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Dengru
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.06 15:04:00 -
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met with blithe htfu for expecting some accountability, what joke this community is |
Sotapopthegrey gay
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2013.07.06 15:07:00 -
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Someone always has to QQing.
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Vavilia Lysenko
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.06 15:10:00 -
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5P3CTR3 R1S1NG wrote:I don't know if anyone has posted a topic about this or if a dev has acknowledged the fact that people who played and/or capped out on Wednesday lost out on a potential 570k or 856k SP. I was apart of the group that capped out on Wednesday because I wanted to get the maximum SP possible, and I know people are going to say "Why did you play on wednesday , you couldn't wait one day?" I capped out on Wednesday because CCP confirmed that if we did manage to cap out we would not be affected. Its not the point that the event did not go as planned, it the fact of how they resolved it. The people who didn't play Wednesday and capped out Thursday got 571,200(856,800 with active booster) and CCP's answer to the script not working properly was was to just reset everyones skill cap back to 571,200 which basically gave the people who did not play Wednesday that played Thursday and additional 570K(856k) SP which in total is around 1mil+ SP or 1.7mil.
This is one of those situation where the developers had good intentions but something went wrong. I just hope the developers compensate for what happened or at least give feedback to this because it would be unfair to basically give people who didn't take CCP's word an extra 570k SP and give the rest nothing.Hopefully CCP has a way of keeping track of everyones SP or at least have a way of remotely keeping track of it.
Feedback would be appreciated, especially from a dev on this matter.
You did not Lose anything. You cannot Lose what you didn't have. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
394
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Posted - 2013.07.06 15:15:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:
that was the overal opinion of basically all of us until 2 seperate blues, GM not support came in and said all was ok, no worries about playing wed
If you have been around, you expect CCP to muck up events, updates, and especially communication. If this is your first taste of that, then learn from it. I'm sure I have been around longer than you. That still is not a valid argument though , of course expect it.. but I mean dude, we all asked about if tons of times in thread after thread and then 2 actual developers say not to worry.. you think they might actually have it right. But apparently, these dudes really just don't know wth is going on over in shanghai , probably just lots of blow and tranny hookers
Better safe than sorry. here is another good one...
Don't blow your load right away. words to live by |
5P3CTR3 R1S1NG
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.07.06 17:58:00 -
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Despawner Respawner wrote:Let me tl/dr this for everyone. OP capped out Wednesday because he's a try hard (and I suspect he thought thurs was a cap reset). it was "supposed" to only add the remainder to your cap, that is to say-remaining sp cap plus 2(normal week cap)
So instead of maximizing his potential sp- he essentially lost the ability to farm ~380k sps .... Keep in mind he still can potentially get FOUR weeks worth of sp (more then we were even promised for the event) Other ppl potentially got SIX weeks worth and that's the complaint.... I am not a tryhard , I just enjoy playing dust,but that does not mean it was my fault. I know the script for the event went wrong and im not complaining about the goof up, im complaining about how it was fixed. This my first time seeing this happen from CCP because i have only been playing Dust for about a month and I know people are going to be like "well this is CCP, learn from it." I never new CCP had a history for messing up events or fixing it the wrong way.
and get four weeks worth of SP,not possible if you capped out on Wednesday. |
5P3CTR3 R1S1NG
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
6
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:01:00 -
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Vavilia Lysenko wrote:
You did not Lose anything. You cannot Lose what you didn't have.
As I have said before, I lost out on the chance to earn 6x SP. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
399
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:04:00 -
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5P3CTR3 R1S1NG wrote:Vavilia Lysenko wrote:
You did not Lose anything. You cannot Lose what you didn't have.
As I have said before, I lost out on the chance to earn 6x SP.
potential = nothing |
5P3CTR3 R1S1NG
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:06:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote: potential = nothing
Did you manage to cap out on wednesday? |
imma monsta
OUT FOR BLOOD.
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:09:00 -
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Don't know if just late trolling or if seriously doesn't play Dust often.... They reset the triple SP.
