did not go as planned, it the fact of how they resolved it. The people who didn't play Wednesday and capped out Thursday got 571,200(856,800 with active booster) and CCP's answer to the script not working properly was was to just reset everyones skill cap back to 571,200 which basically gave the people who did not play Wednesday that played Thursday and additional 570K(856k) SP which in total is around 1mil+ SP or 1.7mil.
This is one of those situation where the developers had good intentions but something went wrong. I just hope the developers compensate for what happened or at least give feedback to this because it would be unfair to basically give people who didn't take CCP's word an extra 570k SP and give the rest nothing.Hopefully CCP has a way of keeping track of everyones SP or at least have a way of remotely keeping track of it.
Feedback would be appreciated, especially from a dev on this matter. If you capped on hump day, then you're out 375ish SP. The game's free, and you're still earning a metric crap-ton of SP. Be happy that you're here for the event. I travel for work quite a bit, and I missed the last one. Less QQ, more Pew Pew! |
5P3CTR3 R1S1NG
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.07.06 05:51:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote: If you capped on hump day, then you're out 375ish SP. The game's free, and you're still earning a metric crap-ton of SP. Be happy that you're here for the event. I travel for work quite a bit, and I missed the last one. Less QQ, more Pew Pew!
Im not Crying over this want to at least get a reply from a dev on this and I am happy about this event but other people are happier because of the potential 1mil+ SP the could have gotten.
PS : Im sure alot of people have missed out on the last event including me. |
Swell Shot
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.06 05:59:00 -
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So did I but you don't see me crying about it; besides I am pretty sure the cap reset on Thursday again anyway |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
785
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:02:00 -
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You lost nothing its been fixed Yesterday I had 300k+ SP left til I hit the cap, today its 500k+ sp til the cap |
5P3CTR3 R1S1NG
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:05:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:You lost nothing its been fixed Yesterday I had 300k+ SP left til I hit the cap, today its 500k+ sp til the cap People that capped out Thursday or just played on Thursday were given an additional 570K SP and yes , I lost out on the chance to earn 6x SP. |
Delenne Arran
Ivory Hounds
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:12:00 -
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I think this is kind of a "no compensation or feedback required" kind of thing. Not even really sure what you'd want them to do about it? This is pretty much the best solution for everyone. It's a bit unbalanced, but only if you have the time and desire to play two days straight to cap out in a single day, then do it again over the next 5 days.
IF they're even tracking it, they can't just triple what you got on Wednesday, as that's before the event started. In addition, some people played both Wednesday AND Thursday, so they would still have earned more. They also couldn't just return what was earned Wednesday to the cap, in part for that same reason, in part because some people would still complain about "missing out." Can't just take away triple SP earned on Thursday, since some people will have only played that day. Can't just ignore the people who capped out on Wednesday, because they said they'd be able to do so without worry.
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5P3CTR3 R1S1NG
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
3
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:17:00 -
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I know nothing will probably be done ,but im holding my breath still. |
Killar-12
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:21:00 -
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Swell Shot wrote:So did I but you don't see me crying about it; besides I am pretty sure the cap reset on Thursday again anyway It did and I need to get back on to take advantage of this opportunity |
Dust Project 514
Dust Evo 514
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:21:00 -
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It's fixed. Got around around 100K weds, 350k yesturday, and over 550k today. BOSS! |
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2100 Angels
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
155
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Posted - 2013.07.06 07:44:00 -
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It's not fixed. I'm in the same boat to the OP, except I didn't play wednesday or thursday. Because I didn't play on either day I'm out a potential 571,200 SP that I could have recieved prior to the weekly cap being reset. This is an appauling solution to an easy problem, as it gives some players an advantage over others arbitrarily.
I'm not usually one to jump on board the complain train because I can live with imbalances in game content because everyone is on equal footing. This has given a number of players (probably the majority) the opportunity to earn up to 571,200 (no booster) SP more than people who did not play over these 2 days. This is not a fair solution and some sort of compensation should be organised.