I wonder if the DEV have acknowledged this guy for his OP trolling ability... |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
399
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:10:00 -
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5P3CTR3 R1S1NG wrote:Darken-Sol wrote: potential = nothing
Did you manage to cap out on wednesday? wednesday was an alt day. i'm not stupid |
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5P3CTR3 R1S1NG
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
6
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:20:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote: wednesday was an alt day. i'm not stupid
You are calling people stupid indirectly for playing on Wednesday? How inmature are you?
imma monsta wrote:Don't know if just late trolling or if seriously doesn't play Dust often.... They reset the triple SP. I wonder if the DEV have acknowledged this guy for his OP trolling ability... I know the triple cap was reset Friday, and I am happy that I got to get 570K SP, but when they reset the cap, it basically gave the people who didn't cap out or got a little SP out of the cap on Wednesday an extra 570K SP cap |
Delenne Arran
Ivory Hounds
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:35:00 -
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5P3CTR3 R1S1NG wrote: I am not a tryhard , I just enjoy playing dust,but that does not mean it was my fault. I know the script for the event went wrong and im not complaining about the goof up, im complaining about how it was fixed. This my first time seeing this happen from CCP because i have only been playing Dust for about a month and I know people are going to be like "well this is CCP, learn from it." I never new CCP had a history for messing up events or fixing it the wrong way.
and get four weeks worth of SP,not possible if you capped out on Wednesday.
194k Wednesday +582k Friday = 4 weeks worth 582k Thursday + 582k Friday = 6 weeks worth
2100 Angels wrote: is it really that difficult to set variables and input to a simple equation? if so it raises serious doubts in my mind about CCPs coding ability.
%NewCap - %AccruedLastCap
Assumes they're actually tracking what each player earns cap to cap. I suspect if they were, w'd have that SP Rollover by now. |
Altina McAlterson
Not Guilty EoN.
609
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:35:00 -
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If you capped out on Wednesday you got exactly what was intended. If you waited until Thursday you got extra because CCP made a mistake.
Did CCP do it on purpose because they really, really hate Wednesdays and everyone that plays on that day?
DId they do it because they hate tryhards?
DId they do it for any reason at all?
No? No reason? Purely accidental? An honest mistake? An impartial solution? Free from all bias, self-interest and favoritism? Really? Well I guess that seems "fair".
And as far as rolling it back my answer is "hell no". Not in New Eden. I don't think they've done a full on rollback in EVE since not long after the game came out a decade ago. They've taken money and assets from individuals if it was from an exploit or violation of the TOS when the amounts were large enough to make a serious impact but I can't remember anything more than that. I could be wrong, just going on what I remember. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
400
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:39:00 -
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just make sure you cap out this wednesday. If it works like last time you can get another 500k+.
I dont want to hear you cry about not being informed. |
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:45:00 -
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the people that got the best deal were the people that grinded all day thursday not wed I used like 30k SP of the regular cap on wed thur I grinded my remaining 3xSP t0 about 90k got on fri and had the 570 something SP reset
Thanks CCP! |
5P3CTR3 R1S1NG
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
6
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Posted - 2013.07.06 19:03:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:just make sure you cap out this wednesday. If it works like last time you can get another 500k+.
I dont want to hear you cry about not being informed. What is going to be special about this wednesday? |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.07.06 19:05:00 -
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5P3CTR3 R1S1NG wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:just make sure you cap out this wednesday. If it works like last time you can get another 500k+.
I dont want to hear you cry about not being informed. What is going to be special about this wednesday?
your cap resets as usual but we still have 3x sp. its like an eclipse |
5P3CTR3 R1S1NG
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
6
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Posted - 2013.07.06 19:17:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote: your cap resets as usual but we still have 3x sp. its like an eclipse
Hopefully it works
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
714
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Posted - 2013.07.06 19:18:00 -
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hmm no blue tags guess that mean ccp= don't care
or they no worky on the weekends, w/e still cool. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
714
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Posted - 2013.07.06 19:19:00 -
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XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:the people that got the best deal were the people that grinded all day thursday not wed I used like 30k SP of the regular cap on wed thur I grinded my remaining 3xSP t0 about 90k got on fri and had the 570 something SP reset
Thanks CCP! i did the same thing, it was great!!! |
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InsidiousN
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
102
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Posted - 2013.07.06 19:22:00 -
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Or CCP could have just avoided all potential problems by starting the 3X SP event on Wednesday, but that would've made WAY too much sense. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
401
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Posted - 2013.07.06 19:24:00 -
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InsidiousN wrote:Or CCP could have just avoided all potential problems by starting the 3X SP event on Wednesday, but that would've made WAY too much sense.