Honestly though CCP, why on earth would you not have just taken one of the following routes? a) Restore weekly cap to 3*190,400 = 571,200 LESS amount already earned or; b) Increase weekly cap to 6*190,400 = 1,142,400 LESS amount already earned (if you were so intent on providing a "making-up-for-our-screw-up" bonus) as this is what some players have effectively achieved
/dissapointed. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
4709
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Posted - 2013.07.06 07:50:00 -
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I capped on Wednesday, but the fix worked for me. If you're still having problems still, I would recommend posting in the bugs/tech support section, or filing a petition. |
2100 Angels
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
155
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Posted - 2013.07.06 08:16:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I capped on Wednesday, but the fix worked for me. If you're still having problems still, I would recommend posting in the bugs/tech support section, or filing a petition.
They didn't fix anything, they reset the weekly cap for everyone, meaning that you missed out on ~375k that people who decided to cap on Thursday got |
The Black Art
Pro Hic Immortalis
154
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Posted - 2013.07.06 08:38:00 -
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There really is no better option. They would either have to take away SP already earned, or do what they did and just reset everyone. If they did the former, there would be a lot more tears. Especially from busy people who set aside Wed/Thur to hit the cap, only to be told it was for nothing and now they have to re-grind. |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2013.07.06 08:44:00 -
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5P3CTR3 R1S1NG wrote:I don't know if anyone has posted a topic about this or if a dev has acknowledged the fact that people who played and/or capped out on Wednesday lost out on a potential 570k or 856k SP. I was apart of the group that capped out on Wednesday because I wanted to get the maximum SP possible, and I know people are going to say "Why did you play on wednesday , you couldn't wait one day?" I capped out on Wednesday because CCP confirmed that if we did manage to cap out we would not be affected. Its not the point that the event did not go as planned, it the fact of how they resolved it. The people who didn't play Wednesday and capped out Thursday got 571,200(856,800 with active booster) and CCP's answer to the script not working properly was was to just reset everyones skill cap back to 571,200 which basically gave the people who did not play Wednesday that played Thursday and additional 570K(856k) SP which in total is around 1mil+ SP or 1.7mil.
This is one of those situation where the developers had good intentions but something went wrong. I just hope the developers compensate for what happened or at least give feedback to this because it would be unfair to basically give people who didn't take CCP's word an extra 570k SP and give the rest nothing.Hopefully CCP has a way of keeping track of everyones SP or at least have a way of remotely keeping track of it.
Feedback would be appreciated, especially from a dev on this matter.
Something ALWAYS goes wrong. Your fault for thinking CCP could get something right. |
2100 Angels
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
155
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Posted - 2013.07.06 08:46:00 -
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The Black Art wrote:There really is no better option. They would either have to take away SP already earned, or do what they did and just reset everyone. If they did the former, there would be a lot more tears. Especially from busy people who set aside Wed/Thur to hit the cap, only to be told it was for nothing and now they have to re-grind.
2100 Angels wrote:Honestly though CCP, why on earth would you not have just taken one of the following routes? a) Restore weekly cap to 3*190,400 = 571,200 LESS amount already earned or; b) Increase weekly cap to 6*190,400 = 1,142,400 LESS amount already earned (if you were so intent on providing a "making-up-for-our-screw-up" bonus) as this is what some players have effectively achieved
two very feasible options right there mate |
Delenne Arran
Ivory Hounds
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Posted - 2013.07.06 08:57:00 -
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2100 Angels wrote:Honestly though CCP, why on earth would you not have just taken one of the following routes? a) Restore weekly cap to 3*190,400 = 571,200 LESS amount already earned or; b) Increase weekly cap to 6*190,400 = 1,142,400 LESS amount already earned (if you were so intent on providing a "making-up-for-our-screw-up" bonus) as this is what some players have effectively achieved
two very feasible options right there mate
This assumes they can set an individual cap for every player easily, quickly, and without it messing anything else up. Not saying they can't, but it may not be as feasible as you think. |
THE GREY CARDINAL
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
142
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Posted - 2013.07.06 09:02:00 -
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I was 20K short of cap by Thursday's downtime. With my boosters, I made about about 260K-ish. I'll make about 855K-ish with the triple SP. That's 1.1 million. Would I have liked to get that 600K from capping Thursday? Hell yeah, I'm an SP junkie...but 1,100,000 is still damn nice. I would wager that a VAST minority of gamers really capitalised on this by capping all that SP...that goes for capping out Wednesday too. It's a week day, people have work and most of these aren't hardcore forum dwelling people who probably had no idea this event is even happening.