you didnt notice you werent getting 3x sp? |
InsidiousN
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
102
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Posted - 2013.07.06 20:43:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:InsidiousN wrote:Or CCP could have just avoided all potential problems by starting the 3X SP event on Wednesday, but that would've made WAY too much sense. you didnt notice you werent getting 3x sp?
I have no clue what you mean, of course I know I'm getting 3X SP starting Thursday, what I'm saying is that this whole problem with tripling SP after people capped normally on Wednesday could have been very easily avoided if the 3X SP event had just started on Wednesday. |
A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
262
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Posted - 2013.07.06 21:21:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:5P3CTR3 R1S1NG wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:just make sure you cap out this wednesday. If it works like last time you can get another 500k+.
I dont want to hear you cry about not being informed. What is going to be special about this wednesday? your cap resets as usual but we still have 3x sp. its like an eclipse
If the event ends on the 10th July (GMT) then it will end during downtime of the reset so no triple SP on Wednesday after downtime. I can not remember them saying they are extending the event to the 11th July only resetting the bonus SP on Friday.
It would be nice to get another day after the SP reset but I am not expecting it.
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5P3CTR3 R1S1NG
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
6
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Posted - 2013.07.06 21:23:00 -
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They made the event on start on Thursday because of July 4th. |
MlDDLE MANGEMENT
lMPurity
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Posted - 2013.07.06 21:24:00 -
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Simple solution.
GET RID OF THE CAP!!! |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
714
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Posted - 2013.07.06 21:30:00 -
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5P3CTR3 R1S1NG wrote:They made the event on start on Thursday because of July 4th. your birthday is on thursday but you are going to die on Wednesday, do you still plan your birthday party for thursday or do you plan it before you die on wednesday? |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.07.06 21:31:00 -
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A'Real Fury wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:5P3CTR3 R1S1NG wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:just make sure you cap out this wednesday. If it works like last time you can get another 500k+.
I dont want to hear you cry about not being informed. What is going to be special about this wednesday? your cap resets as usual but we still have 3x sp. its like an eclipse If the event ends on the 10th July (GMT) then it will end during downtime of the reset so no triple SP on Wednesday after downtime. I can not remember them saying they are extending the event to the 11th July only resetting the bonus SP on Friday. It would be nice to get another day after the SP reset but I am not expecting it.
check your times. i think youll find i'm right. dont need it to extend to the eleventh. the tenth will be fine we reset in the AM and i have that whole day to grind out another 550k.
Believe what you want. |
CuuCH Crusher
Commando Perkone Caldari State
77
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Posted - 2013.07.06 21:33:00 -
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Stop hating. All in all you got way more then you were promised this week. Stop worrying about what everyone else got. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
559
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Posted - 2013.07.06 22:26:00 -
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Just another CCP blunder. Although after analyzing all the possible fixes, they chose the one that gave everybody the most possible SP under the circumstances.
There is a couple of things they could have done (not including boost SP here).
1. On Friday give everybody a new 380k cap. - Those that capped on Wednesday could have a total SP of 570k (190k + 380k) - Those that capped on Thursday could have a total SP of 950k (570k + 380k)
2. On Friday reset cap to 570k - Those that capped on Wednesday could have a total SP of 760k SP (190k + 570k) - Those that capped on Thursday could have a total Sp of 1140k SP (570k + 570k)
3. Take away all the SP everybody earned during Wednesday and Thursday, and reset cap to 570k -In both instances, everybody's total SP would have been 570k. But many would be really ticked off since all their hard work was reset.
So given what they did, it was pretty decent. I'm sure there is some way they could have made it so everybody who played during Wednesday or Thursday (regardless if they capped or now) could end the week with a total SP of 1140k SP, but that seems like it would take some time to pull off and they couldn't have done it as quickly as what they did do.
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