A boosted merc makes about 2.2 million a month by hitting cap, after a few have gone by I doubt you'll even miss that 600SP. :) |
2100 Angels
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
155
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Posted - 2013.07.06 09:33:00 -
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Delenne Arran wrote:2100 Angels wrote:Honestly though CCP, why on earth would you not have just taken one of the following routes? a) Restore weekly cap to 3*190,400 = 571,200 LESS amount already earned or; b) Increase weekly cap to 6*190,400 = 1,142,400 LESS amount already earned (if you were so intent on providing a "making-up-for-our-screw-up" bonus) as this is what some players have effectively achieved
two very feasible options right there mate This assumes they can set an individual cap for every player easily, quickly, and without it messing anything else up. Not saying they can't, but it may not be as feasible as you think.
is it really that difficult to set variables and input to a simple equation? if so it raises serious doubts in my mind about CCPs coding ability.
%NewCap - %AccruedLastCap |
Knightshade Belladonna
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
399
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Posted - 2013.07.06 13:01:00 -
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People say there is no other option as if a rollback has never happened in gaming or ccp history for that matter...
which ofc is far to late now, but when the original dmg was found it could have been fixed with a rb
some would still have the somewhat screwed feeling, but nobody would have a huge leap in sp that others had no chance for |
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
944
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Posted - 2013.07.06 13:09:00 -
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LOL. People get too fired about what other people might be able to get or get away with. Worry about what you are doing and stop trying to make the world fair. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
390
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Posted - 2013.07.06 13:34:00 -
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A few guessed something like this might happen and so played a crappy alt on wed, and capped on thursday. I bet some even capped friday. How come you didnt?
Everyone knows things go wonky with each step forward. One could argue that you people who capped on wednesday should stop begging for something then complaining when you get it. Or is it that you are jealous? Life is not fair and you cant have everything.
Unless of course you anticipated it all and acted accordingly. Wow that would be a nice bump were someone to have done that. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
399
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Posted - 2013.07.06 14:20:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:A few guessed something like this might happen and so played a crappy alt on wed, and capped on thursday. I bet some even capped friday. How come you didnt?
Everyone knows things go wonky with each step forward. One could argue that you people who capped on wednesday should stop begging for something then complaining when you get it. Or is it that you are jealous? Life is not fair and you cant have everything.
Unless of course you anticipated it all and acted accordingly. Wow that would be a nice bump were someone to have done that.
that was the overal opinion of basically all of us until 2 seperate blues, GM not support came in and said all was ok, no worries about playing wed |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
211
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Posted - 2013.07.06 14:29:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:
that was the overal opinion of basically all of us until 2 seperate blues, GM not support came in and said all was ok, no worries about playing wed
If you have been around, you expect CCP to muck up events, updates, and especially communication.
If this is your first taste of that, then learn from it.
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Knightshade Belladonna
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
399
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Posted - 2013.07.06 14:39:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:
that was the overal opinion of basically all of us until 2 seperate blues, GM not support came in and said all was ok, no worries about playing wed
If you have been around, you expect CCP to muck up events, updates, and especially communication. If this is your first taste of that, then learn from it.
I'm sure I have been around longer than you.
That still is not a valid argument though , of course expect it.. but I mean dude, we all asked about if tons of times in thread after thread and then 2 actual developers say not to worry.. you think they might actually have it right. But apparently, these dudes really just don't know wth is going on over in shanghai , probably just lots of blow and tranny hookers |
Despawner Respawner
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.07.06 14:40:00 -
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Let me tl/dr this for everyone. OP capped out Wednesday because he's a try hard (and I suspect he thought thurs was a cap reset). it was "supposed" to only add the remainder to your cap, that is to say-remaining sp cap plus 2(normal week cap)
So instead of maximizing his potential sp- he essentially lost the ability to farm ~380k sps .... Keep in mind he still can potentially get FOUR weeks worth of sp (more then we were even promised for the event) Other ppl potentially got SIX weeks worth and that's the complaint.... |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
211
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Posted - 2013.07.06 14:46:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:
I'm sure I have been around longer than you
So then you have nothing to complain about.
Just because a dev says something doesn't make it happen. How many broken promises do you need to be reminded of to not trust the blue posts?
How many events have gone smoothly since the open beta started? How many badly managed events does it take before you are cautious about them?
If you are not new, then don't be so stupid and then get to crying. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
399
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Posted - 2013.07.06 14:56:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:
I'm sure I have been around longer than you
So then you have nothing to complain about. Just because a dev says something doesn't make it happen. How many broken promises do you need to be reminded of to not trust the blue posts? How many events have gone smoothly since the open beta started? How many badly managed events does it take before you are cautious about them? If you are not new, then don't be so stupid and then get to crying.
Stupid , no . naive maybe. crying , not really.
you might be right , but that does not make that a good excuse. as a matter of fact that is a very very bad excuse for them.
CCP" yeh hey guys, ignore everything we post , it's all going to be fkd up every time anyhow, just get on the game and play.. oh yeh buy some aur for our fkd up event please. Thanks have a great time"
This does not go on in eve on a regular basis, why the hell does it happen here |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
211
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Posted - 2013.07.06 15:01:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:
Stupid , no . naive maybe. crying , not really.
you might be right , but that does not make that a good excuse. as a matter of fact that is a very very bad excuse for them.
CCP" yeh hey guys, ignore everything we post , it's all going to be fkd up every time anyhow, just get on the game and play.. oh yeh buy some aur for our fkd up event please. Thanks have a great time"
This does not go on in eve on a regular basis, why the hell does it happen here
I agree that it is a horrible reflection on CCP. However, that does not change the facts on the ground.
CCP has shown again and again that events get messed up.
As players most of us should have the good sense to anticipate this.
If you, or anyone else is SP focused, there is twice the incentive to be cautious concerning events, especially something like 3x SP.
Not to you specifically, but anyone who is crying about missing out on SP should have taken one look at CCPs track record for events and had a strong hunch that this one would not get running without some sort of problem. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
400
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Posted - 2013.07.06 15:04:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:
Stupid , no . naive maybe. crying , not really.
you might be right , but that does not make that a good excuse. as a matter of fact that is a very very bad excuse for them.
CCP" yeh hey guys, ignore everything we post , it's all going to be fkd up every time anyhow, just get on the game and play.. oh yeh buy some aur for our fkd up event please. Thanks have a great time"
This does not go on in eve on a regular basis, why the hell does it happen here
I agree that it is a horrible reflection on CCP. However, that does not change the facts on the ground. CCP has shown again and again that events get messed up. As players most of us should have the good sense to anticipate this. If you, or anyone else is SP focused, there is twice the incentive to be cautious concerning events, especially something like 3x SP. Not to you specifically, but anyone who is crying about missing out on SP should have taken one look at CCPs track record for events and had a strong hunch that this one would not get running without some sort of problem.
I'll never forget the first Dust 514 Corporate tournament :\
" hey guys , we stealth patched for the next 24hrs an isk window, your isk no longer goes to black hole.. vehicle vehicle vehilce"
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